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Link Posted: 8/10/2004 5:44:37 PM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
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Has anyone said IBLT!!



No, you can be the first.  What does it mean anyway?
Link Posted: 8/10/2004 5:47:17 PM EDT
[#2]
IBTL= In Before The Lock!
Link Posted: 8/10/2004 5:58:44 PM EDT
[#3]
  1. Mice are vermin
  2. Mice in a typical mouse trap "suffer"
  3. A prairie dog that doesn't quite get a direct hit can "suffer"
  4. If you know anything about herpetology, almost any lizard larger than a foot and most snakes eat live rodents.  Happens every day in households across America.
  5. Ever seen wolves take down a deer?  Think it "suffered"?
  6. I watched a 4-foot Asian water monitor swallow a live rat in one gulp and it never occured to me that the rat "suffered".  The lizard had to eat, and what it eats has to be alive.
  7. About the only conclusion I can come to is that the guy who made the video showed very poor taste in putting it on the Internet.
  8. About 75% of the Internet is stuff that I find in poor taste.  Your mileage may vary.  Don't like it, don't watch it.
Link Posted: 8/10/2004 6:08:19 PM EDT
[#4]
First off, why would anyone want to have piranhas for pets?
The only reason that I can think of is to show people how they feed.
Piranhas have no value as a pet. They are not 'pretty' like some fish, and they have no personality, like cats and dogs.

Do piranhas show affection like cats and dogs, and even some rodents? Nope.

Link Posted: 8/10/2004 6:15:18 PM EDT
[#5]
Link Posted: 8/10/2004 6:20:16 PM EDT
[#6]
Not the same.

Can you let your kid play with a piranha? Nope..

Can you shoot an AR in a Service Rifle Match? Yup.

Apples and oranges.
Link Posted: 8/10/2004 6:36:29 PM EDT
[#7]
IBTL
Link Posted: 8/10/2004 6:49:54 PM EDT
[#8]
I really don't understand why so many people are so wadded up about this.  They eat mice and other such things, and here was a film with horrible music showing that.  Watch it or don't.  Big f'in deal.
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 12:25:02 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I think you folks are missing the larger picture here.


We have several low post count posters who are arguing this issue for no apparent reason at all.


I smell .



Which  is more sad - the guys that post a lot to get a high post count, or those people who keep track of it in the first place.




Beats me. What am I at now? Two hundred something?  


What's really bad are the guys that have 'special' posts in honor of their 223, 556, 308, 762, 10000th, et al posts.


Personally, I just think it's unusual that a few absolutely unknown people with sub 50 post counts are jumping all over this issue like it actually means something and arguing it like they are.
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 12:28:18 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:


Personally, I just think it's unusual that a few absolutely unknown people with sub 50 post counts are jumping all over this issue like it actually means something and arguing it like they are.



LOOK WHOS TALKING YOU SMALL TIME 3 DIGIT POSTER!!!
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 12:29:07 AM EDT
[#11]
50 sub post counts?? this is true. however, i think a person with a 50 post count has just as much right to throw in their .02. most of the time the argument isnt the most legitament but you cant ruin the credibility of someones statement based on their post count alone.
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 12:31:21 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
...........................

Has anyone said IBLT!!




IBLT? What is that? Internet Bacon Lettuce Tomato?  
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 12:34:45 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:


Personally, I just think it's unusual that a few absolutely unknown people with sub 50 post counts are jumping all over this issue like it actually means something and arguing it like they are.



LOOK WHOS TALKING YOU SMALL TIME 3 DIGIT POSTER!!!




Doh! I'm busted! I'm such a malefactor!  
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 12:43:55 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
50 sub post counts?? this is true. however, i think a person with a 50 post count has just as much right to throw in their .02. most of the time the argument isnt the most legitament but you cant ruin the credibility of someones statement based on their post count alone.




