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Link Posted: 7/30/2007 6:30:54 PM EDT
[#1]
Did anyone else's DMS-1 come with a spare battery in the windage turret cap?

-X
Link Posted: 7/30/2007 7:26:45 PM EDT
[#2]

Originally Posted By flannagan_bryan:
I just got more of the DVSR mounts in and just shipped a bunch, so i think allot of guys are trying this combo,


commission for me?  
Link Posted: 7/30/2007 7:51:38 PM EDT
[#3]

Originally Posted By flannagan_bryan:
I just got more of the DVSR mounts in and just shipped a bunch, so i think allot of guys are trying this combo,

Can you get them to make another version with longer eye relief and a bit more contact area on the receiver?
Link Posted: 7/30/2007 10:01:07 PM EDT
[#4]

Originally Posted By Black-X:
Did anyone else's DMS-1 come with a spare battery in the windage turret cap?

-X


   
   Mine did
Link Posted: 7/30/2007 10:41:28 PM EDT
[#5]

Originally Posted By BigBore45:

Originally Posted By Black-X:
Did anyone else's DMS-1 come with a spare battery in the windage turret cap?

-X


   
   Mine did


Mine had a battery in the windage cap, but it was the only battery it came with.
Link Posted: 7/30/2007 10:44:07 PM EDT
[#6]
Just received mine - One battery in the box, spare mounted in the windage cap!!
Link Posted: 7/30/2007 10:48:13 PM EDT
[#7]

Originally Posted By chuckTLE:
Just received mine - One battery in the box, spare mounted in the windage cap!!


+1




And LARUE is the way to go.
Link Posted: 7/30/2007 11:18:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: chuckTLE] [#8]
Derek could not have said it any better!

So the DMS-1 I found to be well built, with excellent optics and visual clarity. Fantastic value!

Mark LaRue- if you read this, your products and service are amazing - you should be incredibly proud and pleased about what you guys do.

The SPR LT-104 30mm mount is the PERFECT companion to the DMS-1. A little trick on mounting the scope - index the zoom index dot on top of the eye piece with the middle of the verticle gap of teh top of the LaRue mount - perfect alignment.

Also - for you guys with the fixed front sight post - no worries! FSB is blurry and unobtrusive at 1X and disappears entirely at 2X - 4X

Pics (of course): (We'll see how it all comes together at the KY State 3 Gun in Sept!)

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u170/chuckmahon/My_AR/July302007012.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u170/chuckmahon/My_AR/July302007008.jpg
Link Posted: 7/31/2007 1:15:56 AM EDT
[#9]

Originally Posted By chuckTLE:
Just received mine - One battery in the box, spare mounted in the windage cap!!

These take CR2032 batteries right?
Link Posted: 7/31/2007 1:39:33 AM EDT
[#10]

Originally Posted By Gamma762:

Originally Posted By chuckTLE:
Just received mine - One battery in the box, spare mounted in the windage cap!!

These take CR2032 batteries right?


2 batteries for me too !! and yes for the CR2032
Link Posted: 7/31/2007 2:11:03 AM EDT
[#11]
I'm curious, seeing the SPR and SPR-E mounts used, which is preferred for the nose to CH shooter?  I'm not able to jump on one of these yet, but I'm leaning towards the SPR-E.  Going from the pics above there's enough leeway to shift aft in the mount and if that's not quite enough the mount can be moved a notch back on the rail and still clear typical BUIS.  



For reference, this is what I'm shooting now.  If the ER is at all comparable the non-extended mount would work, but...
Link Posted: 7/31/2007 12:05:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FMJ] [#12]
I like the E model myself

I would just KEEP what you have!

I love Aimpoints or Eotech  on carbine/M4

I cant run a Magnifier with arms40 and 551 with my LMT M4 with LMT M4 hand Guards
or I would buy the eotech 4x or 3x

If I skip the BUIS it might work
Link Posted: 7/31/2007 1:13:12 PM EDT
[#13]

Originally Posted By Resq47:
For reference, this is what I'm shooting now.  If the ER is at all comparable the non-extended mount would work, but...


If you are using your rifle for social purposes I would HIGHLY suggest you keep the Aimpoint/Magnifier combo. I doubt that the DMS-1 is going to be anywhere near as durable and definitly dosent have the battery life of the Aimpoint.

