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10/30/2020 2:42:12 PM
Posted: 11/20/2020 8:12:33 PM EST
Going to buy my first pvs-14 threw nightvisionguys.com I have linked a few below I’d like you to tell me which you would choose, my budget is 2700 max

https://www.nightvisionguys.com/pvs-14be-nv-monocular-kit-gen-2-white-phosphor-with-manual-gain




https://www.nightvisionguys.com/nvg-pvs-14-night-vision-monocular-gen-3-auto-gated-made-in-usa



https://www.nightvisionguys.com/agm-pvs-14-3al3-night-vision-monocular-gen-3-auto-gated-level-3


This one is 2900 I tossed it in just for giggles


https://www.nightvisionguys.com/nvg-pvs-14-6015-gen-3-mg-night-vision-monocular
Link Posted: 11/20/2020 8:17:45 PM EST
None of them really.

NightVisionGuys uses AGM housings and optics, which are very subpar - especially the glass. Bad edge distortion.
Link Posted: 11/20/2020 8:28:44 PM EST
Ok so any recommendations sub 3k ??
Link Posted: 11/20/2020 8:36:45 PM EST
Talk to Robert at JRH enterprises.
Hell of a nice guy!
He usually gives arfcom discounts too.
https://www.jrhenterprises.com/Night-Vision_c3.htm
Link Posted: 11/20/2020 8:45:34 PM EST
Wait for TNVC sale.

Link Posted: 11/20/2020 9:03:46 PM EST
They do t take PayPal so I cannot buy from them
Link Posted: 11/20/2020 9:06:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/20/2020 9:06:35 PM EST by Synyster06Gates]
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Most places really don't. They're not exactly 2A friendly.

That being said, just know if you do proceed with NVG you WILL be getting subpar housings, optics, and after purchase support. Felix was super quick to answer inquiries before I bought, but he was a ghost afterwards. I've had two of their PVS14 builds. The first one over a year ago was great. The second one that I recently got was absolute garbage and built with all AGM.
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Originally Posted By Synyster06Gates:


Most places really don't. They're not exactly 2A friendly.

That being said, just know if you do proceed with NVG you WILL be getting subpar housings, optics, and after purchase support. Felix was super quick to answer inquiries before I bought, but he was a ghost afterwards. I've had two of their PVS14 builds. The first one over a year ago was great. The second one that I recently got was absolute garbage and built with all AGM.
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Originally Posted By Small_white_D:
They do t take PayPal so I cannot buy from them


Most places really don't. They're not exactly 2A friendly.

That being said, just know if you do proceed with NVG you WILL be getting subpar housings, optics, and after purchase support. Felix was super quick to answer inquiries before I bought, but he was a ghost afterwards. I've had two of their PVS14 builds. The first one over a year ago was great. The second one that I recently got was absolute garbage and built with all AGM.



Finally learned how to quote, is agm us built ? This says us parts 🤷🏻‍♂️ Secondly they offer a return policy so I guess I could return it if it’s not nice and 3ed the place you linked me to stated their unit for 2700 had sub par tubes for 2700 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Originally Posted By Synyster06Gates:


Most places really don't. They're not exactly 2A friendly.

That being said, just know if you do proceed with NVG you WILL be getting subpar housings, optics, and after purchase support. Felix was super quick to answer inquiries before I bought, but he was a ghost afterwards. I've had two of their PVS14 builds. The first one over a year ago was great. The second one that I recently got was absolute garbage and built with all AGM.
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Originally Posted By Small_white_D:
They do t take PayPal so I cannot buy from them


Most places really don't. They're not exactly 2A friendly.

