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Posted: 4/18/2019 8:38:08 PM EDT
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"Somali-American Police Officers Association"  
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Posted: 4/18/2019 8:41:02 PM EDT
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So if you are on the block where the call report was from, and don’t have your cameras on, then when would you turn them on? After you first encounter either a witness or suspect? After you have bailed out of the car? After you have already arrested someone? Any policy that didn’t start recording before an officer would be likely to encounter anything specifically related to a call would be an idiotic policy. After you are already on the block, that would be idiotic. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 8:42:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For what it's worth, they already had their guns drawn. ]
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Posted: 4/18/2019 8:43:21 PM EDT
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accidentally?
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Posted: 4/18/2019 8:50:41 PM EDT
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Deep FRY that motherfucker, extra crispy. NO fucking reason for that action that can be "explained away", with out some SERIOUS shennajgans being pulled. IF he is that "scared" by somebody approaching where he happens to be, then WHO THE FUCK thought that it would be okay for him to a gun? |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 9:04:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2019 9:06:16 PM EDT
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https://i.imgur.com/DaJ6LXb.png Which is why China and Japan beat the US?!?! |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 9:15:59 PM EDT
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Way back when this happened, the reports was a person, in the dark and unrecognizable, was running toward them in their squad car. If it was not expected the complainant would be there to greet them, then I could imagine they suspected an ambush or bad guy intent on harming them. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 9:30:26 PM EDT
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I think the driver was in the middle of a conversation with her, the window on driver side down. I don't think it was a startle response. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Way back when this happened, the reports was a person, in the dark and unrecognizable, was running toward them in their squad car. If it was not expected the complainant would be there to greet them, then I could imagine they suspected an ambush or bad guy intent on harming them. Everyday on arfcom GD we hear keyborne rangers tell us how they are going to shoot them some bad guy if he even looks sideways at them. But GD also wants to string up every police officer for everything, especially when they have no clue of what actually happened. Monday morning quarterbacking is an arfcom GD sport that is highly competitive. Also, if not bodycam shouldn’t there be a dashcam recording? |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 9:54:21 PM EDT
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They were rolling up on a call reporting a possible assault in progress. I guess it would have been ridiculous to suspect that the complainant or victim would come running up to the patrol car. Actually I don't guess any such thing. What you say justifies DF like a female stranger smiling at you justifies grabbing her tits. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Way back when this happened, the reports was a person, in the dark and unrecognizable, was running toward them in their squad car. If it was not expected the complainant would be there to greet them, then I could imagine they suspected an ambush or bad guy intent on harming them. Shoot first,ask questions later,all about making it home no matter what.No reason for them to take risks or chances-not what they are paid for. Some people shouldn't be cops-just like the cops that lit up the homeowner thru a closed door. 
I'll be shocked if he goes to prison...... |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 10:04:01 PM EDT
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Those tests are culturally biased and written by white males. Which is why China and Japan beat the US?!?! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://i.imgur.com/DaJ6LXb.png Which is why China and Japan beat the US?!?! |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 10:20:38 PM EDT
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https://i.imgur.com/DaJ6LXb.png Which is why China and Japan beat the US?!?! |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 10:51:30 PM EDT
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That was weird to me also. Is the regular Association not diverse enough? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Somali-American Police Officers Association"
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Posted: 4/18/2019 10:56:38 PM EDT
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http://www.startribune.com/ma-am-stay-with-me-teenage-witness-takes-the-stand-as-jurors-see-cellphone-video-of-damond-shooting-s-aftermath/508703622/
Dunlap’s investigation showed that Noor and Harrity responded to 12 separate calls for service that night — including two related to the shooting — during their shift, ranging from a call involving an “emotionally-disturbed person” at a nearby senior living facility.
Noor, Dunlap testified, activated his body worn camera on half of those calls, while Harrity never turned his recording device on, until after Damond was shot. Harrity said he views every police call as a threat “until it’s no longer a threat anymore.” |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 11:18:37 PM EDT
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http://www.startribune.com/ma-am-stay-with-me-teenage-witness-takes-the-stand-as-jurors-see-cellphone-video-of-damond-shooting-s-aftermath/508703622/ http://www.startribune.com/what-we-learned-thursday-in-court-at-mohamed-noor-s-murder-trial/508782352/ Every call is a threat, but he never turned his camera on for the previous 12 calls that shift? Quote HistoryQuoted:
http://www.startribune.com/ma-am-stay-with-me-teenage-witness-takes-the-stand-as-jurors-see-cellphone-video-of-damond-shooting-s-aftermath/508703622/ Dunlap’s investigation showed that Noor and Harrity responded to 12 separate calls for service that night — including two related to the shooting — during their shift, ranging from a call involving an “emotionally-disturbed person” at a nearby senior living facility.
