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12/1/2016 1:29:05 PM EDT
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This site is also a business, and the customer is ALWAYS right.
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Let's see the creators of the site wanted to change it...

It's their site

Go with the flow man...learn something new....good for the brain...a little exercise now and again....won't kill you...


This site is also a business, and the customer is ALWAYS right.



lol no
12/1/2016 1:30:48 PM EDT
[#2]
I hope they do. I absolutely hate this one.
12/1/2016 1:31:09 PM EDT
[#3]
If you get rid of the damn drop down menus, I'll give the other changes a chance. Those are unacceptable.
12/1/2016 1:36:28 PM EDT
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This.  I can sit on the other side of the room and still read the text on my monitor.  
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The old was much easier for me to read, and fit more info on a screen.   I don't know whey they wan't so much blank space.
I also don't know why the new font sucks.

OLD:
http://i.imgur.com/209HFIp.jpg
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http://i.imgur.com/qIW3ujU.png

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This.  I can sit on the other side of the room and still read the text on my monitor.  

So true!  
12/1/2016 1:54:55 PM EDT
[#5]
I wont be a paying member with this clown show and the time and money  wasted to ruin what as perfect........
12/1/2016 2:34:11 PM EDT
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12/1/2016 2:45:46 PM EDT
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Maybe the site would be better if I used the mobile site but I use a desktop and everything just flat out looks stupid. Now the site is slower to load and slower to navigate.  I'd much prefer the old forum bar across the top to quickly jump around the site I'm not a fan of the pulldown menus. 
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It doesn't matter, both the mobile and desktop look damn near identical.
12/1/2016 2:47:54 PM EDT
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lol no
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Let's see the creators of the site wanted to change it...

It's their site

Go with the flow man...learn something new....good for the brain...a little exercise now and again....won't kill you...


This site is also a business, and the customer is ALWAYS right.



lol no



LOl at you, look at the polls, people don't like it, it needs fixing, without fixing, arf will loose plenty of $24 memberships I'm sure.
12/1/2016 2:48:57 PM EDT
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LOl at you, look at the polls, people don't like it, it needs fixing, without fixing, arf will loose plenty of $24 memberships I'm sure.
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I'd look at the poll but it's only visible on page 1...
12/1/2016 4:04:20 PM EDT
[#10]
57% still think the new layout sucks. 
12/1/2016 4:21:04 PM EDT
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Should they bring back the old format?

I think the site looks good on mobile devices but it's super slow and loaded down with to much shit. 

Drop down menus make it much slower to navigate. 

Site just looks like shit on desktop. Cartoonish with bad fonts and huge empty spaces. 


There's so many annoying little things that I can't believe this was beta tested. 
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100% agree. Site loads so damn slow it reminds me of 14.4 dial-up.


12/1/2016 4:25:07 PM EDT
[#12]
The poll results look like the Dutch flag over a small lawn.

12/1/2016 4:26:31 PM EDT
[#13]
This new format looks fucking terrible on PC. How did this get past QC?
12/1/2016 4:27:18 PM EDT
[#14]
No.  This is "Progress" boys!

You don't get a choice!!





Just give it a minute and it will  grow on you.


Okay, maybe another minute.   

12/1/2016 4:30:42 PM EDT
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This new format looks fucking terrible on PC. How did this get past QC?
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+1

Total dog shit.
12/1/2016 4:35:50 PM EDT
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This is terrible. I thought there was something wrong with my computer
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ditto
12/1/2016 4:35:58 PM EDT
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12/1/2016 4:48:31 PM EDT
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I voted NO and here's why.

I so some development when I'm not doing networking stuff and have found over the years that the only true path is forward.  It sounds cruel and indifferent but sometimes you have to drag the users along kicking and screaming.

People do NOT like change even if 87% of the change is positive.  They will always dwell on the 13% they don't like.  Developers know this.

I have already found lots of new things I like about the new site in the past 30 minutes of using it.  I have found some things I don't like (the drop down menu system).  Overall the changes are tipping towards the positive for me.

Remember, developers like constructive criticism and actionable data.  Just saying "This all sucks donkey dick" doesn't give them direction for improvement.


So for my constructive criticism:

I like the new default font.  It works well on a 28" 4K monitor with the browser set at 100% instead of 125 or 150 to make it legible.

