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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/26/2021 10:24:09 PM EDT
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Same here, I really wanted a non BT marked, but the upgrade with the ambi bolt release and a usable barrel thread is a plus for me, just ordered a Warcomp M15x1.
I dont mind the keymod, as I was able to get my light and QD mounted with Arisaka mounts and covered the rest of the keymod slots up with Railscales minidots. |
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Posted: 8/27/2021 8:44:35 PM EDT
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I’ll buy one when it comes with an adjustable gas block.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2021 3:02:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lordboogie: I think the barrels are different between the first import batch of Haenel marked CR223s and the BT-15s. For one, I notice the barrel profile of my B&T BT-15 is different from the original CR223 shown in the TFBTV coverage video, so it's possible the thread pitchs are different as well. I hope the B&T BT-15s are indeed M15x1, then I can use the Warcomp natively. I'm going to email C.G. Haenel directly with my serial and try to find out. Update received response from Haenel: “The BT-15 comes with a metric M15X1 Thread and the barrel is not chrome lined. We use our own cold hammer forged barrels from high quality steel. This is a big difference to the regular button rifled barrels.” The threads are M14x1 RH ... i just got an adapter today and verified. So you all are going to have to go the adapter route |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2021 3:03:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lordboogie: I think the barrels are different between the first import batch of Haenel marked CR223s and the BT-15s. For one, I notice the barrel profile of my B&T BT-15 is different from the original CR223 shown in the TFBTV coverage video, so it's possible the thread pitchs are different as well. I hope the B&T BT-15s are indeed M15x1, then I can use the Warcomp natively. I'm going to email C.G. Haenel directly with my serial and try to find out. Update received response from Haenel: “The BT-15 comes with a metric M15X1 Thread and the barrel is not chrome lined. We use our own cold hammer forged barrels from high quality steel. This is a big difference to the regular button rifled barrels.” That is interesting as mine is the Haenel only marked one. That would be good news if they changed it. |
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Posted: 8/28/2021 3:55:02 AM EDT
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Anyone have pictures of the B&T marked guns that they would share? I'm curious what they look like, I've only gotten to look at the CR marked ones.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/3/2021 8:26:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/12/2021 7:42:00 AM EDT
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Any more Range reports?
And they are 14x1 not 15x1 metric? I have a Surefire SOCOM. I would rather not have to use an adapter on a $2500-3000 pistol. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 11/23/2021 8:53:56 PM EDT
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Short Stroke Gas Piston.
Self Regulating Gas System. Now, $2,199.00 Shipped. Who knows how long these will last... At that price, I'm in! |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 9:10:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m62-m76: Short Stroke Gas Piston. Self Regulating Gas System. Now, $2,199.00 Shipped. Who knows how long these will last... At that price, I'm in! Where at? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 11/29/2021 3:59:15 AM EDT
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Bereli.com
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MN, USA
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Posted: 12/13/2021 9:14:45 PM EDT
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They are trying to offload thier keymod versions for less to make room for Mlok version. Mlok version is already showing up and other places.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 12/14/2021 4:26:52 AM EDT
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I am good with keymod at that price!
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USA
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Posted: 12/14/2021 7:11:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MGYSGT8541: They are trying to offload thier keymod versions for less to make room for Mlok version. Mlok version is already showing up and other places. Do HK 416 rails fit it? |
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LVA
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Posted: 12/16/2021 5:46:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JhBasil]
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Does the HK416 charging handle fits CR223? Can anyone please measure lengthwise? Or already know alternatives available?
Was surprised to find out AR15 charging handle is 5mm too short. Haenel asks for 150eur(170 USD) for ambi one and it is nowhere near the aftermarket handles at that price point should be... Here is my stubby 10.5" |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 1/9/2022 10:42:03 AM EDT
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I’ve seen MLOK version for 2400 shipped. Pricing definitely coming down
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/10/2022 2:22:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: m62-m76]
[#16]
Love Mine!
It's like getting an HK416 for $2,200!!!! |
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Posted: 1/10/2022 10:55:38 AM EDT
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/10/2022 2:42:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: m62-m76]
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I don't think you need that.
The gas system is self regulating. Just read that part description, don't know about that one. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2022 4:33:40 PM EDT
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Self regulating means it will have more recoil then a regulated gas block. Sig 516 gas black is awesome. I have a Colt Piston carbine and it's also self regulated. You can feel the difference.
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Posted: 1/13/2022 8:25:46 AM EDT
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Anyone know which parts between the Haenel and 416 are actually interchangeable? As that was part of the evidence submitted by HK to the German courts, I'd be interested to know what's common between the two?
