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Posted: 6/16/2017 2:56:53 PM EDT
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You all know this really did not stop much of anything I'm afraid. US Cruise ships, (US Cruise lines win big here for Group tours) and American Airlines types are still allowed to fly there but airlines for sure will see a sharp decline and wil be cutting back. None of this has been turned back. The "People-to-People" reason block on the 12 reasons questionnaire was removed, but you can still fly there. Also no roll backs on how much Cigars and Alcohol you can bring back, up to $800 for personal consumption and anything after that a excise tax.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-cuba-travel-restrictions-what-does-it-mean-obama-rollback-expert-explained-a7794226.html |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 2:57:06 PM EDT
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The government run farms over-worked the tobacco fields the point of depletion. They "milked" that ground over and over again for decades to get every dime they could. Last i heard, Honduras was the best. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hear it isn't worth it. The smoke shops here said they would never import the inferior over hyped cigars |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 2:57:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/16/2017 2:58:11 PM EDT
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No cubanos cigars?
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:03:22 PM EDT
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FUCK CUBA
Any anyone with half a brain knows Cuban cigars are NO BIG DEAL. |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:04:43 PM EDT
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Those people in Cuba are damn poor and who want the America democracy and a bit more money on their food plate besides $25 per month!
 I applaud our POTUS in describing more ways to get these poorest people more opportunity and more food on their table each month. Presently, it's despicable their living conditions how much the Cuban people don't have, but REALLY love America and the all the people here. It will be very interesting what happens when Raul steps down in 2018.
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:04:57 PM EDT
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Oh ok. Should have voted for Hillary then. |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:05:28 PM EDT
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Yep ...and he just turned tail on deporting the dreamers. They get to stay now.  |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:06:25 PM EDT
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Does this mean the Wolverine AK's aren't coming?
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:06:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:07:17 PM EDT
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You all know this really did not stop much of anything I'm afraid. US Cruise ships, (US Cruise lines win big here for Group tours) and American Airlines types are still allowed to fly there but airlines for sure will see a sharp decline and wil be cutting back. None of this has been turned back. The "People-to-People" reason block on the 12 reasons questionnaire was removed, but you can still fly there. Also no roll backs on how much Cigars and Alcohol you can bring back, up to $800 for personal consumption and anything after that a excise tax. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-cuba-travel-restrictions-what-does-it-mean-obama-rollback-expert-explained-a7794226.html 
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:07:38 PM EDT
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That is my President!
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:07:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:08:00 PM EDT
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Good. That needs more national attention, and Trump is the guy in the best position to do it. Wherever Obama is, I hope he's angry. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Demanding they give the cop killer back Wherever Obama is, I hope he's angry. |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:08:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:10:23 PM EDT
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I kinda want to see Trump reverse Obama's elimination of "wet foot, dry foot". That would really make heads implode.
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:10:30 PM EDT
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And another part of the Obama "legacy" is gone.  Obama. The Crumbling Legacy 
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:12:46 PM EDT
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Hail Trump. We who are about to win salute you!  If I still drake, I would pour myself a Cuba Libre'... Brown Rum and Coke-Cola....
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:13:18 PM EDT
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Nothing kicks the shit out of communism like fucking over the common people that might actually rise up against the communist government that is oppressing them. If you really want to overthrow Cuba's government you would be flooding Cuba with American goods and culture. Show them what they are missing. Instead we embargo the shit out of Cuba leaving the Cuban government unopposed as it treats its people like shit and in the dark about how much better they could be off without their government. Fuck the Cuban government and double fuck the Cuban people...  Good work MAGA!We have to deal with places like Red China and Saudi Arabia because of their markets. It's Cuba's bad luck that they don't really have anything we need badly enough to deal with the Devil. We're under no obligation to open the US to Havana unless Havana does what we want, namely stop political repression of the Cuban people and turn over cop killers that fled to Cuba. If Havana can't or won't do that, then sucks for the common Cuban, but they can always trade with the UK, Canada, Brazil, Mexico, Germany, China, France Spain, India, Australia, South Africa, SA, and a bunch of other countries. |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:16:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:18:12 PM EDT
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No cubanos cigars? |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:19:45 PM EDT
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I figure this is as good a day as any to go smoke this while some pork steaks smoke. My bud brought it back for me a week or two ago.
