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http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo359/Gunny1812/ZAFALPara_zpsc316c6a2.jpg His FAL looks very appealing. The past few weeks, I've been thinking about buying an FAL Para, instead of a PTR 91. I'm leaning towards an 18in barrel. May have to settle for a DSA, as the original FNs are getting up there in price. Same here. I'm new to FAL's, can anyone clue me in to what style fal that is with the folder, shorter barrel, and top rail. I'm not an expert by any means. However, I *think* that's a "Para" model with a 436 mm (17.17 in) barrel. It looks pretty close to an FN FAL Model 50.63. Somebody with more knowledge please correct me if I'm in error here. Note the Type II receiver (Google it, and you can learn the difference between the Type I, II, and III which is what I had to do), and how it's cut for the carry handle forward of the ejection port, although in this case, it doesn't have the carry handle but a simple washer of some sort to fill the gap instead. For mounting the Aimpoint, the rifle wears a DSA Arms M1913 railed receiver cover that you can find here The handguards are standard, which makes the rifle sleek and ergonomic, but you can fit a railed handguard such as this if you wanted to take the concept of this handy rifle a little further. The rest of the rifle looks pretty stock, and frankly, very user friendly in the configuration pictured here. DSA offers Para models with both 16" and 18" barrels, but I haven't found anything with a 17.17 in barrel. Still, a DSA with 18 in barrel and standard handguards looks close enough to me
Like I said, I welcome anyone with more familiarity with metric FALs to please correct any misinformation I may have passed here. ETA: The rifle is also equipped with a grenade launcher site which is integral with the gas plug. It folds back along the top of the handguard behind the front sight when not in use. ETA2: Also just notices the rear sight isn't the standard Para model protected by the "ears" commonly found on Para FALs. I wonder if this was even a standard production model? Thanks for the info and time, I appreciate it. 
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Like I said, I welcome anyone with more familiarity with metric FALs to please correct any misinformation I may have passed here. ETA: The rifle is also equipped with a grenade launcher site which is integral with the gas plug. It folds back along the top of the handguard behind the front sight when not in use. ETA2: Also just notices the rear sight isn't the standard Para model protected by the "ears" commonly found on Para FALs. I wonder if this was even a standard production model? Thanks for the info and time, I appreciate it.
The fal is one rifle I never have got to yet but I've been interested. This thread may make me end up with one. I looked at a couple sites for info but got lost quickly and figured someone could point me in the right direction. No problem-just doing my part to spread the addiction 
My exposure is mostly with the commonwealth "inch" L1A1 SLR, which in my case is an Aussie clone built on an early Entreprise Arms Buena Park receiver. I have a UK kit going together in a few months on a Brit cut Coonan Arms receiver, God willing. That said, I've been interested in "metric" FALs for some time now. I prefer the metric versions over the commonwealth "inch" versions, and so did most of the world for that matter. I'm an M14 nut through and through and always will be, but the FAL has qualities and features that make it very attractive to me. Like the OP, the history of the weapon itself-especially as it was used in Africa-makes it almost irresistible. The FAL is a classic like no other. It's gratifying to know rifles from that era still soldier on after decades of use; suppressed L1A1 SLRs in Afghanistan during the early part of the war there with the NZ SAS, the M14 in Afghanistan and Iraq, the G3 as a DMR with the Bundeswehr in Afghanistan, and the iconic FAL still being carried into harms way and on the very soil where it earned its impressive reputation in combat while in service in that part of the world. I have to wonder how many civilians own R1s in South Africa now, or if they even can legally? |
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I'm an FAL fanboy isn't it obvious? Even if 308 was pushing close to a 1.00 a round I would still have one in my collection. You gotta remember I'm a history nut and this rifle has it in spades. And to answer a previous question the south African govt destroyed a bunch of them in the late 90s. They've contracted dsa to help replenish and upgrade what they have as the poachers they are coming up against are heavily armed and in their view the 556 doesn't do it. Also you gotta remember the R4 and R5 rifles have been used and abused over the years. That and a lot of South Africans just like the FN Interesting. I've heard the 7.62 NATO round was preferred during the Bush War. That's what I heard from a fellow that fought in the Rhodesian Army (edit-not the Galil part). To paraphrase, life in the bush was accompanied by interaction with wildlife, whether in the form of foraging for chow (meat), or defending oneself from things that bite. Also, they used cover shooting as a tactic and found the 7.62 NATO round penetrated cover better than the 7.62X39 and 5.56X45 ammo available back then (only the RhSAS ever used the 5.56, though, and only late in the war; they bought a quantity of M-16A1s). |
