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With all the stuff going on in GD lately.....we have a M1/M1A picture thread, but can I start one in here for carbines? My favorite gun, really....so light and handy, and the history of their production fascinates me.
Wish I had a better quality shot of this but it was taken pre-digital cameras. Need to do another "gun on the stump" shot sometime with it and a better camera (if I can find another stump, this one's long gone). ![]() It's an Underwood with a rather interesting serial number ending in 4444. Arlington Ordnance import (didn't notice that when I bought it 20 years ago, the mark is so small it looked like a scratch on the underside of the barrel) so it probably came back from Korea. ![]() |
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Carbines are just wonderful !!
I need to go shoot ours sometime soon. It's a 1943 Inland that we hand picked at the CMP South Store years ago. Wish I'd bought two. I'll toss up a pic from my phone later today. |
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I agree with you guys, they're wonderful! I think they're the quintessential self-defense rifle being light and handy. I keep two of my five in the house with a half-dozen 15 round magazines.
I have a four day weekend he'd, just got in from the shop loading a few more .30 Carbines and intend to do some shooting between now and Wednesday. I got some different powder in and want to chronograph some new loads. So, I'll try to get a family picture! |
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Originally Posted By ggibbs: I agree with you guys, they're wonderful! I think they're the quintessential self-defense rifle being light and handy. I keep two of my five in the house with a half-dozen 15 round magazines. I have a four day weekend he'd, just got in from the shop loading a few more .30 Carbines and intend to do some shooting between now and Wednesday. I got some different powder in and want to chronograph some new loads. So, I'll try to get a family picture! View Quote Your killing me, I want to hit the range with the Howa and Plainfield but work slammed me with mandatory Saturdays for the foreseeable future and I won't get the time. Maybe next month |
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Originally Posted By fxntime: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32224/IMG_0821__1__JPG-1781262.JPG 2 Winchesters, an IBM and a Underwood. 1. Underwood 2. Winchester 3 Winchester. 4. IBM. View Quote Nice. I wish I had the original stocks for my Inlands but they both came with post war birch stocks. |
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Originally Posted By fxntime: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32224/IMG_0821__1__JPG-1781262.JPG 2 Winchesters, an IBM and a Underwood. 1. Underwood 2. Winchester 3 Winchester. 4. IBM. View Quote Even though they were all rebuilds, I still kick myself for not buying several carbines when CMP had them available. Or even for not buying more at gunshows when they weren't $1000+ like they are today. Granted, I didn't grow up in the days of the $29.95 mail order carbine like some folks (even though, adjusted for inflation, that was still a decent chunk of change in those days). |
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Originally Posted By Grendel_J: Interesting to see your #1 and #4 with the later adjustable rear sight, but without the bayonet lug barrel band. I don't see too many like that anymore. My Grandpa had one that was brought back from Europe in that condition, as well. Guess the sights were replaced in the field/by unit armorers without going through the full rebuild process? (His still has the pushbutton mag release, too. Only "upgrade" is the rear sight.) Even though they were all rebuilds, I still kick myself for not buying several carbines when CMP had them available. Or even for not buying more at gunshows when they weren't $1000+ like they are today. Granted, I didn't grow up in the days of the $29.95 mail order carbine like some folks (even though, adjusted for inflation, that was still a decent chunk of change in those days). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Grendel_J: Originally Posted By fxntime: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32224/IMG_0821__1__JPG-1781262.JPG 2 Winchesters, an IBM and a Underwood. 1. Underwood 2. Winchester 3 Winchester. 4. IBM. Even though they were all rebuilds, I still kick myself for not buying several carbines when CMP had them available. Or even for not buying more at gunshows when they weren't $1000+ like they are today. Granted, I didn't grow up in the days of the $29.95 mail order carbine like some folks (even though, adjusted for inflation, that was still a decent chunk of change in those days). The only one with a bayo lug is a late war Winchester made right around the time they went with the adjustable sight and the lug. I don't think it's ever even had a sling and oiler put on it. |
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Originally Posted By GunnyG: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12179/798DD6BE-944E-430A-9A21-FB6F8F355DE3-691040.jpg An IBM, and it's a Blue Sky Arsenal reimport, bought back when you get these for under $200. View Quote Everyone makes a big deal about the import mark but as long as it wasn't so heavy it warped the barrel "Blues'' are decent little Carbines. I've had 2 over the years, the 1 I rebarreled in the photo here and 1 I sold in 2011 when I got into building AR's and figured I owned 2 at the time plus 1 I got from CMP years ago. Turns out when I sent both the CMP and Blue I kept to Fulton for tune ups the Blue had a better barrel on it than my CMP "Service" Carbine. Right now if I saw another Blue Sky import marked Carbine I'd buy it over the Royal Tiger Ethiopian imports people have been paying $1200-1400 for. I could inspect a Blue real time. |
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Had two. Sold the IBM, kept the Rock-Ola.