Noor, Dunlap testified, activated his body worn camera on half of those calls, while Harrity never turned his recording device on, until after Damond was shot. Harrity said he views every police call as a threat “until it’s no longer a threat anymore.” |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 11:22:18 PM EDT
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Most likely outcome is Noor will see no penalty beyond the loss of his job, and a fresh recruit selected only on the basis of demographics will be hired in his place. This new recruit will be equally skilled in the law, policy, marksmanship, and courage.
There's a TINY possibility that this case will cause policies to be passed requiring constantly running cameras, or, as I hope, legislation that dictates state wide camera policy as well as periodic review and fines for officers found to be failing to turn cameras on when they should. EVENTUALLY, this kind of behavior is going to continue until the citizenry is sick of police being able to shoot at the smallest provocation and use the magic words 'but I was scared!' and changes are going to be made. Some potential changes that I personally hope for is #1 strip an officer involved in such an incident of credentials permanently. #2 instead of viewing those cases in the split second of the shooting, back it up 5 minutes and say 'Did the officer take appropriate steps leading up to the shooting? Did his actions de escalate or escalate the situation? Did he approach the situation in a way that allowed him to be as informed as possible?' So if officers really thought they were likely to be driving into an ambush and stated this was why they shot so quickly, the question then becomes, if an officer really thought he was driving into an ambush, wouldn't he #1 turn his body camera on #2 sweep the area with his lights extensively as he approached #3 called for backup #4 chosen the spot to stop the squad in the best tactical location #5 both partners would be looking out eyes peeled for threat vs chatting casually. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 11:24:16 PM EDT
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Well it couldn't have been negligent, as he was a highly trained professional. It couldn't have been deliberate, because Mayor Betsy said he was wonderful So it must have been an accident. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Didn't see anything on the trial. This lady: Was accidentally shot by this officer: So it must have been an accident. She brought her protective detail, all MPLS police, into that shit. She was literally protesting against her protective detail. Total stupid fucking cunt. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 11:26:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In my line of work, we call that officer's behavior "Emblematic of a culture of non-compliance". |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 11:26:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2019 11:27:33 PM EDT
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He doesn't look like the Somalies we have here. They're the more Arab looking short guys. The other ones look like the assholes from the Tom Hanks movie where he says he is the captain now. Those are the bushmen. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 11:31:43 PM EDT
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One of the single most heinous acts by a police officer I've heard of. Fucker needs to hang by his Somali neck. I turned him in, this was witnessed by no less than 5 officers , not one lied , he was terminated 5 days later. He threatened me in bar one knight a couple years later , he refused to go out back of the bar and repeat it. I hate cowards and bullies That MFer who pulled on that 10 year old was always l;ate to bar fight calls or any calls where he might get hit. I watched him stand there while his partner struggled to get a suspect under control, another officer was closer and pushed him out of the way and helped cuff the guy. If you ask why I didn't intervene , i was covering the guys buddy who was still in the car and acting fidgety Thats the kind of situation a coward puts you in, leave the spot where you are covering someone , go to aid the other officer and 2 or 3 get shot by the guy I was supposed to cover, you don't leave the second suspect uncovered , turns out there was a 38 under his seat , so who knows, but it made the hair on the back of my neck stand up, training , follow it or die. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 11:33:16 PM EDT
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Accidentally on purpose? |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 11:41:47 PM EDT
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Let's put an auxilary sensor in the holster that ensures the cam is on if your weapon is drawn. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 11:46:54 PM EDT
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If you’re in a car and you believed you are going to get ambushed then just step on the accelerator and escape the killzone. I’m tired of lethal force being just another tool in the tool bag and not considered as serious as it is. I know it’s not an apples to apples comparison but can you imagine justifying as a concealed weapons holder shooting someone from your car window because you got spooked. Unreal.
