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Grendel SBR Group Buy Thread (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 8/8/2016 2:01:36 PM EDT
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Hello, it is official Grendel SBR Group Buy from Faxon Barrels, below is the final details.
Now, these will be shipped directly to me in bulk and I will ship out to the interested parties. We need an order of 50 min to get this to Faxon. I need payment in full to start production. Cost is 207.00 each, shipping is free and will be priority mail with confirmation, unless in AK or HI, then increased shipping by 10 dollars..All interested parties may message me and contact information will be provided. I will also have a doc for you to sign for the order. All sales are final due to this being a custom group order. I will keep this site up to date with information on timing and the current number ordered. Payment is via cashier's or personal check. • Barrel length: 12.5 • Barrel profile: Medium. • Carbine gas system • Gas-block diameter: 0.750" • Gas-port diameter: 0.078" • Muzzle threads: 5/8 x 24 • 11-degree target crown • Barrel steel: 4150 CMV • Inside finish: QPQ nitride • Outside finish: QPQ nitride • 6.5 Grendel, SAAMI chamber, headspaced for 0.136" boltface depth • 5R-groove • Rifling twist: 1:7.5 • M4-style barrel extension • Magnetic particle inspected thanks all and lets get new ones for after the election. Thanks |
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In for the three.
Email received and funds will go out shortly. Thanks to Mnwhiskeyman and Faxon. Looking forward to these. |
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Originally Posted By ed4:
I guess I missed the original thread with the information in it. Is this just a barrel to build a SBR or is it an upper? Thanks and sorry for my ignorance. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_121/699246_6_5_Grendel_SBR.html |
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Originally Posted By DenverDave:
Is "6.5 Grendel, SAAMI chamber, headspaced for 0.136" boltface depth" the same as "Grendel Type 1" Chambering? Uses 7.62/39 Bolt like BHW .264 LBC? No. The wording around Grendel and .264LBC chambers is often confusing. This group buy barrel uses a dedicated Grendel bolt with 0.136" boltface depth, whereas a 7.62x39 bolt uses a 0.125" boltface depth. The reason you're seeing "Grendel I" in this thread is to differentiate from "Grendel II" which is an odd non-SAAMI version of Grendel used by Liberty Barrels/Brownells/MidwayUSA. This is different from talking about Grendel TYPE 1 and TYPE 2, which is language made up by BHW to denote the difference between a chamber headspaced for a 7.62x39 bolt (TYPE 1) and a chamber headspaced for a 0.136" boltface depth bolt (TYPE 2). Yep. That just happened. 
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**************************************************************************************** Attention all: There is a change in the rifle twist rate. It will be 1/8. Sorry but the 1/7.5 is a custom and is not available at this time. If anyone sent payment and form already and does not wish to proceed let me know and I will send it back to you no sweat. I am sorry for any hiccup or misunderstanding this might have caused. Thanks **************************************************************************************** **************************************************************************************** |
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Originally Posted By Mnwhiskeyman:
**************************************************************************************** **************************************************************************************** Attention all: There is a change in the rifle twist rate. It will be 1/8. Sorry but the 1/7.5 is a custom and is not available at this time. If anyone sent payment and form already and does not wish to proceed let me know and I will send it back to you no sweat. I am sorry for any hiccup or misunderstanding this might have caused. Thanks **************************************************************************************** **************************************************************************************** We sincerely apologies for any confusion on the rifling spec. The 1/8 twist will be good to go for stabilization on all loads. |
I am the Director at Faxon Firearms
www.faxonfirearms.com
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Ask us any questions or drop me an e-mail: [email protected]
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Instagram: @faxonfirearms
Ask us any questions or drop me an e-mail: [email protected]
Let's see if GD is interested
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Originally Posted By xxprince:
Let's see if GD is interested
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1910736_.html&page=1 Getting some traffic atleast. |
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I'm interested.
