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Link Posted: 9/9/2005 3:44:33 PM EDT
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It was accepted but that does not mean that we shooters did not fight....It meant we were outnumbered...simple math....there was not way we could have stopped it...If there had been an armed resistance by all or even a few to try to stop it ....We would have lost ALL our guns

Taffy




 That's why we need to act now....If we don't we'll be outnumbered just like you guys in Brit. later on 5 or 10 years from now, then it would be too late when it's really matter.....

 BE PROACTIVE....CALL/WRITE/E-MAIL NOW...


 



mojo
You have the numbers to make things happen over there. That will be your saving grace. I started a thread a few months back inquiring as to the laws in America regarding firearms compared to the UK. I was surprissed to find some laws in the US more strict in some instances and the same in others. Some Cities in the US have banned handguns as in the whole of the UK. Also we can have pistol grips/flash hiders/silencers/bayonet lugs/unlimited mags without much restrictions. OK we cannot have semi-auto above 22lr but I love shooting my AR even if it is "straight pull"

If i would be bold enough to give ALL of you guys some advice.

"Fight registration" because that is the begining of the end

We know
Taffy
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 3:46:40 PM EDT
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ANYONE who thinks that the confiscation is justified "under the circumstances" is a traitor to their country.  

All of the bullshit about the 2nd Amendment (legal battles, boycotts, collective v. individual right, "assault weapon" bans, import bans, ATF rulings, etc.) is now just that--BULLSHIT.  

Americans' rights under the Constitution have been taken at gunpoint by illegal orders and those acting under zero legal authority to do so.  

If anyone has any question about what will happen on a larger scale, they are stupid, or complicitous.  

It's time to draw up fucking sides right now and put it on record about where the patriots stand, and where the government lackies stand.  
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 3:54:06 PM EDT
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We used to be good at this

Wear 'em out

Congress

State officials are also accessable from the above link
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 3:54:39 PM EDT
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I know EXACTLY why CNN played the video........the media hates the current administration and will do anything to discredit them. In this case, I must side with CNN. For President George W Bush has done NOTHING to defend the RKBA..........yes.....he courted the NRA during the 2004 election. And now.......We see law-abiding home owners in New Orleans given the Waffen SS treatment on THEIR property........Congratulations Louisiana Governor!! You fucking bitch. And kudos to the crackhead Major of New Orleans. This is a sad time in American history. Not only am I ashamed of this being in American history books. I am moreover ashamed that socialist scumbags will use this to pass MORE socialist legislation. IF we don't react.......but of COURSE!! We'll just bitch and do nothing - thats what we do here right?



The worst part is it is such a non-item in the news that hardly anyone is aware.
All my co-workers had no clue. They were shocked when I showed them the footage.
This has been an eye opener for me, but I feel powerless to stop it. I have made the phone calls, sent the email, nobody seems to give a hoot.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 3:56:25 PM EDT
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I know EXACTLY why CNN played the video........the media hates the current administration and will do anything to discredit them. In this case, I must side with CNN. For President George W Bush has done NOTHING to defend the RKBA..........yes.....he courted the NRA during the 2004 election. And now.......We see law-abiding home owners in New Orleans given the Waffen SS treatment on THEIR property........Congratulations Louisiana Governor!! You fucking bitch. And kudos to the crackhead Major of New Orleans. This is a sad time in American history. Not only am I ashamed of this being in American history books. I am moreover ashamed that socialist scumbags will use this to pass MORE socialist legislation. IF we don't react.......but of COURSE!! We'll just bitch and do nothing - thats what we do here right?



The worst part is it is such a non-item in the news that hardly anyone is aware.
All my co-workers had no clue. They were shocked when I showed them the footage.
This has been an eye opener for me, but I feel powerless to stop it. I have made the phone calls, sent the email, nobody seems to give a hoot.



Same here man. I feel completely powerless, but motivated to do something.

I live in CA and sent my letters out to Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein (among others). Think they'll listen to me?
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 3:56:42 PM EDT
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Is anyone in NO resisting??
Just curious since their seem to always be so many keyboard commandos who claim the old, "Pry it from my cold dead fingers." cliche. Where are these guys when we need em??

I would expect even more of the die hards (pun intended) in the deep south. Not even one resister??? It would be great news coverage. Another Ruby Ridge victory for us prolly.
Great to have a martyr.