I stay within a very small subset of forums.  Like 4-5 generally.  How about an option to mark a forum as favorite (and this feature may already exist and I haven't found it yet) and have that as a separate pull down perhaps colored red or similar bright color.  For instance, have a drop down that would show the options GD, TEAM, HAM RADIO, SURVIVAL, GLOCK so I can cut out clicks and not have to hover the dropdown, click OUTDOOR, then click HAM RADIO.  It would be hover the new favorites dropdown, click HAM RADIO.

Don;t get me wrong, the new drop down system is perfectly usable once I get used to it.  I just like 99.87% efficiency.

Now off to see if something like this already exists.
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Isn't that what the "My Board" feature is for? Seems to have persisted with the change.

So far the positives I see are the selective quote viewing and posting feature (hopefully this means that the five quote limit is finally gone), the button to go back to the top, and the ability to directly upload pics. It also works better on my Blackberry than the old site. I also like how polls display, but don't care for them being on the first page only.

Everything else about it sucks so far. The old site seems to be superior in most respects.
12/1/2016 4:55:20 PM EDT
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I voted NO and here's why.

I so some development when I'm not doing networking stuff and have found over the years that the only true path is forward.  It sounds cruel and indifferent but sometimes you have to drag the users along kicking and screaming.

People do NOT like change even if 87% of the change is positive.  They will always dwell on the 13% they don't like.  Developers know this.

I have already found lots of new things I like about the new site in the past 30 minutes of using it.  I have found some things I don't like (the drop down menu system).  Overall the changes are tipping towards the positive for me.

Remember, developers like constructive criticism and actionable data.  Just saying "This all sucks donkey dick" doesn't give them direction for improvement.


So for my constructive criticism:

I like the new default font.  It works well on a 28" 4K monitor with the browser set at 100% instead of 125 or 150 to make it legible.

I stay within a very small subset of forums.  Like 4-5 generally.  How about an option to mark a forum as favorite (and this feature may already exist and I haven't found it yet) and have that as a separate pull down perhaps colored red or similar bright color.  For instance, have a drop down that would show the options GD, TEAM, HAM RADIO, SURVIVAL, GLOCK so I can cut out clicks and not have to hover the dropdown, click OUTDOOR, then click HAM RADIO.  It would be hover the new favorites dropdown, click HAM RADIO.

Don;t get me wrong, the new drop down system is perfectly usable once I get used to it.  I just like 99.87% efficiency.

Now off to see if something like this already exists.
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I'm also a developer, and this was a really, really bad deployment. The site is nearly unusable for me on mobile and frankly ugly and awkward on anything else.

You don't go making huge sweeping changes to a product with thousands of concurrent users - you make iterative changes.
12/1/2016 5:03:53 PM EDT
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WTF is going on with this guys pecs, does he have back boobs?
12/1/2016 5:09:28 PM EDT
[#21]
Nothing but a bunch of Luddites in here.
12/1/2016 5:09:31 PM EDT
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I wont be a paying member with this clown show and the time and money  wasted to ruin what as perfect........
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So....the anti-13er code in the new site....is actually working!?    
12/1/2016 5:56:56 PM EDT
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I'm also a developer, and this was a really, really bad deployment. The site is nearly unusable for me on mobile and frankly ugly and awkward on anything else.

You don't go making huge sweeping changes to a product with thousands of concurrent users - you make iterative changes.
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What he said. Holy shit the site is laggy. Add that to the 100 other issues with the new roll out. 

I think the Obamacare website was developed and implemented better. 
12/1/2016 6:02:07 PM EDT
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WTF is going on with this guys pecs, does he have back boobs?
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WTF is going on with this guys pecs, does he have back boobs?


It's all natural
12/1/2016 6:03:53 PM EDT
[#25]
Romney in a landslide...
12/1/2016 6:13:44 PM EDT
[#26]
It's the first day.
Give it a chance and plus the time will give them a chance to work out any bugs.
12/1/2016 6:21:03 PM EDT
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It's the first day.
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Bugs should have been worked out in the Beta... That's what they are for. Releasing this "upgrade" before it was ready was a horrible idea. Someone seriously fucked up. 
12/1/2016 6:27:17 PM EDT
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It's the first day.
Give it a chance and plus the time will give them a chance to work out any bugs.
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Sounds exactly like Obama's defense of Obamacare. lol
12/1/2016 6:28:11 PM EDT
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if you approved of this botched abortion of a site "upgrade" you deserve to be banned. 
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Botched is subjective.