But not sure about the quality vs. say a Alexander Arms or a JP Precision. Faxon, have you tested anyone of these barrels? What type of groups are you getting with say Hornady SST or AMAX in 123gr? also, velocity.....what can I expect out of an 12.5? |
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Originally Posted By RANGER_556:
I'm interested. But not sure about the quality vs. say a Alexander Arms or a JP Precision. Faxon, have you tested anyone of these barrels? What type of groups are you getting with say Hornady SST or AMAX in 123gr? also, velocity.....what can I expect out of an 12.5? Originally Posted By RANGER_556:
I'm interested. But not sure about the quality vs. say a Alexander Arms or a JP Precision. Faxon, have you tested anyone of these barrels? What type of groups are you getting with say Hornady SST or AMAX in 123gr? also, velocity.....what can I expect out of an 12.5? This is data posted by another user: Dave Fortier posted this on ARF.COM a couple years ago. Maybe someone else will post their results. Alexander Arms 20 inch GDMR 6.5mm Grendel Muzzle Velocity (fps) Alexander Arms 100 grain Berger OTM 2,847 Alexander Arms 120 grain Barnes TSX 2,551 Alexander Arms 120 grain Nosler BT 2,600 Wolf 120 grain MPT 2,541 Alexander Arms 123 grain Lapua Scenar 2,627 Hornady 123 grain A-MAX 2,582 Alexander Arms 129 grain Hornady SST 2,450 Alexander Arms 130 grain Swift Scirocco II 2,400 Alexander Arms 16 inch Mid-Length carbine 6.5mm Grendel Muzzle Velocity (fps) Alexander Arms 100 grain Berger OTM 2,723 Alexander Arms 120 grain Barnes TSX 2,494 Alexander Arms 120 grain Nosler BT 2,535 Wolf 120 grain MPT 2,445 Alexander Arms 123 grain Lapua Scenar 2,523 Hornady 123 grain A-MAX 2,463 Velocities are averages of five shots measured on an Oehler 35P chronograph 12 feet from the muzzle at an ambient temperature of 90 degrees F at 1030 feet above Sea Level. Alexander Arms 12.5 inch 6.5mm Grendel Alexander Arms 100 grain Berger OTM 2470 Alexander Arms 123 grain Scenar OTM 2330 Velocity figures are 10 shot averages recorded on an Oehler 35P placed 12 feet from the muzzle 1,030 feet above Sea Level at an ambient temperature of 30 degrees F. *Note the low temps with the 12.5 inch gun And this was posted by Faxon: Originally Posted By RogueNathan:
Originally Posted By Mnwhiskeyman:
***************************************************************************************************** ***************************************************************************************************** Specs are official. All sales are final due to this being a custom group order. I will keep this site up to date with information on timing and the current number ordered. Payment is via cashier's or Please know that we absolutely will stand behind the work. If there is an issue with any part of workmanship, myself and the Faxon team will ensure that it corrected, all the way to manufacturing new barrels (if needed). I don't expect there to be any issues (were really good at barrels), but know that "sales are final" does not mean "as delivered quality is final.". |
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Small question.....