I'll be the first martyr you hear about buddy, Yeah I am from the south and yeah I will die for my rights because to REAL AMERICANS that shits not a "cliche" its all we have to seperate us from communitst and dictators. So if you ever wanna test us down here in the "Deep South" (pun intended) come on, you may walk over but youll crawl back.

"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."



Link Posted: 9/9/2005 3:57:06 PM EDT
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The worst part is it is such a non-item in the news that hardly anyone is aware.
All my co-workers had no clue. They were shocked when I showed them the footage.
This has been an eye opener for me, but I feel powerless to stop it. I have made the phone calls, sent the email, nobody seems to give a hoot.



Yup.

Morning (local) news was all about Football season, and how two of the players were from Louisiana and how Katrina would affect their concentration on this weekend's game.


Opiates for the masses...


Link Posted: 9/9/2005 3:57:41 PM EDT
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Any info on how to download that video from cnn and save it to your hard-drive?  The one with the attorney?  



Plus one ... that one needs to be saved.

Awsome that CNN even played that video.




Its a .asx file which is streamed from CNN.  I could only find the file in my cache and it is a .dat file.  You can put the following in a http:// and watch but that is as far as I could go.  

dynamic.cnn.com/apps/tp/video/us/2005/09/09/simon.katrina.new.orleans.forced.evacuations.cnn/video.ws.asx

I believe you need some other software to record what is shown in media player.  Google save .asx to disk and you can get some $ software I believe....

Link Posted: 9/9/2005 3:58:37 PM EDT
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Any info on how to download that video from cnn and save it to your hard-drive?  The one with the attorney?  


I saw him this morning on CNN.  Awesome.


'O'Dwyer', I think his name was.

I'll look him up...and send him a letter of congratulations for his stance.

(He would have been on the Lexington Green that April morning)

Eric The(Revolutionary)Hun



I asked about this 4 pages ago and was ignored.

Someone want to clue me in on how we can find this guy and give him a free Black Rifle?
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:03:51 PM EDT
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I'm gathering "evidence" as much as I can about this situation.

So far I have collected the CNN, ABC, and Fox videos, and several photos, and a couple newspaper articles.

CNN video:

mms://wmscnn.stream.aol.com/cnn/us/2005/09/09/simon.katrina.new.orleans.forced.evacuations.cnn.ws.wmv
You can find them at:

(DO NOT HOT LINK THIS!  ANYONE HOTLINKS IT AND THE VIDEOS GO AWAY!)

http://www.fast351.com/jbt/

Hopefully my account can handle it.  

Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:04:10 PM EDT
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Bottom line is that the 2nd Ammendment is completely useless if it can be revoked when it's needed most.



Exactly correct.... otherwise it is just about duck hunting.


The Popo's in NO have no legal basis for what they do, it is highly illegal, but this is a case of "might makes right".  

We only have the rights we TAKE.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:07:52 PM EDT
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That woman in the video riding on the bicycle owned that doofus when he asked her
about not having ac or power.
She then asked him "Have you ever gone camping?"

OWNED!
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:08:22 PM EDT
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The NRA will do nothing because if they criticize it will make Bush look bad. And they are in league with Bush.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:14:08 PM EDT
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Any info on how to download that video from cnn and save it to your hard-drive?  The one with the attorney?  


I saw him this morning on CNN.  Awesome.


'O'Dwyer', I think his name was.

I'll look him up...and send him a letter of congratulations for his stance.

(He would have been on the Lexington Green that April morning)

Eric The(Revolutionary)Hun



I asked about this 4 pages ago and was ignored.

Someone want to clue me in on how we can find this guy and give him a free Black Rifle?



Ashton O'Dwyer

http://www.courant.com/news/nationworld/hc-katrinawealthy0909.artsep09,0,6578115.story?coll=hc-headlines-nationworld

Zabasearch Odwyer in Louisiana and it will kick out 80 odd names, looks like this guy is the one born in '47 (guessing)



ETA: He's in the wealthy part of town, so not sure that he needs a BR, but a word of encouragement might be equally appreciated. (again, just guessing at contact info)

Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:15:21 PM EDT
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Where is the NRA And of all the people who have read this, I only counted about 20 who took the 5 minutes to write their congress critters.  Disappointing


Make that at least 21 people as I emailed all my state representatives with a heated letter.
This bullshit cannot stand.



make that 22 now, I just sent mine.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:23:25 PM EDT
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This is the email I am sending to fox news.

