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As hard as it will be to lose my life long partner one day. Or God forbid she lose me first. It's harder for me to even fathom doing life alone.
I'm just not built for it. A lot of people are. My FIL is. He has a female friend and a lot of friends, and he seems to love his life. I just can't do it. |
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...figured it was just psychological warfare.
I’d treat it as such. |
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Ouch tough crowd OP. View Quote I don't mind or take it the least bit personal, but I think some folks are missing the point (I had hoped to make).... I was simply being brutally honest about not being up on "the latest pop-culture acronyms" , with respect to my own thoughts/feelings.... I still "enjoy" women (more than ever actually), but I am done with being manipulated, playing games, and relinquishing full control of my life choices to someone else (women or men) |
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I love my wife, but if for some reason it doesn't work out. I'm not getting married again.
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Never heard of it, but not sure it needs an acronym or “community”.
There have been single people since the dawn of human existence. |
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OP, surely you know there are chicks out there, hot ones, fun ones, that only want to fuck right? Why swear off women when you can have all the fun of fucking them without obligation, and date the fun ones for a while.....again, without obligation?
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All that bullshit and you don't bother explaining what the letters stand for? And no, I have just enough give a shit to comment here and not enough to google what you left out. Fucking stupid. At least we both agree you'll die alone. View Quote |
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Quoted: haha.. thanks for noticing I don't mind or take it the least bit personal, but I think some folks are missing the point (I had hoped to make).... I was simply being brutally honest about not being up on "the latest pop-culture acronyms" , with respect to my own thoughts/feelings.... I still "enjoy" women (more than ever actually), but I am done with being manipulated, playing games, and relinquishing full control of my life choices to someone else (women or men) View Quote |
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Quoted: Man you guys get so butthurt over it. You all want to talk all this shit then go off and cry about it when someone calls you on it - maybe not you personally, I have no idea but the other guys sure get upset over getting called on it.... Sorry, not sorry I call out stupidity when I see it. Deal with it ETA- you could have at least tagged me in this, I almost missed the call out! One last thing- ask yourself how many threads I've started on the topic (0), then go see how many threads the he-man woman hater (MGTOW/TRP) club has started (100s) and ask yourself finally who are the ones obsessed with the topic. View Quote No need to @you, you know you love these threads. Just don’t be surprised when GD only know your username because 90% of your posts are on one subject. |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW /'m?gta?/) is a mostly pseudonymous online community[3][4] of men supported by websites and social media presences[5] cautioning men against serious romantic relationships with women, especially marriage.[6][7] The community is part of what is more broadly termed the manosphere. MGTOW have "...vowed to stay away from women, stop dating and not have children".[9] MGTOW focuses on men's self-ownership rather than changing the status quo through activism and protest, making MGTOW distinct from the men's rights movement.[10] The Southern Poverty Law Center has identified MGTOW as a male supremacist group.[11] View Quote |
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Just don’t be surprised when GD only know your username because 90% of your posts are on one subject. View Quote If that's what you think, then you spend way too much time in these kinds of threads. ETA- I just looked in my subscriptions, out of the 50 threads on my first page, five (5) have anything to do with this stuff. I have more active video game, travel, and workout threads. Nice try though Serious question though- why is it just fine for the same old actors to post same old MGTOW/TRP shit over and fucking over, but it's a problem for me to call out the bullshit? Seriously, I've never once started a thread on it- but I'M the problem? Think about that for a bit. |
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OP, surely you know there are chicks out there, hot ones, fun ones, that only want to fuck right? Why swear off women when you can have all the fun of fucking them without obligation, and date the fun ones for a while.....again, without obligation? View Quote I have sworn off them being in control, and/or "the system" that puts them in control... From most I have read/seen, "MGTOW" does NOT equal giving up the best women have to offer, it's about calling "bullshit" on their bullshit |
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I was seriously thinking about going MGTOW.
But my wife said no. |
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Is this like dude-eminism? Male empowerment? Will there be a march with giant dick hats?
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Quoted: If that's what you think, then you spend way too much time in these kinds of threads. Serious question though- why is it just fine for the same old actors to post same old MGTOW/TRP shit over and fucking over, but it's a problem for me to call out the bullshit? Seriously, I've never once started a thread on it- but I'M the problem? Think about that for a bit. View Quote Relax and switch to decaf, nobody’s after you. |
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Quoted: Man you guys get so butthurt over it. You all want to talk all this shit then go off and cry about it when someone calls you on it - maybe not you personally, I have no idea but the other guys sure get upset over getting called on it.... Sorry, not sorry I call out stupidity when I see it. Deal with it ETA- you could have at least tagged me in this, I almost missed the call out! One last thing- ask yourself how many threads I've started on the topic (0), then go see how many threads the he-man woman hater (MGTOW/TRP) club has started (100s) and ask yourself finally who are the ones obsessed with the topic. View Quote I don't know about marrying crazy Russian girls though. Even though my brother may be going to do that. |
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Is this like dude-eminism? Male empowerment? Will there be a march with giant dick hats? View Quote The "me too" culture is knida scary if you give pause to consider it's premise |
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I am an introvert but it seems weird to get excited about a movement or community of people centered around that. If you need support I don't think you enjoy being alone as much as you think you do.