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:20:07 PM EDT
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But muh Cuban cigars!
... MAGA! . I'm mad as hell. I want my Cubans
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:20:17 PM EDT
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I want someone to make a gif of Trump smiling while he flushes Obama down a toilet with the title "elections have consequences". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And another part of the Obama "legacy" is gone.
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:20:23 PM EDT
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So what do we think we're risking if we're open to business and travel with Cuba even if they are not open to us?
Does anyone realistically think that a GM plant would shut down here to move to Cuba? I'm a little confused about what huge advantage there is to this. If it's to get a fugitive, certainly there are other means. |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:21:23 PM EDT
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Now that is funny |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:26:36 PM EDT
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Nothing kicks the shit out of communism like fucking over the common people that might actually rise up against the communist government that is oppressing them. If you really want to overthrow Cuba's government you would be flooding Cuba with American goods and culture. Show them what they are missing. Instead we embargo the shit out of Cuba leaving the Cuban government unopposed as it treats its people like shit and in the dark about how much better they could be off without their government. Fuck the Cuban government and double fuck the Cuban people... Good work MAGA! |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:28:21 PM EDT
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I hear it isn't worth it. The smoke shops here said they would never import the inferior over hyped cigars |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:29:18 PM EDT
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/06/16/fact-sheet-cuba-policy
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You all know this really did not stop much of anything I'm afraid. US Cruise ships, (US Cruise lines win big here for Group tours) and American Airlines types are still allowed to fly there but airlines for sure will see a sharp decline and wil be cutting back. None of this has been turned back. The "People-to-People" reason block on the 12 reasons questionnaire was removed, but you can still fly there. Also no roll backs on how much Cigars and Alcohol you can bring back, up to $800 for personal consumption and anything after that a excise tax. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-cuba-travel-restrictions-what-does-it-mean-obama-rollback-expert-explained-a7794226.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
You all know this really did not stop much of anything I'm afraid. US Cruise ships, (US Cruise lines win big here for Group tours) and American Airlines types are still allowed to fly there but airlines for sure will see a sharp decline and wil be cutting back. None of this has been turned back. The "People-to-People" reason block on the 12 reasons questionnaire was removed, but you can still fly there. Also no roll backs on how much Cigars and Alcohol you can bring back, up to $800 for personal consumption and anything after that a excise tax. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-cuba-travel-restrictions-what-does-it-mean-obama-rollback-expert-explained-a7794226.html some of the changes that will occur are in here Summary of Key Policy Changes:
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:30:07 PM EDT
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The common people have been getting fucked over since 1959. Why should we enable their oppressors, you know the ones who brought in Soviet nukes and very nearly started WW 3? |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:32:11 PM EDT
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Yep ...and he just turned tail on deporting the dreamers. They get to stay now. |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:33:59 PM EDT
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So what do we think we're risking if we're open to business and travel with Cuba even if they are not open to us? Does anyone realistically think that a GM plant would shut down here to move to Cuba? I'm a little confused about what huge advantage there is to this. If it's to get a fugitive, certainly there are other means. |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:37:27 PM EDT
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There's that dumbassed response that can always be counted on.... Would that make you happy? I'm fucking ecstatic we have a President that loves America again. He's not perfect. His mistakes should be called out. But he should also be praised for the promises he's been keeping. And I'm enjoying the meltdown and utter hysteria he's sending the left spiraling into |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:37:48 PM EDT
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Saw it on Fox. The board communists and never Trumpers are probably wetting their pants.
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:37:49 PM EDT
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LOL at people smoking the expensive Cuban cigars.
I just buy a bag of Cuban cigar bands on Ebay for $5. Then I wrap the Cuban bands around some Swisher Sweets from Walmart, and give them away to my "special" friends. |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:39:30 PM EDT
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people on this board already know that, anything that makes Trump look bad, or impedes Trump's policies or plans, are things that you support I don't waste my or other peoples' time by saying "+1" all day. In a thread where everyone's bashing Hillary, I nod and move on. Same with a thread about a positive Trump thing I like. I would think you'd know this, in the Scalise shooting thread you tried to label me in exactly the same way incorrectly. |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:42:52 PM EDT
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I kinda want to see Trump reverse Obama's elimination of "wet foot, dry foot". That would really make heads implode.
