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MRP Badness, chapter 3 (Page 8 of 146)
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You're a tease 
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Failure has far too many fathers. -MMB
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Life is like a shit sandwhich...the more bread you have the less you have to eat.
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Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
You're a tease
Cheers So will LMT go with the specs for the Blackout or Whisper? There is a small difference I believe? |
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Originally Posted By LRB45:
Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
You're a tease
Cheers So will LMT go with the specs for the Blackout or Whisper? There is a small difference I believe? They will be idiots if they do not ream these chambers to shoot factory 300BLK. To give them credit, I am glad it appears they are doing a better job of reacting to the market. They should drop the Whisper designation so as not to charge a premium for use of that name. Its a shame they haven't updated to 6.8SPC II and would be a shame if they forced everyone to ream out Whisper chambers to 300BLK. |
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Originally Posted By jasonusvi:
Originally Posted By LRB45:
Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
You're a tease
Cheers So will LMT go with the specs for the Blackout or Whisper? There is a small difference I believe? They will be idiots if they do not ream these chambers to shoot factory 300BLK. To give them credit, I am glad it appears they are doing a better job of reacting to the market. They should drop the Whisper designation so as not to charge a premium for use of that name. Its a shame they haven't updated to 6.8SPC II and would be a shame if they forced everyone to ream out Whisper chambers to 300BLK. I'm with you, I really hope the chamber is setup for 300BLK. It will suck if we have to ream the chamber. |
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I got permission to quote some emails from LMT:
"As long as you keep my name out of it, I don’t mind. However please note that the information I supplied is subjective and subject to change based on outside factors… Also one ARFCOM thing you can clear up for me as I have already seen some LMT bashing about the .300AAC as I do watch the forums for outside input to our company. We will be chambering in the 300AAC Blackout and not the 300 Whisper.... ... I expect the .300AAC Blackout to be out about mid-2011 unless R&D goes faster than anticipated, but securing the ammo needed for final approval will be a bit hard to do as we generally will go through about 100K rounds before we give the full release to a barrel type for production. For the MWS I think they are doing them in sets of 2. Here is the order I think we will go in but its subject to change… .243 Winchester & .260 Remington will be first .338 Federal & 7mm-08 Remington will be second 6.5 Creedmore will be last… I say that because I know what ammo we currently have in house for testing… Best regards, _________ " |
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Originally Posted By jasonusvi:
I got permission to quote some emails from LMT: "As long as you keep my name out of it, I don’t mind. However please note that the information I supplied is subjective and subject to change based on outside factors… Also one ARFCOM thing you can clear up for me as I have already seen some LMT bashing about the .300AAC as I do watch the forums for outside input to our company. We will be chambering in the 300AAC Blackout and not the 300 Whisper.... ... I expect the .300AAC Blackout to be out about mid-2011 unless R&D goes faster than anticipated, but securing the ammo needed for final approval will be a bit hard to do as we generally will go through about 100K rounds before we give the full release to a barrel type for production. For the MWS I think they are doing them in sets of 2. Here is the order I think we will go in but its subject to change… .243 Winchester & .260 Remington will be first .338 Federal & 7mm-08 Remington will be second 6.5 Creedmore will be last… I say that because I know what ammo we currently have in house for testing… Best regards, _________ " If this guy from LMT is watching he should come forward and comment... It would be nice to have some official presence here from LMT... Spooky |
"Ever come across someone you shouldn't have f*cked with? That's me."
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Heck, do the 6.8! I have the 16" and reamed the chambe rto spec II, works like a champ. I will do the 300 when they release it as it's another option for me. On the 6.8, you don't need to ream it if you don't plan on shooting the SSA Combat Loads.
