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Posted: 7/20/2020 10:28:54 PM EDT
[#1]
placed an order for a pair of these
https://tacticalscorpiongear.com/tactical-scorpion-gear-level-iv-polyethylene-body-armor-10x12-plate.html and thank you Fadedsun for the discount 
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Posted: 7/21/2020 4:20:56 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: placed an order for a pair of these https://tacticalscorpiongear.com/tactical-scorpion-gear-level-iv-polyethylene-body-armor-10x12-plate.html and thank you Fadedsun for the discount Your welcome, I’m passing it around  You get body armor You get rifle plates We all get rifle plates! |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 5:01:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its not so much of material breaking down but the adhesive between the ceramic/hdpe Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: note the 5-year lifespan. Aren’t all ceramic plates 5 year rated? I don't know of any natural mechanism that degrades ceramics. plastic breaks down over time, and those are HDPE plates. Its not so much of material breaking down but the adhesive between the ceramic/hdpe how about the LTC ones that dont have HDPE? they are pressed silicon carbide. maybe a little something external. |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 5:20:48 PM EDT
[#4]
Single vs multi curve
Thoughts? |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 5:30:48 PM EDT
[#5]
Are the Spartan Armor Systems level IV model# 1155 Ceramic plates good to go? Says it has a 10 year warranty.
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Posted: 7/21/2020 5:36:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Single vs multi curve Thoughts? I wish I had bought multi curve instead of single. |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 5:39:33 PM EDT
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I bought 2 new level IV ceramic plates for $300 from a guy on Virgina gun trader 2 wks ago . It was nice to get them locally because most places are out of stock.
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Posted: 7/21/2020 5:55:04 PM EDT
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SiZing questions-
5-11, 174 pounds. Not muscular, more like string bean that likes to eat chipotle and burgers. Medium SAPI? |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 6:12:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was looking at this kit also.....anyone got any good or bad to say about it? Quote HistoryQuoted: I was looking at this kit also.....anyone got any good or bad to say about it? You pays your money and you takes yer chances.  |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 6:23:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish I had bought multi curve instead of single. Does the curve matter so much on the rear plate? |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 6:42:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does the curve matter so much on the rear plate? I was wondering the same thing. Also - any thoughts on bulletproofme.com? They’ve got a decent deal on LBT carrier and level IV plates. |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 7:08:05 PM EDT
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This is what i have from them. the square mulicurve pictured and a multi curve front not pictured.
Its the LTC product. they fit nice, almost not there if..... |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 7:36:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was wondering the same thing. Also - any thoughts on bulletproofme.com? They’ve got a decent deal on LBT carrier and level IV plates. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Does the curve matter so much on the rear plate? I was wondering the same thing. Also - any thoughts on bulletproofme.com? They’ve got a decent deal on LBT carrier and level IV plates. I'm a skinny guy, so yeah I think multi curve would make a difference on the back. Probably even more so than the front actually. For guys with some extra "padding" maybe it won't make much of a difference. I bought the First Spear pad inserts to try to lessen the strain on my back. Doesn't help that my plates are something like 8lbs each. I've read that bulletproofme.com is good to go. I was going to buy the LBT PC from them but they only had large if I remember correctly. |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 8:15:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LAPG is a sister company to BOTACH. You pays your money and you takes yer chances. Where the heck were you 2 days ago....I ended up ordering the shell back kit with the 1155 plates for them.....I hope it works out!!!! I had a 10% coupon and free shipping. ...paid $350 and for this kit https://lapolicegear.com/shellback-tactical-gsa-patpc-ask-patriot-active-shooter-kit-lvl-iv.html |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 10:13:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was wondering the same thing. Also - any thoughts on bulletproofme.com? They’ve got a decent deal on LBT carrier and level IV plates. Bulletproof me is local and a good group of dudes. |
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Posted: 7/22/2020 6:22:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is what i have from them. the square mulicurve pictured and a multi curve front not pictured. Its the LTC product. they fit nice, almost not there if..... @mrrick Thanks - those are the ones I’m looking at in swimmers cut. @AR15travis I’m on the skinny side myself so this helps. Appreciate the response. |
