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12/9/2010 12:49:00 PM EDT
[#1]
Pg 13!!


Hopefully I get a real camera for Christmas so I can take new pics.
12/9/2010 6:04:18 PM EDT
[#2]
Originally Posted By sr503:
hi im new here but this my mrp that i just finished this morning
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz223/sr503/lmt/DSCN0214.jpg
has a surefire x400 with xt07 switch, BAD lever, geissele ssa trigger, spikes fail zero m16 bcg, and battlecomp. now i just need to go shoot it
thanks


That sure is a pretty one!

I've been planning on buying a rifle length LMT MRP upper to build an AR just like that.  

Thank you for re-inspiring me.

12/9/2010 6:12:33 PM EDT
[#3]
Originally Posted By sr503:
Originally Posted By Duffy:
Very nice, everything is so...black


yeah i went through my fde phase on my last rifle but black seems more appealing to me. if i had the balls to krylon a $2000 rifle i would...but i don't


Ah hell I painted something more expensive

Battle Arms Development
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12/10/2010 3:03:28 AM EDT
[#4]
Originally Posted By Sniper3142:
Originally Posted By sr503:
hi im new here but this my mrp that i just finished this morning
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz223/sr503/lmt/DSCN0214.jpg
has a surefire x400 with xt07 switch, BAD lever, geissele ssa trigger, spikes fail zero m16 bcg, and battlecomp. now i just need to go shoot it
thanks


That sure is a pretty one!

I've been planning on buying a rifle length LMT MRP upper to build an AR just like that.  

Thank you for re-inspiring me.



your very welcome, not bad for a college kid budget check this guy out he had the cheapest mrp uppers(cqb and rifle length) i could findMRP deal he doesnt actually keep everything in stock but if you dont mind the wait its the best deal i could find for a new upper
12/10/2010 3:05:14 AM EDT
[#5]
Originally Posted By Duffy:
Originally Posted By sr503:
Originally Posted By Duffy:
Very nice, everything is so...black


yeah i went through my fde phase on my last rifle but black seems more appealing to me. if i had the balls to krylon a $2000 rifle i would...but i don't


Ah hell I painted something more expensive

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Duffypoo/mrphk.jpg


you must be talking about the ammo hidden in the background that it takes for that thing to have a healthy diet haha very nice
12/10/2010 11:23:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Duffy][Edited] [#6]
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12/11/2010 8:59:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: kar30][Edited] [#7]
figured out a solution
12/11/2010 9:25:53 AM EDT
[#8]
Do you think that maybe LMT might offer barrels in 300 Blackout as an option in the future?  It looks like a decent round to mess around with!
12/11/2010 10:21:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jasonusvi][Edited] [#9]
Originally Posted By LRB45:
Do you think that maybe LMT might offer barrels in 300 Blackout as an option in the future?  It looks like a decent round to mess around with!


Id like them to offer one... they seem to move at a glacial pace given 6.8 is still original saami spec and 1x10 in the new 6.8 piston barrels.  Perhaps they will get around to it in 5-10 years.  Conversely, Noveske jumped on board 300BLK with barrels, uppers, and full guns available even before commercial ammo was released.  Glad DBMG is around to convert so I don't have to wait on LMT anymore.
12/12/2010 10:54:25 AM EDT
[#10]


www.FirearmsTrainingandTactics.com
12/12/2010 4:09:42 PM EDT
[#11]
Originally Posted By LRB45:
Do you think that maybe LMT might offer barrels in 300 Blackout as an option in the future?  It looks like a decent round to mess around with!