Mr. O'Reilly

You have asked for opinions so I am going to give you mine.
Part of the problem with our country is the lack of citizens taking responsibility for their own well being.
Having spent 18 years of my life working in Public Safety, Fire, EMS, and Police, I feel qualified in saying that the average citizen has no concept of personal responsibility.
I don’t know of a single community in our country that has a Fireman, Policeman, or Medic standing by for an individual. Public Safety responsibility is for the public as a whole not for an individual.
As citizens we are responsible for our own well being. In hurricane country that means having a plan to leave and all the basics to subsist should we decide to stay.

Black or white, rich or poor, it does not matter, if we are living in a part of our country where natural disasters occur it is our responsibility to look out for our selves.
Our Local, State and Federal Governments will arrive and they will help, but it is on us to stay in good shape until they arrive.

Finally a note to our Local, State and Federal help. It should not be part of your plan to disarm citizens that took the responsibility to protect their families and property while you were busy elsewhere. They helped you by taking care of themselves while you helped those that couldn’t. Don’t roll up after all the crime and violence is under control and take their means of self defense. This order from whoever issues it is an order of cowardice. I am glad to know that more then a few Law Enforcement Officers think the same way and refuse to take part in this travesty.

Sincerely,
Sean A. Burke
Panama City, Florida



Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:24:15 PM EDT
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I told GOA and they added this to their web site:

Gun Confiscations in New Orleans

GOA has received reports that the confiscation of legally-owned firearms has commenced in New Orleans.  In addition to denouncing this in the press, GOA will also be looking to draft legislation at both the state and federal level to preclude authorities from imposing ANY firearms restrictions during emergency response activities.

This is expected to be a lengthy and arduous process.  
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:27:47 PM EDT
[#18]
Ashton R. O'Dwyer, Jr. (A Professional Law Corp.)
Member

Lemle & Kelleher, L.L.P.
21st Floor, Pan-American Life Center, 601 Poydras Street
New Orleans, Louisiana 70130-6097
(Orleans Parish)
Telephone: 504-586-1241


Fax: 504-584-9142

Email: Send an Email

 
AV Peer Review Rated
 
Admitted: 1971, Louisiana

Law School: Loyola University, J.D., cum laude, 1971

College: Loyola University, B.B.A., 1969

Member: Louisiana State and American Bar Associations; Maritime Law Association.

Biography: Delta Theta Phi.

Born: New Orleans, Louisiana, October 23, 1947

ISLN: 904726761

 
Web Site: http://www.lemle.com

Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:30:14 PM EDT
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so who's gathering a group to go down there and stop this?
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:30:48 PM EDT
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Hey Fast351, THANK YOU!!!!!


I really appreciate you putting that up there.  I wanted to save that video to my hard-drive because I want people to see this disgusting display of bullshit.  



Thanks bro
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:33:23 PM EDT
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Sweet, I will be contacting Mr. O'Dwyer in the future to commend him and thank him for being such a great American and a man of principle.  
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:34:22 PM EDT
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Sweet, I will be contacting Mr. O'Dwyer in the future



Let's hope so.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:35:14 PM EDT
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I have written each of my elected representatives.  Sen. Boxer and Sen. Feinstein are likely a losing cause but it was good to throw it back in Feinstein's face that "confiscation" was not an issue.  Dana Rohrabacher is another story and I urged him to do his Constitutional duty or "for his own good" I would get him clipped.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:35:15 PM EDT
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This is bullshit! What right do these criminals have in taking OUR arms!

The right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED


Convict all these criminals who allowed the NG/LEO's to confiscate weapons

DO NOT VOTE FOR THEM

They should be tried and SENTENCED for THEIR crimes!
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:35:17 PM EDT
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Sweet, I will be contacting Mr. O'Dwyer in the future



Let's hope so.




+ 1
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:46:03 PM EDT
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2 questions.

1. Is this the first day of the Second American Revolution?

2. Can I start drilling my dreaded 3rd hole now or should I just pick up an abandoned one later on?

Seriously, I've been following this since yesterday and I was the last one IBTL on the last thread before VA gunnut locked her up at 6 this morning.

I have not heard one thing about this on local or the regular nation reports. I have called my local stations and asked the hard question of "why." They told me they haven't heard anything about it. Yeah, right....

I fired off emails to my people in AZ as I'm still a resident there. I only stay in OH to care for Gramps. It would be a lost cause to contact the people in OH anyway. They are RINO's here and you'd get more response from Hillary herself. At least she is true to her party.