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I dunno.... I had (before I fucked up bad...) a good 33 year long marriage, kids, house, cars, $$$.. pretty much "everything" the American dream can offer a man But, after learning a few VERY HARD life lessons, I realized that the "system" in this country, this culture is terribly slanted against men, rather much in favor of the females. I also learned A LOT about "women" after almost 6 decades on this planet........ Call me loser, call me "beta" WTF you wish, but young(er) men be warned and NO, I am not gay or :coming out"... haha I am simply beginning to understand there is a better way than the bill of goods that I was sold ever since my childhood View Quote |
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Ay man, we all knew Sylvan’s dealio was .mil discussions, LittlePony likes dudes, Erin beats up Antifas, and you like red pill discussions. You know you do. Relax and switch to decaf, nobody’s after you. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: If that's what you think, then you spend way too much time in these kinds of threads. Serious question though- why is it just fine for the same old actors to post same old MGTOW/TRP shit over and fucking over, but it's a problem for me to call out the bullshit? Seriously, I've never once started a thread on it- but I'M the problem? Think about that for a bit. Relax and switch to decaf, nobody’s after you. I'll remind you here again- YOU are the one that started this discussion with me. Not the other way around. I had nothing to say in this thread until you called me out. You really think 5 out of 50 threads in my subscriptions means it's "what I do" get over yourself. |
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Hey a thread we agree on. I don't know about marrying crazy Russian girls though. Even though my brother may be going to do that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Man you guys get so butthurt over it. You all want to talk all this shit then go off and cry about it when someone calls you on it - maybe not you personally, I have no idea but the other guys sure get upset over getting called on it.... Sorry, not sorry I call out stupidity when I see it. Deal with it ETA- you could have at least tagged me in this, I almost missed the call out! One last thing- ask yourself how many threads I've started on the topic (0), then go see how many threads the he-man woman hater (MGTOW/TRP) club has started (100s) and ask yourself finally who are the ones obsessed with the topic. I don't know about marrying crazy Russian girls though. Even though my brother may be going to do that. |
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One thing I learned early on is that women only have control that you give them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: haha.. thanks for noticing I don't mind or take it the least bit personal, but I think some folks are missing the point (I had hoped to make).... I was simply being brutally honest about not being up on "the latest pop-culture acronyms" , with respect to my own thoughts/feelings.... I still "enjoy" women (more than ever actually), but I am done with being manipulated, playing games, and relinquishing full control of my life choices to someone else (women or men) Attached File |
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Men Going Their Own Way. View Quote Personally, I was mistaken about it and believed they swore off women completely. it turns out they will still date and have sex with women. They just do not co-habitate with them, marry them, or put that "relationship" ahead of stuff like work, the gym, finances. |
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Meh, I’ll take fucking my smoking hot wife daily over being alone.
Hard pass. |
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I am an introvert but it seems weird to get excited about a movement or community of people centered around that. If you need support I don't think you enjoy being alone as much as you think you do. I wouldn't call you names but it seems like you have gone through some shit and you might not be dealing with it very well and have grown a bit misogynist. Have you tried talking to an actual therapist? It works better than seeking out other mentally ill people for support. View Quote I am simply sharing that I have grown, matured, through life experiences to realize that traditional roles between men and women have evolved to being very "toxic", or arguable unfair to men. I dare say that most men who have enjoyed "the ass rape" in divorce court, can identify with how I feel at times, but again I am not bitter, I have just awakened to the reality of life in todays norms |
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So I take it you won't be answering my question. I didn't think so Classic, discount what someone says by pretending they are worked up about it. I'll remind you here again- YOU are the one that started this discussion with me. Not the other way around. I had nothing to say in this thread until you called me out. You really think 5 out of 50 threads in my subscriptions means it's "what I do" get over yourself. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: If that's what you think, then you spend way too much time in these kinds of threads. Serious question though- why is it just fine for the same old actors to post same old MGTOW/TRP shit over and fucking over, but it's a problem for me to call out the bullshit? Seriously, I've never once started a thread on it- but I'M the problem? Think about that for a bit. Relax and switch to decaf, nobody's after you. I'll remind you here again- YOU are the one that started this discussion with me. Not the other way around. I had nothing to say in this thread until you called me out. You really think 5 out of 50 threads in my subscriptions means it's "what I do" get over yourself. |
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Quoted: Well, the reason I didn't spell it out (MGTOW = Men Going Their Own Way), is because I truly thought I was pretty much the only one not to know, I was pretty sure I was way late on the uptake :) View Quote |
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Quoted: So I take it you won't be answering my question. I didn't think so You really think 5 out of 50 threads in my subscriptions means it's "what I do" get over yourself. View Quote I ACTUALLY don’t care about these threads, and now you’re in “cash me ousside” mode, which I find boring and unfun. Sooo keep refreshing this page and someone else will take the bait. Imma go find something less tedious. |
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As a criminal defense lawyer I see at least two men every week who are falsely accused of assaulting their wives or girlfriends.
