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I don't know if we're talking about the same thing, but my father recently tried to get some information on my late grandfather's naval service in the Pacific in WW2. He never really ever spoke about it at all, so we didn't have much to go on. The Navy told my father something about records being lost in a fire, I'm guessing it's the same thing. |
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This is incorrect. The platoon numbering begins with 01 (101, 201, & 301) in January of each year and continues in sequence til December. I graduated Aug. 1967 in Platoon 395, and I am definitely not a "poser". |
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I was an 18E on an SF team and I don't know the nomenclature of the weapons case..... I think the 'chute was an MC-1 C or B.... who cares. |
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Right on that Frost...I know an 18x with that last name, not you is it...?
Its so bad these days. I served in Afghanistan and I cant get the new campaign medal thru our system yet, but you can go on ebay and buy a ton of them...WTF? |
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Not me I'm afraid. It wasn't a guy named Jason Frost was it? Thats the only other Frost in SF that I know. I'm still waiting on my GWOT expeditionary medal and my MSM ETS award..... Been 18 months so I don't think its in the mail or will be. As soon as I start to care I'll send a letter to my old Group SGM and say, "what the f**k, over." |
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I got pulled over for no tail lights (fuse went). have a 101st and 2nd ID sticker on the back window. Cop grills me about them, when I served, what I did. Apparently satisfied, he explained why he stopped me, let me go when I told him I'd fix it ASAP. Then we chatted, he was an 18B in our local NG SF unit. Nice guy. I believe he was following your policy . A boss at a job I had a few years after I ETS'd had a friend who was, I was told, "Airborne". So one day I get to talking to him in a room full of people.... "What'd you do in the Army?" "Airborne" "What was your MOS?" "I told you, airborne" "Well, airborne is a skill, you get an identifier on your MOS for that, it's Papa. Who were you with?" "The 101st Airborne" "What unit?" "Jesus, I just told you, the fucking 101st Screaming Eagles" "When did you get out?" "About five years ago" "Well you're a fucking liar. I was (insert totally true but gratuitous description of what I did here) and you are a lying piece of shit, and if I hear you tell another person you were in the Army I'm gonna stuff you head first into the dumpster and run the compactor" He turned beet red and walked away while everyone laughed at him. I totally don't look like I've done what I've done, and I think I blindsided him. I was shaking I was so freaking pissed. Hell, the dipshit had parked next to my truck a few times, he'd have to have seen the stickers. |
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One that takes the cake in my book:
Had a 1LT in my unit who claimed to be in Somalia in '93 as an enlisted engineer. Never wore a combat patch and didn't talk about it too much. Had a scuba bubble , rare but no big deal. Well right before we get set to deploy to Kuwait for OIF he shows up wearing his DCU's with a Ranger tab. The kick in the pants was, all the other officers knew that he had dropped out of Ranger school before earning the tab and he's walking around the AO with it. So our XO decides to investigate his background while he's on the boat with our equipment. Turns out boy wonder was prior enlisted in the guard but joined in '96, never was scuba qualified and definitely didn't have his tab. As soon as we got to Kuwait he was confronted, told to remove anything from his uniform he didn't earn or it would be removed for him. He was moved over to battalion HQ until they decided what to do with him. The absolute best part was the next day he came over to sit down with his now old platoon at the chow hall and tell them that he was getting fucked over because the XO didn't like him. I asked him straight out if he was Ranger qualified and he said "Yeah, I went to the school." I was real glad to have gotten rid of him. yakrat101 |
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Actually a great Marine verifier is when the respondee gives thier MOS as a four digit number rather than telling you the title. As if someone, even a Marine, is supossed to know all of the designations. I always have to end up asking, what is that? I do he same thing, 2542, and I always here, "What is that?"
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We had one in the 82nd. He was scrolled adn had a mustard stain on his wings. Said he was in 1/75 for Panama. Unfortunate for him they used to nickname our unit the "Ranger retirement home" Many NCOs were career Rangers straight from Regt who were wanting to wind down (unfortunate for us) We had awesome leadership and knowledge. Anyway, he arrived and ent into our scout platoon. He was a friggin soup sandwich. Turned out he was a PAC clerk who read alot of books about the Panama invasion and was actually pretty good at lying about it. I think he really beleived he was legit. He got a chapter 10. |
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I have ran into a few of them myself all over the place and once I find out the truth about them I never stop messing with them.
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My uncle overheard this poser the other night at the bar. he was telling people about his 500 confirmed kills in Fallujah with his personnel 30-06 the Army let him bring over. God these dirtbags are everywhere, guess his mama didnt breast feed them enough.
