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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:17:33 AM EDT
[#1]
Nothing about this trial is legit in any sense.
It’s a witch hunt and they will do everything they can to throw him in jail. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:18:04 AM EDT
[#2]
The whole thing is a political hit.
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:20:09 AM EDT
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The democrat-communists have to get Trump out of the race, by any means necessary. And they know it. They are going to keep putting him on trial until they can make something, anything stick. If they have to try him every week from now until November, they will. They are desperate and it shows.
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:23:18 AM EDT
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The gag orders prove he cant.
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:23:50 AM EDT
[#5]
no
Look at his daughter. She is a Schumer acolyte and Trump called her out. No way the judge will forget about Trump saying that. Trump has a built in appeal. The more he complains about the daughter and judge, the more likely the judge will act personally. Boom! reversed on appeal. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:24:40 AM EDT
[#6]
This is the one where the star witnesses against Trump are a former porn star and a convicted perjurer?
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:25:36 AM EDT
[#7]
Trump's problem is the jury pool.
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:25:56 AM EDT
[#8]
Humans are inherently biased to everything in some degree. A POTUS doesn't pick judges for the SCOTUS because they oppose their own bias. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:26:59 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing about this trial is legit in any sense. It’s a witch hunt and they will do everything they can to throw him in jail. This. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:29:18 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: no Look at his daughter. She is a Schumer acolyte and Trump called her out. No way the judge will forget about Trump saying that. Trump has a built in appeal. The more he complains about the daughter and judge, the more likely the judge will act personally. Boom! reversed on appeal. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24528059-5423-judicial-ethics-opinion-trump-hush-money-case |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:29:51 AM EDT
[#11]
Trump out of the race solves a lot of problems for the communists. It makes sense they are trying everything they can think of to make that happen.
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:38:59 AM EDT
[#12]
They dont even care about the appearance of impartiality.
They are all actively seeking to stack the deck against all past ethical norms for their novel legal theory cases. With the motivation being politcal persecution and election interferrence. These people are the worst of the worst humans. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:42:42 AM EDT
[#13]
I kind of wish they would stop talking about donations to the Democrats it is $35 dollars.
There is so much real impropriety going on here that is a minor thing that sounds stupid when they say it. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:43:02 AM EDT
[#14]
In a few years, people will look back and wonder why we didn't stop this.
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:47:26 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump's problem is the jury pool. Yes.
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:47:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump's problem is the jury pool. This |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:48:50 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I kind of wish they would stop talking about donations to the Democrats it is $35 dollars. There is so much real impropriety going on here that is a minor thing that sounds stupid when they say it. It shouldn't matter if it was $5 or $5,000. He donated money to a group that actually has Donald Trump's name in their mission statement, and opposing him as their main goal. How in the everloving fuck could he ever be impartial? |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:49:49 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes.
Trumps lawyers can strike him if they choose to do so. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:51:26 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing about this trial is legit in any sense. It’s a witch hunt and they will do everything they can to throw him in jail. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:51:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump's problem is the jury pool. If he's convicted maybe he could get The Innocence Project to look into his case. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:53:07 AM EDT
[#21]
Not even.
Third world political trial |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:54:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:00:52 AM EDT
[#23]
As a result of Trump’s penchant for attention whoring divisiveness, I suspect very few people who can see or hear could be found in the entire nation who are impartial where he is concerned. Victor Davis Hanson is the only one I can think of offhand.