Why are we sending money to a forum member instead of Faxon? When other companies have done group buys they put out the feelers then people go to the website and pay at the website. If this thing falls through.....what's my recourse? What's my guarantee I'll get a refund? Faxon....why aren't you running this group buy? Seems like enough interest you should run this product right from your website. I'd be willing to bet you get as many or more sales that way. Not trying to "thread stomp" just wondering why Faxon isn't doing this directly (accepting payment that is) |
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Originally Posted By RANGER_556: Small question..... Why are we sending money to a forum member instead of Faxon? When other companies have done group buys they put out the feelers then people go to the website and pay at the website. If this thing falls through.....what's my recourse? What's my guarantee I'll get a refund? Faxon....why aren't you running this group buy? Seems like enough interest you should run this product right from your website. I'd be willing to bet you get as many or more sales that way. Not trying to "thread stomp" just wondering why Faxon isn't doing this directly (accepting payment that is) |
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Originally Posted By RANGER_556:
Small question..... Why are we sending money to a forum member instead of Faxon? When other companies have done group buys they put out the feelers then people go to the website and pay at the website. If this thing falls through.....what's my recourse? What's my guarantee I'll get a refund? Faxon....why aren't you running this group buy? Seems like enough interest you should run this product right from your website. I'd be willing to bet you get as many or more sales that way. Not trying to "thread stomp" just wondering why Faxon isn't doing this directly (accepting payment that is) Some good questions, which I hope we can answer in detail. A stated goal of Faxon is NOT to be just production quantities. We love to work the semi-custom and keep runs accessible to OEMs at just 50 units. Its something that most shops cannot do. These "group buys" are falling into this goal. 1. What the forum member is setting up is a custom barrel. Faxon has not set our standard retail offerings and this gives users the option to create niche barrels that we would not otherwise do in a production environment. 2. When the part is custom to a specific user, they are the best person to manage the buyers. Having us handle questions when we do not understand the creator's intent is a recipie for unhappy customers. 3. You have our guarantee that the barrel will perform to our specifications and the print created by the organizer. If it does not, we make it right. Its that simple. We don't care who you paid, we make it right. 4. See above. For example, the barrel created by the 65Grendel forum was not a profile we would offer, its what they wanted. Custom group buys give users significantly more flexibility. Now, if we are launching a new product and want pre-orders, we will certainly organize this ourselves. |
I am the Director at Faxon Firearms
www.faxonfirearms.com
Instagram: @faxonfirearms
Ask us any questions or drop me an e-mail: [email protected]
www.faxonfirearms.com
Instagram: @faxonfirearms
Ask us any questions or drop me an e-mail: [email protected]
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Originally Posted By RogueNathan: Some good questions, which I hope we can answer in detail. A stated goal of Faxon is NOT to be just production quantities. We love to work the semi-custom and keep runs accessible to OEMs at just 50 units. Its something that most shops cannot do. These "group buys" are falling into this goal. 1. What the forum member is setting up is a custom barrel. Faxon has not set our standard retail offerings and this gives users the option to create niche barrels that we would not otherwise do in a production environment. 2. When the part is custom to a specific user, they are the best person to manage the buyers. Having us handle questions when we do not understand the creator's intent is a recipie for unhappy customers. 3. You have our guarantee that the barrel will perform to our specifications and the print created by the organizer. If it does not, we make it right. Its that simple. We don't care who you paid, we make it right. 4. See above. For example, the barrel created by the 65Grendel forum was not a profile we would offer, its what they wanted. Custom group buys give users significantly more flexibility. Now, if we are launching a new product and want pre-orders, we will certainly organize this ourselves. Originally Posted By RogueNathan: Originally Posted By RANGER_556: Small question..... Why are we sending money to a forum member instead of Faxon? When other companies have done group buys they put out the feelers then people go to the website and pay at the website. If this thing falls through.....what's my recourse? What's my guarantee I'll get a refund? Faxon....why aren't you running this group buy? Seems like enough interest you should run this product right from your website. I'd be willing to bet you get as many or more sales that way. Not trying to "thread stomp" just wondering why Faxon isn't doing this directly (accepting payment that is) Some good questions, which I hope we can answer in detail. A stated goal of Faxon is NOT to be just production quantities. We love to work the semi-custom and keep runs accessible to OEMs at just 50 units. Its something that most shops cannot do. These "group buys" are falling into this goal. 1. What the forum member is setting up is a custom barrel. Faxon has not set our standard retail offerings and this gives users the option to create niche barrels that we would not otherwise do in a production environment. 2. When the part is custom to a specific user, they are the best person to manage the buyers. Having us handle questions when we do not understand the creator's intent is a recipie for unhappy customers. 3. You have our guarantee that the barrel will perform to our specifications and the print created by the organizer. If it does not, we make it right. Its that simple. We don't care who you paid, we make it right. 4. See above. For example, the barrel created by the 65Grendel forum was not a profile we would offer, its what they wanted. Custom group buys give users significantly more flexibility. Now, if we are launching a new product and want pre-orders, we will certainly organize this ourselves. Edit: Looks like OP bought a membership. |