Currently the only available option for different barrels and calibers to fit the LMT MRP setup is to send whatever you want to these guys:

http://www.dbmg-llc.com/



12/12/2010 11:21:43 PM EDT
[#12]
Wasn't there a photo of an MRP in Iraq and/or Afghanistan?
Nothing worth having comes easy.
12/16/2010 2:45:40 PM EDT
[#13]
Hey guys, quick question. I'm going SBR (10.5) with my MRP. Wil i have to change the buffer or is the one that came with the gun good to go?
edited-Aimless
12/16/2010 4:38:51 PM EDT
[#14]
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Hey guys, quick question. I'm going SBR (10.5) with my MRP. Wil i have to change the buffer or is the one that came with the gun good to go?


if you already have the h buffer you should be fine, im assuming you have a complete defender lower. if ejection is still not optimal you may have to step up to the h2 or even h3
12/16/2010 4:44:15 PM EDT
[#15]
Originally Posted By sr503:
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Hey guys, quick question. I'm going SBR (10.5) with my MRP. Wil i have to change the buffer or is the one that came with the gun good to go?


if you already have the h buffer you should be fine, im assuming you have a complete defender lower. if ejection is still not optimal you may have to step up to the h2 or even h3


Yeah it was purchased as a complte defender model with CQB upper. The buffer is un-marked.
edited-Aimless
12/16/2010 9:32:42 PM EDT
[#16]
Originally Posted By CujoTwoOne:
Wasn't there a photo of an MRP in Iraq and/or Afghanistan?



12/19/2010 12:34:34 AM EDT
[#17]
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By sr503:
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Hey guys, quick question. I'm going SBR (10.5) with my MRP. Wil i have to change the buffer or is the one that came with the gun good to go?


if you already have the h buffer you should be fine, im assuming you have a complete defender lower. if ejection is still not optimal you may have to step up to the h2 or even h3


Yeah it was purchased as a complte defender model with CQB upper. The buffer is un-marked.


im 99% sure its an h buffer, seeing as its the only buffer lmt sells through their website
12/20/2010 7:59:03 PM EDT
[#18]
Does anyone have photos of their coolest setup for transporting their array of barrels/bolts for their MRP? I'm at four barrels and counting, with two different BCG's so far. Anyone making a barrel pouch similar to what you use for open end wrenches, etc.? I have a 240/249 barrel bag but that's only good for two barrels.
12/20/2010 8:57:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StrangerDanger][Edited] [#19]










Dropped a BAD ASS 45 degree selector in the other day. Haven't posted new photos in a while. The rains out here in the south west make for some interesting lighting to take photos in. Added a few minor enhancements. Finally got around to getting raped at Adams Arms for a couple springs for 15$ shipping.
12/20/2010 9:20:55 PM EDT
[#20]


The 45 degree short throw selector really does look great on your lower
Battle Arms Development
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12/21/2010 9:06:17 AM EDT
[#21]
Originally Posted By mkellett:
Does anyone have photos of their coolest setup for transporting their array of barrels/bolts for their MRP? I'm at four barrels and counting, with two different BCG's so far. Anyone making a barrel pouch similar to what you use for open end wrenches, etc.? I have a 240/249 barrel bag but that's only good for two barrels.


This is what I came up with using double sided velcro... works well but might also like some slip covers for the barrels.   32" discrete bulldog case fits complete 12.5" piston gun set up + 4 barrels.








12/21/2010 3:05:49 PM EDT
[#22]
Originally Posted By StrangerDanger:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5162/5279160234_7f77d3f4fb_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5248/5278553825_6e65791ec2_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5123/5279161120_8cb16c0923_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5050/5278554905_e33e98b090_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5202/5278555391_24790b75f5_b.jpg

Dropped a BAD ASS 45 degree selector in the other day. Haven't posted new photos in a while. The rains out here in the south west make for some interesting lighting to take photos in. Added a few minor enhancements. Finally got around to getting raped at Adams Arms for a couple springs for 15$ shipping.


turned down barrel? i wish thinking of sending mine to adco to be fluted, does it balance the gun out better? how much weight do you think you knocked off?
12/21/2010 5:02:40 PM EDT
[#23]
Yes, the barrel was turned down to .625" by ADCO. They did the same on my 22lr barrel.

