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Posted: 7/19/2020 4:57:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Highcom is where I bought mine a few years ago. Sadly, no more private sales. Highcom only sells to distributors now.  Turns out my kids plates didn't come from there My plates and the wife's plates did and I just kept getting emails from them. |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 5:03:26 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Body armor outlet. Hesco 4400 for 120 a piece. Bodyarmoroutlet is gtg |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 5:20:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/19/2020 5:46:42 PM EDT
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Might be a stupid question, but...
If I have a BFG PLATEminus carrier in large, would large multi-curve plates fit correctly? Tactical Scorpion Lvl IV 10x12 plate |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 7:20:08 PM EDT
[#5]
silicon or alumina?
would love to hear from someone who has these, how well do you shoulder you're rifle with these plates |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 7:25:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: silicon or alumina? From what I have read I think you are just saving weight there. |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 7:35:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except I was asking a question. OP answered with a good answer and I moved on without derailing the thread. You asked a question just like I did. When you do it though it's diffrent. No big deal. Just pointing out your hippocracy. |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 8:02:03 PM EDT
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I just ordered the BOGO from AR500 a few weeks ago. I know nothing of armor but figured 3+ is better than my skin.
I'm high drag / low speed and coming up on 58 years old, so prolonged firefights is sort of out of my league. They are more for if unrest comes to my AO and I'm driving around in my truck looking for supplies and get stuck in some shit. |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 8:14:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You asked a question just like I did. When you do it though it's diffrent. No big deal. Just pointing out your hippocracy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Except I was asking a question. OP answered with a good answer and I moved on without derailing the thread. You asked a question just like I did. When you do it though it's diffrent. No big deal. Just pointing out your hippocracy. You posted a dozen times on the first page derailing a thread. Yeah, its different. |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 8:18:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI was looking at this kit also.....anyone got any good or bad to say about it? |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 8:36:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They had the same deal few days ago as well but it was $230 - lasted about 10 minutes. $230+ shipping. My total came out to $266 ?? They’ll be here Tuesday. I also picked up a set of botach battle steel III+/srt off the EE here that were brand new, but I paid a huge premium for the convenience of getting them here quickly. Those will be going in the wife’s kit, and I’ll be taking the level 4, since those are heavier. |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 8:36:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just ordered the BOGO from AR500 a few weeks ago. I know nothing of armor but figured 3+ is better than my skin. I'm high drag / low speed and coming up on 58 years old, so prolonged firefights is sort of out of my league. They are more for if unrest comes to my AO and I'm driving around in my truck looking for supplies and get stuck in some shit. You and I bud. I’m ordered 3 sets of the 3+ for my wife and kids. We hope we will never need to use them. The armor is gtg...them delivering on time is another. |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 8:50:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was looking at this kit also.....anyone got any good or bad to say about it? Quote HistoryQuoted: I was looking at this kit also.....anyone got any good or bad to say about it? Shellback makes good gear. I have 1 of their PCs. Those plates are a little on the heavy side at 8.2lbs. Not a bad deal though if it’s in stock. Let’s be real, most of us aren’t going to be humping miles and living out of a pack so a couple extra pounds of plates isn’t that big a deal. |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 8:59:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was looking at this kit also.....anyone got any good or bad to say about it? Quote HistoryQuoted: I was looking at this kit also.....anyone got any good or bad to say about it? Well...I just bought some lvl 4 plates from Bodyarmoroutlet....they weighed roughly 1# less per plate...I just bought a GGG minimalist plate carrier a couple days ago...needed to get something to stuff inside of it. Thanks guys. |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 9:08:52 PM EDT
[#15]
Some people will laugh, but VISM level 3+ plates are actually very good quality. Here are some for $159 a piece VISM Level III+ plates
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Posted: 7/19/2020 9:11:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat looks like a great deal |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 9:17:46 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I got burned by Botach 15 or so years ago. Will never do business with them ever again and don't understand how they get enough customers to survive. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah, it's Botach but check out the test video: Botach Lvl 4 Plates I got burned by Botach 15 or so years ago. Will never do business with them ever again and don't understand how they get enough customers to survive. 2 years ago for me. I literally got nothing for my money. Fuck them. |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 9:21:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They had the same deal few days ago as well but it was $230 - lasted about 10 minutes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You missed the Kota deal a few weeks back. Level 4 plates with a carrier for 220 dollars shipped. Still kicking myself for missing out on that. They had the same deal few days ago as well but it was $230 - lasted about 10 minutes. Their deals always sell out in minutes. Best prices anywhere on armor, and you get it quick. You just have to be on top of it when they post inventory. |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 9:32:26 PM EDT
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Something cheap that will stop M855 and M193 would be nice. The Hesco plates and others on sale (IIRC) were level IV? Always used SAPI and Protec level IV, but need a budget set for just in case.