Looks like LMT is doing a great job with market demands in regards to alot of developments in the shooting community––-I WISH THEY WOULD DO FROM THE FACTORY THE SPEC II CHAMBERS AT LEAST |
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Originally Posted By mark5pt56:
Heck, do the 6.8! I have the 16" and reamed the chambe rto spec II, works like a champ. I will do the 300 when they release it as it's another option for me. On the 6.8, you don't need to ream it if you don't plan on shooting the SSA Combat Loads. Looks like LMT is doing a great job with market demands in regards to alot of developments in the shooting community––-I WISH THEY WOULD DO FROM THE FACTORY THE SPEC II CHAMBERS AT LEAST +1 on not having to ream out factory 6.8 chromed chambers to get SPC II. That was a question I put back to the LMT rep in my last email and have not heard back yet. |
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Not sure why he can't post his own comments but here is one more from an LMT rep fyi:
"The 6.8 SPC has not been updated to the SPC II chamber as our DoD partners on the 6.8 project don’t want really anything to do with SPC II. Mainly because the ammo is only available from once source. Also they do not like the increased pressures of the SPC II round for whatever reason. I know the 6.8’s we have in use overseas have been met with rave reviews and they are doing their job properly to say the least. Our 12.5” DI 6.8 upper is very popular over there because its compact and still “very accurate” to 250 meters (end user quote there). I have never shot the 6.8 passed 100 meters so I don’t have any real comment to add to that. On a short note if our military users change their mind and want to go to 6.8 SPC II then we will go it, but for now they are liking what we already make Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns." The SPC II is ballistics are superior and thought that the updated chamber reduced pressures so not sure what the issue is. Does the velocity of standard SPC ammo drop in an SPC II chamber? |
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Originally Posted By slipjett:
Emailed LMT requesting a catalog Friday morning and in my mailbox today... http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv165/slipjett/IMG_0895.jpg ...project on the bottom would look really good with a 300 BLK What optic is that on the middle rifle with the SS barrel? ETA: What barrel is that on the bottom "project" rifle? Spikes 9mm? |
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Maybe his employer forbids them from having and official presence at LMT...
Even if they did half the people here wouldnt believe him anyway Originally Posted By Spooky130:
Originally Posted By jasonusvi:
I got permission to quote some emails from LMT: "As long as you keep my name out of it, I don’t mind. However please note that the information I supplied is subjective and subject to change based on outside factors… Also one ARFCOM thing you can clear up for me as I have already seen some LMT bashing about the .300AAC as I do watch the forums for outside input to our company. We will be chambering in the 300AAC Blackout and not the 300 Whisper.... ... I expect the .300AAC Blackout to be out about mid-2011 unless R&D goes faster than anticipated, but securing the ammo needed for final approval will be a bit hard to do as we generally will go through about 100K rounds before we give the full release to a barrel type for production. For the MWS I think they are doing them in sets of 2. Here is the order I think we will go in but its subject to change… .243 Winchester & .260 Remington will be first .338 Federal & 7mm-08 Remington will be second 6.5 Creedmore will be last… I say that because I know what ammo we currently have in house for testing… Best regards, _________ " If this guy from LMT is watching he should come forward and comment... It would be nice to have some official presence here from LMT... Spooky |
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Nicely done. Sling? Cheers |
Failure has far too many fathers. -MMB
I'm goin' to Sha-Boom Sha-Booms! -KPowers
Life is like a shit sandwhich...the more bread you have the less you have to eat.
I'm goin' to Sha-Boom Sha-Booms! -KPowers
Life is like a shit sandwhich...the more bread you have the less you have to eat.
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Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
Nicely done. Sling? Cheers padded qd vcas, unpictured 
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This sling is looking pretty ideal (to me) for an MRP/ MWS in combination with Noveske QD sling mount to move seamlessly from 1 to 2 point as needed.
Link What do you guys think? |
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Latest rendition...
-I have a Geissele SD-C trigger in it. Love that thing. I had a Geissele SD-3G in it but that was a little too hair trigger for duty use. It is now in the lower that is going to be an SBR. (Trigger evolution: factory single stage to Bill Springfield to SSA to SD-3G to SD-C. There was not a lot of difference between the SSA and the SD-C but I like being different and the flat trigger does that for me.) -AR Performance 8 port adjustable comp. This thing works better than a battle comp at less than half price. A battle comp would make the muzzle dip to 6 o'clock after each shot. This comp does a more horizontal movement, going to about 10 o'clock then back to 4 o'clock then recenters. It is almost like it is just vibrating on the target. Keep in mind these were slow fired shots just to watch where the red dot went. -Added a redi mod too. -VLTOR A5 extension with spring and buffer (6 oz) are on it now too. SOPMOD won't close all the way but it still fits in my case with the stock at the "2" position. -G2 is now sporting a nailbender SST-90 drop in. Three levels of light with great flood. I don't know what the first two levels are but the high level is around 650 lumens and really lights an area up. A couple people that have shot the gun in it's current config says it feels like a .22 I'm waiting on a Huskey amentum sling in coyote to show up. My black and tan gun will match my black and tan shepherd. And my wife says I can't accessorize... The gun looks so "chalky and dirty" because I had the entire gun ceramic coated because I couldn't stand the purple lower with the black upper. I told the coater to make it as flat black as possible and he did a great job. It is hard to tell in the pics but the upper (minus barrel), lower, and ejection port door with hardware were all coated at the same time. 