Can we send shipments of rifles and ammo to the hold-outs?
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:46:06 PM EDT
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LESSON LEARNED: YOU CANNOT DEPEND ON THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO PROTECT YOU (AND PRESERVE YOUR CIVIL RIGHTS) DURING AN EMERGENCY.

WHEN THE SHIT HITS THE FAN, YOU AND YOURS ARE ON YOUR OWN. PERIOD.

I NOW KNOW THAT THE CONSTITUTION THAT THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON CAN BE THROWN OUT THE WINDOW AT THE DROP OF A DIME.

THERE BETTER BE LAWSUITS FOLLOWING THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE LOUISIANA JUDICIAL SYSTEM.

HOW WILL THE .GOV BULLSHIT THEIR WAY OUT OF IT THIS TIME?

REDICULOUS.  

` 45
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:49:39 PM EDT
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But rest assured NRA is monitoring this situation very closely and will address any activity by the government that unduly infringes upon the rights of lawful gun owners at the appropriate time. As we learn more, we will report to our members accordingly. In the interim, however, we join with all Americans in offering our thoughts, prayers, and assistance to the victims and survivors of this terrible natural disaster.


Great, just great. The almighty NRA, the matador of the infamous and all powerful Gun Lobby, the mere mention of whose name is alleged to cause tyrants and tyrant wannabes alike to wet themselves in fright, opens its powerful jaws and offers the following solution:

"Get on your knees and pray, gun owners."

Unfookingbelievable. Absolutely unfookingbelievable.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 4:54:40 PM EDT
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Letter to my senator Mel Martinez.



Not even a citizen of Louisiana I am apalled by the state of things there. The police are CONFISCATING weapons of citizens. This is illegal and violates the second amendment. The police are acting like NAZIS in the second world war.

Any violation of our endowed rights should never be accepted, under any condition. The elected officials in Louisiana and ANY other participating parties who are in any way involved with disarming the citizens of Louisiana should be convicted, tried, and sentenced for the CRIMES against their citizens.

In any government, the people should be in power. The people keep the government in check, this is why we seperated from England in the first place! Any curbing of OUR freedoms for temporary security is against anything ever taught by our history.

This butchering of our freedoms MUST stop or the people WILL stop it themselves. We will vote out ALL parties involved. Election year is coming up. Things BETTER change soon, or anybody violating our rights will be voted OUT of office. Push us enough and we WILL push back.

Your job, Senator Martinez, is to protect OUR rights as citizens, and if you see that the citizens of Louisiana are having their rights violated, do something about it!

The people are not blind to what is going on, neither are you, senator.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:06:35 PM EDT
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I just wrote Senator Martinez too!  And Senators Nelson and Frist.  Didn't bother writing Corrine Brown, as she's a lying, cheating used-car saleswoman of a politician.

Tomorrow, I am going to flood EVERYONE's phone, Or at least, NRAs, LA governors, both my reps, and Sen. Frist.

I have to admit, my first instinct was to paint up a truck with relief agency markings, throw in a couple crates of Beecher's Bibles, hide them under a bunch of tampons, water, and MREs, and then drive over to that neighborhood I saw on TV that the military invaded and looted.

-FGJ
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:07:58 PM EDT
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I just wrote Senator Martinez too!  And Senators Nelson and Frist.  Didn't bother writing Corrine Brown, as she's a lying, cheating used-car saleswoman of a politician.

Tomorrow, I am going to flood EVERYONE's phone, Or at least, NRAs, LA governors, both my reps, and Sen. Frist.

I have to admit, my first instinct was to paint up a truck with relief agency markings, throw in a couple crates of Beecher's Bibles, hide them under a bunch of tampons, water, and MREs, and then drive over to that neighborhood I saw on TV that the military invaded and looted.

-FGJ



Wish I lived close enough to join you on that drive!
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:12:42 PM EDT
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Therefore, if there is no gun registrations just say I am not going and I have no guns. Why would you just hand your gun over to the NOPD or NG.

JUST SAY NO.

Also what if the person wants to ship his guns by an FFL to another state where he will be residing or have a friend to take them.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:16:15 PM EDT
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Therefore, if there is no gun registrations just say I am not going and I have no guns. Why would you just hand your gun over to the NOPD or NG.

JUST SAY NO.

Also what if the person wants to ship his guns by an FFL to another state where he will be residing or have a friend to take them.