I like it better.  Lots better.  MAGA better.

The old site was good in the 90s.
12/1/2016 6:29:06 PM EDT
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No - screw it...embrace the suck, I mean change.  I've been on a few time already and I'm used to it.  I really can't remember what the old site looked like anymore.  Move on boys & girls - Trump is picking Mattis for SECDEF...let's start talking Supreme Court.
12/1/2016 6:30:09 PM EDT
[#31]
The more I use it, the more I hate it.
12/1/2016 6:30:30 PM EDT
[#32]
I'm partly regretting my membership upgrade at the moment.
12/1/2016 6:31:05 PM EDT
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has there been a reason for the change put forth?

nothing is as irritating as web designers changing things up "just because".

This is the worst design I've seen in a forum for awhile.  It's like something out of the internet dark ages.
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mobile ad money is my guess.
12/1/2016 6:31:14 PM EDT
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Drop down menu sucks balls.

Size of the posts is way to yuuge,hurts my eyes
12/1/2016 6:34:55 PM EDT
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Botched is subjective.

I like it better.  Lots better.  MAGA better.

The old site was good in the 90s.
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QFT. It's the best update I have seen yet to Arf. Fuck the naysayers.
12/1/2016 6:36:34 PM EDT
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In a few days you'll forget all about the "old site."

Though, I wish I could still post pics in the message system.  I always liked sending people a pic of their package with the postage label and tracking number on it...
12/1/2016 6:36:41 PM EDT
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Idk what kinda changes they made under the hood to this site but it has royally jacked up browsing it on my phone. I used to be able to browse arf for days without any impact on my phone's battery. All of a sudden my phone is acting like a note 7 and burning up and my battery is immediately taking a hit. I turn off everything but the browser on Android and I see my cpu going nuts when I go to arf mobile. Even tried using opera mini to limit data and it still sends cpu to percentages I rarely see unless I run a game.

Eta. I am literally charging my phone at 5 pm which I have never had to do and all that has changed today is arf's new mobile layout. Which isn't really all that bad to me besides the tiny font, just wish whatever was running on this site would not kill my battery.
12/1/2016 6:36:58 PM EDT
[#38]
I've been on the forum for a few years.  This upgrade has me totally confused.  User friendly, it is not.  I hate the new EE drop down.
12/1/2016 6:38:05 PM EDT
[#39]
Yes in a heartbeat
12/1/2016 6:38:10 PM EDT
[#40]
New site format is terrible.  Would greatly prefer an option to go back.

That said....I have been using the ARL site mirror with an element blocker most of the day to get rid of the embedded pictures and am actually pretty happy with the outcome.

Unless the option changes to bring back the old board I will just use the ARL or JRS mirror site with an element blocker from here on out.
12/1/2016 6:41:08 PM EDT
[#41]
Trumps fault
12/1/2016 6:43:35 PM EDT
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I hope they do as well. This new color scheme is just damn hard to read and I've got 20/20 vision. ??
12/1/2016 6:46:13 PM EDT
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I'm gonna go with

this is awesome.

I really like it, I can see it, I can post pics without having to involve another site, and the mobile ROCKS
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This
12/1/2016 6:47:14 PM EDT
[#44]
Who the fuck thought putting everything on ribbons was a good idea.  Garbage.
12/1/2016 7:03:17 PM EDT
[#45]
shit I've got a 30" Monitor 4K to boot and the site is STILL unusable on desktop
12/1/2016 7:06:24 PM EDT
[#46]
A bunch of whiney bitches doing what they do best, whine and bitch.





If my old ass can figure out the format, anyone can. This format is actually running faster on my phone than the old one.
12/1/2016 7:07:51 PM EDT
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shit I've got a 30" Monitor 4K to boot and the site is STILL unusable on desktop
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I'm using a 42" 1080p monitor and it looks horrible
12/1/2016 7:07:56 PM EDT
[#48]
Old arfcom was best arfcom.
12/1/2016 7:14:45 PM EDT
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Though, I wish I could still post pics in the message system.  I always liked sending people a pic of their package with the postage label and tracking number on it...
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Wait... you can't do this anymore? I used that a bunch.
12/1/2016 7:31:26 PM EDT
[#50]
The features are cool but fuck the site is ugly and amateurish looking.  Really terrible to view.


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