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Posted: 6/28/2014 9:28:56 AM EDT
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Quoted: Going through some boxes of old gun rags from the late 80s and early 90s I saw articles about some of these guns. FN Forty-Nine Star Model 28 Star Ultrastar Browning BDA Walther P88 Steyr GB Colt Double Eagle Browning BDM Colt 2000 Colt Pocket 9 Smith & Wesson Sigma .380 Anyone remember any other handguns that didn't sell well? Star in General was good enough, but just failed. Browning BDA/BDM died because their introduction was too close to the AWB for them to make a difference, and then mags were impossible. The Walther is a shame that it didn't take off. Nifty gun. The Colts and the S&W are all pieces of shit. The Steyr suffers from being built by a company nobody in the US seems to've heard about, then the AWB/not getting adopted anywhere killed it.
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Posted: 6/28/2014 9:30:29 AM EDT
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I had a Walther P-88, it was OK, creepy trigger though. 
I had a couple of P88s the receiver/frame cracked on both. New frame from Earl's was 3/4 of the price of the pistol. Also had a P5 compact 1/4 inch shorter barrel and a push button mag release instead of the European grip heel release. Too valuable to use as an EDC so I traded out for a G26. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 9:31:54 AM EDT
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The Browning BDA name was later reused on a different pistol, which was imported to the US for a short time under the Browning name before becoming much more popular in its real identity.... as the SIG 220. wasnt it the other way around? |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 9:32:35 AM EDT
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Colt (All-American) 2000
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Posted: 6/28/2014 9:33:46 AM EDT
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I had a BDM for a short while. There's good reason they never got popular.
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Posted: 6/28/2014 9:41:10 AM EDT
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The Steyrs are still around.
Great shooting pistols, but good luck finding accessories. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 9:53:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is one of those guns that I want, and I can't even tell you why. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I had a Walther P-88, it was OK, creepy trigger though. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 9:53:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That FN Forty-Nine looks alot like the FNS |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 9:54:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These were great. Deawoo dp51 http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/6959005203/8762034/daewoo1.jpg_thumbnail1.jpg |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 9:56:48 AM EDT
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Remember when every new pistol came out it was on the cover of some gun rag with a stellar review inside?
The more futuristic looking the better. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 9:56:58 AM EDT
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I had a Sigma .380. Wasn't a good match for me. Takedown and cleaning it sucked. Just never felt like a had a good grip on it when firing.
I posted it for sale and was very surprised when it sold the same day I listed. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 9:59:46 AM EDT
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A friend of mine had one of those and we loved shooting it. That little fucker was like a laser. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had that Sigma .380 POS. Needed a hammer and punch to "field strip" for cleaning. Replaced it with a Glock 26 which came out a ferw months after i bought the Sigma .380 A friend of mine had one of those and we loved shooting it. That little fucker was like a laser. That was the gun that Smith designed for people who had no intention of firing it. Unfortunately, the design was perfect for people who had no intention of buying it. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:00:28 AM EDT
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Remember when every new pistol came out it was on the cover of some gun rag with a stellar review inside? The more futuristic looking the better. http://www.theoutdoorstrader.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170471&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1362782591 I still want one of those. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:00:40 AM EDT
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Seecamp made those little 32 double action pistols that were in huge demand. The pistols were designed to work with Winchester Silver Tip ammo only. Seecamp couldn't make them fast enough and the pistols sold for more than MSRP. Then the market just fell out.
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:03:51 AM EDT
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These were great. Deawoo dp51 http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/6959005203/8762034/daewoo1.jpg_thumbnail1.jpg They're actually back but look horrible IMO. Lionheart Industries or whatever their name is. They cerakoted them, redid them in their appearance. overpriced. http://www.lionheartindustries.com/firearms |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:04:50 AM EDT
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Remember when every new pistol came out it was on the cover of some gun rag with a stellar review inside? The more futuristic looking the better. http://www.theoutdoorstrader.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170471&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1362782591 Those wound up being recalled before Vektor got sued into bankruptcy. Had a habit of going off if dropped or had the back of the slide smacked hard. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:05:35 AM EDT
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Was fascinated by the Steyr GB. Almost bought one, but when the 10mm came out i went that route instead.
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:07:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:09:43 AM EDT
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Other than the obvious WWI, WWII, Korean mostly, then Vietnam, Desert Storm and GWOT 1911s, the only auto I really want for historical or cool factor is the Bren Ten.
I do want one of the old Colt Pocket Autos from 1900-1910. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:13:47 AM EDT
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I still want one of those. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Remember when every new pistol came out it was on the cover of some gun rag with a stellar review inside? The more futuristic looking the better. http://www.theoutdoorstrader.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170471&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1362782591 I still want one of those. They were recalled for safety issues, and were almost useless against cylons. Cool design, neat pistol. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:14:59 AM EDT
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Taurus PT92s when they were still worth a shit. very classy guns IMO.