I want the DSM-1 for my 3-gun setup, but my Aimpoint will continue to ride on the patrol rifle until I can go for the S&B Short Dot.
Link Posted: 7/31/2007 6:25:36 PM EDT
[#14]
Hah!  Don't take that the wrong way, the aimpoint and magnifier are going NOWHERE.  I've shot them out to 800M and they work very well, I'm just looking at a 1-4x for an additional setup.  I need more aimpoints too  

I'm in the minority, but I'm not sold on the S&B SD.  A friend has their T&E kit now with three of them and frankly I'd go a different route if it were my money.
Link Posted: 7/31/2007 7:13:05 PM EDT
[#15]
Link Posted: 7/31/2007 8:32:54 PM EDT
[#16]
So what mount for the DMS-1 will allow me to use my BUIS?  I'm sold on the optic but confussed about the mount.
Link Posted: 8/1/2007 1:00:27 AM EDT
[#17]

Originally Posted By TREETOP:
Same here. For the price of a single S&B SD I'd rather have 2 complete rifles with DMS-1s and LT mounts.


I bet my life and the lives of the people I work with on my rifle. I would rather have one ultra-reliable setup. The Short Dot has proven reliable for some very hard people in some very hard places.

It never ceases to amaze me that people will use cost as a deciding factor on gear that could be the difference between life or death. If you absolutely can't afford it, that's one thing, but I would rather buy an exellent piece of gear than many OK pieces.

If you don't intend to go in harms way, then disregard the above.
Link Posted: 8/1/2007 2:32:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TREETOP] [#18]
Link Posted: 8/1/2007 2:47:27 AM EDT
[#19]
Link Posted: 8/1/2007 5:16:06 AM EDT
[#20]
How visable is the lighted reticle if looking through the front of the scope, like your a bad guy?
Link Posted: 8/1/2007 5:45:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Resq47] [#21]

Originally Posted By LoneWolfUSMC:
I bet my life and the lives of the people I work with on my rifle. I would rather have one ultra-reliable setup. The Short Dot has proven reliable for some very hard people in some very hard places.

It never ceases to amaze me that people will use cost as a deciding factor on gear that could be the difference between life or death. If you absolutely can't afford it, that's one thing, but I would rather buy an exellent piece of gear than many OK pieces.

If you don't intend to go in harms way, then disregard the above.


I'm not one to go cheap on gear, and as I'm not paid to shoot I prefer my 'set and forget' Aimpoint over anything else on the market at any price for my rifle at hand.  If I were deployed things might be different, but mission dictates equipment.  The Millett would be something to beat on in training and matches and maybe push me to pop for a NF 1-4x.  Still, it wouldn't replace but rather compliment the Aimpoint.  That's the joy of solid QD mounts that return to zero (LaRue), no?
Link Posted: 8/1/2007 5:53:52 AM EDT
[#22]

Originally Posted By TREETOP:

Originally Posted By Resq47:
...I'm in the minority, but I'm not sold on the S&B SD.  A friend has their T&E kit now with three of them and frankly I'd go a different route if it were my money.


Same here. For the price of a single S&B SD I'd rather have 2 complete rifles with DMS-1s and LT mounts.



+1
Or a GOOD BOLT ACTION for Mid to long range shooting  223 to 308
plus a decent scope
Link Posted: 8/1/2007 10:29:45 PM EDT
[#23]
Just got my DMS-1 from Midway, and boy is it nice.  It's almost as clear as my IOR, but the colors have a slightly different tone to them than the IOR.  I was messing with it with some crappy rings.  I'm looking forward to trying this out!
Link Posted: 8/1/2007 10:45:22 PM EDT
[#24]
height=8
Originally Posted By ops144:
hey all i have an A2 upper right now....

i like it and dont plan on changing it very soon..

is there a good way to mount this on an A2 upper?

i know its not ideal but its what i have to work with right now...

thanks in advance haveextended carry handle mount (http://www.armsmounts.com/catalog.php?action=124&item_id=74).  I chose the extended mount for 2 reasons: it has more cuts than the regular version (hence giving me more eye relief choices) and extends farther over the barrel, which I hoped would give me the right eye relief.

I just got the A.R.M.S mount today and put the whole thing together for my eye relief, and I am pretty optimistic about the setup.  The scope is in the same position relative to the barrel nut/ ejection port as most of the flattops I see pictured in this thread, except those with the longest of the Larue mounts, and I can still push it out 3 more notches if I want.  I measured the height over bore, and it appears to be about 4.25-4.5 inches.