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Posted: 4/19/2019 12:04:32 AM EDT
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Not having a cam turned on because you're not expecting anything is like not having a round chambered. Let's put an auxilary sensor in the holster that ensures the cam is on if your weapon is drawn. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Not having a cam turned on because you're not expecting anything is like not having a round chambered. Let's put an auxilary sensor in the holster that ensures the cam is on if your weapon is drawn. Quoted:
So if you are on the block where the call report was from, and don’t have your cameras on, then when would you turn them on? After you first encounter either a witness or suspect? After you have bailed out of the car? After you have already arrested someone? Any policy that didn’t start recording before an officer would be likely to encounter anything specifically related to a call would be an idiotic policy. After you are already on the block, that would be idiotic. There's usually some preliminary house-keeping and note-taking from the call ticket on the screen that doesn't need to be recorded, and recording all of that uselessly on each call would add up to a lot of needless recording and cut down on BWC battery life. You really have to be selective on when you're running your camera; if you run it for every little thing at the beginning of your shift, you'll run out of battery life long before the end of an eight hour shift. So I generally turn my camera on as I get out of the car and do some narrative for the benefit of the guy who runs our camera program so he knows what call ticket to attach the video to. I can see where having her approach the car would short circuit that normal process if they follow a similar process. I've had people approach my car as I've arrived and before I've gotten out/ started my BWC |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 3:26:54 AM EDT
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You willing to pay for such a nonexistent high tech piece of gear? I generally turn mine on when I get out of my car. There's usually some preliminary house-keeping and note-taking from the call ticket on the screen that doesn't need to be recorded, and recording all of that uselessly on each call would add up to a lot of needless recording and cut down on BWC battery life. You really have to be selective on when you're running your camera; if you run it for every little thing at the beginning of your shift, you'll run out of battery life long before the end of an eight hour shift. So I generally turn my camera on as I get out of the car and do some narrative for the benefit of the guy who runs our camera program so he knows what call ticket to attach the video to. I can see where having her approach the car would short circuit that normal process if they follow a similar process. I've had people approach my car as I've arrived and before I've gotten out/ started my BWC Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not having a cam turned on because you're not expecting anything is like not having a round chambered. Let's put an auxilary sensor in the holster that ensures the cam is on if your weapon is drawn. Quoted:
So if you are on the block where the call report was from, and don’t have your cameras on, then when would you turn them on? After you first encounter either a witness or suspect? After you have bailed out of the car? After you have already arrested someone? Any policy that didn’t start recording before an officer would be likely to encounter anything specifically related to a call would be an idiotic policy. After you are already on the block, that would be idiotic. There's usually some preliminary house-keeping and note-taking from the call ticket on the screen that doesn't need to be recorded, and recording all of that uselessly on each call would add up to a lot of needless recording and cut down on BWC battery life. You really have to be selective on when you're running your camera; if you run it for every little thing at the beginning of your shift, you'll run out of battery life long before the end of an eight hour shift. So I generally turn my camera on as I get out of the car and do some narrative for the benefit of the guy who runs our camera program so he knows what call ticket to attach the video to. I can see where having her approach the car would short circuit that normal process if they follow a similar process. I've had people approach my car as I've arrived and before I've gotten out/ started my BWC Body cams were expensive. Many cops didn’t want to wear or use them. And yet they have generally supported officers and their statements, not the bad guys. I expect the same will happen when they are activated by the act of drawing a gun. Sure would have answered a lot of questions here, ya think? Maybe in the mean time departments, and officers, might want to rethink when they start recording. So they don’t get short circuited and miss that part when someone ends up dead. And I don’t think you individually are doing anything wrong. But I also don’t think anything will change in the Minneapolis PD either, until they are forced to. Again, good cops should be all for this. |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 6:13:34 AM EDT
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Dude needs to be in prison. |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 6:31:09 AM EDT