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Posted: 7/22/2020 6:28:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bulletproof me is local and a good group of dudes. @fadedsun Thanks for the response - godd to know. So far they’ve been responsive and helpful. Just wanted to make sure before dropping almost $500 
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Posted: 7/22/2020 6:34:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @fadedsun Thanks for the response - godd to know. So far they’ve been responsive and helpful. Just wanted to make sure before dropping almost $500 Yes, their website is absolutely 2005 awful. But they answer the phone and have stuff in stock. Works for me 
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Posted: 7/22/2020 1:37:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SiZing questions- 5-11, 174 pounds. Not muscular, more like string bean that likes to eat chipotle and burgers. Medium SAPI? I'm 5' 7" 150 pounds on the leaner side, not quite string bean. Would be interested in sizing info, also. Edited to add: I haven't seen any carriers for 8 x 10 plates out there. Anybody here use 8 x 10's? |
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Posted: 7/22/2020 11:25:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/23/2020 2:29:47 PM EDT
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Out of stock
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Posted: 7/23/2020 2:38:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Highcom is where I bought mine a few years ago. Sadly, no more private sales. Highcom only sells to distributors now.   I got my set of 4SAS7's from them a few years ago. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 2:45:55 PM EDT
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Is the weight penalty for steel so bad that it's worth spending more for materials with a 5 year shelf life?
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Posted: 7/23/2020 2:48:46 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bulletproof me is local and a good group of dudes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was wondering the same thing. Also - any thoughts on bulletproofme.com? They've got a decent deal on LBT carrier and level IV plates. Bulletproof me is local and a good group of dudes. I got my first set of ceramics(Ceradyne DBA-E-IV's) from them more than 10+ years ago. Great experience, and they were very helpful on the phone. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 2:59:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the weight penalty for steel so bad that it's worth spending more for materials with a 5 year shelf life? Not only that, spalling too. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 3:08:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the weight penalty for steel so bad that it's worth spending more for materials with a 5 year shelf life? Ceramic plates don't have a 5 year shelf life anymore than steel has a 20 year shelf life. Hesco branded plates are a 10 year warranty, besides. The 5 year warranty is for rebranded Hescos. There was a test of some of the Italian flat ceramic plates from the early 2000s that were still proof against 6 x 7.62x51 hits. If your ceramics sit "on the shelf" or other wise in storage I'd wager they'll last a lifetime. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 3:20:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm 5' 7" 150 pounds on the leaner side, not quite string bean. Would be interested in sizing info, also. Edited to add: I haven't seen any carriers for 8 x 10 plates out there. Anybody here use 8 x 10's? You can wear smalls. I'm about your size and wore smalls and mediums in the Army. Mediums were fine, but smalls were nice. I doubt any carrier will be made to fit small plates, because most people wear mediums of course. Just get whatever carrier you like, in your size, and it will fit small and medium plates. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 3:25:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryShell Back has a similar deal and you don’t have to roll the dice on LAPG. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 3:49:00 PM EDT
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Any sources on an 8x10 soft armor backing?
Bought a set of III+ from scorpion for backups... |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 4:24:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the weight penalty for steel so bad that it's worth spending more for materials with a 5 year shelf life? It’s not that they are bad, it’s that is what the mfg warranties them for. Most are ten years. If there are no signs of damage, carry it. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 7:37:05 PM EDT
[#31]
Any materials to avoid? Is PE+Alumina good to go?
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Posted: 7/23/2020 8:09:10 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At tactical scorpion gear use the code thegunpenguin for 15% off. Your welcome Thanks! Jumped on this deal for a pair of 10x12 multi curve. Figured it can’t hurt. Probably should have asked before, but any issues using the same plate front and back? |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 8:45:52 PM EDT
[#33]
LAPG has their lvl 4 back in stock so I grabbed a couple of those.