Absolutely, and I'm not trying to ruin anyone's credibility. I just think it smells like a troll when:

A) an unknown person with a low post count posts something controversial
B) argument ensues
C) the original poster begins to argue the issue
D) several other unknown people with low post counts begin to argue the issue also


Whether we like it or not, post count is generally (not always, but generally) an indication of how much an individual contributes to the  discourse on this forum. Another indicator is how long the the person has been registered here. Just scrolling through the FIRST page I can count FIVE seperate people who have been registered less than 3 months and have post counts less than 75. These people are also the ones that have immediately decided to jump on the same bandwagon and defend the same position. That seems a little coordinated or coincidental to me.

Maybe I'm just silly, but that sort of thing makes a dim bulb flicker in my crusty brain.
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 12:48:08 AM EDT
[#15]
good point. i concur
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 12:59:22 AM EDT
[#16]
I'm just bringing my count up since I started this thread anyway
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 12:45:08 PM EDT
[#17]
anyone have a suggestion as to how and get this to play?

the site comes up and the music plays but no video????????
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 12:59:13 PM EDT
[#18]
so I read the post about the killers over the X-box deal, seen a lot of joking post about that topic, but you guys feel real sorry over a mouse being ate up! you guys need HELP!
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 1:19:25 PM EDT
[#19]
still Looking for help in getting the Video to play
I am only getting Audio????
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 1:26:06 PM EDT
[#20]
I know it's just a mouse but that's just friggin' wrong.
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 1:27:41 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
still Looking for help in getting the Video to play
I am only getting Audio????



Download the latest version of Quicktime.
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 1:29:34 PM EDT
[#22]
tagged
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 1:34:00 PM EDT
[#23]
Got it and its still not working
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 1:36:40 PM EDT
[#24]
I have no problem with the mouse getting eaten, the fish have to eat to.

What I do have an issue with is,

(1) no reason not to stun the mouse first,

(2) Absolutely NO REASON to film it so you can show your 'Cool' video to your friends, that is the 'sick' bit.

ANdy
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 1:37:50 PM EDT
[#25]
ok, my curiosity got the better one me...................
how would you "stun" the mouse?

Chris
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 1:39:33 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Got it and its still not working



Go to your Temporary Internet Files folder in your Explorer.

Find the QT file that is sitting thers cached.  Copy it to your desktop, and try to open it there.
If you have trouble finding the file, sort them by type, and find the unusually large QT file in the list.  It will be bigger than the typical file in the folder.

If using the latest version of QT won't help, then I have no idea.
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 1:41:21 PM EDT
[#27]
I kill hundreds of mice every week.    I don't enjoy doing it, but it does not bother me at all.  We will never have to worry about the species becoming extinct. Their gestation period is 21 days, and as soon as they give birth the female can become pregnant again.   The is something wrong with torturing the animals or causing unnecessary pain.  You are on the wrong website if you feel bad about killing animals.  
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 1:42:25 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
ok, my curiosity got the better one me...................
how would you "stun" the mouse?

Chris



I was just wondering the same thing. SOunds like that would be even more cruel..
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 1:43:29 PM EDT
[#29]
that was my thoughts too.

Chris
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 1:55:01 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
I have no problem with the mouse getting eaten, the fish have to eat to.

What I do have an issue with is,

(1) no reason not to stun the mouse first,



Perhaps the predator needs the prey to be moving, due to feeding instincts.



(2) Absolutely NO REASON to film it so you can show your 'Cool' video to your friends, that is the 'sick' bit.

ANdy



Part of the allure in keeping unusual and/or dangerous predators as pets is the exotic way that they eat.  I'm not going to piss in their cornflakes for filming it.  

Nobody cared when I filmed the instantaneous destruction of a hornets nest using Tannerite.  Everybody applauded when someone posted a picture of an Iraqi insurgent getting shot in the chest and head.  Everybody cheered when the Taliban hideout AC-130 gunship video came out.  People cheered when the "weapon swap" video in the iraqi field was posted.  Folks gaffed at an image that was supposedly a .50 BMG headshot to a Palistinian, and the typical response was "hey man, nice shot".