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Most likely outcome is Noor will see no penalty beyond the loss of his job, and a fresh recruit selected only on the basis of demographics will be hired in his place. This new recruit will be equally skilled in the law, policy, marksmanship, and courage. There's a TINY possibility that this case will cause policies to be passed requiring constantly running cameras, or, as I hope, legislation that dictates state wide camera policy as well as periodic review and fines for officers found to be failing to turn cameras on when they should. EVENTUALLY, this kind of behavior is going to continue until the citizenry is sick of police being able to shoot at the smallest provocation and use the magic words 'but I was scared!' and changes are going to be made. Some potential changes that I personally hope for is #1 strip an officer involved in such an incident of credentials permanently. #2 instead of viewing those cases in the split second of the shooting, back it up 5 minutes and say 'Did the officer take appropriate steps leading up to the shooting? Did his actions de escalate or escalate the situation? Did he approach the situation in a way that allowed him to be as informed as possible?' So if officers really thought they were likely to be driving into an ambush and stated this was why they shot so quickly, the question then becomes, if an officer really thought he was driving into an ambush, wouldn't he #1 turn his body camera on #2 sweep the area with his lights extensively as he approached #3 called for backup #4 chosen the spot to stop the squad in the best tactical location #5 both partners would be looking out eyes peeled for threat vs chatting casually. |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 7:18:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Since the technology already exists, it’s just a matter of how much society cares about dead citizens. Body cams were expensive. Many cops didn’t want to wear or use them. And yet they have generally supported officers and their statements, not the bad guys. I expect the same will happen when they are activated by the act of drawing a gun. Sure would have answered a lot of questions here, ya think? Maybe in the mean time departments, and officers, might want to rethink when they start recording. So they don’t get short circuited and miss that part when someone ends up dead. And I don’t think you individually are doing anything wrong. But I also don’t think anything will change in the Minneapolis PD either, until they are forced to. Again, good cops should be all for this. SJWs are upset that the cameras didn't support their anti-police rhetoric. This tech may exist, but its beyond what most agencies and their localities will pay. A standard police duty holster runs around $200 just for the holster, already a steep cost per officer. Agencies aren't going to be willing to double or triple that expense. Dollars and cents. I've said this before, but agencies in general are a lot poorer than many here seem to realize. |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 8:22:01 AM EDT
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The second bodycam clip is nevertheless crucial. She talked to Harrity upon arrival. The second clip captures Harrity’s explanation of the shooting to Barnette: “She just came out of nowhere on the side of the thing [squad car] and we both got spooked. I had my gun out. I didn’t fire. And then Noor pulled out and fired.”
Well there it is. He got spooked and fired his gun. Now it's up to a jury to determine if it was criminal. |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 8:23:55 AM EDT
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So if you are on the block where the call report was from, and don’t have your cameras on, then when would you turn them on? After you first encounter either a witness or suspect? After you have bailed out of the car? After you have already arrested someone? Any policy that didn’t start recording before an officer would be likely to encounter anything specifically related to a call would be an idiotic policy. After you are already on the block, that would be idiotic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Interesting article. Everything I've heard/read so far is that they didn't have any expectation to be making contact at the moment the shooting occurred, so I don't know that they'd have reason to have turned their body cams on yet. ..... |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 8:31:11 AM EDT
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Since the technology already exists, it’s just a matter of how much society cares about dead citizens. Body cams were expensive. Many cops didn’t want to wear or use them. And yet they have generally supported officers and their statements, not the bad guys. I expect the same will happen when they are activated by the act of drawing a gun. Sure would have answered a lot of questions here, ya think? Maybe in the mean time departments, and officers, might want to rethink when they start recording. So they don’t get short circuited and miss that part when someone ends up dead. And I don’t think you individually are doing anything wrong. But I also don’t think anything will change in the Minneapolis PD either, until they are forced to. Again, good cops should be all for this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not having a cam turned on because you're not expecting anything is like not having a round chambered. Let's put an auxilary sensor in the holster that ensures the cam is on if your weapon is drawn. Quoted:
So if you are on the block where the call report was from, and don’t have your cameras on, then when would you turn them on? After you first encounter either a witness or suspect? After you have bailed out of the car? After you have already arrested someone? Any policy that didn’t start recording before an officer would be likely to encounter anything specifically related to a call would be an idiotic policy. After you are already on the block, that would be idiotic. There's usually some preliminary house-keeping and note-taking from the call ticket on the screen that doesn't need to be recorded, and recording all of that uselessly on each call would add up to a lot of needless recording and cut down on BWC battery life. You really have to be selective on when you're running your camera; if you run it for every little thing at the beginning of your shift, you'll run out of battery life long before the end of an eight hour shift. So I generally turn my camera on as I get out of the car and do some narrative for the benefit of the guy who runs our camera program so he knows what call ticket to attach the video to. I can see where having her approach the car would short circuit that normal process if they follow a similar process. I've had people approach my car as I've arrived and before I've gotten out/ started my BWC Body cams were expensive. Many cops