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12/1/2016 12:16:09 PM EDT
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Let's see the creators of the site wanted to change it...

It's their site

Go with the flow man...learn something new....good for the brain...a little exercise now and again....won't kill you...
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This site is also a business, and the customer is ALWAYS right.
12/1/2016 12:16:11 PM EDT
[#2]
This is so much better than the old site
12/1/2016 12:16:37 PM EDT
[#3]
5,000 people currently on line and 300 ish are too stupid to figure it out?

Seems like an acceptable ratio.
12/1/2016 12:17:35 PM EDT
[#4]
No. This response seems the norm on every forum I've ever been a part of. People freak out. Gotta learn to live with it.
12/1/2016 12:18:14 PM EDT
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The customer is always right is such a flawed statement.
12/1/2016 12:20:41 PM EDT
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It's like Obama care at this point. It sucks and everyone knows it sucks but there's too much work put into it for them to scrap it. 
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And about as useful.
12/1/2016 12:21:34 PM EDT
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Their site, their rules.  Not sure all of the ramifications of photo hosting, but looks like that was the lead issue here.  (how long will photos be available, will photos become property of the forum and non-deletable.  It is nice to sever the cord from photo bucket without going to a platinum membership.  Not sure how the new photo size will effect downloads in margin cell areas. 
12/1/2016 12:22:03 PM EDT
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No, fix the new format.  It's just all big and goofy.  It will be sweet once they unmickey it.
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Shouldn't that have been done BEFORE it went live?
12/1/2016 12:23:13 PM EDT
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The customer is always right is such a flawed statement.
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And why is that?
12/1/2016 12:23:56 PM EDT
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This "improvement" sucks donkey balls.  Glad I didn't renew.  Paying for this eye sore?  WTF?
12/1/2016 12:26:11 PM EDT
[#11]
If you bring back optional old format then name it the "safe space" format.
This one is way easier to read on my phone.
12/1/2016 12:26:21 PM EDT
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Shouldn't that have been done BEFORE it went live?
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Apparently the beta test was a joke. I'd be embarrassed to release a product this badly done after I had it in beta testing that long. 
12/1/2016 12:26:39 PM EDT
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Can we at least fix the tiny font and eliminate the huge wasteful blocks of space?

I am sorry, but this new site is a nightmare on my PC and phone.
12/1/2016 12:29:00 PM EDT
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Shouldn't that have been done BEFORE it went live?
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The norm is to use a testing environment that mirrors the production site.  Not a surprise the poll shows 65% dislike the new site.   It is slower, less info is captured, and it takes more button presses to get to most of the features.  Old format was more modern.
12/1/2016 12:29:30 PM EDT
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The old format is better.
12/1/2016 12:31:15 PM EDT
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Infinitely better. I feel like I'm having a stroke when using the new format.
12/1/2016 12:33:16 PM EDT
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As I have stated in other threads a pull down menu on the bottom of the screen allowing the user to select the format of their choice would make the site user friendly for everyone. XDAdevelopers forum has this and it works beautifully.
12/1/2016 12:33:45 PM EDT
[#18]
I have gotten pretty used to the new format in the five minutes I have used it. Its really not that bad.
12/1/2016 12:34:59 PM EDT
[#19]
Just when things were looking up at the end of 2016, wake up to this.
12/1/2016 12:35:47 PM EDT
[#20]
Yes, I'm not diggin' this new format. It looks like a damned mobile site whether I switch to desktop or not. I hate mobile sites.
12/1/2016 12:35:48 PM EDT
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How about fuck yes.
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FPFTW

At least the first post being the correct answer is still working.
12/1/2016 12:37:44 PM EDT
[#22]
Meh, you guys whine about everything
12/1/2016 12:40:54 PM EDT
[#23]
Yeah, they ain't going back. Websites and operating systems are now engineered for mobile devices to automatically adjust for the size of the screen you are viewing on plus whatever other features they need to account for.

And yes it sucks. It'll be something we get used to...


Don't like the fewer number of Newest Topics that appear.
12/1/2016 12:46:08 PM EDT
[#24]
Maybe the site would be better if I used the mobile site but I use a desktop and everything just flat out looks stupid. Now the site is slower to load and slower to navigate.  I'd much prefer the old forum bar across the top to quickly jump around the site I'm not a fan of the pulldown menus. 
12/1/2016 12:46:28 PM EDT
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Yeah, they ain't going back. Websites and operating systems are now engineered for mobile devices to automatically adjust for the size of the screen you are viewing on plus whatever other features they need to account for.

And yes it sucks. It'll be something we get used to...