That being said, just know if you do proceed with NVG you WILL be getting subpar housings, optics, and after purchase support. Felix was super quick to answer inquiries before I bought, but he was a ghost afterwards. I've had two of their PVS14 builds. The first one over a year ago was great. The second one that I recently got was absolute garbage and built with all AGM.




https://www.jrhenterprises.com/PVS14-XLS-WHITE-phosphor-night-vision-monocular-autogated-WPXLS14.htm
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That's what they're using at NVG too - Elbit XLS tubes. You can get great tubes but run the risk of maybe getting lower spec or maybe getting blems. I've had multiple XLS tubes and they were all good to go
Link Posted: 11/20/2020 9:59:36 PM EST
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That's what they're using at NVG too - Elbit XLS tubes. You can get great tubes but run the risk of maybe getting lower spec or maybe getting blems. I've had multiple XLS tubes and they were all good to go
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https://www.jrhenterprises.com/PVS14-XLS-WHITE-phosphor-night-vision-monocular-autogated-WPXLS14.htm


That's what they're using at NVG too - Elbit XLS tubes. You can get great tubes but run the risk of maybe getting lower spec or maybe getting blems. I've had multiple XLS tubes and they were all good to go



Well it’s my first unit so fingers crossed
Link Posted: 11/20/2020 10:26:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/20/2020 10:47:02 PM EST by FoxValleyTacDriver]
Steele will let you hand pick XLS tubes. I think it's around $2400? For the GP.

XLS is the lowest rating elbit offers. Every tube will either have a spec that failed to meet the next rating, or a blem that dropped it out. Mine has a small zone 3 blem. So you can get lucky, or unlucky. Its a gamble. Vendors that let you hand select will let you pick what aspects are important.

Specs of mine were

SNR: 30.5
Res: 64
Halo: .84
Ebi: .68
FOM: 1952
PC: 2660

Attachment Attached File


Otherwise JRH/TNVC/Steele all have sub 3k 14's that should be good for you. There's a few good vendors to choose from. Look for black friday deals.

Link Posted: 11/20/2020 10:56:09 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/21/2020 2:12:40 AM EST
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Originally Posted By TNVC:

No Sir and never will with direct anti-gun everything with them. Sorry.
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Originally Posted By Small_white_D:
They do t take PayPal so I cannot buy from them

No Sir and never will with direct anti-gun everything with them. Sorry.



No biggie
Link Posted: 11/21/2020 2:46:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/21/2020 2:49:22 AM EST by TexasSurfNTurf]
NVG - seems serviceable
but you wont have the best glass
MOST of their units do not come with data sheets so you will never really know what you actually have
warranty is only a few years if i remember correctly
and lack of success actually getting a hold of the company rep doesn't leave confidence in after purchase support

also with the use of Apache glass some accessories are not compatible from what i have read here , i do know the demist sheild and eye cup cannot be installed at the same time , actually broke to eye cup retainer ring trying to get it to fit.  it was my first as well  

Link Posted: 11/21/2020 2:58:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By thorn653:
Talk to Robert at JRH enterprises.
Hell of a nice guy!
He usually gives arfcom discounts too.
https://www.jrhenterprises.com/Night-Vision_c3.htm
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this is what i would recommend
having purchased a $2500 gen 3 pvs 14 with L3 tube from NVG i would go with a vendor with good support and communication and a presence on this forum
they seem to have units in stock within your price range and you will know exactly what you have

TNVC has treated me well with helmet and accessories but i don't think they have anything currently in stock in that range , have a look as well
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Originally Posted By thorn653:
Talk to Robert at JRH enterprises.
Hell of a nice guy!
He usually gives arfcom discounts too.
https://www.jrhenterprises.com/Night-Vision_c3.htm
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Call JRH.
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Call JRH.
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Originally Posted By thorn653:
Talk to Robert at JRH enterprises.
Hell of a nice guy!
He usually gives arfcom discounts too.
https://www.jrhenterprises.com/Night-Vision_c3.htm




Call JRH.