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Posted: 1/26/2022 10:10:23 PM EDT
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I have a KM version and just got an FDE one in. Quick check on color-match with a coyote tan B5 grip and looks good (waiting on an FDE SBA3 that arrives tomorrow). Sadly, B&T installed the front sight one slot back and the screw was improperly machined so it can't removed without damage (and no reply to email). I know it's cheap but the gun wasn't so would like them to make it right (the seller said they would but I'm sure that means stealing from another gun).
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DEU
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Posted: 1/29/2022 3:30:24 AM EDT
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Haenel did not convince me in direct comparison to HK. The feel was less valuable, but that is ultimately my subjective impression.
The gunporn factor is also significantly higher with HK. The design is simply more visually coherent for me. |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 6:49:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PGT_0673]
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I own Sig 516's, two German-made HK MR223's and these Haenels. They all feel a little bit different and honestly, I don't look at it like a choice. But, if I was only to own one and money was no object, the FDE MR223 for sure (because brand caché and colors and quality).
The safeties are inconsistent and now taking the grips off, I understand why. There's a torsion spring inside the trigger area of the lower that does most of the work and the coil spring inside the grip is only preload. I put B5 grips on mine because the B&T grips are too flat and skinny (smaller than my normal B&T's even). 
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USA
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Posted: 1/31/2022 7:11:43 PM EDT
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Are the mlok ones chrome lined ?
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Posted: 2/3/2022 3:42:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seekwolf: Are the mlok ones chrome lined ? Good question And has anyone run one with a can and the non-adjustable gas block ? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/12/2022 10:21:57 AM EDT
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 Picked mine up last week. Replaced with an A2 grip and geissele mr556/hk416 trigger. Had to remove the safety and pins. I'm not sure if standard pins hold up but it seems to thus far. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/12/2022 10:25:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seekwolf: Are the mlok ones chrome lined ? Yep mine is 100% for sure chrome lined. Looked at it with a bore scope and it is indeed chrome. |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 1:53:05 PM EDT
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I’ve been thinking of getting one of these, how do they shoot? Are they as “robust” as the 416 or was it toned down?
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2022 2:02:58 PM EDT
[#29]
Mine shoots awesome.
tight groups easy to clean. Love it! |
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USA
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Posted: 3/14/2022 6:50:53 PM EDT
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Negative video review
 The B&T/HAENEL CR223 thank god i borrowed and did not buy. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2022 8:59:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dalle0001]
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Quote HistoryThere are two unique features of the Haenel: 1) it's 100% German made, and 2) it beat the HK, at least for a time, to be selected for the German military. That's going to get a lot of heads turned. A lot of parts can be interchanged with the 416 too. I think the gas rings and handguards can be used but the handguard will be a bit over the height of the upper. For me, if I had to rate the negatives: 1) The charging handle is non standard. So you can't swap it out 2) The fire pin has these c-clamps that's a pain the rear to swap out. As far as I know you can use standard AR15 FCG pins but you'll just have this weird hole gap. However, if your trigger can accept the c-clamps it'll look professional. 3) You can only use a select group of triggers. I'm a bit surprised the rifle didn't come standard with a 2-stage trigger like a LMT or such. For the price, it should have came with a better trigger, imo. 4) You can't change out the flash hider. I heard various things about it but not sure if they are true or not. Haenel hasn't been very open about the specs and don't seem to answer emails. Overall though it's a great rifle. But don't expect it to be like an AR15 here in the USA. It is not. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/21/2022 8:34:54 PM EDT
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I did some switching on my Haenel. Switched the trigger from the MR556 one to the Timney 2 stage trigger with the long pull. This allowed me to use the original factory c-clip pins. I also switched out from the elcan to the trijicon rmr and swapped the sling for a vickers with the light mounted in the m-lok slots. I also use the qd swivel mount into the mlok and switched the end plate for the qd swivel slot. The rifle feels a lot smoother and lighter now. I like this configuration and will use it heavily now.