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Bought an Inland for my dad a few years back. He had one as his only weapon during the invasion of Okinawa during WW2. Navy Seabee. He's now 94 years old and still enjoys plinking with it.
I'll try to get a photo of him with the "replacement" carbine, |
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Love it.
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Here is one I had handy...
Built it off an SA Inc rec. back when they were literally giving them away and used a "blue sky" barrel that someone pulled off the rifle "because it was import marked". Nothing wrong with it at all...shoots real well... Had one old coot look at it at the range and handed it back in disgust as he said "import!" I said no it's a Springfield I built... "It's an import! I know what they are..they are junk!" And yes he looked just like the fudd meme pic.... All together..I might have 3-400 in it. ![]() |
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Originally Posted By Jeremy2171: Here is one I had handy... Built it off an SA Inc rec. back when they were literally giving them away and used a "blue sky" barrel that someone pulled off the rifle "because it was import marked". Nothing wrong with it at all...shoots real well... Had one old coot look at it at the range and handed it back in disgust as he said "import!" I said no it's a Springfield I built... "It's an import! I know what they are..they are junk!" And yes he looked just like the fudd meme pic.... All together..I might have 3-400 in it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51024/48930738_950530101810012_246443824144134-1783438.JPG View Quote Sweet. I wish I had kept the barrel off the Blue Sky I had rebuilt, it gauged the best of any the USGI barrels I had. SA used LMT for alot of the receivers they made years ago, same outfit Fulton uses now for theirs. I'll give youse treefiddy for it since the Fudd says it junk ![]() I'm tempted to try building one myself using a Fulton receiver. I've got a 1944 Inland barrel that gauges 1.5 after I had FA crown it (it was on my Howa), spare USGI bolt that was with that barrel.....stocks...tempting ![]() |
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Originally Posted By DonFlynn: Sweet. I wish I had kept the barrel off the Blue Sky I had rebuilt, it gauged the best of any the USGI barrels I had. SA used LMT for alot of the receivers they made years ago, same outfit Fulton uses now for theirs. I'll give youse treefiddy for it since the Fudd says it junk ![]() I'm tempted to try building one myself using a Fulton receiver. I've got a 1944 Inland barrel that gauges 1.5 after I had FA crown it (it was on my Howa), spare USGI bolt that was with that barrel.....stocks...tempting ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DonFlynn: Originally Posted By Jeremy2171: Here is one I had handy... Built it off an SA Inc rec. back when they were literally giving them away and used a "blue sky" barrel that someone pulled off the rifle "because it was import marked". Nothing wrong with it at all...shoots real well... Had one old coot look at it at the range and handed it back in disgust as he said "import!" I said no it's a Springfield I built... "It's an import! I know what they are..they are junk!" And yes he looked just like the fudd meme pic.... All together..I might have 3-400 in it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51024/48930738_950530101810012_246443824144134-1783438.JPG Sweet. I wish I had kept the barrel off the Blue Sky I had rebuilt, it gauged the best of any the USGI barrels I had. SA used LMT for alot of the receivers they made years ago, same outfit Fulton uses now for theirs. I'll give youse treefiddy for it since the Fudd says it junk ![]() I'm tempted to try building one myself using a Fulton receiver. I've got a 1944 Inland barrel that gauges 1.5 after I had FA crown it (it was on my Howa), spare USGI bolt that was with that barrel.....stocks...tempting ![]() |
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Originally Posted By p3590: My dad panic bought a carbine in 1994 at a gun show. It was a Blue Sky that was stamped so hard that a 0.295" plug gauge wouldn't drop down the bore. It was visible oval. it didn't shoot for shit until the barrel was replaced. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By p3590: Originally Posted By DonFlynn: Originally Posted By Jeremy2171: Here is one I had handy... Built it off an SA Inc rec. back when they were literally giving them away and used a "blue sky" barrel that someone pulled off the rifle "because it was import marked". Nothing wrong with it at all...shoots real well... Had one old coot look at it at the range and handed it back in disgust as he said "import!" I said no it's a Springfield I built... "It's an import! I know what they are..they are junk!" And yes he looked just like the fudd meme pic.... All together..I might have 3-400 in it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51024/48930738_950530101810012_246443824144134-1783438.JPG Sweet. I wish I had kept the barrel off the Blue Sky I had rebuilt, it gauged the best of any the USGI barrels I had. SA used LMT for alot of the receivers they made years ago, same outfit Fulton uses now for theirs. I'll give youse treefiddy for it since the Fudd says it junk ![]() I'm tempted to try building one myself using a Fulton receiver. I've got a 1944 Inland barrel that gauges 1.5 after I had FA crown it (it was on my Howa), spare USGI bolt that was with that barrel.....stocks...tempting ![]() I've seen a few overstamped Blues in my time. Any that have survived this long more than likely didn't get mangled when the importer stamped them. If I saw another "Blue" Inland I'd be tempted, I could use the barrel I have here now on it |