It cuts off about 5 - 8 ounces. Definitely shifts the balance rearward. Mine balances at the magwell.
12/21/2010 9:53:59 PM EDT
[#24]
Wait till the shot show they have a few new items coming.
12/22/2010 11:22:46 AM EDT
[#25]
Originally Posted By LMT_Guy:
Wait till the shot show they have a few new items coming.


I have heard 6.8 spc piston conversion?  I'd prolly pick up a 12" piston conversion is 6.8.

Cheers

Failure has far too many fathers. -MMB

I'm goin' to Sha-Boom Sha-Booms! -KPowers

Life is like a shit sandwhich...the more bread you have the less you have to eat.
12/22/2010 1:26:28 PM EDT
[#26]
Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
Originally Posted By LMT_Guy:
Wait till the shot show they have a few new items coming.


I have heard 6.8 spc piston conversion?  I'd prolly pick up a 12" piston conversion is 6.8.

Cheers



A few weeks ago I found out that the 16" 6.8 piston barrels were available but was told they had some issues with 12" 6.8 piston testing and had not gotten back around to it yet (so not available).  I do hope they throw development and offerings into high gear.  But... the F ing chambers are still SPC I... retarded.
12/23/2010 8:36:16 AM EDT
[#27]
Originally Posted By jasonusvi:
Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
Originally Posted By LMT_Guy:
Wait till the shot show they have a few new items coming.


I have heard 6.8 spc piston conversion?  I'd prolly pick up a 12" piston conversion is 6.8.

Cheers



A few weeks ago I found out that the 16" 6.8 piston barrels were available but was told they had some issues with 12" 6.8 piston testing and had not gotten back around to it yet (so not available).  I do hope they throw development and offerings into high gear.  But... the F ing chambers are still SPC I... retarded.


I would like to know also why LMT just doesn't go to the Spec II chambers, seems like most other manufacturers have?
12/23/2010 1:12:12 PM EDT
[#28]
Originally Posted By jasonusvi:
Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
Originally Posted By LMT_Guy:
Wait till the shot show they have a few new items coming.


I have heard 6.8 spc piston conversion?  I'd prolly pick up a 12" piston conversion is 6.8.

Cheers



A few weeks ago I found out that the 16" 6.8 piston barrels were available but was told they had some issues with 12" 6.8 piston testing and had not gotten back around to it yet (so not available).  I do hope they throw development and offerings into high gear.  But... the F ing chambers are still SPC I... retarded.


Thanks for the information.

Cheers

Failure has far too many fathers. -MMB

I'm goin' to Sha-Boom Sha-Booms! -KPowers

Life is like a shit sandwhich...the more bread you have the less you have to eat.
12/24/2010 5:33:03 AM EDT
[#29]
quick question, I'm down range right now and planning my next rifle, also my first to utilize a suppressor. So question being, in rifle lengthed mrp how much barrel do i need to go straight from rail system to aac m4-2000 with little to no gap? any input would be greatly appreciated.
12/24/2010 8:44:29 AM EDT
[#30]
You can't have "no gap" because the suppressor has to have some play in the mount fore and aft. You should look at what caliber/load your barrel will be in and work from what length/twist is optimal for that load, rather than cosmetics (don't succumb to the ninja-itis that is prevalent on the internet). Besides, if you're planning on running a factory LMT barrel, you'll be relegated to certain lengths anyway.

I run a 12" g.i. barrel/bolt in 6.8 with an M4-2000 and there's about one to 1.5" of naked barrel in front of the handguard with that setup. My piston 5.56 barrel is 10.5" and the gas block/piston thingy fills that space and leaves less than an inch behind the suppressor once mounted (again, another M4-2000).