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USA
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Posted: 3/22/2022 6:14:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dalle0001: 2) it beat the HK, at least for a time, to be selected for the German military. That's going to get a lot of heads turned. I don't think it was selected because it was actually better, but because the German government has had egg on their face after H&K got cleared on the G36 debacle. That and its my guess Haenal undercut H&K by a lot for the contract. |
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Posted: 3/22/2022 11:33:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dalle0001: Yep mine is 100% for sure chrome lined. Looked at it with a bore scope and it is indeed chrome. So the Keymod ones with or without B&T mark both come with non-chrome line? And the only ones that do are with Mlok? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/23/2022 9:23:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CoralBark: So the Keymod ones with or without B&T mark both come with non-chrome line? And the only ones that do are with Mlok? You know it is hard to say. What I understand B&T got the wrong order initially. They wanted what the current version was. Apparently a lot of confusion all around. So bad I don't even think B&T really knows what they got, lol. I looked at the bore from a bore scope. It's completely shiny like you would find in a chrome lined bore. I some rifles in stainless steel and I did have one that was nitrided bare steel. From what I seen in the Haenel, it is indeed chrome but I have no idea why the other poster stated it was nitrided. If it is, it is probably the most polished, shiny bare steel I ever seen. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 6/12/2022 4:17:56 PM EDT
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I have a Haenel CR223 love the platform just hated the trigger, so I tried a trigger from Wilson Combat TR-TTU-M2 two stage trigger, I just took it out and it ran two 30rd mags through it without an issue…
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CO, USA
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:33:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Timeflies]
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Does the Haenel lower work with any milspec upper or is it proprietary?
@PGT_0673 Eta: Asked because I have read conflicting info regarding the MR556 and 416 compatibility with other uppers. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/30/2022 8:35:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Timeflies: Does the Haenel lower work with any milspec upper or is it proprietary? @PGT_0673 Eta: Asked because I have read conflicting info regarding the MR556 and 416 compatibility with other uppers. The MR556/HK416 are compatible with any mil-spec AR15 lower. The problem is some of the triggers aren't full height hammers so they won't activate the safety lever on the carrier. The same issue is with the CR223 lower. You have to make sure whatever trigger you use have the proper height. Also you can use the standard trigger pins but they have to go inside these raised notches on the lower. You can use the factory pins with the c-clip but they can be a pain to put back and I found they won't go into the giessele MR556 trigger. Now keep in mind there are two CR223 lowers. One is an ambi and one is some sort of half-ambi without the bolt release. With that said, I do know the ambi one seems to be milspec but the original imported one that doesn't have the ambi bolt release doesn't seem to be mil spec. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 7/30/2022 9:01:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Timeflies]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dalle0001: The MR556/HK416 are compatible with any mil-spec AR15 lower. The problem is some of the triggers aren't full height hammers so they won't activate the safety lever on the carrier. The same issue is with the CR223 lower. You have to make sure whatever trigger you use have the proper height. Also you can use the standard trigger pins but they have to go inside these raised notches on the lower. You can use the factory pins with the c-clip but they can be a pain to put back and I found they won't go into the giessele MR556 trigger. Now keep in mind there are two CR223 lowers. One is an ambi and one is some sort of half-ambi without the bolt release. With that said, I do know the ambi one seems to be milspec but the original imported one that doesn't have the ambi bolt release doesn't seem to be mil spec. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dalle0001: Originally Posted By Timeflies: Does the Haenel lower work with any milspec upper or is it proprietary? @PGT_0673 Eta: Asked because I have read conflicting info regarding the MR556 and 416 compatibility with other uppers. The MR556/HK416 are compatible with any mil-spec AR15 lower. The problem is some of the triggers aren't full height hammers so they won't activate the safety lever on the carrier. The same issue is with the CR223 lower. You have to make sure whatever trigger you use have the proper height. Also you can use the standard trigger pins but they have to go inside these raised notches on the lower. You can use the factory pins with the c-clip but they can be a pain to put back and I found they won't go into the giessele MR556 trigger. Now keep in mind there are two CR223 lowers. One is an ambi and one is some sort of half-ambi without the bolt release. With that said, I do know the ambi one seems to be milspec but the original imported one that doesn't have the ambi bolt release doesn't seem to be mil spec. That helps a little, but also introduces more questions. I am hoping it will work with any DI upper. |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 8:12:29 PM EDT
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 Attached Fileits a 15x1 surefire warcomp had to use a 7.62 spacer as there is a small gap when installed. I bought this because I wanted a 416 but wasn't gonna pay the outrageous 416 price. I'm very happy with it. its the keymod version, I installed VLTOR 1913 rail sections because I'm a quad rail guy. |
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Posted: 8/22/2022 6:41:21 PM EDT
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Get them while you can B&T is no longer importing these and I doubt if any others will be coming. As far as barrels it seems the m4 profiled ones whether keymod or mlok were chrome lined barrels probably just used the same barrel that was going in the contract guns. Not sure about the earlier guns with the fatter barrel. The milling marks some refer too are intentional and not raw machining marks. These guns are top notch and MUCH better than an mr556 cut down/profiled/gasblock mod HK upper. I have had them both.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2022 8:12:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: llllllllll]
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I'm pretty happy with mine so far. Only about 600 rounds through it on two trips but no issues.. the replaceable part where the charging handle seats in did break in several places but it doesn't affect anything besides being an annoyance. The annoyance is compounded by the fact that B&T offers no replaceable parts as only about 1,500 were imported, and attempting to communicate with haenel doesnt seem possible. They do not respond what-so-ever lol. Need to slap a g45 and rotex x on this yet. I kept the standard A2 muzzle device they sold with it on.
