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Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:18:53 PM EST
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I approve this message, in 9mm and 5.56.....
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:18:54 PM EST
[#2]
Now it needs to happen.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:18:56 PM EST
[#3]
Does an eclipse count as day or night?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:18:56 PM EST
[#4]
time to find a high spot and some varmint rounds.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:19:20 PM EST
[#5]
I support this!
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:20:00 PM EST
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My wife says fuck yeah and we need more of this in this country today!



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God bless
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:20:21 PM EST
[#7]
Kill someone for painting graffiti on a statue?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:20:25 PM EST
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My wife says fuck yeah and we need more of this in this country today!



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God bless TTTTTTTttttttTTTTTTTTexas.  
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:20:52 PM EST
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That is the best question I have seen in a long time
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:21:43 PM EST
[#10]
Do I have to have residence in TX or can I just be there visiting?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:22:04 PM EST
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I'm going to with nope. *unless you are shooting a thief who is stealing an already torn down statue out of your own vehicle*

Still, it's not a TERRIBLE image to plant in rioting vandals minds. Fuck with Texas, get shot. That's pretty straight to the point.

I have ZERO plans of being anywhere near a mob of communists or fascists so I will not have to worry about leaning on a facebook post to stay out of prison.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:22:12 PM EST
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i hear clock towers work really well.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:23:50 PM EST
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That is the best question I have seen in a long time
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Does an eclipse count as day or night?
That is the best question I have seen in a long time
 An Eclipse is legally neither, all laws are rendered moot for the duration. You didn't read the threads about the 4 minute purge that just went down in Texas?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:25:07 PM EST
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I volunteer to NOT be the test case for this.
Fuckin retarded.
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Absolutely
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:26:13 PM EST
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The problem I see is that it is neither your property nor property that the owner wants you to defend.  If it was at night, then criminal mischief at night comes into play.  UT owned the statues it moved, so that was a gimme.

Nw the cop was right to one point.  Good luck getting a jury to convict the shooter in Texas.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:27:03 PM EST
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A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:
(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of arson, burglary,
robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal
mischief during the nighttime (Night time is 30 minutes after sunset
until 30 minutes before sunrise).

Is a statue "land or tangible, moveable property" seems like it's immovable property, also seems to only apply after dark if you are calling it criminal mischief
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That's your own property.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:28:53 PM EST
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 An Eclipse is legally neither, all laws are rendered moot for the duration. You didn't read the threads about the 4 minute purge that just went down in Texas?
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Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:29:39 PM EST
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Not one I'd want to be the test case for, but it's an interesting idea.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:29:46 PM EST
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Didn't read the statute but I'm not shooting someone over a statue
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It's not about the statue, it's about what it represents.  Some folks believe ideas (and heritage) are worth fighting for.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:29:50 PM EST
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I don't think the ol' boy's interpretation is cogent...unless it's after dark...then the 'Mischief in the Night' thingy kicks in. 
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:30:46 PM EST
[#21]
Phuc yeah!!

Let's get some tree stands deployed around these statues and monuments PRONTO
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:31:43 PM EST
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Didn't read the statute but I'm not shooting someone over a statue
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Got us a liberal here boys.

Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:31:52 PM EST
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The problem I see is that it is neither your property nor property that the owner wants you to defend.  If it was at night, then criminal mischief at night comes into play.  UT owned the statues it moved, so that was a gimme.

Nw the cop was right to one point.  Good luck getting a jury to convict the shooter in Texas.
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It would make the football player with white bronco trial look like child's play.
You would be convicted, there would be a media blitz and protests everywhere.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:32:20 PM EST
[#24]
God bless Texas.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:33:52 PM EST
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Seriously, is this up to and includes deadly force? Generally, you can only use enough force to stop the crime, and no more. Also, is this an affirmative defense? Do you need to prove the force was needed, or does the state need to prove deadly force wasn't needed?
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In Texas the force continuum for non-LEO's starts at kill them and goes to really kill them.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:33:57 PM EST
[#26]
Do you need to buy tags and is this considered hunting over bait???
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:34:49 PM EST
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That's your own property.
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A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:
(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of arson, burglary,
robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal
mischief during the nighttime (Night time is 30 minutes after sunset
until 30 minutes before sunrise).

