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6/11/2025 4:19:20 PM EDT
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They need to stop taking orders until they get this under control.
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They did.
6/11/2025 9:05:43 PM EDT
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If I actually get mine in 4 weeks I'll be a happy camper!
6/12/2025 3:20:03 PM EDT
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Where we at with order numbers now?
6/12/2025 3:56:02 PM EDT
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Just for the data miners #3064 no update as of yet. Same 5 day processing and 4wk fulfillment message on tracker
6/12/2025 7:54:39 PM EDT
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Order# 20XX, no update other than the canned response from the "status" tracker.

I'd be less irritated if at the time I placed my order it said "backorder" and not showing as in stock.
6/12/2025 7:57:34 PM EDT
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Order# 20XX, no update other than the canned response from the "status" tracker.

I'd be less irritated if at the time I placed my order it said "backorder" and not showing as in stock.
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I see you've never ordered from Optics Planet.
6/12/2025 8:24:23 PM EDT
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I predict this turns into a shit show.
6/12/2025 10:45:15 PM EDT
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I see you've never ordered from Optics Planet.
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Order# 20XX, no update other than the canned response from the "status" tracker.

I'd be less irritated if at the time I placed my order it said "backorder" and not showing as in stock.


I see you've never ordered from Optics Planet.


Why must you curse this thread with mention of them.
6/12/2025 11:25:05 PM EDT
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Where we at with order numbers now?
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I’d guess around 8,000ish…
6/12/2025 11:33:08 PM EDT
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I’d guess around 8,000ish…
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Placed?   Easily.  I was 85xx a week ago and they only closed orders off a couple of days ago.
6/13/2025 6:49:35 AM EDT
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Order# 20XX, no update other than the canned response from the "status" tracker.

I'd be less irritated if at the time I placed my order it said "backorder" and not showing as in stock.
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Also 20xx and also no update. Difference between you and me is, when I ordered I thought there was a decent shot or was one of those scam sites and I'd never see the item or my $200. So I'm less irritated since they do seem to be shipping eventually.
6/13/2025 8:09:23 AM EDT
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Im hopeful that they had 10k units ready to go and they're just slow at packing orders due to limited staff.
6/13/2025 8:19:23 AM EDT
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I'm 6xxxx or so. Hope something shows up by December.
6/13/2025 9:01:05 AM EDT
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Placed?   Easily.  I was 85xx a week ago and they only closed orders off a couple of days ago.
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I believe order 1000 was just delivered…
6/13/2025 5:06:41 PM EDT
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I predict this turns into a shit show.
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Agreed
6/13/2025 5:12:29 PM EDT
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Im hopeful that they had 10k units ready to go and they're just slow at packing orders due to limited staff.
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My friend.

My name is M'eadin DaPoopoo, the crown prince of Nigera, and I have a deal to propose...
6/14/2025 8:27:03 AM EDT
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I'm still waiting on an update for my order #16XX.
6/14/2025 9:07:48 AM EDT
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Order #1464, out for delivery today
6/14/2025 9:15:00 AM EDT
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Damn. Post proof of life when you get it!
I'm in the 3300s. I probably got another 4 weeks.
6/14/2025 5:32:44 PM EDT
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That givea me hope.. im in the low 2000's
6/18/2025 3:50:05 PM EDT
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I just got shipping confirmation for a high #16XX order.  There's still hope!
6/18/2025 3:55:06 PM EDT
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I just got shipping confirmation for a high #16XX order.  There's still hope!
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11 days from order a little over 1400 to a little under 1700.  Call it 275 orders in 11 days.

That's 25 per day.   Or 9+ months to fill all the existing orders at current production rates.

6/18/2025 3:56:59 PM EDT
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Shipping notice today for order # in the low 18XX.

Well label created

Order was place Saturday 17th around 5 central time.
6/18/2025 4:12:16 PM EDT
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Low 17xx order number - just got shipping notification.
6/18/2025 4:12:30 PM EDT
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Low 1700s and I got the shipping notice today.  I ordered whatever the first day was.
6/18/2025 4:14:12 PM EDT
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Shipping notice today for order # in the low 18XX.

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Order was place Saturday 17th around 5 central time.
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Better and betterrer!  400 in 11 days would put us up to 36 per day or about 6 months to catch up!

