Only to have new black rap groups step in and continue to promote the same normative values of intercity black male culture that rap groups of the 90's promoted.

 
It's as if the driving factor behind the culture of urban violence is predicated on the culture enforcing it's own normative values on the youth creating a perpetual cycle that is starting it's what, fourth or fifth generation?

I came to the same conclusion in my study of peoples and cultures.

Race does not mean much. About the only somewhat useful indicator of intellectual capacity of one group versus another is brain size, which is linked to good nutrition and a healthy gene pool. But even that is subjective. Smaller brains can have more connections than larger ones thanks to regional quarks like diet and climate.

Really, there is no objective measure of the potential of human beings.

Bad culture will destroy any human population, and any attempt at complex civil society.

 
That in my opinion can be blamed on the Liberals.




After the civil rights movement they adopted blacks as their pet, and began feeding them with social services, and encouraging a distrust for the government (something that is still going on)




Living on welfare isn't a very good way to live at all. When all you get is a fixed income, you are taken care of, but trapped at the same time. It's my opinion that living under these conditions makes crime an attractive outlet. They don't need work to live ,and they also have forgot what it is to work at all. How else would they get money? Add multiple generations of this and it becomes an system of crime and poverty.




There were blacks that didn't take this carrot, but it seems that when you look at this is where all of those problems come from.




There are now whites and Latinos continuing down this path. I belive the more social services that are received the larger this problem will become and less definable by race.




It's a ghetto culture that can only exist because the government didn't leave well enough alone.




 

A lot of mobility does that.  Blacks move between the cities where they feel comfortable, a neighbor couple is a Puerto Rican male who lived in NYC married to a black woman from Baltimore, they live in the Atlanta area for jobs, but apparently feel comfortable here due to the large black population (went to a Father's Day picnic at their house, I was the only white there, which my wife noticed when she got there after work).  When I worked at a historically black university, the students tended to come from certain urban enclaves and moved on to other enclaves after graduation, if they didn't stay in Atlanta.  But they would be in communication with their buddies in New York, Baltimore, DC, etc...  As was evidenced when FreakNik rolled around...



 

My anthropology teacher about shit when I presented a lot of the same arguments, but since I backed them with evidence she couldn't' do a whole lot about it.

 

My GF at the time didn't understand why my buddy and I suddenly turned the car around when heading to Pensacola beach, when we realized we were in freaknik/ urban beachweek/ whatever it's called traffic heading there.

Actually, George Washington Carver accurately depicted the "leaders" who depend on followers who are encouraged to see themselves as victims who must be saved by those "leaders"...  They encourage a culture of dependence, that self-determination is meaningless, that government is their tool for protection (despite the fact that government historically has been the tool used to oppress them), that education isn't important, etc...  



 

Is that so?

How about our prezzy saying that if he had a son, he'd look like Trayvon Martin? That's the leader of the Western economy aligning himself with a black thug. Surprise surprise, liberals the world over followed in lockstep and bathed themselves in their own compassionate tears, wailing and gnashing their teeth over the death of a criminal. They sure as fuck wouldn't have joined in a gigantic social movement over, say, a Filipino guy.

Or Ferguson. The mainstream narrative is that Mike Brown was a bright young guy who died right before he started college. Factually, that's blatantly inaccurate, but because he's black, he gets a pass. (Pun intended.) Now, god help us, we have the "Ferguson syllabus" being circulated to "educate white folks" about why they're responsible for this "innocent" young man being gunned down "in cold blood." The entire academic world, with a few exceptions, has fallen in with this bullshit. Which means that this is the narrative - the dominant narrative, to use the language of "marginalized peoples" - that is being taught, and will continue to be taught, to college students.

Or the fact that well more than half of American blacks are on the government tit. Which is funded mostly by white taxpayerss. But you're so hated, right.

Or the fact that diversity quotas mean that you would be hired over a more competent white guy. This outcome makes no logical sense whatsoever, but it goes far to assuage the guilt that has infected around half the population like a cancer. Half the population wants to excuse every crime black people do, every instance of racism instantiated by blacks, because - and I've heard this verbatim - "Black people are victims."

That leaves the remaining half of the population. You'll always have a few nutters, like the modern-day white supremacy movement, but they hate everyone, not just blacks. And some blacks hate all non-blacks. Every population has a few bona fide racists in it. But this is the best time in history to be black in America: You have college scholarships galore, and colleges are more than willing to overlook the shitty high school education that blacks statistically receive, because of their diversity quotas. You have welfare that is geared toward serving blacks more than whites (I've been there, it's a long and shitty story). You have a media culpable of covering up, or even (no pun intended) whitewashing stories of black crime, because the dominant narrative (there's that SJW language again) is that blacks are victims and will always be victims, and whites are and always will be to blame for the supposedly unfortunate lives that blacks live -  ignoring the fact that if a black person wants to better him/herself, all s/he has to do is reach out a hand and grab one of the many, many handouts that are just waiting, created by white guilt and funded by largely white taxpayers.

If anything, Black Lives Matter is a racist-ass organization that deliberately targets white people for its hatred. But let's not talk about that, right?

 
Lulz, I should really go back to school, if only for the opportunity to troll libs

So, what's that say about the suburban youth that are driving those album sales?

A lot of people are trying to equate "inner city" culture to black culture....
So are those of us not part of this culture less black than the ones who are?

According to Al Sharpton et al., yes.

black culture has traditionally only been defined by food music and family traditions like any other culture.   What we have now is a thug culture and a victim culture which has been pushed onto black people by the new plantation masters we call democrats.  They are raised to embrace their thug language and activity and tuaght to never try somethin else because they dont stand a chance so they should embrace thug culture as black culture.    Keeps them from getting uppity and making something of themselves and keeps democrats in power.