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:06:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It shouldn't matter if it was $5 or $5,000. He donated money to a group that actually has Donald Trump's name in their mission statement, and opposing him as their main goal. How in the everloving fuck could he ever be impartial? First of all every judge has a political preference so to say that they can't be impartial because they do is ridiculous. Based on your assertion a judge could never be impartial to a politician of the opposite party. Again that is ridiculous. My point was this is a stupid and minor thing. There are way more glaring issues for why he should recuse himself most particularly his daughter. He has also demonstrated that he can not be impartial through his decisions and handling of the case this far. They know they are going to lose on appeal but they don't care the object is to tie Trump up so he cant campaign because they know Joe can't campaign either. They also want to be able to call him a convicted felon even if it doesn't stick long term. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:12:13 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryThat’s BS! Is that a state court? |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:13:56 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trumps lawyers can strike him if they choose to do so. Can they strike 90% of the pool? |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:19:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: no Look at his daughter. She is a Schumer acolyte and Trump called her out. No way the judge will forget about Trump saying that. Trump has a built in appeal. The more he complains about the daughter and judge, the more likely the judge will act personally. Boom! reversed on appeal. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24528059-5423-judicial-ethics-opinion-trump-hush-money-case E) Disqualification. (1) A judge shall disqualify himself or herself in a proceeding in which the judge's impartiality might reasonably be questioned, including but not limited to instances where: (a) (i) the judge has a personal bias or prejudice concerning a party or (ii) the judge has personal knowledge of disputed evidentiary facts concerning the proceeding; (b) the judge knows that (i) the judge served as a lawyer in the matter in controversy, or (ii) a lawyer with whom the judge previously practiced law served during such association as a lawyer concerning the matter, or (iii) the judge has been a material witness concerning it; (c) the judge knows that he or she, individually or as a fiduciary, or the judge's spouse or minor child residing in the judge's household has an economic interest in the subject matter in controversy or in a party to the proceeding or has any other interest that could be substantially affected by the proceeding; (d) the judge knows that the judge or the judge's spouse, or a person known by the judge to be within the sixth degree of relationship to either of them, or the spouse of such a person: |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:23:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First of all every judge has a political preference so to say that they can't be impartial because they do is ridiculous. Based on your assertion a judge could never be impartial to a politician of the opposite party. Again that is ridiculous. My point was this is a stupid and minor thing. There are way more glaring issues for why he should recuse himself most particularly his daughter. He has also demonstrated that he can not be impartial through his decisions and handling of the case this far. They know they are going to lose on appeal but they don't care the object is to tie Trump up so he cant campaign because they know Joe can't campaign either. They also want to be able to call him a convicted felon even if it doesn't stick long term. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It shouldn't matter if it was $5 or $5,000. He donated money to a group that actually has Donald Trump's name in their mission statement, and opposing him as their main goal. How in the everloving fuck could he ever be impartial? First of all every judge has a political preference so to say that they can't be impartial because they do is ridiculous. Based on your assertion a judge could never be impartial to a politician of the opposite party. Again that is ridiculous. My point was this is a stupid and minor thing. There are way more glaring issues for why he should recuse himself most particularly his daughter. He has also demonstrated that he can not be impartial through his decisions and handling of the case this far. They know they are going to lose on appeal but they don't care the object is to tie Trump up so he cant campaign because they know Joe can't campaign either. They also want to be able to call him a convicted felon even if it doesn't stick long term. You've got it just backwards. His daughter's conduct is irrelevant. My kids have different political views than I have. And if he had simply given a check to the Democrat party, with no specific earmarks, then sure. I'd agree that it doesn't mean that he can't judge things fairly. But he donated directly to an anti-Trump political action committee. That donation, no matter how minuscule, explicitly for the cause of eliminating Trump's "radical right wing legacy" (whatever that means) demonstrates a clear bias. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:31:59 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can they strike 90% of the pool? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Trumps lawyers can strike him if they choose to do so. Can they strike 90% of the pool? No and he knows that... |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:34:43 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You've got it just backwards. His daughter's conduct is irrelevant. My kids have different political views than I have. And if he had simply given a check to the Democrat party, with no specific earmarks, then sure. I'd agree that it doesn't mean that he can't judge things fairly. But he donated directly to an anti-Trump political action committee. That donation, no matter how minuscule, explicitly for the cause of eliminating Trump's "radical right wing legacy" (whatever that means) demonstrates a clear bias. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:34:56 AM EDT
[#31]
It's a Kangaroo Court. And, you think the Democrats are going to let an impartial judge run it?
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:35:24 AM EDT
[#32]
It is already biased. When selecting jurors they cut out all Trump supporters. That in itself indicates a bias against him.
It is political persecution. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:37:27 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wrong. See my previous post. Why did (d) get chopped off? What does the rest of it say? |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:47:41 AM EDT
[#34]
No, this is part of the DNC election strategy to legally interfere in an election . Anarcho Tyranny .
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:51:57 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, this is part of the DNC election strategy to legally interfere in an election . Anarcho Tyranny . Not really a strategy when the opportunity is handed to you. It's pretty simple ............ don't do shit that draws the attention of the justice system. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:54:10 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not really a strategy when the opportunity is handed to you. It's pretty simple ............ don't do shit that draws the attention of the justice system. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No, this is part of the DNC election strategy to legally interfere in an election . Anarcho Tyranny . Not really a strategy when the opportunity is handed to you. It's pretty simple ............ don't do shit that draws the attention of the justice system.  