didn’t want to wear or use them. And yet they have generally supported officers and their statements, not the bad guys. I expect the same will happen when they are activated by the act of drawing a gun. Sure would have answered a lot of questions here, ya think? Maybe in the mean time departments, and officers, might want to rethink when they start recording. So they don’t get short circuited and miss that part when someone ends up dead. And I don’t think you individually are doing anything wrong. But I also don’t think anything will change in the Minneapolis PD either, until they are forced to. Again, good cops should be all for this. But what he said is true about BC battery life. iirc you only get about 2 to 2.5 hours of actual record time on a charge. So I try to use it only when necessary. The BC is "on" during the whole shift, it is just not in record mode till you hit the button. |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 8:31:36 AM EDT
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Not having a cam turned on because you're not expecting anything is like not having a round chambered. Let's put an auxilary sensor in the holster that ensures the cam is on if your weapon is drawn. Outside of that, you'd need to manually start recording. |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 8:34:03 AM EDT
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The reality is that for some agencies, the BWC craze is already ending, as they've found that they cannot support the associated costs. SJWs are upset that the cameras didn't support their anti-police rhetoric. This tech may exist, but its beyond what most agencies and their localities will pay. A standard police duty holster runs around $200 just for the holster, already a steep cost per officer. Agencies aren't going to be willing to double or triple that expense. Dollars and cents. I've said this before, but agencies in general are a lot poorer than many here seem to realize. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Since the technology already exists, it’s just a matter of how much society cares about dead citizens. Body cams were expensive. Many cops didn’t want to wear or use them. And yet they have generally supported officers and their statements, not the bad guys. I expect the same will happen when they are activated by the act of drawing a gun. Sure would have answered a lot of questions here, ya think? Maybe in the mean time departments, and officers, might want to rethink when they start recording. So they don’t get short circuited and miss that part when someone ends up dead. And I don’t think you individually are doing anything wrong. But I also don’t think anything will change in the Minneapolis PD either, until they are forced to. Again, good cops should be all for this. SJWs are upset that the cameras didn't support their anti-police rhetoric. This tech may exist, but its beyond what most agencies and their localities will pay. A standard police duty holster runs around $200 just for the holster, already a steep cost per officer. Agencies aren't going to be willing to double or triple that expense. Dollars and cents. I've said this before, but agencies in general are a lot poorer than many here seem to realize. These are "wear out" items and as the more expensive models are wearing out we are replacing with cheaper gear. Why spend $1K+ on a good BC, when we can buy those cheap $100 units off of Amazon. The problem with that is the failure rate is greater on those cheaper units. |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 8:36:14 AM EDT
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That was weird to me also. Is the regular Association not diverse enough? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Somali-American Police Officers Association" But wasn't he the only Somali cop? Was there a union just for him? |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 8:42:44 AM EDT
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How much trouble would it be to install cameras that cover the entire 360 degree perimeter of the car instead of having just the dash cam? I'm guessing that information storage would be the biggest pain in the ass, but then again, you could rewrite the regulations to say that only actual footage of actual incidents must be saved until inexpensive storage methods are developed.
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Posted: 4/19/2019 8:48:47 AM EDT
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The reality is that for some agencies, the BWC craze is already ending, as they've found that they cannot support the associated costs. SJWs are upset that the cameras didn't support their anti-police rhetoric. This tech may exist, but its beyond what most agencies and their localities will pay. A standard police duty holster runs around $200 just for the holster, already a steep cost per officer. Agencies aren't going to be willing to double or triple that expense. Dollars and cents. I've said this before, but agencies in general are a lot poorer than many here seem to realize. |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 8:56:56 AM EDT
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Guaranteed. Multiple defense theories will be used, from PTSD from the Somalia civil war to racial discrimination in the US to "she made a move, he had to get it on." It'll be blamed on bad training or some shit & all this will be swept under the rug after the not guilty verdict. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He’ll probably get off... Multiple defense theories will be used, from PTSD from the Somalia civil war to racial discrimination in the US to "she made a move, he had to get it on." It'll be blamed on bad training or some shit & all this will be swept under the rug after the not guilty verdict. I wonder if the cop blockers here actually hope he's acquitted, just to validate their goofy bullshit. |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 8:58:23 AM EDT
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Wonder what our founders would think of the notion of giving a gun and badge to a man who follows a religion based on the killing, deception, and destruction of western democratic values?
