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Link Posted: 9/11/2013 7:14:08 AM EDT
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Yes, no question about it.

 


I knew it the moment Bush announce the Department of Homeland Security.
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 7:14:56 AM EDT
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It seems we went into a rather rapid decline after 9/11



loss of civil liberties and such. government expanded. privacy removed. etc.
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I have sure as shit forgotten.



fuck the DHS

fuck the TSA

fuck the NSA

fuck the democrats and the republicans for handing us this tyranny.
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 7:15:30 AM EDT
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osama and satan are down in hell bent over double laughing their ass off and the devil looks at osama and says in between he-haws.. 'can you believe this shit'?

posted this yesterday. cumulative homicides in chicago (obamas home town) from 2011 through 2012 was over 6000 dead. so put that in perspective.

911 was a bad day but the changes it has caused in this country, two wars,  up-armored police, huge surveillance budget, spying on citizens at every level, loss of freedoms and privacy, TSA searches are the result of 20+ muslim men on a shoe-string budget that could have been prevented if the fbi had listened to some of its own agents.

fucking unbelievable.

Link Posted: 9/11/2013 7:20:30 AM EDT
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When Bush said "You're either with us or with the terrorists", little did we know that us meant big government and terrorists meant every American citizen.

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He didn't. The Government Employees did.

19 camel jockeys didn't turn us into East Germany, our own Royalists did.

All the Kennedy worshipers, the Militarists, the career civil servants. Its all about power- the power to force your will on another, and that takes money.

Watch the G20 type global cooperation to tax the hell out of everything. We have to hit bottom before we can recover. Think January 22, 2017.
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 7:25:05 AM EDT
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I'd say yes. I loved how the US came together so well in the weeks after 9/11/01, but cracks soon appeared and it wasn't long before everything fell apart.
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 7:28:16 AM EDT
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Since this is that thread. (I agree with the OP)



Never forget... Yes never forget the lost loved ones, and people who died that day.




But.




Are we going to let this event to continue to deprive us of our liberties?  We lost so much from the aftermath.   Is this going to be remembered like Pearl Harbor?  Or is this something else?






Link Posted: 9/11/2013 7:28:59 AM EDT
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I have sure as shit forgotten.



fuck the DHS

fuck the TSA

fuck the NSA

fuck the democrats and the republicans for handing us this tyranny.
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It seems we went into a rather rapid decline after 9/11



loss of civil liberties and such. government expanded. privacy removed. etc.


I have sure as shit forgotten.



fuck the DHS

fuck the TSA

fuck the NSA

fuck the democrats and the republicans for handing us this tyranny.
"You don't professionalize until  you federalize".  Tom Daschle

 





Link Posted: 9/11/2013 7:29:16 AM EDT
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Yes.
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 7:36:13 AM EDT
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I don't see how a terrorist attack could change us for the better, so..... ummm....yeah. It has.
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 7:36:46 AM EDT
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"You don't professionalize until  you federalize".  Tom Daschle  



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It seems we went into a rather rapid decline after 9/11

loss of civil liberties and such. government expanded. privacy removed. etc.

I have sure as shit forgotten.

fuck the DHS
fuck the TSA
fuck the NSA
fuck the democrats and the republicans for handing us this tyranny.
"You don't professionalize until  you federalize".  Tom Daschle  




STFU. I can't believe that's an actual quote from somebody.
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 7:39:14 AM EDT
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Our response to 9/11 was less than optimal to say the least.

In my opinion, we allowed ourselves to be successfully terrorized, the actions of the terrorists were permitted to have a significant impact on our politics, which is the goal of terrorists in the first place.

The nation collectively suffered from shock, or PTSD, and our politicians and media did everything in their power to prolong and capitalize on it.

That's been my take from the beginning, it has made a lot of people very angry when I've said so, but that's how I see it.
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 7:45:21 AM EDT
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IT'S W-O-R-S-E goddamnit! Changed for the worse, has gotten worse. Is this not bugging the hell out of anyone elst? Jesust Christ, you guys are the worse
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 7:45:32 AM EDT
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You bet your ass we did!
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 7:50:58 AM EDT
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OP is absolutely spot on.

We have grown government "protection" vastly in the years since 9-11-2001, and the cost for all those extra layers of "safety" has been liberty, and not just a little bit of it.  

The worst part of the deal is that, much like the expansion of the universe, it is not only expanding but accellerating.

9/11 pisses me off every year first because of the cowardly attack on our country, and second because of the cowardly response by our government.
Link Posted: 9/11/2013 8:52:38 AM EDT
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The Patriot Act and all the "Bush Conservatives" did far more to erode my freedoms than anyone up to this point so far. Fuck him and his Patriot Act.

ya ya, I'm a 13'er. I'm actually an '05'er or so but cant' remember my login info LOL.

It was sickening watching people jump behind some of the bullshit that was happening all because someone with an R behind their name said that "you're with us or against us!"
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