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Posted: 7/19/2020 9:46:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Something cheap that will stop M855 and M193 would be nice. The Hesco plates and others on sale (IIRC) were level IV? Always used SAPI and Protec level IV, but need a budget set for just in case. I just purchased 2 x RMA level IV large SAPI cut single curve plates for $121.50 each using "RMAPROTECTS" discount code I found online for 10% off. |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 11:02:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just purchased 2 x RMA level IV large SAPI cut single curve plates for $121.50 each using "RMAPROTECTS" discount code I found online for 10% off. Where? I've been looking and can't find it. |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 11:08:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where? I've been looking and can't find it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just purchased 2 x RMA level IV large SAPI cut single curve plates for $121.50 each using "RMAPROTECTS" discount code I found online for 10% off. Where? I've been looking and can't find it. RMA 1155 |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 11:55:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where? I've been looking and can't find it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just purchased 2 x RMA level IV large SAPI cut single curve plates for $121.50 each using "RMAPROTECTS" discount code I found online for 10% off. Where? I've been looking and can't find it. Directly on their website |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 11:56:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I just purchased 2 x RMA level IV large SAPI cut single curve plates for $121.50 each using "RMAPROTECTS" discount code I found online for 10% off. Where? I've been looking and can't find it. RMA 1155 Yep. There it is. Sorry, on my cell now and didnt have the link |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 12:01:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok total newb mode on https://tacticalscorpiongear.com/tactical-scorpion-gear-level-iv-polyethylene-body-armor-10x12-plate.html are front and rear plates the same? If i just order two I would be good to go, plus some trauma pads. Already have carrier that fits 10 x12 newb mode off Clicked on that one. Plates have a 5 year lifespan? There is an expiration date on them? Am I interpreting this correctly? I know nothing about armor but plan to start reading up. |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 12:09:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Clicked on that one. Plates have a 5 year lifespan? There is an expiration date on them? Am I interpreting this correctly? I know nothing about armor but plan to start reading up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ok total newb mode on https://tacticalscorpiongear.com/tactical-scorpion-gear-level-iv-polyethylene-body-armor-10x12-plate.html are front and rear plates the same? If i just order two I would be good to go, plus some trauma pads. Already have carrier that fits 10 x12 newb mode off Clicked on that one. Plates have a 5 year lifespan? There is an expiration date on them? Am I interpreting this correctly? I know nothing about armor but plan to start reading up. Plate components have a degradation of material. Plates won't necessarily "expire" but the company won't back them past that date. Tactical Scorpion ones I looked at were 5 years... the RMA ones linked just above are 10 years |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 12:14:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do people wait to get things when theyve been so cheap and available for years Complacency. Aka same reason Joe gets smoked at a checkpoint 4 months into a deployment with no shots fired thus far and first fight he is looking at his ipod with his headphones in and not his lane.????? |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 12:20:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Plate components have a degradation of material. Plates won't necessarily "expire" but the company won't back them past that date. Tactical Scorpion ones I looked at were 5 years... the RMA ones linked just above are 10 years http://www.bulletproofme.com/ |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 2:19:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you. Was totally unaware of that. These guys are in Austin, TX. They talk a lot about getting "fitted". Is that someone you guys do? Although it looks like they have no stock available right now, anybody order from them? http://www.bulletproofme.com/ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Plate components have a degradation of material. Plates won't necessarily "expire" but the company won't back them past that date. Tactical Scorpion ones I looked at were 5 years... the RMA ones linked just above are 10 years http://www.bulletproofme.com/ Heat, moisture, general wear and tear are all going to affect the longevity of the plates. And don't "you guys" me... I'm only in the boat directly in front of you. Just ordered my first set today |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 2:25:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/20/2020 2:29:24 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Might be a stupid question, but... If I have a BFG PLATEminus carrier in large, would large multi-curve plates fit correctly? Tactical Scorpion Lvl IV 10x12 plate Yes. I am running some older DKX plates that are about 1.35" in width in mine. P.S 10x12 would fit in a medium carrier. Large might be to big. |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 3:52:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In all fairness to Botach (yeah, yeah, blah, blah) my order from Saber Solutions in early June has a 12 week lead time. The issue with Botach is they need to reauthorize your credit card again after 30 days, and they do not keep it on file! You must take the initiative, and follow up with them weekly IMO. I just purchased both the LAPG LVL IV, and the Botach BS LVL IV. The Botach Battle Steel thread has some good info and pics. The Botach Battle Steel Level IV were quite impressive. They are well curved, lightweight and inexpensive compared to some of the other budget offerings. YMMV |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 5:37:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: note the 5-year lifespan. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ok total newb mode on https://tacticalscorpiongear.com/tactical-scorpion-gear-level-iv-polyethylene-body-armor-10x12-plate.html are front and rear plates the same? If i just order two I would be good to go, plus some trauma pads. Already have carrier that fits 10 x12 newb mode off note the 5-year lifespan. I've a pretty nice set of multicurves made by LTC I got from bullet proof me. those, I don't worry about the "5yr date" and i don't know when you would. I know what's inside and some details. I wasn't there but you know. no idea on the stock - bulletproofme. the stuff they do sell isn't junk. |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 5:43:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You missed the Kota deal a few weeks back. Level 4 plates with a carrier for 220 dollars shipped. I got whatever the recent deal was from them for $256 shipped and it arrived within 2 days. |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 11:57:08 AM EDT
[#35]
Bought these yesterday...$249 shipped for set
https://www.bodyarmoroutlet.com/products/copy-of-bao-tactical-pair-of-4400gl-level-iv-sa-hard-armor-plates-shooters-cut-single-curve-10x12 Hope they are good...gonna put them in a GGG minimalist carrier... |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 12:40:41 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bought these yesterday...$249 shipped for set https://www.bodyarmoroutlet.com/products/copy-of-bao-tactical-pair-of-4400gl-level-iv-sa-hard-armor-plates-shooters-cut-single-curve-10x12 Hope they are good...gonna put them in a GGG minimalist carrier... They're GTG, just rebranded Hesco's. |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 2:11:20 PM EDT
[#37]
At tactical scorpion gear use the code thegunpenguin for 15% off.
Your welcome 
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Posted: 7/20/2020 5:17:36 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They're GTG, just rebranded Hesco's. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Bought these yesterday...$249 shipped for set https://www.bodyarmoroutlet.com/products/copy-of-bao-tactical-pair-of-4400gl-level-iv-sa-hard-armor-plates-shooters-cut-single-curve-10x12 Hope they are good...gonna put them in a GGG minimalist carrier... They're GTG, just rebranded Hesco's. Well...B.A.O. just sent me a email confirming my order...and they said they are expecting there next shipment of the 4400s in Sept....so itll be a couple month wait.....anyone have these or the 1155 plates in stock? |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 5:23:47 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Might be a stupid question, but... If I have a BFG PLATEminus carrier in large, would large multi-curve plates fit correctly? Tactical Scorpion Lvl IV 10x12 plate I had a large plate minus with hesco 4401 10x12 and wish I bought a medium. It's not terrible but needs a spacer at the bottom to snug the pages properly at the top of the pocket. |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 6:53:01 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At tactical scorpion gear use the code thegunpenguin for 15% off. Your welcome Thanks I might get those 3+ steel plates. |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 8:33:26 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Aren’t all ceramic plates 5 year rated? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: note the 5-year lifespan. Aren’t all ceramic plates 5 year rated? I don't know of any natural mechanism that degrades ceramics. plastic breaks down over time, and those are HDPE plates. |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 8:40:21 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know of any natural mechanism that degrades ceramics. plastic breaks down over time, and those are HDPE plates. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: note the 5-year lifespan. Aren’t all ceramic plates 5 year rated? I don't know of any natural mechanism that degrades ceramics. plastic breaks down over time, and those are HDPE plates. Its not so much of material breaking down but the adhesive between the ceramic/hdpe |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 8:47:33 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well...B.A.O. just sent me a email confirming my order...and they said they are expecting there next shipment of the 4400s in Sept....so itll be a couple month wait.....anyone have these or the 1155 plates in stock? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Bought these yesterday...$249 shipped for set https://www.bodyarmoroutlet.com/products/copy-of-bao-tactical-pair-of-4400gl-level-iv-sa-hard-armor-plates-shooters-cut-single-curve-10x12 Hope they are good...gonna put them in a GGG minimalist carrier... They're GTG, just rebranded Hesco's. Well...B.A.O. just sent me a email confirming my order...and they said they are expecting there next shipment of the 4400s in Sept....so itll be a couple month wait.....anyone have these or the 1155 plates in stock? You could probably get 1155’s directly from RMA a few weeks faster, but honestly, I’d just wait it out. |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 8:48:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its not so much of material breaking down but the adhesive between the ceramic/hdpe Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: note the 5-year lifespan. Aren’t all ceramic plates 5 year rated? I don't know of any natural mechanism that degrades ceramics. plastic breaks down over time, and those are HDPE plates. Its not so much of material breaking down but the adhesive between the ceramic/hdpe interesting--i didn't know that. my current PC setup is a III+ HDPE in front, and a II+ soft panel in back. Minus mags, it weighs maybe 7# total. but i'm worried about time, so i just ordered a ceramic IV plate, and plan to move the HDPE to the back. it's my funeral. 