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Originally Posted By mitsuman47:
I don't think anyone is questioning the quality of your company's products. Its that the group buy (and the funds associated with it) are being handled by a random person. No disrespect to the OP. I commend him on getting this started. But if we pay our money to the OP, then not enough orders are placed and the deal falls through, how do I know I'm getting my money back? He isn't an industry partner, a dealer, a team member, and doesn't have any feedback from the EE. Edit: Looks like OP bought a membership. Originally Posted By mitsuman47:
Originally Posted By RogueNathan:
Originally Posted By RANGER_556:
Small question..... Why are we sending money to a forum member instead of Faxon? When other companies have done group buys they put out the feelers then people go to the website and pay at the website. If this thing falls through.....what's my recourse? What's my guarantee I'll get a refund? Faxon....why aren't you running this group buy? Seems like enough interest you should run this product right from your website. I'd be willing to bet you get as many or more sales that way. Not trying to "thread stomp" just wondering why Faxon isn't doing this directly (accepting payment that is) Some good questions, which I hope we can answer in detail. A stated goal of Faxon is NOT to be just production quantities. We love to work the semi-custom and keep runs accessible to OEMs at just 50 units. Its something that most shops cannot do. These "group buys" are falling into this goal. 1. What the forum member is setting up is a custom barrel. Faxon has not set our standard retail offerings and this gives users the option to create niche barrels that we would not otherwise do in a production environment. 2. When the part is custom to a specific user, they are the best person to manage the buyers. Having us handle questions when we do not understand the creator's intent is a recipie for unhappy customers. 3. You have our guarantee that the barrel will perform to our specifications and the print created by the organizer. If it does not, we make it right. Its that simple. We don't care who you paid, we make it right. 4. See above. For example, the barrel created by the 65Grendel forum was not a profile we would offer, its what they wanted. Custom group buys give users significantly more flexibility. Now, if we are launching a new product and want pre-orders, we will certainly organize this ourselves. Edit: Looks like OP bought a membership. Thanks for the reply Nathan,I look forward to owning a Faxon barrel. I took the leap because of Strikers blessing, I assumed the OP convinced him he doesn't plan to rob the membership or if he does at least hopefully Staff has his real name and address  
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Originally Posted By henschman:
I'd like more info on the barrel profile. Do you have a drawing, or at least the diameter before and after the gas block? It's going to be tubular with holes on both ends
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This is a sweetheart deal...I wish I was not so heavily invested in my 6.8
Originally Posted By RogueNathan:
We sincerely apologies for any confusion on the rifling spec. The 1/8 twist will be good to go for stabilization on all loads. Originally Posted By RogueNathan:
Originally Posted By Mnwhiskeyman:
**************************************************************************************** **************************************************************************************** Attention all: There is a change in the rifle twist rate. It will be 1/8. Sorry but the 1/7.5 is a custom and is not available at this time. If anyone sent payment and form already and does not wish to proceed let me know and I will send it back to you no sweat. I am sorry for any hiccup or misunderstanding this might have caused. Thanks **************************************************************************************** **************************************************************************************** We sincerely apologies for any confusion on the rifling spec. The 1/8 twist will be good to go for stabilization on all loads. |
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From the GD version of this thread:
Originally Posted By Mnwhiskeyman:
******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************* gentlemen great news. John the head of the 6.5Grendel.com site will be taking this over. Below is the link to his order. This will speed up the process. Some differences are listed there but are very minor. Price is lower too. 155+10 flat shipping for a total of 165. which is awesome. It is a 12inch not a 12.5 Please check the link and let me know if you want to continue on this group buy or the one with the Grendel. My hope is everyone will be ok with the 6.5Grendel.com one, I will refund any difference in price to those whom have already paid, your forms will go to John directly from me so you do not need to fill out another form. If anyone decides to proceed with the 6.5 Grendel.com one, John will be handling this from this time forward. If you do not want to continue because you wanted the 12.5 inch barrel, let me know and I will get you a check out. either way this is the best way to get the order in and get it done so we can get shooting. I want two, one I can use on stupid 300yard f class just for giggles. Let me know if you guys need anything. thanks all. http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?12700-Faxon-12-quot-6.5-Grendel-Group-Buy-155. ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** |