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Link Posted: 6/25/2022 11:14:41 AM EDT
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I'd like to see pictures of high end, broken CH's
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Radian.


Strike Industries.


I think pretty much all of the current big names have had failures posted over the years. Geissele, Radian, POF, new BCM. I’ve still never heard of the Vltor breaking, but not to say they haven’t either.
Link Posted: 7/10/2022 6:33:58 PM EDT
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GI CH with a Gasbuster or Strike latch works and will save you some money.
Link Posted: 7/11/2022 1:19:27 PM EDT
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If concerned with strength, there is always the Power Custom steel charge handle.

=Power Custom steel charge handle
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bad idea it was designed to be forged Aluminum for a reason
Link Posted: 7/11/2022 10:53:57 PM EDT
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I have a BMC mod 4, it works pretty good. It keeps one sided pulls centered and it doesn’t stick out too far.
Link Posted: 7/12/2022 10:39:56 PM EDT
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I'd like to see pictures of high end, broken CH's
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If concerned with strength, there is always the Power Custom steel charge handle.

=Power Custom steel charge handle


I'd like to see pictures of high end, broken CH's


I’ve seen two bent Geisseles and used to see PRI gas busters break the roll pin back when they were about the only ones.

I never had an upgraded charging handle until I got a prototype Vltor/BCM in ‘08 and I’ve been using those ever since.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 9:55:01 PM EDT
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Geissele airborne. Its the perfect size.
Link Posted: 7/15/2022 1:13:31 AM EDT
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Be very suspicious of charging handles with large, extended latching mechanisms because they tend to get caught on damned near everything, especially when you don't want them to.  I got rid of the early model charging handles with the extended latches because of their tendency to hook onto and catch on damned near anything.
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Instead of GI, the Radian Raptor SL handles are wider than those, it's also not as wide as the handles on the standard Raptor. I found the Radian Raptor SL NP3 at a good discount this week. If you're looking at the Raptor LT due to price, you could pay $5 more for SL or standard.
Link Posted: 10/19/2022 9:35:29 PM EDT
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An ambi isn't really necessary unless you're left handed or you think it looks cool. For me, I love the Vltor Mod 4 as it is very smooth and has an extended grippy latch.
Link Posted: 10/30/2022 12:38:35 AM EDT
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Radian Raptor
Link Posted: 10/30/2022 2:11:17 PM EDT
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bad idea it was designed to be forged Aluminum for a reason
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If concerned with strength, there is always the Power Custom steel charge handle.

=Power Custom steel charge handle

bad idea it was designed to be forged Aluminum for a reason

And why was that, may I ask?

Oh yeah,
Murphy's rules of combat: Remember your weapon is made by the cheapest bidder!
Link Posted: 10/30/2022 2:47:07 PM EDT
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And why was that, may I ask?

Oh yeah,
Murphy's rules of combat: Remember your weapon is made by the cheapest bidder!
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Then why not steel?
Link Posted: 10/30/2022 3:09:43 PM EDT
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Then why not steel?
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Wear

Steel will eat up the Al upper because it is harder.  


BTW

I picked up a Warhammer recently and like it.  The mod2 I got vents gasses well and shooting last week the first few shots showed visibly that the vents work as I cooked off oils in the BCG and upper.
Link Posted: 10/30/2022 3:19:23 PM EDT
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Geissele is the best looking. If I had to do it again I'd go with an ACH instead of a SCH.
Link Posted: 10/31/2022 12:51:10 PM EDT
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Steel will eat up the Al upper because it is harder.  
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Oh, I get it, that is why I see so many bolt carriers wear right through upper receivers...

Now the truth is that bearing surfaces need to be of dissimilar materials, engineering 101.
Link Posted: 10/31/2022 1:07:32 PM EDT
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Oh, I get it, that is why I see so many bolt carriers wear right through upper receivers... https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/anim_lol.gif

Now the truth is that bearing surfaces need to be of dissimilar materials, engineering 101.
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BCGs slide with very little contact or friction.

Manipulation of a charging handle pinches into the upper
Link Posted: 10/31/2022 1:34:14 PM EDT
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BCM 4B works great without breaking the bank…
Link Posted: 10/31/2022 2:20:31 PM EDT
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Wear

Steel will eat up the Al upper because it is harder.  


BTW

I picked up a Warhammer recently and like it.  The mod2 I got vents gasses well and shooting last week the first few shots showed visibly that the vents work as I cooked off oils in the BCG and upper.
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Wear

Steel will eat up the Al upper because it is harder.  


BTW

I picked up a Warhammer recently and like it.  The mod2 I got vents gasses well and shooting last week the first few shots showed visibly that the vents work as I cooked off oils in the BCG and upper.