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Posted: 7/20/2020 9:51:41 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You could probably get 1155’s directly from RMA a few weeks faster, but honestly, I’d just wait it out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Bought these yesterday...$249 shipped for set https://www.bodyarmoroutlet.com/products/copy-of-bao-tactical-pair-of-4400gl-level-iv-sa-hard-armor-plates-shooters-cut-single-curve-10x12 Hope they are good...gonna put them in a GGG minimalist carrier... They're GTG, just rebranded Hesco's. Well...B.A.O. just sent me a email confirming my order...and they said they are expecting there next shipment of the 4400s in Sept....so itll be a couple month wait.....anyone have these or the 1155 plates in stock? You could probably get 1155’s directly from RMA a few weeks faster, but honestly, I’d just wait it out. In the email they sent to tell me about the timeframe they offered me the 1155s for $15 more each and said I'd have them sooner( Aug)...but I stayed with the 4400s I ordered originally. What's the differences between the 1155s and 4400s? |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 10:02:37 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In the email they sent to tell me about the timeframe they offered me the 1155s for $15 more each and said I'd have them sooner( Aug)...but I stayed with the 4400s I ordered originally. What's the differences between the 1155s and 4400s? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Bought these yesterday...$249 shipped for set https://www.bodyarmoroutlet.com/products/copy-of-bao-tactical-pair-of-4400gl-level-iv-sa-hard-armor-plates-shooters-cut-single-curve-10x12 Hope they are good...gonna put them in a GGG minimalist carrier... They're GTG, just rebranded Hesco's. Well...B.A.O. just sent me a email confirming my order...and they said they are expecting there next shipment of the 4400s in Sept....so itll be a couple month wait.....anyone have these or the 1155 plates in stock? You could probably get 1155’s directly from RMA a few weeks faster, but honestly, I’d just wait it out. In the email they sent to tell me about the timeframe they offered me the 1155s for $15 more each and said I'd have them sooner( Aug)...but I stayed with the 4400s I ordered originally. What's the differences between the 1155s and 4400s? I believe the Hesco’s are a tad lighter. At the price point, both are best in class IMO. Really comes down to which logo you prefer (which will be hidden anyway), and if you feel like waiting that extra month. 
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Posted: 7/20/2020 10:06:37 PM EDT
[#47]
Are trauma pads a must have for ceramic?
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Posted: 7/20/2020 10:07:09 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You missed the Kota deal a few weeks back. Level 4 plates with a carrier for 220 dollars shipped. It came back for a few hours last week. |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 10:13:09 PM EDT
[#49]
I ordered my $99 level 4 plates from Botach june 24th and had them in hand around July 13th. some guys have been waiting longer for the same thing, I guess its just luck of the draw.
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Posted: 7/20/2020 10:13:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Procrastination Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why do people wait to get things when theyve been so cheap and available for years Procrastination Until the last year I looked at that stuff and said, I've not trained with it and the chances of me donning body armor for a home defense situation are slim to none. In fact, I've been the only guy at a carbine course or pistol course without some kind of carrier because train how you fight and vs versa. My mind changed quite a bit this year. |
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