A mouse gets eaten by a few fish, and all of a sudden there is this terrific outpouring of how 'sick' this is, as if it was making them feel guilty.  Newsflash.  This isn't part of some porn flick or smash video.  People aren't jacking off to it (except one guy).  Nothing that wasn't intended to be food was killed in the making of the video.

Some guy is proud of his 'pets'.  Nothing wrong with that.  I see guys all the time here who take pride in their dogs, bragging about his bite strength or killing ability.  They all joke about what they do to cats and meter readers.  I just don't see too much of a difference.

Besides it was pretty educational.  I had never seen a pirhana eat before, and now I have.  I have seen snakes eat before, Dogs, horses, pelicans, lions, tigers, and walruses, and now I feel like I am a little better educated.
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 1:55:44 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
ok, my curiosity got the better one me...................
how would you "stun" the mouse?

Chris



Pick it up and smack its head across the edge of a table the same as many snake owners do so the rodent does not bit the snake.
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 1:57:54 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
ok, my curiosity got the better one me...................
how would you "stun" the mouse?

Chris



Pick it up and smack its head across the edge of a table the same as many snake owners do so the rodent does not bit the snake.



However the owner chooses to feed live mice to a pirhana is fine by me.
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 1:58:26 PM EDT
[#33]
so it'd feel it, just wouldn't be able to "swim"?

It may be just me, but that seems worse to me.

Chris
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 2:01:12 PM EDT
[#34]
i didnt get a hardon. let me check again...nope-soft as peanut butter.
i dont see any thing wrong with it though-other than the fact that i'll look before i sit on the pot in the morning. in case my weenie falls in.
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 2:01:42 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
I have no problem with the mouse getting eaten, the fish have to eat to.

What I do have an issue with is,
<edit>
(2) Absolutely NO REASON to film it so you can show your 'Cool' video to your friends, that is the 'sick' bit.



+1  It's not that "the poor widdle mouse was eaten up by the mean fishies", it's the Beavis & Butthead "I'm so cool because I have some bad ass fish....watch this"  taping & internet hosting of the mouse getting ripped to shreds.  
It would be totally different if it was some PBS/National Geographic "circle of life" nature show & the mouse had a chance to escape.  I'd be willing to bet the sick fvcks who taped this for their amusement pull the wings off of flies, burn ants using a magnifying glass & swerve their car to run over squirrels.  They'd probably film the mouse swimming in circles until it drowns from exhaustion if there were no piranha in the tank just for the giggle factor.
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 2:15:18 PM EDT
[#36]
swerve to run over a squirrel? no, might cause accident.
pull wings off flies? naa fingers too big.
watch mouse swim in circles till it dies of exhaustion? hell no. takes to long. could be watchin porn.
BUT WTF IS WRONG WITH BURNIN ANTS WITH A MAGNIFYING GLASS???
HELL, WHEN YOU GROW UP IN THE COUNTRY, THATS DAMN GOOD ENTERTAINMENT! SO NOW YOUR GONNA SAY ITS CRUEL TO THE ANTS RIGHT? THIS THREAD IS SHIT! WEAK!
it's the same reason i like carrying that heavy ass 7.62 M240B. Flying gore makes the killin worth while. face it if this disturbs you enough to drag it out this long, you've lost your primal instincts. g.d. sheep.
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 2:48:15 PM EDT
[#37]
They're rabbits 30CAL, just rabbit, scared, jittery, etc...but you know, i think Elmer Fudd said it best.
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 2:52:51 PM EDT
[#38]
PS   you think fryin ants with a magnifying glass is fun???   You ought to try beaten the shit outta them big red ones with a baseball bat.
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 3:00:05 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Eh.  It's just food.  Piranahs gotta eat too.  Snakes eat live mice too.  What's the big deal?



The big deal is we have a bunch of cityfied, sissyfied, PETA fucktards on this board who can't deal with the realities of survival.




+1
You forgot candy-assed.
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 3:04:37 PM EDT
[#40]
ITS A FUCKING MOUSE!!