Are you completely oblivious to what is going on???

They are breaking into houses and removing you whether you want to or not!

If you have guns they take them.

If you use them, they shoot you.

Nazi's under the shadow of red, white, and blue.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:19:45 PM EDT
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so who's gathering a group to go down there and stop this?



I will go.

[email protected]
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:21:39 PM EDT
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Can anyone get the video portion of this link to work? All I get is audio.

www.clairewolfe.com/wolfesblog/NewOrleansGunConfiscationSmall.avi
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:21:50 PM EDT
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Therefore, if there is no gun registrations just say I am not going and I have no guns. Why would you just hand your gun over to the NOPD or NG.

JUST SAY NO.

Also what if the person wants to ship his guns by an FFL to another state where he will be residing or have a friend to take them.



Are you completely oblivious to what is going on???

They are breaking into houses and removing you whether you want to or not!

If you have guns they take them.

If you use them, they shoot you.

Nazi's under the shadow of red, white, and blue.




what are YOU going to do shoot an officer?? a soldier?? give me a break
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:25:04 PM EDT
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ar15 road trip?
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:25:04 PM EDT
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Therefore, if there is no gun registrations just say I am not going and I have no guns. Why would you just hand your gun over to the NOPD or NG.

JUST SAY NO.

Also what if the person wants to ship his guns by an FFL to another state where he will be residing or have a friend to take them.



Are you completely oblivious to what is going on???

They are breaking into houses and removing you whether you want to or not!

If you have guns they take them.

If you use them, they shoot you.

Nazi's under the shadow of red, white, and blue.




what are YOU going to do shoot an officer?? a soldier?? give me a break



So you would let them take you out of your own property. Surrender your guns AND your rights as an american citizen?!?

We live in America. If they want to stay, they can stay. If they want to use guns as defense, it is their right. No one should ever be forcefully removed from their property, even if it is smart to do so.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:32:39 PM EDT
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Therefore, if there is no gun registrations just say I am not going and I have no guns. Why would you just hand your gun over to the NOPD or NG.

JUST SAY NO.

Also what if the person wants to ship his guns by an FFL to another state where he will be residing or have a friend to take them.



Are you completely oblivious to what is going on???

They are breaking into houses and removing you whether you want to or not!

If you have guns they take them.

If you use them, they shoot you.

Nazi's under the shadow of red, white, and blue.




what are YOU going to do shoot an officer?? a soldier?? give me a break




All, why bother with this bullshit.  He's pushing your buttons and your responding.  
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:33:56 PM EDT
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Therefore, if there is no gun registrations just say I am not going and I have no guns. Why would you just hand your gun over to the NOPD or NG.

JUST SAY NO.

Also what if the person wants to ship his guns by an FFL to another state where he will be residing or have a friend to take them.



Are you completely oblivious to what is going on???

They are breaking into houses and removing you whether you want to or not!

If you have guns they take them.

If you use them, they shoot you.

Nazi's under the shadow of red, white, and blue.




what are YOU going to do shoot an officer?? a soldier?? give me a break



So you would let them take you out of your own property. Surrender your guns AND your rights as an american citizen?!?

We live in America. If they want to stay, they can stay. If they want to use guns as defense, it is their right. No one should ever be forcefully removed from their property, even if it is smart to do so.



i would throw a bitch fit and ya thats about it. under marshal law shit changes civil rights change. Im not going to shoot an officer sorry.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:36:25 PM EDT
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Therefore, if there is no gun registrations just say I am not going and I have no guns. Why would you just hand your gun over to the NOPD or NG.

JUST SAY NO.

Also what if the person wants to ship his guns by an FFL to another state where he will be residing or have a friend to take them.



Are you completely oblivious to what is going on???

They are breaking into houses and removing you whether you want to or not!

If you have guns they take them.

If you use them, they shoot you.

Nazi's under the shadow of red, white, and blue.




what are YOU going to do shoot an officer?? a soldier?? give me a break



So you would let them take you out of your own property. Surrender your guns AND your rights as an american citizen?!?

We live in America. If they want to stay, they can stay. If they want to use guns as defense, it is their right. No one should ever be forcefully removed from their property, even if it is smart to do so.



i would throw a bitch fit and ya thats about it. under marshal law shit changes civil rights change. Im not going to shoot an officer sorry.



thats all great, except for the fact that marshall law was not declared.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:39:43 PM EDT
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thats all great, except for the fact that marshall law was not declared.