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Originally Posted By 80thdiv313fa: Saginaw SG Division, May 1943. It’s a mixmaster of parts. https://i.imgur.com/G3eAKHb_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium And not to brag...but I have the best M1 carbine stock of all M1 carbines ![]() https://i.imgur.com/Cpncz8e_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium View Quote Nice "cartouche" That done by you or the GI who was issued it. I can't see that getting past CMP or a arsenal rebuild |
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Originally Posted By 80thdiv313fa: Original USGI artwork ETA: as far as I know. It was on there when I got it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 80thdiv313fa: Originally Posted By DonFlynn: Nice "cartouche" That done by you or the GI who was issued it. I can't see that getting past CMP or a arsenal rebuild Original USGI artwork ETA: as far as I know. It was on there when I got it. Cool |
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Originally Posted By 80thdiv313fa: Saginaw SG Division, May 1943. It’s a mixmaster of parts. https://i.imgur.com/G3eAKHb_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium And not to brag...but I have the best M1 carbine stock of all M1 carbines ![]() https://i.imgur.com/Cpncz8e_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium View Quote That's pretty neat |
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Proud Member of the Leather Head Mafia “In my opinion, the M1 Rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised” - George S. Patton |
Gotta admit I've never seen a stock carving like that one! The carbine my Grandpa had has two names carved in it, one on either side....previous owner's wife and daughter? wife and girlfriend? two girls back home? We'll never know.
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There's a prize at the bottom of every box of .22LR. It's called happiness. Keep shooting!
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I want everyone to know I'm a 'Pacifist' ...and if anyone says otherwise - I'll shoot 'em!
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Originally Posted By Jeremy2171: Here is one I had handy... Built it off an SA Inc rec. back when they were literally giving them away and used a "blue sky" barrel that someone pulled off the rifle "because it was import marked". Nothing wrong with it at all...shoots real well... Had one old coot look at it at the range and handed it back in disgust as he said "import!" I said no it's a Springfield I built... "It's an import! I know what they are..they are junk!" And yes he looked just like the fudd meme pic.... All together..I might have 3-400 in it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51024/48930738_950530101810012_246443824144134-1783438.JPG View Quote I built 2 Carbines using SAI receivers in the late 90’s using all USGI parts kits. Both turned out nice except stocks were trash and I didn’t feel like refinishing them so I replaced both with new. Both shoot great, I eventually sold my WW2 Inland Blue Sky Import. ![]() |
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Originally Posted By Princeton: I built 2 Carbines using SAI receivers in the late 90’s using all USGI parts kits. Both turned out nice except stocks were trash and I didn’t feel like refinishing them so I replaced both with new. Both shoot great, I eventually sold my WW2 Inland Blue Sky Import. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1241/C085F4C6-99BB-489E-9817-9972C6D4D437_jpe-1846384.JPG View Quote Nice looking Carbines. SA used LMT for their receivers and their supposed to be the same quality as the Fulton Armory ones. For some reason every SA based Carbine on GunJoker always lists for ungodly amounts of money, more than actual USGI WWII issue ones. |
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Originally Posted By VAhasnowaves: My ‘44 Rock-ola on my ‘64 Rock-ola. https://i.ibb.co/VxNSxGg/AD9-BE603-8384-4339-BF40-4068-B2-DC889-B.jpg View Quote Now that is badass! |
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Originally Posted By edwin907: Now that is badass! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By edwin907: Originally Posted By VAhasnowaves: My ‘44 Rock-ola on my ‘64 Rock-ola. https://i.ibb.co/VxNSxGg/AD9-BE603-8384-4339-BF40-4068-B2-DC889-B.jpg Now that is badass! Agreed! |
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Proud Member of the Leather Head Mafia “In my opinion, the M1 Rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised” - George S. Patton |
Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX: Originally Posted By edwin907: Originally Posted By VAhasnowaves: My ‘44 Rock-ola on my ‘64 Rock-ola. https://i.ibb.co/VxNSxGg/AD9-BE603-8384-4339-BF40-4068-B2-DC889-B.jpg Now that is badass! Agreed! The Carbine runs flawlessly with no effort. The Jukebox is a pain in my ass. Some part is always breaking! Then I gotta hunt eBay and hope I can fix it myself. |
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Originally Posted By ggibbs: OK...so last weekend I had to travel 6 1/2 hours south in my state for a funeral. So just in case, I checked the state-wide gun classifieds for Carbine's and lo and behold there was one listed for about 1/2 the going rate, and less than an hour off my route. So I met the guy and bought it, and it is a somewhat pathetic looking IBM. It's really been rusted at some point in it's life and the bore is moderately pitted. The neat thing is the only parts that aren't IBM are the bolt (Inland) and the reproduction rear sight. I haven't taken lots of photos of it yet, but I have shot it quite a bit and it's not a bad shooter at all as this 100 yd. photo shows. https://i.imgur.com/sGknY2vh.jpg I'm going to try to get more pictures as time allows. View Quote Sounds like a bargain. Is it worth getting a better barrel for it? Sounds like it's a base for a restoration job ![]() |
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"People tend to have a proclivity towards an object rather than their own skill."