In case you don't already know it, the M4-2000's body doesn't really go past the back edge of the blackout mount, at least on the latest generation of mounts. I think some of the really old Yankee Hill produced mounts had deeper shoulders cut into the body that actually covered part of the barrel, and they would protrude behind the can slightly, but I'm not sure on dimensions of all that and whatnot.
12/24/2010 8:57:35 AM EDT
[#31]
www.FirearmsTrainingandTactics.com
12/25/2010 6:00:48 AM EDT
[#32]
how is that so? I've seen a number of suppressed setups where the can is recessed under the rail itself. Obviously I wouldn't be able to go with a standard barrel but i was under the impression that there were options now for barrel selection.
12/25/2010 10:22:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mkellett][Edited] [#33]
First, and most importantly, an M42000 will not fit inside the diameter of the MRP rail. Second, even if it did, that suppressor has a mechanical latch that must be depressed as the suppressor is unscrewed, so you would have to take the barrel out to unmount the suppressor, which, while possible, would be practically undesirable. And since you can't change the rail system on an MRP, I don't see how it's possible to accomplish what you asked.

Yes, you can now have just about any barrel made to fit the MRP. I just received my Noveske 10.5" .300 barrel back from DBMG for conversion and it fits my MRP perfectly. Nice job, too. I'll be having others done in short order.

I have mounted suppressors under the handguards but using the PRI carbon free float tube (large enough ID to fit the suppressor inside without clearance issues) and they have to be M41000 or the older 762SD without the mechanical latch. Don't make the mistake of assembling an upper like that with a "latch" type can... You may find yourself hacksawing off a handguard to get the can off.
12/25/2010 11:18:23 AM EDT
[#34]
Originally Posted By mkellett:
First, and most importantly, an M42000 will not fit inside the diameter of the MRP rail. Second, even if it did, that suppressor has a mechanical latch that must be depressed as the suppressor is unscrewed, so you would have to take the barrel out to unmount the suppressor, which, while possible, would be practically undesirable. And since you can't change the rail system on an MRP, I don't see how it's possible to accomplish what you asked.

Yes, you can now have just about any barrel made to fit the MRP. I just received my Noveske 10.5" .300 barrel back from DBMG for conversion and it fits my MRP perfectly. Nice job, too. I'll be having others done in short order.

I have mounted suppressors under the handguards but using the PRI carbon free float tube (large enough ID to fit the suppressor inside without clearance issues) and they have to be M41000 or the older 762SD without the mechanical latch. Don't make the mistake of assembling an upper like that with a "latch" type can... You may find yourself hacksawing off a handguard to get the can off.


Pics of your 300?  Going to keep the bead blast or coat it?
12/25/2010 12:00:26 PM EDT
[#35]
thats just the sort of information i was looking for, that said, isn't that the joy of the mrp, i could easily have a barrel just for this purpose and not really need to worry much about removing the can without the barrel itself. So you say the m4-1000 could fit under the rail? and if so what length barrel to have it barely recess?
12/25/2010 3:06:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jasonusvi][Edited] [#36]
Originally Posted By BushyBlaster:
thats just the sort of information i was looking for, that said, isn't that the joy of the mrp, i could easily have a barrel just for this purpose and not really need to worry much about removing the can without the barrel itself. So you say the m4-1000 could fit under the rail? and if so what length barrel to have it barely recess?


Are there any suppressors that fit inside the hand guard?  It is a benefit that the entire barrel can be removed and hence allow you to attach and remove a suppressor via barrel removal.  I think a 7" or 8" 300 Blackout with a long DeGroat suppressor (assuming its skinny enough) inside either an CQB or Rifle Length MRP would be very cool.  Ill have to go measure max diameter that will fit and compare to suppressor stats.

One of the benefits of the MRP is that the rail not too fat or oblong but this efficient design may disallow most suppressors to fit underneath.  Perhaps it would work for a 9mm set up with a 9mm can.