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:56:06 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not really a strategy when the opportunity is handed to you. It's pretty simple ............ don't do shit that draws the attention of the justice system. How dare he get elected president coming from outside of the approved pool. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:56:29 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not really a strategy when the opportunity is handed to you. It's pretty simple ............ don't do shit that draws the attention of the justice system. Pick up that can. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:58:12 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can they strike 90% of the pool? Nope. But if that one guy you focus your post on is enough of a problem, they can strike him. It’s the way it works. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 8:58:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:01:22 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. But if that one guy you focus your post on is enough of a problem, they can strike him. It’s the way it works. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can they strike 90% of the pool? Nope. But if that one guy you focus your post on is enough of a problem, they can strike him. It’s the way it works. Not if the judge and prosecution disagree... |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:04:11 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It is already biased. When selecting jurors they cut out all Trump supporters. That in itself indicates a bias against him. It is political persecution. Most of the jurors were honest and truthful about their bias, Trump supporters and Republicans tend to be more honest and spoke up when asked whether they could be fair. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:07:33 AM EDT
[#43]
I dont see how this trial could be possible what so ever unless you find a group of people who have lived off grid for a decade.
The reason is the media has talked about him so much over the past 10 years I doubt there is a person in America, maybe the world, who has not heard of it and already formed an opinion. that potential juror that posted "lock him up" on social media but then stated they could be impartial should be thrown in prison. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:07:52 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not if the judge and prosecution disagree... What? You are telling me the defense is not getting strikes and back strikes? Fucking bullshit. That’s not how it works. You need to go sit through a jury trial. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:08:06 AM EDT
[#45]
I'm finding it harder and harder to feel bad for people that choose to locate in leftist population centers or do business with them. I think Trump smelled his own farts too much and actually believed his hubris about being able to commit crimes in NYC and get away with it.
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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:11:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What? You are telling me the defense is not getting strikes and back strikes? Fucking bullshit. That’s not how it works. You need to go sit through a jury trial. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not if the judge and prosecution disagree... What? You are telling me the defense is not getting strikes and back strikes? Fucking bullshit. That’s not how it works. You need to go sit through a jury trial. In this particular case, the defense tried to strike one juror because of certain celebratory posts on her social media from when Trump lost in 2020. The judge overruled the defense saying that in his opinion, she could still be impartial. I know that's not how it's supposed to work. I'm just sayin'. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:12:35 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm finding it harder and harder to feel bad for people that choose to locate in leftist population centers or do business with them. I think Trump smelled his own farts too much and actually believed his hubris about being able to commit crimes in NYC and get away with it. Trump did and thought being president would grant him full immunity from anything and everything. He’s learning that it does not work that way. If he would have just played ball. They probably would have afforded him immunity. But he was an asshole. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:14:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In this particular case, the defense tried to strike one juror because of certain celebratory posts on her social media from when Trump lost in 2020. The judge overruled the defense saying that in his opinion, she could still be impartial. I know that's not how it's supposed to work. I'm just sayin'. Was that juror challenged for cause? I know in my state both prosecution and defense get 12 strikes for a 12 person jury. They don’t even have to state a reason. Just we stike Mr. Smith and they are struck. Edit to add. To strike a juror for cause then. Yes. They go to the bench and argue the reason to the judge. The judge can strike or not. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:14:29 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not really a strategy when the opportunity is handed to you. It's pretty simple ............ don't do shit that draws the attention of the justice system. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No, this is part of the DNC election strategy to legally interfere in an election . Anarcho Tyranny . Not really a strategy when the opportunity is handed to you. It's pretty simple ............ don't do shit that draws the attention of the justice system. And tyranny wins |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:16:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was that juror challenged for cause? I know in my state both prosecution and defense get 12 strikes for a 12 person jury. They don’t even have to state a reason. Just we stike Mr. Smith and they are struck Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In this particular case, the defense tried to strike one juror because of certain celebratory posts on her social media from when Trump lost in 2020. The judge overruled the defense saying that in his opinion, she could still be impartial. I know that's not how it's supposed to work. I'm just sayin'. Was that juror challenged for cause? I know in my state both prosecution and defense get 12 strikes for a 12 person jury. They don’t even have to state a reason. Just we stike Mr. Smith and they are struck It seems that this case is being run by _D_ifferent rules. |
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