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I'm not an expert by any means. However, I *think* that's a "Para" model with a 436 mm (17.17 in) barrel. It looks pretty close to an FN FAL Model 50.63. Somebody with more knowledge please correct me if I'm in error here. Note the Type II receiver (Google it, and you can learn the difference between the Type I, II, and III which is what I had to do), and how it's cut for the carry handle forward of the ejection port, although in this case, it doesn't have the carry handle but a simple washer of some sort to fill the gap instead. For mounting the Aimpoint, the rifle wears a DSA Arms M1913 railed receiver cover that you can find here The handguards are standard, which makes the rifle sleek and ergonomic, but you can fit a railed handguard such as this if you wanted to take the concept of this handy rifle a little further. The rest of the rifle looks pretty stock, and frankly, very user friendly in the configuration pictured here. DSA offers Para models with both 16" and 18" barrels, but I haven't found anything with a 17.17 in barrel. Still, a DSA with 18 in barrel and standard handguards looks close enough to me
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Like I said, I welcome anyone with more familiarity with metric FALs to please correct any misinformation I may have passed here. ETA: The rifle is also equipped with a grenade launcher site which is integral with the gas plug. It folds back along the top of the handguard behind the front sight when not in use. ETA2: Also just notices the rear sight isn't the standard Para model protected by the "ears" commonly found on Para FALs. I wonder if this was even a standard production model? It might be a bit shorter than 17.17". I know a number of the police FALs had barrels somewhat in excess of 16". Could be a cut-down 21" barrel as many of the short rifles in SA service are. Looks like a non-bipod-cut barrel. What looks like a washer in the carry handle cut is probably the ring from a carry handle that has been cut off, like what was often done by the Rhodesians. The folding stock is a South African type. The folding-stock version of the R1 had a different style of buttstock. It had a cutaway on top to permit the use of the standard rear sight and the sling swivel was fitted towards the bottom rather than towards the top on the let hand side as on a standard Para. IIRC the butt pad was a bit different as well. For the rail, something like the Light Tactical Rail might be a bit nicer, as it is lighter in terms of weight, especially if you use an alloy top cover to fit with a rail. I also think it has better aesthetics. I'm not sure how good they are with some of the heavier optics out there, though, like the Elcan Spectre DR. |
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Notice that there is a cutaway on top and that the swivel is in the lower position compared to a standard Para. Also, I'm certain now that the barrel length on the FAL in question is under 17.17", after looking at pictures of the FN FAL 50.63. Definitely somewhere closer to 16". |
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Honestly, I never paid that much attention to FAL Paras, let alone knew the differences between a Belgium-made rifle, and an R1 / R2. At one point, I was asking myself if the R2-ish FAL in the pic was cobbled together from salvaged parts, or really made with that standard rear sight? Was the barrel cut down, or manufactured that way? Is the grenade launcher gas plug specific to the R2, or does one manufactured for the R1 fit both? Interesting stuff (to me, anyway). |
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The folding-butt rifles were all FN-contract rifles with the different sight, modified hinge block, and grenade sight being custom ordered features. If you notice in the picture, it is a Type I rifle (and the lowers, IIRC, are the "hiduminium" alloy). I think some of the later police purchases from FN included some folding-butt rifles or carbines including Type IIs. I suppose technically the folding-butt FALs are not R1s; I do not recall what differentiation, if any, existed between the FN-contract FALs and the SA ones (the latter were definitely designated R1). R2 is the designation for the G-3 rifles ordered from FMP (Portugal). The R3, IIRC (and I'm definitely not positive about this), is an R1 modified to semi-auto only (the selector is modified, I believe) for issue to the Kommando forces (sort of like a militia, although not the militia model used by the Boer republics, which also called their forces Kommandos). The FN FAL Para contract rifles were ordered, as I said, from FN before South Africa started domestic production of the FAL. The South Africans requested the use of