I also see at least one man a month who is falsely accused of sexually assaulting a woman. And every Tuesday in family court I see men getting court-raped. Now I am stuck with Crabby and luckily she obeys me most of the time. But if I were single again, I would not risk my freedom by being with a woman. I would be MGTOW all the way |
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OP, surely you know there are chicks out there, hot ones, fun ones, that only want to fuck right? Why swear off women when you can have all the fun of fucking them without obligation, and date the fun ones for a while.....again, without obligation? View Quote |
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Yeahhhh you’re not sucking me into a debate about whatever MRA bullishit you don’t like. I ACTUALLY don’t care about these threads, and now you’re in “cash me ousside” mode, which I find boring and unfun. Sooo keep refreshing this page and someone else will take the bait. Imma go find something less tedious. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: So I take it you won't be answering my question. I didn't think so You really think 5 out of 50 threads in my subscriptions means it's "what I do" get over yourself. I ACTUALLY don’t care about these threads, and now you’re in “cash me ousside” mode, which I find boring and unfun. Sooo keep refreshing this page and someone else will take the bait. Imma go find something less tedious. That's how this whole shit show started- YOU called me out by name, now you're trying to make me out to be the one looking for a fight. Pathetic |
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You've obviously impressed some people. Maybe just accept your place in the pack and move on? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: If that's what you think, then you spend way too much time in these kinds of threads. Serious question though- why is it just fine for the same old actors to post same old MGTOW/TRP shit over and fucking over, but it's a problem for me to call out the bullshit? Seriously, I've never once started a thread on it- but I'M the problem? Think about that for a bit. Relax and switch to decaf, nobody's after you. I'll remind you here again- YOU are the one that started this discussion with me. Not the other way around. I had nothing to say in this thread until you called me out. You really think 5 out of 50 threads in my subscriptions means it's "what I do" get over yourself. |
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Quoted: If that's what you think, then you spend way too much time in these kinds of threads. ETA- I just looked in my subscriptions, out of the 50 threads on my first page, five (5) have anything to do with this stuff. I have more active video game, travel, and workout threads. Nice try though Serious question though- why is it just fine for the same old actors to post same old MGTOW/TRP shit over and fucking over, but it's a problem for me to call out the bullshit? Seriously, I've never once started a thread on it- but I'M the problem? Think about that for a bit. View Quote |
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Best decision I made was to get married and have kids.
I take my kids shooting. They are good kids. I also take them to Church. I am raising conservative kids. My wife is smart, hot, works out every day, and takes good care of me and our kids. |
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Quoted: Good deal, and I hope it lasts your lifetime! But, In my case it didn't.. my smoking hot wife smoked my ass in divorce court, I wish you much better luck View Quote I’m not saying you should get married again, but I wouldn’t rule it out entirely as a possibility with the right woman. In the meantime chase tail and do whatever pleases you, which it seems you are. ETA: eh, if this one doesn’t work out I could see myself being quite hesitant to give it another try with someone else |
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If it saves one arfcommer from putting a gun in his mouth over a woman it's worth it. There are a lot of people on gun forums who are really bad with women. They could use some red pill reprogramming. it would save some marriages and lives both. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: If that's what you think, then you spend way too much time in these kinds of threads. ETA- I just looked in my subscriptions, out of the 50 threads on my first page, five (5) have anything to do with this stuff. I have more active video game, travel, and workout threads. Nice try though Serious question though- why is it just fine for the same old actors to post same old MGTOW/TRP shit over and fucking over, but it's a problem for me to call out the bullshit? Seriously, I've never once started a thread on it- but I'M the problem? Think about that for a bit. There's just a lot of other stuff that is not. |
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If you have instagram, search the MGTOW hashtag. some of the memes are hilarious.
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