Islam and America are, at their core, polar opposites. No muslim should ever hold authority over any American, ever. Not in the classroom, the city hall, or the law. I would rather die than submit to the phony authority of one of these Neanderthals. I learned everything I needed to know about them on 9/11 and in the wars following. I heard the shots from the Garland art show shooting from my office parking lot, this filth is right here in my backyard. They’ve got the guts to attack our schools, malls, workplaces, or shoot ‘accidentally’ a white woman in her pajamas, and then have the nerve to bitch and moan about hatred when somebody hoses down one of their mosques? Time to turn this affirmative action hired officer into a windchime, and send a message to the Somalimuzz community. You are guests here, act like it. |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 8:59:16 AM EDT
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Not having a cam turned on because you're not expecting anything is like not having a round chambered. Let's put an auxilary sensor in the holster that ensures the cam is on if your weapon is drawn. |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 9:01:45 AM EDT
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How much trouble would it be to install cameras that cover the entire 360 degree perimeter of the car instead of having just the dash cam? I'm guessing that information storage would be the biggest pain in the ass, but then again, you could rewrite the regulations to say that only actual footage of actual incidents must be saved until inexpensive storage methods are developed. The same with body cameras, live video stream to central base. To me that is where the future is going. The cameras themselves won't store the video, it will be transmitted live through a cellular system back to headquarters for live review and storage. But it won't be universal. |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 9:01:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2019 9:02:13 AM EDT
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Way back when this happened, the reports was a person, in the dark and unrecognizable, was running toward them in their squad car. If it was not expected the complainant would be there to greet them, then I could imagine they suspected an ambush or bad guy intent on harming them. Everyday on arfcom GD we hear keyborne rangers tell us how they are going to shoot them some bad guy if he even looks sideways at them. But GD also wants to string up every police officer for everything, especially when they have no clue of what actually happened. Monday morning quarterbacking is an arfcom GD sport that is highly competitive. Like the DPD cop Amber somebody shooting the guy in his own apartment, while far and few between, some police shootings are just bad. |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 9:05:15 AM EDT
[#44]
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That’s -not- racist. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Somali-American Police Officers Association" |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 9:15:41 AM EDT
[#45]
She should have been wearing her head scarf.
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Posted: 4/19/2019 9:29:26 AM EDT
[#46]
When you invite the man into your life, you shouldn't leave the house or your car, let them come to you, have all the lights on. Cops are human they make mistakes, don't help them make a mistake. Better yet don't invite the man into your life. She could have called the cops and then stayed put.
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Posted: 4/19/2019 9:32:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She was talking to his partner, who was in the driver's seat. Maybe wearing PJ's instead of a hijab pushed gigabrain over the edge. Allah! She has not covered herself! Derka derka derka BANG. https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2017_29/2074881/170717-justine-damond-cr-0721_0da1170e4f52f4596dbccd23e257cfa1.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/20/20/4A61A5DE00000578-5524259-Noor_pictured_shot_Damond_in_the_stomach_when_she_approached_his-m-11_1521578383008.jpg Don't take my word for it. Let the official state legal dude handle it: "State prosecutor and head of the County Attorney's office, Mike Freeman, said that there was 'no evidence' that Noor was threatened by Justine. 'In the short time between when Ms Damond-Ruszczyk approached the squad car and the time Officer Noor fired the fatal shot, there is no evidence that officer Noor encountered a threat, appreciated a threat, investigated a threat or confirmed a threat that justified his decision to use deadly force,' he said. 'Instead, Officer Noor recklessly and intentionally fired his handgun from the passenger seat in disregard for human life. Such actions violate the criminal law.' Ever had someone fire past you from the passenger seat? I sure haven't. What was genius thinking? Seriously. What kind of guy instinct pushes one to shoot an unarmed female seeking help? Maybe I'm just uncultured. 
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Posted: 4/19/2019 9:35:57 AM EDT
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Islam and America are, at their core, polar opposites. No muslim should ever hold authority over any American, ever. Not in the classroom, the city hall, or the law. |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 9:39:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a Black-only Police union in Baltimore, "The Vanguard". They apparently have a lot of political pull (I learned this on the Wire but I looked it up and it's a thing). But wasn't he the only Somali cop? Was there a union just for him? |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 9:41:03 AM EDT
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The Dallas PD has a black police officer association and a Latino police officer association. |
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