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:15:20 AM EDT
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What about the Mamba?  |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:17:17 AM EDT
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What about the Mamba? <a href="http://s206.photobucket.com/user/sherrick13/media/IMG_2632_zps011fa337.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb171/sherrick13/IMG_2632_zps011fa337.jpg</a> wow that is ugly as sin. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:17:36 AM EDT
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whatever happened to the .32 Seacamp? Used to read all the raves about it in gun rags when I used to get gun rags in the mail
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:18:58 AM EDT
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The Styer GB is a really good pistol with an interesting gas delayed blowback mechanism. GB stands for Gas Brake (or whatever it is in Austrian) The barrel is fixed and there is a gas port in the barrel that vents into the slide and dust cover area. The pressure helps keep the slide forward until the bullet is out of the barrel. Styer had a legal dust-up with Rogak that made a poorly functioning knock-off that damaged Styer's reputation. Rogaks were produced in Morton Grove IL, a pussy liberal town that was famous for it's handgun ban. If you want a Styer GB, get a couple mags with it, they're as rare as hens teeth and if you think panic prices on mags were high...... GB stands for gas bremse or gas braked. They speak German in Austria. Not Austrian. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:19:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: wow that is ugly as sin. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What about the Mamba? <a href="http://s206.photobucket.com/user/sherrick13/media/IMG_2632_zps011fa337.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb171/sherrick13/IMG_2632_zps011fa337.jpg</a> wow that is ugly as sin. It fits in the hand about as good as it looks. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:23:17 AM EDT
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I thought it looked eerily similar to the M&P. It would be interesting to see one taken down if someone has one or can find a pic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That FN Forty-Nine looks alot like the FNS I thought it looked eerily similar to the M&P. It would be interesting to see one taken down if someone has one or can find a pic. It's ugly but it fits the hand very well when the magazine is in. The trigger is horrendous- it's supposed to feel like a double action revolver and it kinda does, if you're talking about a POS Taurus 94. On the bright side it's gone bang with everythign I've ever loaded into the way overpriced and hard to find magazines. I'd be happy to sell it if you'd like t for collecting or testing purposes. 
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:30:50 AM EDT
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I had that Sigma .380 POS. Needed a hammer and punch to "field strip" for cleaning. Replaced it with a Glock 26 which came out a ferw months after i bought the Sigma .380 I had the Sigma 9mm POS......couldn't get rid of it fast enough |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:32:31 AM EDT
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I shot a Walther P88 once, I would absolutely love one. Thing is like a piece of art.
P5 and P9S would also be nice for the Cool Factor, but those are really 70s pistols. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:34:19 AM EDT
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Anyone mention the Coonan .357 yet?
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:34:59 AM EDT
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There were a lot of crappy pistols made in that period, but also a lot of good ones which died off after the AWB. Everyone wanted to be able to get hi capacity mags for their new purchases. The only two pistols I bought during that period were a P-226 and a Hi Power.
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:40:36 AM EDT
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I had a BDM for a short while. There's good reason they never got popular. Looong trigger pull and reset. Double taps are fucking impossible. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 10:55:05 AM EDT
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Something just occurred to me...
THIS is why all the PPQ owners are so pissey in the VP9 threads. 
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Posted: 6/28/2014 11:05:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seecamp made those little 32 double action pistols that were in huge demand. The pistols were designed to work with Winchester Silver Tip ammo only. Seecamp couldn't make them fast enough and the pistols sold for more than MSRP. Then the market just fell out. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 11:13:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jeebus. Post right above yours.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've had multiple Walther P88's. I love them. And having said that, shit, I want another!  Jeebus. Post right above yours. Hahahaha....Most people on here know my wife posts here, and "who" she is, so yeah that post pegged me real good. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 11:14:22 AM EDT
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GB stands for Gas Brake (or whatever it is in Austrian) thought only 0bama could make a gaffe like that
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Posted: 6/28/2014 11:16:26 AM EDT
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The Steyr GB is the first thing I thought of.
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Posted: 6/28/2014 11:16:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWas a broke college student when that came out. Wanted it so F'ning bad. Finger fucked one at the local toy shop until they about ran me out the store. Ran across one last year. Just didn't have the same appeal anymore when I could buy one. 
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Posted: 6/28/2014 11:21:01 AM EDT
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Two-tone started as attempting to better protect the frame on carbon pistols via hard chrome or nickle plating; and (rightfully) leaving the slide dark, because glare sucks. The reverse is just stupid, and should be called out as such whenever encountered.
The P220 and the Beretta 84 (with modifications) were both imported as Browning BDA. I had both and carried the Beretta a lot in the '80s. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 11:22:00 AM EDT
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No Glock?
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Posted: 6/28/2014 11:23:43 AM EDT
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I remember all of those. I came real close to getting the Browning BDA, have a Hi-Power instead.
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Posted: 6/28/2014 11:51:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat is a clasic beauty |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 11:52:54 AM EDT
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I remember all of those. I came real close to getting the Browning BDA, have a Hi-Power instead. All BDA were was rebranded Sigs |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 12:01:11 PM EDT
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These were shitastic. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 12:06:39 PM EDT
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Browning BDA .380 (cross between the Beretta 85 and BHP).
I have one. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 12:06:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Speaking of Steyr pistols, the M series never rally seemed to take off.  I've only gotten a little trigger time with one, but it was pretty decent. I liked the unique sights, and recoil was pretty soft. I've heard they are nice pistols. Somebody posted here that the reason they didn't take off is that Steyr couldn't market free blow jobs at a Star Trek convention  |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 12:11:54 PM EDT
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I've got a Sigma 380.
I still carry it now and then.It always has been 100% reliable for the few rounds I put through it every year or so. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 12:15:09 PM EDT
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Randall Stainless.45s, I had a gun store clerk claim they tried to steer gang bangers towards them as they tended to jam.
I do like my Firestar .45, dead reliable and compact, with very manageable recoil in a Officer sized pistol. Not my video but I'm too lazy to dig the gun out of the safe for a picture. Star Firestar .45 |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 12:19:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: http://www.bren-ten.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/wyomingarmsparker.jpg.w560h396.jpg These were shitastic. |
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Posted: 6/28/2014 12:21:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Browning BDA .380 (cross between the Beretta 85 and BHP). I have one. |
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