I've seen it insinuated more than once that that is the case.

My uncle's family were black farmers from MO and I've seen a ghetto leech from Chicago call him an uncle tom motherfucker because he wasn't "inner city" enough. My cousin gets shit all the time because people at her school equate being successful with acting white.

Obviously this attitude could simply be endemic to my area and not indicative of the entire black community as a whole.

It was invented by those who knew how to make a profit from it both financially and politically the parents & grandparents of America's own red diaper babies.

 
No shit.


I don't think poverty breeds crime in and of itself. I do believe that welfare does.

That's unfortunately been fairly common in most of the places I've lived with large black populations (inner-city school in Norfolk, heavily urban black high school, urban Atlanta, etc)...  I know black men and women who try to fight against such attitudes, but families that want to avoid it typically have to move to areas with fewer urban blacks to try to keep their kids away from it.  



 

I'm not sure I understand your question. Almost seems rhetorical.

Care to explain what you mean a little better.

That black lives matter.

 

It's like a whole population of people trying to be the exact same person. The same shitty person. What other "culture" do you have where 98% of them think and vote the same? They are fucking brain washed.

Even 10 years ago before that bullshit narrative started?

You proved your own question. Very large percentages of the black population have accepted those trinkets as a choice. They continue to not only do so but demand more. Your post defines that culture. There will always be exceptions but those exceptions prove the rule.

I'm not sure the point of the post. To blame liberals? The black community has not only embraced liberals but has promoted that "culture" at every turn. Their choices make it their culture. There will always be an exception. Maybe one day the exceptions will become the culture. We can only hope. But as we have learned so painfully over the past 8 years, hope is not a strategy!

I think OP might be trolling. Insert not sure if serious meme.

 

[stares in race baiting]

So suburban teenagers bought rap albums in 2006 because of All?

Come up with a better reason then the cyclical nature of black cultural leaders in arts and politics pushing a narrative to establish norms.
If you're so knowledgeable and wise in the issues it should be easy right?

What black leaders?  Are black leaders heading any of the major media conglomerates that steer popular culture?

Oprah, maybe, and her company is going tits up last I listened enough to care.

Wait, so lets circle back around here.

 


You can't articulate things in the framework of anthropological or sociological terms, you're not that up on cultural identifiers and cultural identity and how it's expressed internally and externally, so on and so forth.




So at this point, what are you even arguing for or against?  




Because it appears that your lack of context and straw grasping has managed to make you red herring yourself.





ETA- as well as attempted to be critical of people and only to have ended up exposing your own lack of knowledge.


Awkward.

 

Awkward for whom?

Look up 2042. People wetting themselves in anticipation of the year that whites will become the minority. The hatred for white people exists.

And you'd be right. Welfare infantilizes people, it fosters dependency, which in turn destroys human dignity and self-respect.

As to that cartoon, that was so over the top, I actually started laughing when I saw it. Kind of hard to take any page with that on it seriously.

I call it shitty English.

Well, when people talk about things that are out of thier depth, or at least pretend to, it can't be awkward for them, because they don't know any better.

 
So clearly awkward for those who are not, watching the flailing atop the high horse waiting for the fall.




I mean, remember that part where you tried to be all "And your degree is in what, exactly?"? Then it turns out a lot of my education is centered directly on the topic we're discussing?
What's yours? Since your only real argument in this thread so far is an inferred dick measuring contest.

The problem is this, that the MAJORITY are dependent on the government and refuse to make the right choices to make their own lives better.

They live as consumers, and not savers. The important things to them are material goods and services and can not change spending habits to be self sufficient. (Obviously there are also other races that do this as well but not to the extent you see in the black community)

When you live as a consumer, and everything you make is spent the same week or month, you cannot have upward mobility. The problem is, that the ones who do try and get ahead can't because members of their own race will make their lives miserable for even attempting it.

Just watch these videos.
Youtube

Fighting over Jordan's
Youtube

Burglars family blames victim, and city because he needed money for school clothes..
Youtube

Very similar problems with the natives here.

My argument is based off my experience with others, not some fancy numbers.

Not trolling.



Ghetto, thug, inner city, whatever culture is not known to every black American, and it is not claimed by only blacks. Therefore it it's not a " Black American" culture.





 

So, in other words, you're pulling out a babydick.

 

 
I have to disagree. If black Americans were known to be like asians, society would feel the same about them as they do asians, which is quite positive. Except for the bad driving thing. If asians took on the black crime rate, attitude, and behavior, asians would have a public relations problem same as black folks.


Making fun of someones appearance isn`t hate or racism, it's just distasteful and rude.

Or I've been fucking around this whole time and really don't give a shit about any of the "race issues" in this country.

Don't whip out a micro penis in a black culture thread.

Fucking "white privilege" strikes again.

I previously addressed that issue.  "or at least pretend to".


Unfortunately, you're not really that good at fucking around and pretending not to care.


Like I said earlier, it's awkward to watch.




 

So don't. It's easier to control your own actions than the actions of others.

If that's true why is there still so much crime in urban areas primarily populated by blacks at a higher per capita rate than other areas?

 

Fucked if I really care.  I moved to a city with a extremely small percentage of minorities so all I had to worry about was heroin and methods related crime.

i love rap music, nba, guns and used to drink a lot of malt liquor and smoke a ton of newport cigarettes...

Newport Reds, though, can't stand those menthols.

Did anyone say the love of a big juicy booty yet?





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