6/18/2025 4:25:00 PM EDT
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The original rare breed likes to kink the safety block spring. I put little pins inside the spring on mine to prevent the issue.

My favorite is the Tommy Trigger 3 position. Unfortunately ATF shut them down several years ago. I'm pretty sure their design violated rare breed's patents, so I don't expect them to come back.

The DTT doesn't have as good of a feel as the Tommy Trigger, but it does work well.

I'm not a huge fan of the push to side super safeties. They work well, but I've got years of experience using traditional selectors.

The first Arizona Regulator, I felt it needed quite a bit of work to get fitted to the trigger. So I'm happy they've introduced the new version that's pre-fitted. The only downside now is that you have to pop the upper to swap in and out of forced reset mode. Really good design for anything you want to always be forced reset.

Selektor/Dairyland Defense - feels great in semi auto, but some people are having timing issues with them. I would skip them as too many people have had problems.

Ben has a new design coming. I'm looking forward to seeing how it works.
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@jaqufrost

I'm building another #Bumpsaw with an Arizona Regulator in it because I've been waiting a month for my Super Selektor to ship... it's based off Scott's first version with the M60 bipod. Just waiting on parts to arrive to finish it up. I adapted the bipod last night and need a clamp on front sight like the YHM or VLTOR flip up sight gas blocks to finish her out.

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- Clint
6/18/2025 4:32:31 PM EDT
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Looks good!

I finally received my super selector yesterday.
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6/18/2025 4:36:28 PM EDT
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@jaqufrost

I'm gonna try both but more than likely the Arizona Regulator will end up in my #Bumpsaw, and the Super Selektor will end up in one of my other AR's that I don't want to be stuck with an FRT all the time like you said.

- Clint
6/18/2025 4:42:56 PM EDT
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@jaqufrost

I'm building another #Bumpsaw with an Arizona Regulator in it because I've been waiting a month for my Super Selektor to ship... it's based off Scott's first version with the M60 bipod. Just waiting on parts to arrive to finish it up. I adapted the bipod last night and need a clamp on front sight like the YHM or VLTOR flip up sight gas blocks to finish her out.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/90213/IMG_6770_jpeg-3566971.JPG

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I'm waiting on a couple parts and will have a new bump SAW as well.

I'm also currently trying to modify my MagPump Pro to work with D-60s which might be relevant to FRT enthusiasts.  I've got partial success but need a couple more tweaks I think.
6/18/2025 5:06:57 PM EDT
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I'm waiting on a couple parts and will have a new bump SAW as well.

I'm also currently trying to modify my MagPump Pro to work with D-60s which might be relevant to FRT enthusiasts.  I've got partial success but need a couple more tweaks I think.
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I texted @SkilletsUSMC that we should start a new #Bumpsaw thread with FRT's and making new builds with info on how to get them running reliably.

- Clint
6/18/2025 5:20:38 PM EDT
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I also got a shipping notification in today but not an estimated arrival date yet. I'm right at the mid 18XX order numbers. Mine is saying that it is shipping from Georgia. Does anybody have 100% confirmation that this works with the MBT? I recall seeing a post somewhere else that Atrius said it would work with the MBT but can't find it now.
6/18/2025 5:35:50 PM EDT
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I also got a shipping notification in today but not an estimated arrival date yet. I'm right at the mid 18XX order numbers. Mine is saying that it is shipping from Georgia. Does anybody have 100% confirmation that this works with the MBT? I recall seeing a post somewhere else that Atrius said it would work with the MBT but can't find it now.
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I’ve heard does NOT work with MBT, but can not personally confirm.
6/18/2025 6:05:37 PM EDT
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Getting the band back together?

6/18/2025 6:30:24 PM EDT
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Damn. I haven't seen an MWG drum in a while
6/18/2025 6:34:07 PM EDT
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don't threaten me with a good time.  

- Clint
6/18/2025 6:34:56 PM EDT
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Damn. I haven't seen an MWG drum in a while
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pretty sure they are still available on the website

great drum

https://www.mwgco.com/MWG-223-90A.html


- Clint
6/18/2025 6:36:38 PM EDT
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At one time, I was so deep into this I bought a tote full of them.
6/18/2025 6:46:25 PM EDT
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And no faggoty bumpstock in sight.  
6/18/2025 6:46:34 PM EDT
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So who is stocking a budget HBAR or gov profile 20” upper.  PSA seems to be cranking out 20s but they look to be lightweight for most of them.
6/18/2025 6:49:02 PM EDT
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And no faggoty bumpstock in sight.  
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we were just ahead of the curve, waiting on stuff like these FRT triggers to show up.