I need to pay with PayPal so I cannot order from them
Link Posted: 11/21/2020 3:26:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TexasSurfNTurf:
NVG - seems serviceable
but you wont have the best glass
MOST of their units do not come with data sheets so you will never really know what you actually have
warranty is only a few years if i remember correctly
and lack of success actually getting a hold of the company rep doesn't leave confidence in after purchase support

also with the use of Apache glass some accessories are not compatible from what i have read here , i do know the demist sheild and eye cup cannot be installed at the same time , actually broke to eye cup retainer ring trying to get it to fit.  it was my first as well  

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Actually that one for 2999 does come with tube spec sheet
Link Posted: 11/21/2020 3:32:07 PM EST
Respectfully, you need to not pick a $2500 NVG vendor based on who will take paypal.  You need to buy your first NVG from a reputable source that will shoot you straight on what you need and not oversell you.  A company that will be there for you before and after the sale and who has the longevity to be there for the long term.

For me, that company more often than not is TNVC.
Link Posted: 11/21/2020 3:37:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TDunn:
Respectfully, you need to not pick a $2500 NVG vendor based on who will take paypal.  You need to buy your first NVG from a reputable source that will shoot you straight on what you need and not oversell you.  A company that will be there for you before and after the sale and who has the longevity to be there for the long term.

For me, that company more often than not is TNVC.
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👍
Link Posted: 11/21/2020 4:30:11 PM EST
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Actually that one for 2999 does come with tube spec sheet
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And still subpar materials, service, and warranty. Don't get me wrong, I understand wanting to use paypal, but this is a situation where you'll regret it.
Link Posted: 11/21/2020 5:05:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TDunn:
Respectfully, you need to not pick a $2500 NVG vendor based on who will take paypal.  You need to buy your first NVG from a reputable source that will shoot you straight on what you need and not oversell you.  A company that will be there for you before and after the sale and who has the longevity to be there for the long term.

For me, that company more often than not is TNVC.
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This is excellent advice
Link Posted: 11/21/2020 5:33:00 PM EST
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And still subpar materials, service, and warranty. Don't get me wrong, I understand wanting to use paypal, but this is a situation where you'll regret it.
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Originally Posted By Small_white_D:



Actually that one for 2999 does come with tube spec sheet


And still subpar materials, service, and warranty. Don't get me wrong, I understand wanting to use paypal, but this is a situation where you'll regret it.



Well if you can find me a device that is 3k or under that’s better with white phosphor and they take PayPal and don’t have a 14+ week lead time I am all ears
Link Posted: 11/21/2020 5:36:22 PM EST
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Well if you can find me a device that is 3k or under that’s better with white phosphor and they take PayPal and don’t have a 14+ week lead time I am all ears
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Look you can do what you want. All I'm saying is that you're going to get a shitty unit. If you want to spend your money there and are okay with that just because they take paypal, by all means go ahead. The NV industry is a niche industry. Demand is high, supply is low. Nearly every REPUTABLE dealer selling quality goods are back ordered. There's a reason NVG isn't one of them.
Link Posted: 11/21/2020 5:50:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Synyster06Gates:


Look you can do what you want. All I'm saying is that you're going to get a shitty unit. If you want to spend your money there and are okay with that just because they take paypal, by all means go ahead. The NV industry is a niche industry. Demand is high, supply is low. Nearly every REPUTABLE dealer selling quality goods are back ordered. There's a reason NVG isn't one of them.
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All I am saying is if you know of a place hook me up
Link Posted: 11/22/2020 12:00:58 AM EST
I swear OP is a troll or something, he had some thread in General Discussion that was a bit borderline troll as well. Just look at his username by the way. I think he just wants to waste our time.
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All I am saying is if you know of a place hook me up
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Just curious, but what is the PayPal hangup? If it is for the buyer protections, AMEX, Discover, and many other credit card companies offer excellent buyer protection services.
Link Posted: 11/22/2020 1:01:18 PM EST
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Just curious, but what is the PayPal hangup? If it is for the buyer protections, AMEX, Discover, and many other credit card companies offer excellent buyer protection services.
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My guess is 0% interest on $100+ purchases
Link Posted: 11/22/2020 1:19:30 PM EST
LOL, OP is a 20er and choosing an NVG based on who takes fucking PP.
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