The bolt carrier, the carrier key and cam pin are steel.  They move faster, more frequently, and impart higher loads on the inside of the upper receiver than the charging handle ever can and are made from steel with no serious wear problems.

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BCGs slide with very little contact or friction.
Sorry, but nope.  The cam pin is constantly pushed to the left side while the carrier moves forward, due to the inertial of the bolt and the stripping force from the magazine.  Similarly, the carrier is pushed up by the rounds in the magazine.  And the carrier key sees a reaction torque while moving forward from the cam pin rotating the bolt during locking.

Quoted:Manipulation of a charging handle pinches into the upper

How does it "pinch" into the upper.  The contact surfaces between the carrier and charging handle are square to each other.
Link Posted: 11/5/2022 7:17:17 AM EDT
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It’s just a charging handle.  Even under stress I’m fine
with USGI charging handle. JMHO / KISS
Link Posted: 11/10/2022 5:14:08 PM EDT
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This was interesting:



Wonder what ever happened to them?
Link Posted: 11/25/2022 1:07:49 AM EDT
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Radian Raptor AR-15 Ambidextrous Charging Handle NP3
Model # R0005

Worth every penny.
Link Posted: 11/25/2022 10:24:26 PM EDT
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And so it begins. Charging handle turns into new trigger turn into FF hand guard turns into new barrel adjustable gas block better sights scope and so forth.
Link Posted: 11/26/2022 12:25:13 PM EDT
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Schuyler arms has Aero Breach CHs for $45…I decided to FO at that price.
Link Posted: 11/26/2022 1:09:21 PM EDT
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This was interesting:

https://cdn.athlonoutdoors.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/13/2017/11/ballf15-ch-beatenzone.jpg

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What in the actual fuck? Someone WAY overthought that thing
Link Posted: 11/26/2022 2:11:50 PM EDT
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Well, it still didn't have a battery driven solenoid to move it, so I'm sure someone could make it even more complicated.
Link Posted: 11/27/2022 8:55:09 PM EDT
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My favorite
Link Posted: 11/28/2022 4:56:15 PM EDT
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Radian Raptor - SL for the win......

RAPTOR-SL AMBIDEXTROUS CHARGING HANDLE
Link Posted: 12/2/2022 1:45:57 AM EDT
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OP I have used them all and to be honest USGI spec charging handles work, work well, and will serve any mission or task.  Having said that some may offer a few slight advantages over one another but it's not worth the price you pay in the cost IMHO.
Link Posted: 12/2/2022 9:32:48 AM EDT
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Radian.
https://i.ibb.co/fkqHHyX/5912-A1-E2-EAE1-4806-8119-21395-A469-B90.webp

Strike Industries.
https://i.ibb.co/S3q944W/A695-AA0-A-F025-4-A73-AD50-FFA5-B85-A31-CA.jpg

I think pretty much all of the current big names have had failures posted over the years. Geissele, Radian, POF, new BCM. I've still never heard of the Vltor breaking, but not to say they haven't either.
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Had a stuck casing and tried to mortar the thing but this happened instead. Tried to contact Vltor but radio silence.......

Link Posted: 12/2/2022 10:16:09 PM EDT
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I've sold off all of my other handles and swapped all of my AR's over to PRI handles
Link Posted: 12/3/2022 1:50:20 PM EDT
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I had a BCM Mod 4 once. I went back to MilSpec.
Link Posted: 12/3/2022 2:48:35 PM EDT
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Anyone using a Smith Tactics charge handle?

Smith Tactics charge handle

Link Posted: 12/5/2022 7:37:38 AM EDT
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Had a stuck casing and tried to mortar the thing but this happened instead. Tried to contact Vltor but radio silence.......

https://i.imgur.com/18qH5Ds.jpg
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Damn!
Link Posted: 12/5/2022 9:48:53 PM EDT
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I’ve seen two bent Geisseles and used to see PRI gas busters break the roll pin back when they were about the only ones.

I never had an upgraded charging handle until I got a prototype Vltor/BCM in ‘08 and I’ve been using those ever since.
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If concerned with strength, there is always the Power Custom steel charge handle.

=Power Custom steel charge handle


I'd like to see pictures of high end, broken CH's


I’ve seen two bent Geisseles and used to see PRI gas busters break the roll pin back when they were about the only ones.

I never had an upgraded charging handle until I got a prototype Vltor/BCM in ‘08 and I’ve been using those ever since.


I just found a Prototype/VLTOR marked BCM Gunfighter Mod4 in my parts and was trying to remember when I got it.
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