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6/18/2025 7:01:02 PM EDT
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Mine was so good though. I reduced the amount of travel to about 3/8 of an inch. And all I needed to do was put my thumb on the sling mount and it would run. But them days are over now.
6/18/2025 7:06:47 PM EDT
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Mine was so good though. I reduced the amount of travel to about 3/8 of an inch. And all I needed to do was put my thumb on the sling mount and it would run. But them days are over now.
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Mine was so good though. I reduced the amount of travel to about 3/8 of an inch. And all I needed to do was put my thumb on the sling mount and it would run. But them days are over now.

I hated bumpstocks almost as much as the tards using them and posting silly videos, but the FRT situation is different.  

I'm down for putting them in everything while I can.  Cat's out of the bag.
6/18/2025 7:10:58 PM EDT
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So who is stocking a budget HBAR or gov profile 20" upper.  PSA seems to be cranking out 20s but they look to be lightweight for most of them.
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Govt profile is easy, heavy is annoying to find.


This is looking tempting,  but the cost will be higher if you want to pin an FSB on.
6/18/2025 7:11:23 PM EDT
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So who is stocking a budget HBAR or gov profile 20” upper.  PSA seems to be cranking out 20s but they look to be lightweight for most of them.
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How about just a colt socom barrel?
6/18/2025 7:14:02 PM EDT
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How about just a colt socom barrel?
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So who is stocking a budget HBAR or gov profile 20" upper.  PSA seems to be cranking out 20s but they look to be lightweight for most of them.


How about just a colt socom barrel?

I haven't been able to track down an affordable version to burn down and treat poorly.
6/18/2025 7:25:36 PM EDT
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At one time, I was so deep into this I bought a tote full of them.
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Fun fact .you can single stack 24rds of .50 Beowulf in one of those
6/18/2025 11:08:17 PM EDT
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Does anyone still make a rail like this, but for a 20" rifle?  I thought the Centurion I just bought was, but nope it's carbine.  Really need something that projects past the FSB for what I want to do with my bipod.



ETA: Maybe no one ever did make one  I'll just make one myself from a 17 or 18" rail.
6/19/2025 6:40:32 AM EDT
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I also got a shipping notification in today but not an estimated arrival date yet. I'm right at the mid 18XX order numbers. Mine is saying that it is shipping from Georgia. Does anybody have 100% confirmation that this works with the MBT? I recall seeing a post somewhere else that Atrius said it would work with the MBT but can't find it now.
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When I tried the Atrius with an MBT, it would bind up.   I think that an MBT might be made to work but I have not had time to mess with it any further.
6/19/2025 7:01:53 AM EDT
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When I tried the Atrius with an MBT, it would bind up.   I think that an MBT might be made to work but I have not had time to mess with it any further.
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I also got a shipping notification in today but not an estimated arrival date yet. I'm right at the mid 18XX order numbers. Mine is saying that it is shipping from Georgia. Does anybody have 100% confirmation that this works with the MBT? I recall seeing a post somewhere else that Atrius said it would work with the MBT but can't find it now.



When I tried the Atrius with an MBT, it would bind up.   I think that an MBT might be made to work but I have not had time to mess with it any further.

Without a unit in hand to verify, but having spent an inordinate amount of time trying to figure things out from a distance and without actionable data from this shitshow of a company, I see two potential issues with the MBT.

The rear top edge of the trigger bar appears to be the engagement surface with the safety mechanism, as best I can tell.  That would explain why "milspec" triggers with the M16 cut don't work.

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There are reports that a Schmid 2 Stage works, so despite the weirdness in the rear geometry, the wide, flat rear edge appears to be good:

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So (if?) flat, wide, and squared off on the top and bottom of the rear trigger bar are in the "good" category, the bottom apparently can be narrow as it isn't the engagement surface.


Looking at the MBT, I see (but cannot prove!) two issues.  The bottom bumps out/down at the rear, which I'm guessing is a engineering choice to really tune/limit reset travel distance in a normal setup.  The other is that, unlike the example above that makes the engagement surface wider, the MBT actually goes inward and makes it narrow.


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