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Posted: 7/23/2020 9:58:52 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You can wear smalls. I'm about your size and wore smalls and mediums in the Army. Mediums were fine, but smalls were nice. I doubt any carrier will be made to fit small plates, because most people wear mediums of course. Just get whatever carrier you like, in your size, and it will fit small and medium plates. Thanks |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 10:02:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LAPG has their lvl 4 back in stock so I grabbed a couple of those. Folks, if you are on the fence about plates due to cost, these Level IVs are great performers and cheap insurance. I use them as targets on occasion. There were 146 in stock about 20 minutes ago, there's 98 left at the time of this posting. LAPG Level IV Plates $119/each |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 10:06:51 PM EDT
[#36]
Multi curved plates. Are they universal for wearing in front and back, or designed for just front or back?
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Posted: 7/23/2020 10:07:38 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Multi curved plates. Are they universal for wearing in front and back, or designed for just front or back? Good to go, front and back. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 10:15:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Out of stock They look like they are in stock to me. (?) |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 10:17:40 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Folks, if you are on the fence about plates due to cost, these Level IVs are great performers and cheap insurance. I use them as targets on occasion. There were 146 in stock about 20 minutes ago, there's 98 left at the time of this posting. LAPG Level IV Plates $119/each Chinese and uncertified. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 10:34:47 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: placed an order for a pair of these https://tacticalscorpiongear.com/tactical-scorpion-gear-level-iv-polyethylene-body-armor-10x12-plate.html and thank you Fadedsun for the discount Does anybody know what the story is with the 5 year lifespan? |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 10:38:01 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Chinese and uncertified. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Folks, if you are on the fence about plates due to cost, these Level IVs are great performers and cheap insurance. I use them as targets on occasion. There were 146 in stock about 20 minutes ago, there's 98 left at the time of this posting. LAPG Level IV Plates $119/each Chinese and uncertified. I’ve used and abused them, they perform as advertised. Mr. G&G’s testing:  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 10:53:59 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They look like they are in stock to me. (?) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Out of stock They look like they are in stock to me. (?) It is in stock. It wasn't an hour or two ago. For that price I grabbed one. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 11:02:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryManufacture Date 2016 Is that a no fo? |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 11:13:46 PM EDT
[#44]
ITT I learn that I spent a lot more on plates than most people did... for somewhat less protection.
But I knew that going in. I'm good.
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Posted: 7/24/2020 5:13:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Manufacture Date 2016 Is that a no fo? They’ll be fine. |
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Posted: 7/24/2020 11:43:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chinese and uncertified. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Folks, if you are on the fence about plates due to cost, these Level IVs are great performers and cheap insurance. I use them as targets on occasion. There were 146 in stock about 20 minutes ago, there's 98 left at the time of this posting. LAPG Level IV Plates $119/each Chinese and uncertified. They claim it's NIJ Level IV Tested on their site. |
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Posted: 7/24/2020 11:46:50 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Chinese and uncertified. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Folks, if you are on the fence about plates due to cost, these Level IVs are great performers and cheap insurance. I use them as targets on occasion. There were 146 in stock about 20 minutes ago, there's 98 left at the time of this posting. LAPG Level IV Plates $119/each Chinese and uncertified. BS. |
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Posted: 7/24/2020 5:32:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BS. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Folks, if you are on the fence about plates due to cost, these Level IVs are great performers and cheap insurance. I use them as targets on occasion. There were 146 in stock about 20 minutes ago, there's 98 left at the time of this posting. LAPG Level IV Plates $119/each Chinese and uncertified. BS. Please post their certification. Even lapg says they are tested. Not certified |
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Posted: 7/24/2020 5:39:41 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Please post their certification. Even lapg says they are tested. Not certified Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Folks, if you are on the fence about plates due to cost, these Level IVs are great performers and cheap insurance. I use them as targets on occasion. There were 146 in stock about 20 minutes ago, there's 98 left at the time of this posting. LAPG Level IV Plates $119/each Chinese and uncertified. BS. Please post their certification. Even lapg says they are tested. Not certified Prove they're uncertified. |
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Posted: 7/24/2020 5:42:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Prove they're uncertified. That seems backwards. But hey, sure, here you go: 
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