This is an early 300's S/N with keymod. Some of the models they lasered the markings onto have the "BT-15" labeled directly next to the "CR223". At some point in the 300 Serial numbers B&T switched from lasering the markings on how my rifle has it down to the aforementioned style . Import date is December of 21. Barrel profile is non-tapered, presumably chrome lined barrel based on the information in this thread.   If anyone reading this now or in the future ever had any parts from this rifle they wanted to sell I might be interested in buying, just send me a message. |
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ITA
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:27:50 PM EDT
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Haenel prices going crazy in 3.. 2.. 1…
https://www.overtdefense.com/2022/12/30/german-court-rules-haenel-must-recall-destroy-cr223s/ |
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AFG
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Posted: 1/18/2023 7:21:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frens: Haenel prices going crazy in 3.. 2.. 1… https://www.overtdefense.com/2022/12/30/german-court-rules-haenel-must-recall-destroy-cr223s/ real shit 
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ITA
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Posted: 1/21/2023 8:48:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By llllllllll: real shit There’s actually an update https://youtu.be/p2XaI-4phMI |
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GRC
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Posted: 12/2/2023 3:02:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheodorosCR223]
[#46]
I would like to say a BIG hello to everybody .
I am writing to you from Corfu Greece in Europe . Two months ago I purchased my Haenel CR223 rifle with a 14.5'' cold hammer forged barrel , serial number 8970 and production in 2023 Swapped my stock for an IMI defence , I run 30 rounds mags also from IMI defence , a Magpul MOE K2 pistol grip and a Magpul foregrip I chose the haenel match trigger which comes with an adjustable screw and if tuned correctly it becomes so light that I may dare say it's a bid too light . 2.7lbs Suppressors are illegal in my country so I was hoping to fit a muzzle brake but I found it's next to impossible to remove the A2 style flash hider ... I also hate that haenel only produced a one and only fixed length handguard . At least in Europe all 12.5/14.5/16.6 guns are fitted with the same in length 10.6'' mlok handguard . Weird . No other options available . I would love a 12.5'' or 13'' handguard I also noticed a '' hole '' on the gas block and some curve work on the mlok rail as well . Does anybody know why the gas block has this hole on its base ??? A few hours ago I completed my first 500 rounds using cheap Magtech and GGG 55gr ( which you probably have not heard of ) and it was only a few months ago that civilians in my country where allowed to purchase ARs .... Only for competition-sport shooting so bear with me cause apart from call of duty and a few other PS4 games this is the first time in my life owning an AR-15 platform ....  " /> take me to bp" /> " /> |
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USA
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Posted: 12/7/2023 12:17:38 PM EDT
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Does anyone have pictures of the Haenel gas system? I'd like to compare them to Caracal's 816 gas system.