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It isn't automatically adjusting for me on my Android S6.  It doesn't even allow you to scroll sideways to view the info on the right side of the screen without turning my phone sideways.  So much fail development wise.
12/1/2016 12:46:34 PM EDT
[#26]
How do you add a poll?
12/1/2016 12:47:42 PM EDT
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same as before. You create a new topic then click edit and there's an option for a poll in the upper right. 
12/1/2016 12:49:49 PM EDT
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same as before. You create a new topic then click edit and there's an option for a poll in the upper right. 
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I don't have that option in the upper right
12/1/2016 12:50:03 PM EDT
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Maybe the site would be better if I used the mobile site but I use a desktop and everything just flat out looks stupid. Now the site is slower to load and slower to navigate.  I'd much prefer the old forum bar across the top to quickly jump around the site I'm not a fan of the pulldown menus. 
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It's super slow for me. In fact I spent about 1/2 hour going through my browser settings thinking maybe I've got some rogue plugins or weird scripts running.... nope... it's just this new code.
12/1/2016 12:50:20 PM EDT
[#30]
15.6" laptop at 1366x768 resolution. The poll took up 80% of my screen. The avatars/usernames on the left column take up over 20% of the screen. There's a whole load of dead space. Only one post fits on the screen. I don't see the instant linking to Twitter or Amazon being all that useful. And it's slow.

I don't see what's better about it. Maybe I need to get an iPad or a desktop with a 30" monitor to appreciate it.
12/1/2016 12:51:09 PM EDT
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Goatboy said that's not happening. And I'd doubt they'd show weakness and go back on that

But the changes need some changes.
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The changes, from what I'm seeing, need a lot of changes.
12/1/2016 12:52:31 PM EDT
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I don't have that option in the upper right
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Did you start your own thread?
12/1/2016 12:53:29 PM EDT
[#33]
No.
12/1/2016 12:56:32 PM EDT
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I don't have that option in the upper right

Did you start your own thread?


Yes
12/1/2016 12:58:18 PM EDT
[#35]
This format is way too bulky, I bet it looks okay on a phone though.
12/1/2016 1:02:22 PM EDT
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It should be high up in the right corner. Mobile or desktop? 
12/1/2016 1:04:58 PM EDT
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It should be high up in the right corner. Mobile or desktop? 
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It should be high up in the right corner. Mobile or desktop? 


Desktop
12/1/2016 1:05:21 PM EDT
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Goatboy said that's not happening. And I'd doubt they'd show weakness and go back on that

But the changes need some changes.
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Yeah, they said that about the EE too.
12/1/2016 1:06:27 PM EDT
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I have no idea man. It was right there for me when I started this thread. But the way the new site works for desktops who the fuck knows? 
12/1/2016 1:08:44 PM EDT
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I have no idea man. It was right there for me when I started this thread. But the way the new site works for desktops who the fuck knows? 
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I have no idea man. It was right there for me when I started this thread. But the way the new site works for desktops who the fuck knows? 


Alright, just wanted to make sure I wasnt missing it
12/1/2016 1:08:58 PM EDT
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This is so much better than the old site
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Really? Cause I have a 1600x900 screen and this is what I see:



Giant safe spaces, and tiny font.
12/1/2016 1:15:43 PM EDT
[#42]
I don't care. The new one could be pretty awesome if they clean it up a bit.

Post content should begin at the top of the user's segment, like at the same level as their avatar, not after a yuge white space. Scale some other things down. For example, "Post Editor" up top as I type this does not need to be in such a massive font, or even there at all really.
12/1/2016 1:19:15 PM EDT
[#43]
I voted NO and here's why.

I so some development when I'm not doing networking stuff and have found over the years that the only true path is forward.  It sounds cruel and indifferent but sometimes you have to drag the users along kicking and screaming.

People do NOT like change even if 87% of the change is positive.  They will always dwell on the 13% they don't like.  Developers know this.

I have already found lots of new things I like about the new site in the past 30 minutes of using it.  I have found some things I don't like (the drop down menu system).  Overall the changes are tipping towards the positive for me.

Remember, developers like constructive criticism and actionable data.  Just saying "This all sucks donkey dick" doesn't give them direction for improvement.


So for my constructive criticism:

I like the new default font.  It works well on a 28" 4K monitor with the browser set at 100% instead of 125 or 150 to make it legible.

I stay within a very small subset of forums.  Like 4-5 generally.  How about an option to mark a forum as favorite (and this feature may already exist and I haven't found it yet) and have that as a separate pull down perhaps colored red or similar bright color.  For instance, have a drop down that would show the options GD, TEAM, HAM RADIO, SURVIVAL, GLOCK so I can cut out clicks and not have to hover the dropdown, click OUTDOOR, then click HAM RADIO.  It would be hover the new favorites dropdown, click HAM RADIO.

Don;t get me wrong, the new drop down system is perfectly usable once I get used to it.  I just like 99.87% efficiency.

Now off to see if something like this already exists.
12/1/2016 1:19:38 PM EDT
[#44]
Which old format?
12/1/2016 1:20:45 PM EDT
[#45]
This format has the aids.  Good time to log out and take a break.
12/1/2016 1:22:02 PM EDT
[#46]
You people should do a Stein style recount.

My only objection is that it's a tad slower.
12/1/2016 1:22:31 PM EDT
[#47]
I like the "new" ARFCOM.............keep it!!
12/1/2016 1:22:41 PM EDT
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12/1/2016 1:23:21 PM EDT
[#49]
New site sucks. Constantly crashes my browser tab when typing out posts.
12/1/2016 1:25:23 PM EDT
[#50]
Not a fan, I hope the debugging happens super fast

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