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“We don’t rise to the level of our expectations – we fall to the level of our training”
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-Archilochus, Greek Soldier
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Originally Posted By StrangerDanger:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5162/5279160234_7f77d3f4fb_b.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5248/5278553825_6e65791ec2_b.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5123/5279161120_8cb16c0923_b.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5050/5278554905_e33e98b090_b.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5202/5278555391_24790b75f5_b.jpg Dropped a BAD ASS 45 degree selector in the other day. Haven't posted new photos in a while. The rains out here in the south west make for some interesting lighting to take photos in. Added a few minor enhancements. Finally got around to getting raped at Adams Arms for a couple springs for 15$ shipping. Did ADCO do the recontouring of your MRP barrel? Been looking and was just wondering how much weight you shaved off? Do you have any pictures of just the barrel? Thanks |
Yes, ADCO did the work. They cut it to 14.5" and pinned on the Vortex. The profile was cut down to .625". I don't have an exact weight difference, but I believe it is 6 - 8 ounces. Tell ADCO to open up the gas port if you have the barrel length modified in any way.
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Originally Posted By StrangerDanger:
Yes, ADCO did the work. They cut it to 14.5" and pinned on the Vortex. The profile was cut down to .625". I don't have an exact weight difference, but I believe it is 6 - 8 ounces. Tell ADCO to open up the gas port if you have the barrel length modified in any way. http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h417/Zzyzx313/044.jpg?1296763052 http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h417/Zzyzx313/046.jpg?1296763093 http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h417/Zzyzx313/045.jpg?t=1296763140 http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h417/Zzyzx313/055.jpg?1296763236 Thank you very much! |
Not sure if I need to post a pic here or not  But I have a question related to MRP uppers...
Is there a way to use standard USGI Front Sights with these rifles? Or would I need to always have my Front Sights connected to the rails? If so, could I make an A4 clone with the rifle length upper? |
| im sure it is possible, havent seen it done though, to mount a standard front sight to the barrel on an mrp, it wouldnt have any function as a gas block though and would be like a kino configured rifle. but it is much easier just to stick with rail mounted irons |
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Originally Posted By sr503:
im sure it is possible, havent seen it done though, to mount a standard front sight to the barrel on an mrp, it wouldnt have any function as a gas block though and would be like a kino configured rifle. but it is much easier just to stick with rail mounted irons I always thought it would be neat to turn my 12.5" 6.8 MRP barrel into Kino configuration with my CQB upper. I am pretty sure there is enough barrel proturding from the rail to accomadate the fixed FSB. Cheers |
Failure has far too many fathers. -MMB
I'm goin' to Sha-Boom Sha-Booms! -KPowers
Life is like a shit sandwhich...the more bread you have the less you have to eat.
I'm goin' to Sha-Boom Sha-Booms! -KPowers
Life is like a shit sandwhich...the more bread you have the less you have to eat.
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Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
Originally Posted By sr503:
im sure it is possible, havent seen it done though, to mount a standard front sight to the barrel on an mrp, it wouldnt have any function as a gas block though and would be like a kino configured rifle. but it is much easier just to stick with rail mounted irons I always thought it would be neat to turn my 12.5" 6.8 MRP barrel into Kino configuration with my CQB upper. I am pretty sure there is enough barrel proturding from the rail to accomadate the fixed FSB. Cheers Do it! I want to see that. |
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Originally Posted By Edvvard:
It wouldn't be a mid length then would it? Assuming I use the CQB length upper. You'd have to use a carbine length gas system as the middy gas block would interfere with the FSB; unless you place the FSB in front of the middy GB, which would look odd. Cheers |
Failure has far too many fathers. -MMB
I'm goin' to Sha-Boom Sha-Booms! -KPowers
Life is like a shit sandwhich...the more bread you have the less you have to eat.
I'm goin' to Sha-Boom Sha-Booms! -KPowers
Life is like a shit sandwhich...the more bread you have the less you have to eat.
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Wow, Now this isn't an MRP question, but does this mean that every AR I see with a FF tube and an FSP like that is a Kino AR?