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USA
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Posted: 12/7/2023 12:18:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Craigjones56: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/502775/6FF5E9FE-06BB-4154-82A3-1F06108E2979_jpe-1815173.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/502775/DEE6003E-5C73-4709-81FE-89AC592CAB28_jpe-1815174.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/502775/0084E69D-571E-47B8-9B55-71DB4AB270EA_jpe-1815175.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/502775/682BDBFE-11B5-4A6D-9D59-D8D022EFC4F5_jpe-1815177.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/502775/E84355C3-0060-40D9-9BC3-948A03471AC3_jpe-1815178.JPG If you ever decide to waste some time for another online enthusiast ... please upload pics of the gas system disassembled. |
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USA
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Posted: 12/7/2023 12:22:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheodorosCR223: I would like to say a BIG hello to everybody . I am writing to you from Corfu Greece in Europe . Two months ago I purchased my Haenel CR223 rifle with a 14.5'' cold hammer forged barrel , serial number 8970 and production in 2023 Swapped my stock for an IMI defence , I run 30 rounds mags also from IMI defence , a Magpul MOE K2 pistol grip and a Magpul foregrip I chose the haenel match trigger which comes with an adjustable screw and if tuned correctly it becomes so light that I may dare say it's a bid too light . 2.7lbs Suppressors are illegal in my country so I was hoping to fit a muzzle brake but I found it's next to impossible to remove the A2 style flash hider ... I also hate that haenel only produced a one and only fixed length handguard . At least in Europe all 12.5/14.5/16.6 guns are fitted with the same in length 10.6'' mlok handguard . Weird . No other options available . I would love a 12.5'' or 13'' handguard I also noticed a '' hole '' on the gas block and some curve work on the mlok rail as well . Does anybody know why the gas block has this hole on its base ??? A few hours ago I completed my first 500 rounds using cheap Magtech and GGG 55gr ( which you probably have not heard of ) and it was only a few months ago that civilians in my country where allowed to purchase ARs .... Only for competition-sport shooting so bear with me cause apart from call of duty and a few other PS4 games this is the first time in my life owning an AR-15 platform .... https://i.postimg.cc/Pr8vDcHZ/IMG-20231202-145524-689.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.postimg.cc/Pr8vDcHZ/IMG-20231202-145524-689.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/bdX5vM08/IMG-20231202-204352-916.jpgtake me to bp" target="_blank">https://i.postimg.cc/bdX5vM08/IMG-20231202-204352-916.jpgtake me to bp https://i.postimg.cc/qRxVWp2n/IMG-20231202-204107-778.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.postimg.cc/qRxVWp2n/IMG-20231202-204107-778.jpg Welcome to ARFCOM, and thanks for posting. You have a very nice rifle. It looks like freedom is spreading to Greece, congrats! |
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Posted: 12/8/2023 9:39:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheodorosCR223: I would like to say a BIG hello to everybody . I am writing to you from Corfu Greece in Europe . Two months ago I purchased my Haenel CR223 rifle with a 14.5'' cold hammer forged barrel , serial number 8970 and production in 2023 Swapped my stock for an IMI defence , I run 30 rounds mags also from IMI defence , a Magpul MOE K2 pistol grip and a Magpul foregrip I chose the haenel match trigger which comes with an adjustable screw and if tuned correctly it becomes so light that I may dare say it's a bid too light . 2.7lbs Suppressors are illegal in my country so I was hoping to fit a muzzle brake but I found it's next to impossible to remove the A2 style flash hider ... I also hate that haenel only produced a one and only fixed length handguard . At least in Europe all 12.5/14.5/16.6 guns are fitted with the same in length 10.6'' mlok handguard . Weird . No other options available . I would love a 12.5'' or 13'' handguard I also noticed a '' hole '' on the gas block and some curve work on the mlok rail as well . Does anybody know why the gas block has this hole on its base ??? A few hours ago I completed my first 500 rounds using cheap Magtech and GGG 55gr ( which you probably have not heard of ) and it was only a few months ago that civilians in my country where allowed to purchase ARs .... Only for competition-sport shooting so bear with me cause apart from call of duty and a few other PS4 games this is the first time in my life owning an AR-15 platform .... https://i.postimg.cc/Pr8vDcHZ/IMG-20231202-145524-689.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.postimg.cc/Pr8vDcHZ/IMG-20231202-145524-689.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/bdX5vM08/IMG-20231202-204352-916.jpgtake me to bp" target="_blank">https://i.postimg.cc/bdX5vM08/IMG-20231202-204352-916.jpgtake me to bp https://i.postimg.cc/qRxVWp2n/IMG-20231202-204107-778.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.postimg.cc/qRxVWp2n/IMG-20231202-204107-778.jpg Welcome to ARFCOM. I do not know why there is a large hole in the bottom of your gas block. Makes no sense. I would email Haenel and ask them. Sorry to hear suppressors are illegal in Greece. You should tell them you need one to defend against another Trojan (cough……Turkish) invasion. It appears suppressors, in general, are less restricted in most European countries compared to what we have to go through here in the USA. Are there no after market handguards for Haenels? Maybe B&T will make one. We are very familiar with Lithuanian GGG ammo. What little we get stateside gets snatched up fairly quick. They are very well regarded, and I hope to see more offerings from them in the future. They are on the level of Germany’s MEN and Israel’s IMI. Regardless, we were able to purchase 10.5” versions of your gun as pistols until only recently. Perhaps some day we’ll get more offerings. HK screws us with a neutered version of the 416 called the MR 556 (no chrome lined barrel). You will love the AR platform. It is very versatile and a pleasure to shoot. I recommend picking a flash hider over a muzzle brake to save your ears. Find an armorer’s manual for your Haenel (if they offer one) and I encourage you to seek out an armorer’s course along with shooting courses. The bad press against the AR platform is unwarranted. It’s a great rifle, and there’s a reason it is so popular. Thank you and god bless  and beware of the Turks. 
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