I was also concerned about how high the scope would be for me and if I might need a riser on the telestock for a cheek weld, but so far that seems ok.  I was curious how much of a Franken-gun this setup might look like considering the 3 thumbscrews involved, but it is not too bad.  I am curious to see how well each mount repeats zero.

Unfortunately, it will be a few weeks until I get to the range to try it out.  My digital camera is also out of commission, or I would post some pics.
Link Posted: 8/2/2007 7:57:41 AM EDT
[#25]

Originally Posted By LetFreedomBeep:

Originally Posted By ops144:
hey all i have an A2 upper right now....

i like it and dont plan on changing it very soon..

is there a good way to mount this on an A2 upper?

i know its not ideal but its what i have to work with right now...

thanks in advance


I have an A2 Bushy, and went with the Armalite 30mm scope mount (http://www.armalite.com/sales/catalog/components/mounts_rings.htm) and the A.R.M.S. #02 extended carry handle mount (http://www.armsmounts.com/catalog.php?action=124&item_id=74).  I chose the extended mount for 2 reasons: it has more cuts than the regular version (hence giving me more eye relief choices) and extends farther over the barrel, which I hoped would give me the right eye relief.

I just got the A.R.M.S mount today and put the whole thing together for my eye relief, and I am pretty optimistic about the setup.  The scope is in the same position relative to the barrel nut/ ejection port as most of the flattops I see pictured in this thread, except those with the longest of the Larue mounts, and I can still push it out 3 more notches if I want.  I measured the height over bore, and it appears to be about 4.25-4.5 inches.

I was also concerned about how high the scope would be for me and if I might need a riser on the telestock for a cheek weld, but so far that seems ok.  I was curious how much of a Franken-gun this setup might look like considering the 3 thumbscrews involved, but it is not too bad.  I am curious to see how well each mount repeats zero.

Unfortunately, it will be a few weeks until I get to the range to try it out.  My digital camera is also out of commission, or I would post some pics.



I rane a ARMS # 2 mount on my A1
I think its one of the best ways to mount a scope
PLUS YOU CAN USE YOUR IRONS SIGHTS FOR CLOSE RANGE

I never had anytrouble with that set up
Might look UGLY but to be able to use your IRONS IS WELL WORTH IT
Link Posted: 8/2/2007 8:28:29 AM EDT
[#26]
height=8
Originally Posted By FMJ:

I rane a ARMS # 2 mount on my A1


Thanks, FMJ -

In your experience, did it return to zero if you removed the mount and reattached it?
Link Posted: 8/2/2007 10:54:30 AM EDT
[#27]
Has anyone banged up their DMS yet or know of any durabiltiy issues.  Our department durrently uses a vehicle mount that is like a magnetic c-clamp that rides in front between the driver/pass seat.  There's some amount of looseness but for the most part, just daily vehicle vibrations.  

How do you all feel the DMS with the SPR-E would handle the daily "abuse", anyone had any problems or could attest to it withstanding the same use.  I'm not one to intentionally abuse any firearm, but just want to know that it's solid.  Of course, I'd have a BUIS and fully understand Murphy's law.  

Link Posted: 8/2/2007 10:59:27 AM EDT
[#28]
I will not get teh fake larue mount for this.  I will not.  I will not.  I have ethics and morals....
Link Posted: 8/2/2007 8:03:42 PM EDT
[#29]

Originally Posted By DPD06:
I'm not one to intentionally abuse any firearm, but just want to know that it's solid.  Of course, I'd have a BUIS and fully understand Murphy's law.  


Why not? Any piece of gear that is not tested for the "abuse" of duty at the factory gets tested by me.

When my DMS-1 gets mounted I will probably put some serious wear and tear on it.
Link Posted: 8/2/2007 10:31:05 PM EDT
[#30]

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
I will not get teh fake larue mount for this.  I will not.  I will not.  I have ethics and morals....


There's a fake one? ?

Link Posted: 8/2/2007 10:35:33 PM EDT
[#31]

Originally Posted By HunterGren:

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
I will not get teh fake larue mount for this.  I will not.  I will not.  I have ethics and morals....


There's a fake one? ?

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=337572
Link Posted: 8/3/2007 12:52:16 AM EDT
[#32]

Originally Posted By Gamma762:

Originally Posted By HunterGren:

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
I will not get teh fake larue mount for this.  I will not.  I will not.  I have ethics and morals....