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i know how you feel, although i wasnst as high speed as you were FROST18E, i was at 2nd RGR bat and i cant for the life of me figure out the nomenclature of the weapons case, but i do know the the chutes T10 B and i think the T10 C, because i hit the ground like a sack of rock every damn time!! |
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M1950 Weapons Case |
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I just met my first poser in the Lexington KY area. I'm in uniform (recruiting duty....for 24 more hours anyway!) at the gas station and this fat guy shuffles up, starts telling me all about how he served for 3 yrs--was a crewchief, an ECS troop and ParaRescue. It's obvious that he's trying to impress his pal. Well, my primary AFSC happens to be ECS. My secondary happens to be crewchief. I've been active AF for 17 yrs, and I know a little about the jobs. Being a recruiter, I have to know a little about ParaRescue because we're always looking for qualified people.
I finished pumping my gas, stopped, turned to face him and said "Dude. Quit the games. If you served, great, thank you for your service. But don't blow sunshine up my ass with a bunch of tall tales, because nothing you've said meshes with the truth." The fat guy looked a bit shocked and waddled away. His buddy came up to me while I was paying for my gas and asked how I knew he was posing. I informed him that per the USAF contract, he can't cross-train into another career field for at least 35 months, yet he claimed to have 3 career fields in just over 3 years. We don't have 3 yr enlistments---he probably got booted out for being a shitbag or opted out during the 94 downsizing. I told him that I had pretty much stopped listening by the time he started talking about jumping out of airplanes with his PSG-1. Felt good to shut the prick down, just thought I'd share. Ron |
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There was an SF trooper on another website complaining about all the posers he runs into in bars, etc.
He said it seems like everyone was some super tactical, high speed ranger seal delta force marine. He finally started telling the dirtbags, "Well, there must've been at least a few truck drivers and supply guys over in Vietnam. If I could ever find one, I'd buy him a beer!" |
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1371: Basic Combat Engineer |
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We had a poser at MAMC. He was always talking about how he used to be a sergeant (or corporal or lieutenant, depending on how new you were or how big your bra size was) and lost his hard stripe when he beat his NCO after an AD "knocked his helmet off of him" while on patrol in Korea.
I never did have all my awards on me with the class A uniform. It's not a matter of not being proud of them. That second (and frankly, the first) oak leaf cluster is just a pain in the ass to keep on the ribbon and slide on the bar. I still keep an EFMB on my desk, but I'll probably never wear it since opportunities for it decreased to close to zero since popping over to the AF Reserves. It's a good reminder of how much goes into a badge. |
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Had a unique run-in with a poser the other day.
The Book-Store-Poser. I was looking through the military history section to see if there was anything interesting I didn't already own. While looking at 'yet-another-book-on-the-air-cavalry-in-vietnam', a guy a few feet away looks at the book I'm holding, then started in on the usually gunshow-style "I was special forces back then". I about died trying not to laugh. You see, I'm in my 20s. This guy was MAYBE 5 years older than me. When I asked him how old he was then, he started talking about the stuff they did after the US officially pulled out. I very bluntly asked him if he was really claiming to have been working covertly in vietnam in the late 80s and early 90s, running around and blowing stuff up. He shut up and left. First time I've run into a book-store-commando. |
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__________________________________________________________________________________ Its easy to spot an Airborne poser. Coin check him (though this is not as effective as it used to be due to the spread of the 'challenge' coin). Ask him the nomenclature of a weapons case, ask him the nomenclature of the chutes he jumped. No poser I have ever met has been able to answer these questions, and regretably Ive met quite a few. formerly 2ndOPDET/B Co/8th POB/4th POG __________________________________________________________________________________ I dont know about this..... I went to Airborne school and Im airborne qualified with 60 plus jumps and i also earned my British jump wings while stationed at 6th RGR Tng Bt. but i dont remember the part number of the wepons case???? I do however remember the T-10 Charlie!!!, but again this was back in 94/95 and i've been out about seven years or so. Also don't carry coins anymore... so.... Also i use to swear they called the chute a T-10 because thats the vertibre it crushed if you scewed up your PLF! Proud to have served, and of those who have.. and still do! |
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Never did get to jump a -1B, they are supposedly easier to steer. Or is is the T-10C that you could steer? I hate skysharks and our CSM was one.