ETA:  I just pulled my barrel and measured... looks like a suppressor of between 1 1/8 and 1 1/4 diameter will fit under the hand guard.  So 1 1/4 DeGroats might work for 9mm or subsonic 300BLK (have to ask if they will stand up to supersonic 300BLK).
12/25/2010 6:22:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mkellett][Edited] [#37]
None of the AAC rifle cans will fit inside the MRP rails as far as I can fit. The M41000 and M42000 are the same (or pretty much the same) outside diameter, but the M41000 lacks the mechanical locking mechanism. As stated before, you can fit one of the AAC rifle cans (M41000, M42000, 762SD) inside a P.R.I. carbon free float tube (the same one found on the MK12 MOD 0, but that forearm cannot be fitted to an MRP by any means I'm aware of.

Here's some crappy iPhone pics of the 10.5" Noveske .300 barrel with an old model 762SD installed:



12/25/2010 7:14:09 PM EDT
[#38]
Originally Posted By mkellett:
None of the AAC rifle cans will fit inside the MRP rails as far as I can fit. The M41000 and M42000 are the same (or pretty much the same) outside diameter, but the M41000 lacks the mechanical locking mechanism. As stated before, you can fit one of the AAC rifle cans (M41000, M42000, 762SD) inside a P.R.I. carbon free float tube (the same one found on the MK12 MOD 0, but that forearm cannot be fitted to an MRP by any means I'm aware of.

Here's some crappy iPhone pics of the 10.5" Noveske .300 barrel with an old model 762SD installed:

http://gallery.me.com/mkellett/100072/01.jpg?derivative=medium&source=web.jpg&type=medium&ver=12933199710001
http://gallery.me.com/mkellett/100072/03/web.jpg?ver=12933199750001


Quick question, I'm not seeing the 10.5" 300 barrel on Noveske's site, just the 10" barrel, are they gonna be manufacturing the 10.5" barrel again?
12/25/2010 8:25:16 PM EDT
[#39]
Follow the thread... I had a Noveske barrel converted by DBMG. Until LMT decides to get in the .300 game, that's your only option (or until Spikes or somebody else decides to make one instead).
12/25/2010 9:34:33 PM EDT
[#40]
Originally Posted By slipjett:
Originally Posted By mkellett:
None of the AAC rifle cans will fit inside the MRP rails as far as I can fit. The M41000 and M42000 are the same (or pretty much the same) outside diameter, but the M41000 lacks the mechanical locking mechanism. As stated before, you can fit one of the AAC rifle cans (M41000, M42000, 762SD) inside a P.R.I. carbon free float tube (the same one found on the MK12 MOD 0, but that forearm cannot be fitted to an MRP by any means I'm aware of.

Here's some crappy iPhone pics of the 10.5" Noveske .300 barrel with an old model 762SD installed:

http://gallery.me.com/mkellett/100072/01.jpg?derivative=medium&source=web.jpg&type=medium&ver=12933199710001
http://gallery.me.com/mkellett/100072/03/web.jpg?ver=12933199750001


Quick question, I'm not seeing the 10.5" 300 barrel on Noveske's site, just the 10" barrel, are they gonna be manufacturing the 10.5" barrel again?


10.5" was the 300FB configuration... Noveske confirmed more recent 300FB chambers are within 300BLK spec.  I have not read anything to indicate why they decided to go with 10" rather than 10.5" for the new run.  Perhaps since they are also doing 8" now it might have something to do with how many barrels they can get out of a long blank (could be wrong).
12/25/2010 10:18:42 PM EDT
[#41]
Will a 10" barrel work in the CQB chassis?
12/25/2010 10:32:53 PM EDT
[#42]
It should work, the flash suppressor will be pretty close to the end of the hand guard.
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12/26/2010 12:05:39 AM EDT
[#43]
Originally Posted By slipjett:
Will a 10" barrel work in the CQB chassis?