Exactly.

Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:39:59 PM EDT
[#43]

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Can anyone get the video portion of this link to work? All I get is audio.

www.clairewolfe.com/wolfesblog/NewOrleansGunConfiscationSmall.avi



Audio and video work fine for me.

Windows Media Player
Version: 10.00.00.3646
Audio codec: MPEG Layer-3 Decoder
Video codec: DivX Decoder Filter
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:43:21 PM EDT
[#44]
Let's say Marshall Law was declared.  By it's nature the LE and Military can break down the door of my house (I've done nothing wrong now), handcuff me, sit my on the curb, ransack my house, find guns that I own legally, and walk off with them.  
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:48:34 PM EDT
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Let's say Marshall Law was declared.  By it's nature the LE and Military can break down the door of my house (I've done nothing wrong now), handcuff me, sit my on the curb, ransack my house, find guns that I own legally, and walk off with them.  



I think they can spay your dog and cat and take liberties with your daughter too.  Maybe force you to get a vasectomy.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:49:32 PM EDT
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Let's say Marshall Law was declared.  By it's nature the LE and Military can break down the door of my house (I've done nothing wrong now), handcuff me, sit my on the curb, ransack my house, find guns that I own legally, and walk off with them.  



I dont know the law too well. But probably not.

They shouldnt be doing this in the first place. If people want to stay, let them.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:50:06 PM EDT
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thats all great, except for the fact that marshall law was not declared.



Exactly.




Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:50:24 PM EDT
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Therefore, if there is no gun registrations just say I am not going and I have no guns. Why would you just hand your gun over to the NOPD or NG.

JUST SAY NO.

Also what if the person wants to ship his guns by an FFL to another state where he will be residing or have a friend to take them.



Are you completely oblivious to what is going on???

They are breaking into houses and removing you whether you want to or not!

If you have guns they take them.

If you use them, they shoot you.

Nazi's under the shadow of red, white, and blue.




what are YOU going to do shoot an officer?? a soldier?? give me a break



So you would let them take you out of your own property. Surrender your guns AND your rights as an american citizen?!?

We live in America. If they want to stay, they can stay. If they want to use guns as defense, it is their right. No one should ever be forcefully removed from their property, even if it is smart to do so.



i would throw a bitch fit and ya thats about it. under marshal law shit changes civil rights change. Im not going to shoot an officer sorry.



thats all great, except for the fact that marshall law was not declared.



Hate to be a spelling NAZI, but it's MARTIAL Law, not Marshall...they make guitar amps!
I've been seeing that all week and it's buggin' the FUCK out of me!

Anyway, on the original post, hiding them or lying is an option, but how could ANYONE allow the constitution to be butt-fucked in their presence. It's up to YOU to make a scene and be a martyr when this shit happens.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:50:44 PM EDT
[#49]
I get about 100 spam emails a day.
I delete them as fast as they come in.

Does anyone really expect congressmen, representatives, etc. will
do anything less?  

Is everyone so naïve as to think these elected officials give a shit what
gun owners think, especially right now?

I’m smart enough to know I’m not smart enough to have an answer.

I’m not a member of the NRA.  
My irate letters in the past have been directed towards them over things
like their blatant disregard for the citizens of Cook County Illinois.
I moved out of Illinois because the State is bad and getting worse,
and the NRA was worthless.  The only response I got was that
the NRA was continuing to work towards blah blah blah.  BS.

Maybe the US needs a new organization.
Something that protected all guns rights, for all firearms,
for all people, in every state, all the time.  

Any ideas?
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 5:54:18 PM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:
I get about 100 spam emails a day.
I delete them as fast as they come in.

Does anyone really expect congressmen, representatives, etc. will
do anything less?  

Is everyone so naïve as to think these elected officials give a shit what
gun owners think, especially right now?

I’m smart enough to know I’m not smart enough to have an answer.

I’m not a member of the NRA.  
My irate letters in the past have been directed towards them over things
like their blatant disregard for the citizens of Cook County Illinois.
I moved out of Illinois because the State is bad and getting worse,
and the NRA was worthless.  The only response I got was that
the NRA was continuing to work towards blah blah blah.  BS.

Maybe the US needs a new organization.
Something that protected all guns rights, for all firearms,
for all people, in every state, all the time.  

Any ideas?



Uhhh...Confederate States of Americ... Damn, I googled it and it was already TAKEN...
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