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I must be a fake. The number is just easier to remember than the equipment or title, especially when you are liquored up....... 2827 MDCTTC Mobile Data Center Terminal Technician 2828 KW-26 Terminal Technician I actually had to google them to remember which was which. E-5 in 25 months and two MOS in a 4 year tour. Sounds unbelievable? And I have a DD214 along with a DD215. Wanna see? They are both hanging in my safe. During my tour, nothing happened. I went nowhere outside of the US. I never jumped out of perfectly good aircraft, and have a 3rd Award Expert badge, which would have been 4 if I had not been in school so doggone much. Don't be too quick to judge, especially if you did not serve. |
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I think his point is that real Marines will tell you the number befor the title. |
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The dash ones had the toggles. |
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Only T10s I ever jumped (in my very limited parachuting experience) were the ones with the toggles - if by toggles you mean the little handles on the string, that agonizingly slowly "steered" the chute, and didn't seem to really slow the impact at all, even when you jammed on both of them right before you hit. |
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Yeah it may have been slow but try grabbing and pulling one riser to slip away. The more you were able to pull the faster you "slipped" in that direction. Or at least tried to. |
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You jumped T10s with toggles? Did your "T10s" have panels removed from the rear of the chute as well? |
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"My DD-214 is classified otherwise I would show it to you"
"Last two numbers of my MOS? My MOS is 18B, not B18" Anything that would be classified wouldnt go on a DD-214. Everyone has two numbers behind there MOS, mine was 11B10. Not sure what exactly they meant, think they had something to do with either rank or time in service, or a combination. Im sure someone knows for sure. |
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The last two numbers are skill level. I was 95B10 Military Police. I had a special skill identifier for Physical Security Specialist, but I'd have to look up the letter. I did receive an Airborne coin from an NCO that I cut a break. I never went to the school though. |
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11B1O = Infantry, E4 and below
11B2O = E5 11B3O = E6 11B1P = Airborne Infantry, E4 and below 11B2V = E5, Infantry, Ranger Qualified You get the drift... |
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We knew of an imposter (confirmed after he died) was a "disabled " vet in a wheelchair. (not really come to find out) scammed a check out of the VA (for years) and full medical forged a DD-214
The guy did this for years, even his wife didn't relize it for sure till he died. (she had caught him standing once ) He was full of shit and my dad allways said so I just ignored/humored him for the most part. Didn't really dawn on me that someone would go to that lenght. Me= 4 years active dury Army and 1 NG. 33S10 reclassed to 33Q10 and 12B in NG |
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After serving as a BM in the Navy i joined the NG as an 11B. They also awarded me with an 88L MOS. lol. My unit had to go and look that one up. Turns out it's a Watercraft Engineer. So if the NG eveer needs to install a TOW system on a 21 footer, i'm the man.
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Wanted to come back to this thread for I had no idea what you guys were on about. Its always been so easy to spot someone who never served for all you have to do is talk to them and they will always not know details about a fort or duty station.
I just saw the story on CNN about people faking medals. Quite frankly it never crossed my mind since that's all documented but apparently its really a big problem. How low can you go! BTW, I was the youngest SEAL in history once. Although I couldn't swim that well, it was overlooked in training for I was a great SEAL. I was so popular I had a nickname. They called me "Baby SEAL." I had to give it up though after a man in rain coat came after me with a little ball bat and a skinning knife. I liked being a SEAL but didn't care to be a coat. Tj |
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Yeah - that's exactly what they looked like! (the cut-out panels were in an "L" shape, I think - but it was a long time ago, so I could be wrong). I have no idea what the technical designation was, since this was jumping on my own time (not airborne training within the military). |
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I might be the one getting the education. I have no knowledge of foreign chutes. Our T10s were round, solid (no missing panels), and did not have toggles. We may both be correct.
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Funny it either changed over the years or was different by MOS for mine at ETS was 92B40 which the 40 stood for advanced which was in aprentease on my DD214 and my rank was only E4. Tj |
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I believe it must have, Tj. Someone else who served back when you did pointed out the same thing.
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I didn't remember my Boot Camp platoon number until I went and looked it up in my "yearbook". I don't remember any of those dates, mostly because when I got out, my contract was extended several times, so my original EAS date became meaningless... There is one date that no Marine will ever forget, though, and you never even mentioned it... |
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Corps B-day? |
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1) Proper exit, check body position and count 2) Check canopy, gain canopy control 3) Look out for other jumpers (look before you turn, turn right to avoid a collision, lower jumper has the right of way). 4) Turn into the wind and prepare to land. 5) Land. ETA: You cherry, the 5 jump chump Dope on a Rope pwnz j00! j/k |
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Thanks StickyT - so what I jumped with was probably either something like the T10c, or something like the MC1's that 82ndAbn described. Either way, it was a long time ago. Back when I was skinny and my knees worked better. |
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