See the photos above. Mine's a 10.5". Not much room left there IMO.
12/26/2010 1:12:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jasonusvi][Edited] [#44]
Pic below is a Noveske 10.5" but it also has a bead blasted thread adapter on the end (a little difficult to see) for my pistol suppressor and pistol vortex.  I do think 10" will work but you could add a same thread adapter in a pinch to extend a 10" for QD mount or threaded can.


12/26/2010 2:19:30 AM EDT
[#45]
thanks for the pic, that said i could send my barrel to be modified so that a can is just about flush with the rail, a few mm of space to keep it off the rail, and there should be no issues. Or am i mistaken? If possible what kind of length would i be looking for in a barrel on a rifle length mrp?
12/27/2010 1:17:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: buddyhoohaw][Edited] [#46]
Originally Posted By BushyBlaster:
thanks for the pic, that said i could send my barrel to be modified so that a can is just about flush with the rail, a few mm of space to keep it off the rail, and there should be no issues. Or am i mistaken? If possible what kind of length would i be looking for in a barrel on a rifle length mrp?


Attached is a pic directly from Surefire's website illustrating an FA556-212 can mounted on an MRP with 10.5" DI barrel.  As you can see it is pretty damn close to being flush with the business end of the rail.  I have been waiting on a Form 3 to clear on one of these cans for 5 weeks and then I get to wait on the Form 4; it's killing me.  I plan on running my can with my 12" piston MRP upper but i'd also like to pick up the 10.5" DI barrel just because of the picture below.  



Cheers

Failure has far too many fathers. -MMB

I'm goin' to Sha-Boom Sha-Booms! -KPowers

Life is like a shit sandwhich...the more bread you have the less you have to eat.
12/27/2010 10:44:30 PM EDT
[#47]
12/28/2010 7:50:49 AM EDT
[#48]
Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
Originally Posted By BushyBlaster:
thanks for the pic, that said i could send my barrel to be modified so that a can is just about flush with the rail, a few mm of space to keep it off the rail, and there should be no issues. Or am i mistaken? If possible what kind of length would i be looking for in a barrel on a rifle length mrp?


Attached is a pic directly from Surefire's website illustrating an FA556-212 can mounted on an MRP with 10.5" DI barrel.  As you can see it is pretty damn close to being flush with the business end of the rail.  I have been waiting on a Form 3 to clear on one of these cans for 5 weeks and then I get to wait on the Form 4; it's killing me.  I plan on running my can with my 12" piston MRP upper but i'd also like to pick up the 10.5" DI barrel just because of the picture below.  

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/buddyhoohaw/FA556-212_ghost_xlarge2_24466.png

Cheers



isn't that on a cqb upper though? i'm looking for rifle length
12/28/2010 8:03:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: buddyhoohaw][Edited] [#49]
Originally Posted By BushyBlaster:
Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
Originally Posted By BushyBlaster:
thanks for the pic, that said i could send my barrel to be modified so that a can is just about flush with the rail, a few mm of space to keep it off the rail, and there should be no issues. Or am i mistaken? If possible what kind of length would i be looking for in a barrel on a rifle length mrp?


Attached is a pic directly from Surefire's website illustrating an FA556-212 can mounted on an MRP with 10.5" DI barrel.  As you can see it is pretty damn close to being flush with the business end of the rail.  I have been waiting on a Form 3 to clear on one of these cans for 5 weeks and then I get to wait on the Form 4; it's killing me.  I plan on running my can with my 12" piston MRP upper but i'd also like to pick up the 10.5" DI barrel just because of the picture below.  

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/buddyhoohaw/FA556-212_ghost_xlarge2_24466.png

Cheers



isn't that on a cqb upper though? i'm looking for rifle length


Oops.  I guess on a rifle length MRP you would have to go with the 14.5" carbine length barrel or chop a 16" middy to get close to flush.

Cheers



Failure has far too many fathers. -MMB

I'm goin' to Sha-Boom Sha-Booms! -KPowers

Life is like a shit sandwhich...the more bread you have the less you have to eat.
1/4/2011 9:56:28 PM EDT
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