the standard rear sight in the contract, which led to the other modifications on FN's part to allow the use of the standard rear sight, and like with their fixed-butt rifles, they also requested the grenade sights for use with the ENERGA rifle grenade (I believe the SA-made version is called the Zulu). There is no difference between the rifles with respect to the grenade sights; there is nothing about the two models requiring a difference. There is an earlier grenade sight that is longer that was on some early rifles for use with another type of rifle grenade. These pop up from time to time and I think some of the Rhodesian parts kits may have included them as well. I don't think any Paras were delivered with them. Ok, I was under the impression the R-2 was the Galils and the R-3 were the G-3 rifles I think I've heard it mentioned that the barrels were cut down to carbine length, but I'm not sure. It's possible that some of the later police contracts with FN were for shorter-barreled weapons and I've also heard that some of the R1s made for police use may have been made from the start with shorter barrels. I really don't know for sure as I've heard too much conflicting information about the shorter-barreled police rifles and can't recall seeing anything concrete. The police do seem to favour the short, approximately 16" barreled weapons with folding butts from photographs I've seen (and also on the SAP Special Task Force documentary). Quoted:
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Rhinos charge at everything. Those guys would get squashed along with the photographer.  Exactly was I was thinking when I first saw that pic. I suppose it's possible, though. You'd think if it was a "decoy", it would at least have a horn or two to look attractive to poachers. If that rhino's real, those rangers must have some sort of magical ability to hang with unpredictable wild animals without getting randomly killed. I am sure it is real 
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Rhinos charge at everything. Those guys would get squashed along with the photographer. Exactly was I was thinking when I first saw that pic. I suppose it's possible, though. You'd think if it was a "decoy", it would at least have a horn or two to look attractive to poachers. If that rhino's real, those rangers must have some sort of magical ability to hang with unpredictable wild animals without getting randomly killed. I am sure it is real http://soullift.me/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/AntiPoachingGuard.jpg http://soullift.me/warren-buffett-son-opens-wealth-to-africa-wildlife/ Dude looks nervous in that pic... |
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Rhinos charge at everything. Those guys would get squashed along with the photographer. Exactly was I was thinking when I first saw that pic. I suppose it's possible, though. You'd think if it was a "decoy", it would at least have a horn or two to look attractive to poachers. If that rhino's real, those rangers must have some sort of magical ability to hang with unpredictable wild animals without getting randomly killed. I am sure it is real http://soullift.me/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/AntiPoachingGuard.jpg http://soullift.me/warren-buffett-son-opens-wealth-to-africa-wildlife/ Dude looks nervous in that pic... Wow. Yea he does, and I don't blame him! |
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Someone from DSA on the Fal Files posted this about the Paras: The spec given for these rifles in brief is a type 2 forged receiver, 16 inch barrel, para folder with light weight lower and kal gard kg coatings over park. Calls for secret serial location and Lower, upper and barrel serialed. 700 units over 4 years with option to increase to 1000 units.
Word from the field is 2 poachers Kia in a contact using a new Dsa rhino rifles, the Rangers get trained by former special task force members, a friend of mine drew up this spec based on what he had in the police, I did the barrel shortening gas port tuning for him back then, guess he payed it forward. I can not disclose price but based on quanity it is well below retail, hidden serials are for theft and is a big problem. I have considered offering this spec with custom serial in US but been busy with some other cool projects. They did not consider any other system as most of Africa is full of Fals, they love them and just do not want change, cost is a huge factor. The color is used to identify rifles if stolen, I did not give them the green hand guard option but may send them in future So far this contract is all paras, Kenya buys the fixed stock 18 inch barrel. |
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They've been at that game in the sub-Saharan parks for a long time. I remember seeing a documentary on it in the 80s, they killed a couple of poachers in that. I think it might have been Kenya. The poachers were spotted by plane and their locations radioed to a ground crew. In that one the FALs were full length and had carry handles and bipods, which they used. |
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