Wait a sec, why couldn't I just use a mid length barrel that I'd buy separately from the whole MRP system with the regular FSP and just have it worked on to work with the MRP system? |
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Originally Posted By Edvvard:
Wow, Now this isn't an MRP question, but does this mean that every AR I see with a FF tube and an FSP like that is a Kino AR? Wait a sec, why couldn't I just use a mid length barrel that I'd buy separately from the whole MRP system with the regular FSP and just have it worked on to work with the MRP system? You could buy a midlength gas system barrel and have it worked on, however it would not be in true Kino configuration. A true Kino includes a carbine length gas system with a low-profile gas block and an FSB for ward of the gas block which has no purpose other than to provide a fixed sight base. The idea is basically a shorter version of a dissapator wheras the overall sight picture is as long as possible. Note that a middy gas system is not considered reliable on any barrel under 14.5" in length. IMHO, if you want Kino configuration on an MRP system, you'd be better off utilizing the factory supplied front, fixed BUIS. Cheers |
Failure has far too many fathers. -MMB
I'm goin' to Sha-Boom Sha-Booms! -KPowers
Life is like a shit sandwhich...the more bread you have the less you have to eat.
I'm goin' to Sha-Boom Sha-Booms! -KPowers
Life is like a shit sandwhich...the more bread you have the less you have to eat.
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Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
Originally Posted By Edvvard:
Wow, Now this isn't an MRP question, but does this mean that every AR I see with a FF tube and an FSP like that is a Kino AR? Wait a sec, why couldn't I just use a mid length barrel that I'd buy separately from the whole MRP system with the regular FSP and just have it worked on to work with the MRP system? You could buy a midlength gas system barrel and have it worked on, however it would not be in true Kino configuration. A true Kino includes a carbine length gas system with a low-profile gas block and an FSB for ward of the gas block which has no purpose other than to provide a fixed sight base. The idea is basically a shorter version of a dissapator wheras the overall sight picture is as long as possible. Note that a middy gas system is not considered reliable on any barrel under 14.5" in length. IMHO, if you want Kino configuration on an MRP system, you'd be better off utilizing the factory supplied front, fixed BUIS. Cheers That is perfectly fine by me! 
I just wasn't sure if I could have something like that with the MRP system. I just want a midlength gas system with the USGI Sight to be used with a CQB MRP. |
Minor update: installed an X300. The G2 in Larue offset mount never quite caught on with me.
Saving a couple extra oz is a bonus and this light is bright! 
I think I'm done...for now. I have a sling in QD swivels (on my other rifle). |
| For some reason I thought you could not use a .22LR conversion kit with the MRP. I am not sure why I was thinking you can't. Well, you can. I used a Brownell's tonight at a training class and it worked flawlessly. Just an FYI for anyone else like me that thought you couldn't. |
“We don’t rise to the level of our expectations – we fall to the level of our training”
-Archilochus, Greek Soldier
-Archilochus, Greek Soldier
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Originally Posted By blake-b:
For some reason I thought you could not use a .22LR conversion kit with the MRP. I am not sure why I was thinking you can't. Well, you can. I used a Brownell's tonight at a training class and it worked flawlessly. Just an FYI for anyone else like me that thought you couldn't. The best system is to go with Spikes. You get a dedicated 22lr barrel which really enhances the reliability of the entire weapon. Plus, the twist rate is matched for 22lr. You don't end up with fowling in your gas system either. Mine has ate close to 10,000 rounds now and it keeps chugging along when fed Federal bulk pack. |
It was in-service training for work and they supplied the kit and ammo. They do that for the indoor range. When we use the outdoor range, we use 223/5.56. I could have saved myself thousands if I had known it before buying a bunch of reloading equipment.... 
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“We don’t rise to the level of our expectations – we fall to the level of our training”
-Archilochus, Greek Soldier
-Archilochus, Greek Soldier
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Originally Posted By sr503:
anyone have any experience with the spikes tactical 9mm mrp barrel (16in)? accuracy? how does this hold up since it isnt CL'd? considering buying this since 9mm is cheap to shoot I have heard the barrels are good to go. I'd be more concerned with getting a 9mm mag block that works well, assuming you don't have a dedicated 9mm lower with pinned block such as a Colt or RRA. Cheers |
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Originally Posted By StrangerDanger:
MRP in 22lr config. http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h417/Zzyzx313/022.jpg?t=1297937805 http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h417/Zzyzx313/017.jpg?1297937944 i hope that isnt a dedicated 22lr barrel with a pws fcs556 muzzle break a little overkill
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Originally Posted By sr503:
anyone have any experience with the spikes tactical 9mm mrp barrel (16in)? accuracy? how does this hold up since it isnt CL'd? considering buying this since 9mm is cheap to shoot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5JjgF3Yy9w&feature=related |
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Originally Posted By sr503:
Originally Posted By StrangerDanger:
MRP in 22lr config. http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h417/Zzyzx313/022.jpg?t=1297937805 http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h417/Zzyzx313/017.jpg?1297937944 i hope that isnt a dedicated 22lr barrel with a pws fcs556 muzzle break a little overkill Of course it is. LMT's are all about overkill.
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