Is a statue "land or tangible, moveable property" seems like it's immovable property, also seems to only apply after dark if you are calling it criminal mischief
That's your own property.
Statue is the property of the tax payers of Texas. If I'm on the jury I'll allow it.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:35:43 PM EST
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Your move, shitstains.
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FPNI
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:38:26 PM EST
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Is a statue "land or tangible, moveable property" seems like it's immovable property, also seems to only apply after dark if you are calling it criminal mischief
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Seems that the libtards can move them readily enough (in the dark of night)
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:39:23 PM EST
[#30]
So if someone shoots a vandal will the police not investigate the shooting since no crime was committed?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:41:01 PM EST
[#31]
I'll stand a post

Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:41:17 PM EST
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So if someone shoots a vandal will the police not investigate the shooting since no crime was committed?
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Show up to tag n bag?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:41:43 PM EST
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By my read, it wouldn't be legal as a statue doesn't strike me as land or tangible movable property. And even if it was, deadly force would only be permitted at night. I'm not a lawyer, though. 

Y'all feel free to be a test case on this one. Imma sit this one out. 
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Would flinging rubber bullets count then? Not lethal force..
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:42:39 PM EST
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I knew I had seen that somewhere.
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Yep, you called it.  I got to admit, i doubted you.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:42:46 PM EST
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Do you need to buy tags and is this considered hunting over bait???
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No bag limit either
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:44:16 PM EST
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Can I get a gofundme set up in advance???

I'll GoPro And ms paint.

$200,000.00 ought to be enough... right???
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lol you're going to need 20 times that amount at a minimum for even a chance of fighting it.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:45:51 PM EST
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It's not about the statue, it's about what it represents.  Some folks believe ideas (and heritage) are worth fighting for.
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Didn't read the statute but I'm not shooting someone over a statue
It's not about the statue, it's about what it represents.  Some folks believe ideas (and heritage) are worth fighting for.
Hey knock yourself out with it especially after reading over it. Have at it
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:46:04 PM EST
[#38]
Yeah, you can protect your property "at night" with deadly force.  Someone breaking into your car to steal change?  Yep.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:46:18 PM EST
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Got us a liberal here boys.

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Didn't read the statute but I'm not shooting someone over a statue
Got us a liberal here boys.

Not by a long shot.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:51:08 PM EST
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Deadly force could only be used at night. During the day I believe you could use force (i.e. punching, taser, pepper spray). 

Obviously, this would only apply to Antifa types, you couldn't use force or deadly force on government workers acting on orders from the government to remove statues.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:53:25 PM EST
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Not by a long shot.
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Didn't read the statute but I'm not shooting someone over a statue
Got us a liberal here boys.

Not by a long shot.
Just hackin on ya
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:55:56 PM EST
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Yeah Billy. What'd ya kill him for?

"He was hackin' on me."
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:56:43 PM EST
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I think I will not try this out...  if my life is in danger I will take the necessary action but the lawyer fees alone would ruin me financially.
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If it was found that your life was in danger, your lawyer fees would be minimal......
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:57:44 PM EST
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Will Governor Abbot issue a pardon?

@GregAbbot
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:58:59 PM EST
[#45]
Hope they try it at night.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 4:02:40 PM EST
[#46]
This is Texas's version of common-sense gun laws.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 4:02:49 PM EST
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Is this going to turn into another guard post like the recruiting stations were for a while?

I can just see the ND's coming.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 4:03:38 PM EST
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I wouldn't shoot someone vandalizing a statue. I would be OK with the cops doing it.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 4:07:45 PM EST
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Statue is the property of the tax payers of Texas. If I'm on the jury I'll allow it.
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As I will also
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 4:10:19 PM EST
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Texas - their state their rules.
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