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:43:11 PM EDT
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I'm ok with this.
No complete normalization of relations as long as anyone named "Castro" is in power, and that leader is appointed as the result of a fair election. |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:44:14 PM EDT
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But I thought Liberals put principles above "business and travel" when it comes to human right violations. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:45:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:45:47 PM EDT
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The majority of the Cuban exiles and Cuban Americans don't support the Castro communist dictatorship. The rage against the Obama deal is that the so-called American economical benefits only enrich the communist government, not the Cuban citizen. Which is awfully interesting, isn't it? Why do Liberals believe in trickle down economics when it comes to foreign aid? |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:47:58 PM EDT
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I figure this is as good a day as any to go smoke this while some pork steaks smoke. My bud brought it back for me a week or two ago. http://i.imgur.com/LdRLK4B.jpg |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:48:27 PM EDT
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God I wish I could have a beer with this man! Our Prez is a bad ass! |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:48:59 PM EDT
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So, is this Joy Reid a Cuban exile or a Cuban American? The majority of the Cuban exiles and Cuban Americans don't support the Castro communist dictatorship. The rage against the Obama deal is that the so-called American economical benefits only enrich the communist government, not the Cuban citizen. Sounds like Joy Reid is just another domestic communist that hates the United States and the US constitution and supports the suppression of freedom everywhere. Why should anyone care what Joy Reid has to say?
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:51:37 PM EDT
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They already know what the rest of the world has access to because Cuba has trade and relations with the whole rest of the world. We have to deal with places like Red China and Saudi Arabia because of their markets. It's Cuba's bad luck that they don't really have anything we need badly enough to deal with the Devil. We're under no obligation to open the US to Havana unless Havana does what we want, namely stop political repression of the Cuban people and turn over cop killers that fled to Cuba. If Havana can't or won't do that, then sucks for the common Cuban, but they can always trade with the UK, Canada, Brazil, Mexico, Germany, China, France Spain, India, Australia, South Africa, SA, and a bunch of other countries. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nothing kicks the shit out of communism like fucking over the common people that might actually rise up against the communist government that is oppressing them. If you really want to overthrow Cuba's government you would be flooding Cuba with American goods and culture. Show them what they are missing. Instead we embargo the shit out of Cuba leaving the Cuban government unopposed as it treats its people like shit and in the dark about how much better they could be off without their government. Fuck the Cuban government and double fuck the Cuban people... Good work MAGA!We have to deal with places like Red China and Saudi Arabia because of their markets. It's Cuba's bad luck that they don't really have anything we need badly enough to deal with the Devil. We're under no obligation to open the US to Havana unless Havana does what we want, namely stop political repression of the Cuban people and turn over cop killers that fled to Cuba. If Havana can't or won't do that, then sucks for the common Cuban, but they can always trade with the UK, Canada, Brazil, Mexico, Germany, China, France Spain, India, Australia, South Africa, SA, and a bunch of other countries. The following is such stupidity it's not worth addressing: "If you really want to overthrow Cuba's government you would be flooding Cuba with American goods and culture. Show them what they are missing."   Stupidity.
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:53:11 PM EDT
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Their parents can't. At least Trump is smart enough to know that kicking a bunch of kids out of the country wouldn't play well in the press.
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:53:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:55:08 PM EDT
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that's a fake, the spacing of the font is bad Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I figure this is as good a day as any to go smoke this while some pork steaks smoke. My bud brought it back for me a week or two ago. http://i.imgur.com/LdRLK4B.jpg 
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:56:38 PM EDT
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The common people have been getting fucked over since 1959. Why should we enable their oppressors, you know the ones who brought in Soviet nukes and very nearly started WW 3? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nothing kicks the shit out of communism like fucking over the common people that might actually rise up against the communist government that is oppressing them. If you really want to overthrow Cuba's government you would be flooding Cuba with American goods and culture. Show them what they are missing. Instead we embargo the shit out of Cuba leaving the Cuban government unopposed as it treats its people like shit and in the dark about how much better they could be off without their government. Fuck the Cuban government and double fuck the Cuban people... Good work MAGA!
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Posted: 6/16/2017 3:57:20 PM EDT
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But I thought Liberals put principles above "business and travel" when it comes to human right violations.
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