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Originally Posted By ggibbs: Well....if it keeps shooting like it did tonight just before dark, I guess the existing barrel will be fine!! https://i.imgur.com/nlmXbzSl.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ggibbs: Originally Posted By DonFlynn: Sounds like a bargain. Is it worth getting a better barrel for it? Sounds like it's a base for a restoration job ![]() Well....if it keeps shooting like it did tonight just before dark, I guess the existing barrel will be fine!! https://i.imgur.com/nlmXbzSl.jpg Ain't nothing wrong with that grouping ![]() ![]() I ran a 100 round test through mine today at the local 25 yard indoor range, did ok also |
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Originally Posted By DonFlynn: Ain't nothing wrong with that grouping ![]() https://images46.fotki.com/v297/photos/9/4114449/16341166/photo-vi.jpg I ran a 100 round test through mine today at the local 25 yard indoor range, did ok also View Quote Very nice shooting! |
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Originally Posted By ggibbs: Very nice shooting! View Quote It's only 25 yards, I wanted to function check the Carbine. 2 stovepipes 1st 10 rounds, changed mags and ran the next 90 rounds no issues That carbine evidently has a newer Erma Werke barrel on it, not a USGI/WWII issue one. That explains the .03 gauge reading I got. I was sort of wanting a all USGI Carbine but thought that was a better deal with what was at the show yesterday. The trigger group has a slight "wiggle" in it but I understand USGI armorers tended to loosen the receiver tabs up with a wood block to have a easier fit of the trigger group. I've seen worse and have a email into Fulton Armory to see if they can tighten it up. If they can't I'll change the springs all way around and change the extractor myself. I need a bolt assembly tool anyway with the number of Carbines I own now anyway, do want to take them apart once a year for deep cleaning If they can I'll waste the $80 bucks and have them do at least a Tech Inspection on "Hilda" (it is a ex Bavarian after all ![]() I was wanting 1 100% USGI "spec" Carbine as a safe queen, this should fill the bill. That means in my world 1 of my USGI Inlands with the new Criterion chrome lined barrels becomes a full time shooter (500-1000 rounds a year, if I can find ammo ever again) and the 2nd sees the range on Memorial Day for 100 rounds a year ![]() I'll post my write up on Hilda from the CC Club later ![]() |
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I have twin boys that claim my rifles when I pull them out of the safe or bring a new one home. Lucky for my son Colt he was with me when I picked up my latest carbine. He says it is his.
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Originally Posted By rugerdog: I have twin boys that claim my rifles when I pull them out of the safe or bring a new one home. Lucky for my son Colt he was with me when I picked up my latest carbine. He says it is his. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/97915/17F23784-50DA-4D48-B80F-FB0862E4AB4E_jpe-1897456.JPG Doll house is my daughter’s. She has a contract with GI Joe for security. View Quote Nice looking boy and I love the stock on the Carbine |
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Original stock on this Inland had a bunch of Korean Jibba-jabbah painted on it,
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Originally Posted By llanero: Original stock on this Inland had a bunch of Korean Jibba-jabbah painted on it, https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25010/4C668C38-8BBD-4D2F-B4B8-F246D43E31F1_jpe-1897730.JPGso I tapco-fucked it. View Quote Looks fun to me ![]() |
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Originally Posted By llanero: Original stock on this Inland had a bunch of Korean Jibba-jabbah painted on it, https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25010/4C668C38-8BBD-4D2F-B4B8-F246D43E31F1_jpe-1897730.JPGso I tapco-fucked it. View Quote Is that really TAPCO furniture? Looks like Choate to me. Not bad. AIRBORNE!!!!! |
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Originally Posted By llanero: You caught me. It’s just that “Choate-fuck” isn’t really in our lexicon. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By llanero: Originally Posted By RCRTR: Is that really TAPCO furniture? Looks like Choate to me. Not bad. AIRBORNE!!!!! You caught me. It’s just that “Choate-fuck” isn’t really in our lexicon. I kind of like the Choate folding stock I have for my Carbines, paid $40 bucks for it at gun show. If I saw another cheap enough I'd snag a 2nd for one of my other Carbines. In SHTF situation it would come in handy for anyone I let use it |
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