THROW A CAT IN THE TANK FOR ALL I CARE

DAMN FISH GOTTA EAT TOO!!
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 3:30:01 PM EDT
[#41]
AK KID:
MEMBER WHEN WE USED TO FUZE ALL THE BLACK CATS TOGTHER IN THE RED ANT BEDS AND BUILD LITTLE HUTS OUTTA STICKS IN THERE AND THEN WHEN THE ANTS GOT ALL OVER EVER THING  WE'D POUR GAS ALL OVER THEM SUMMA BITCHES AND LIGHT EM  FUCKERS ON FIRE AND FLY THE MODEL AIR PLANES AROUND AND MAKE THE <BOOM BOOM RATATATATATATRAT> NOISE? WHILE WE PICKED OFF SURVIVORS WITH THE BB GUNS?gawd damn 2003 was a guuuud year.

Wait till i come home on leave in sept, we're gonna fuck up some hogs, me you tx red neck and big hat!! boy howdy
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 3:31:38 PM EDT
[#42]
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Link Posted: 8/11/2004 3:40:21 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Why are all of you upset about the video?  How is this any different from shooting prairie dogs?  Its just the food chain at work, it couldnt be any more natural than that.  Just think of all the people who feed live mice to their snakes!! Horrors!



I was just going to say that!!!!!!!!



+1  

Piranhas gotta eat, same as worms.

Link Posted: 8/11/2004 3:43:31 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
swerve to run over a squirrel? no, might cause accident.
pull wings off flies? naa fingers too big.
watch mouse swim in circles till it dies of exhaustion? hell no. takes to long. could be watchin porn.
BUT WTF IS WRONG WITH BURNIN ANTS WITH A MAGNIFYING GLASS???
HELL, WHEN YOU GROW UP IN THE COUNTRY, THATS DAMN GOOD ENTERTAINMENT! SO NOW YOUR GONNA SAY ITS CRUEL TO THE ANTS RIGHT? THIS THREAD IS SHIT! WEAK!
it's the same reason i like carrying that heavy ass 7.62 M240B. Flying gore makes the killin worth while. face it if this disturbs you enough to drag it out this long, you've lost your primal instincts. g.d. sheep.




Join PETA.  Do it for the ants.
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 3:50:25 PM EDT
[#45]
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 5:43:11 PM EDT
[#46]


I feel for the mouse and all animals, didn't watch the video though, and no I'm not a city dweller, just a merciful person who wouldn't want anything to happen to something else that I would want to happen to me or my loved ones.

As for natue and survival,

"I think what is bothersome is that someone gets enjoyment to torment this animal."

This is the big thing, some coward enjoys not only watching, but making this happen. The piranas sp? could have been fed without the pain and suffering, but this pile of shi! made isomething else endure that  for his fun, and people like this are the last people to be able to take what they dish out.
These cowards are commonly pussies who wet their beds and have to sleep with a light on.
This isn't nature or survival, it's simply a cruel and cowardly act.


Link Posted: 8/11/2004 5:44:07 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:
First off, why would anyone want to have piranhas for pets?


Cause they poop diamonds.  Don't you know anything?



addictive!
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 5:45:13 PM EDT
[#48]
It's just a damn mouse!

Circle of life!

Link Posted: 8/11/2004 5:49:24 PM EDT
[#49]
wow all this fuss over a mouse getting eaten
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 5:52:03 PM EDT
[#50]
"Everybody applauded when someone posted a picture of an Iraqi insurgent getting shot in the chest and head. Everybody cheered when the Taliban hideout AC-130 gunship video came out. People cheered when the "weapon swap" video in the iraqi field was posted. Folks gaffed at an image that was supposedly a .50 BMG headshot to a Palistinian, and the typical response was "hey man, nice shot"."

Where these people actively engaging the u.s. forces, where they threats to u.s. forces? Are these the people who behead captives without mercy? Are these the people who would fly planes into buildings. I think there's a difference when they go down.
Do you think anyone would applaud a video of a police officer being shot? Granted don't answer that, a few sickos might, but in the big scheme I think there's a big difference.
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