There's a fake one? ?

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=337572


Man, that is F*cked up.

I suppose imitation is the finest form of flattery. Well, until people start getting ripped off.

Link Posted: 8/3/2007 6:04:48 AM EDT
[#33]
Hey guys
whats the eye relief on the DMS-1?
how visble is the lighted reticle through the front of the scope?
Link Posted: 8/3/2007 8:02:25 AM EDT
[#34]

Originally Posted By KYOSHI:
Hey guys
whats the eye relief on the DMS-1?
how visble is the lighted reticle through the front of the scope?



3.5"
Link Posted: 8/3/2007 10:04:27 AM EDT
[#35]

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
I will not get teh fake larue mount for this.  I will not.  I will not.  I have ethics and morals....


I ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT buy a fake LaRue mount.

IMHO that would be like slapping Mark in the face. You are basically saying that you want a product with his name on it, but you are not willing to pay his price.

When you buy a LaRue mount, you aren't just buying a chunk of aluminum with some cool levers. You are investing in a company with excellent business practice. I am was amazed when I saw firsthand how Mark's warranty works. I am more than willing to pay a premium to reward a company that works like that.

I just wish I had the cash to drop on it right now.

If you can't afford the REAL LaRue mount, then just nab a CAA cantilever mount and save your pennies for the LaRue. That is probably what I will do.
Link Posted: 8/3/2007 10:48:48 AM EDT
[#36]
seriously, I will buy all the fake ARMS out there, but not a single fake larue, no way no how.

no matter how tempting
Link Posted: 8/3/2007 3:08:49 PM EDT
[#37]
Just got my DMS 1 shipped from Big River Tactical (Great customer Service BTW) and placed order for GENUINE Larue SPR-E.  Range report to follow.  (FYI-  the guys at Larue recommended the E model since the eye relief can vary with magnification on this scope.)  
Link Posted: 8/3/2007 3:14:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: hookahjoe] [#38]
Received my DMS-1 today from Big River Tactical  as well, and mounted it with a CAA mount, which seems rock solid.  Hope to get to the range next weekend...pics to follow. I have to agree with Fronny122, Biver River Tactical has great CS.  Donnie sent me updates every few day regarding the status of my back ordered scope and was happy to answer any and all questions.  
Link Posted: 8/4/2007 12:08:38 AM EDT
[#39]
Midway is out of stock already !
Link Posted: 8/4/2007 6:46:40 PM EDT
[#40]
Does the scope come with lens covers?

Anyone with the CAA mount see any problems?  Anyway to make it detach faster?
Link Posted: 8/4/2007 7:42:09 PM EDT
[#41]
It appears that the scope comes with a soft cover.
Link Posted: 8/4/2007 8:01:42 PM EDT
[#42]
The supplied "scope covers" are junk. Get yourself a pair of Butler Creek flip open covers. There are sizes listed earlier in this post!


Mikey
Link Posted: 8/4/2007 10:33:04 PM EDT
[#43]

Originally Posted By mikeyonthemadone:
The supplied "scope covers" are junk. Get yourself a pair of Butler Creek flip open covers. There are sizes listed earlier in this post!


Mikey


got mine and they work much better :)
Link Posted: 8/5/2007 4:46:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GRSC] [#44]
Link Posted: 8/5/2007 5:07:33 PM EDT
[#45]

Originally Posted By GRSC:
   Would anybody be interested in the DMS 1 with a GRSC M4-62 reticle?
    Ed
 GRSC


Sounds interesting.  
Link Posted: 8/5/2007 5:08:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TREETOP] [#46]
Link Posted: 8/5/2007 5:17:43 PM EDT
[#47]
Link Posted: 8/5/2007 5:22:13 PM EDT
[#48]
why not ? I like the scope and the reticle design from GSRC.
Link Posted: 8/5/2007 5:42:01 PM EDT
[#49]
An alternate reticle design would be interesting to me, but not that one.

Something like the DMS-1 reticle but with ranging holdovers for 300/400/500m.  And a ranging system based on a much larger dimension (18" or 1m or something) that works at 4x on the scope.
Link Posted: 8/5/2007 8:46:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cjgem] [#50]

Originally Posted By GRSC:
   Would anybody be interested in the DMS 1 with a GRSC M4-62 reticle?
    Ed
 GRSC


I'd buy one.  I really wish Trijicon would put the TA11F's reticule in the TR21.
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