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Originally Posted By Atropian_Defector: Oh yeah, it may become an instragram paperweight for sure, lol. yeah I'm fairly certain he posted that as a joke That's not even just a crappy chinese optic, it's a crappy chinese airsoft optic. Doubt it could hold up to 5.56 recoil. For when that breaks; at least get a Primary Arms prism. |
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Originally Posted By SturmgeschutzIII: yeah I'm fairly certain he posted that as a joke That's not even just a crappy chinese optic, it's a crappy chinese airsoft optic. Doubt it could hold up to 5.56 recoil. For when that breaks; at least get a Primary Arms prism.  Torture Testing the $200 Elcan Clone | Will It Hold Up? @SturmgeschutzIII
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: I’ve got some airsoft m60 bipods I plan on using. That’s how I found the fake Elcan. Everything doesn’t have to be serious have some fun with your guns. For sure. I've just seen airsoft optics tested before and fail under far less recoil than 308. And I've used them before for airsoft and they're just bad. lol Originally Posted By Atropian_Defector:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWpyZ-sed3Q actually it's been tested on a SCAR 16 at least @SturmgeschutzIIINice! Maybe they're getting better in quality these days. I wish you good fortune. 
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I was thinking of you when he started talking about 20" barrels.
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He makes valid points but forgets one huge point. Some people just want to shoot and have fun, who GAF about barrel length, weight, Suppressed, gas block type etc.. if all one is going to do is leaveing it ground mounted on the firing line and do mag/belt dumps a few times a year. Everything doesn't have to be super serious. What happened to just having fun? lol |
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Originally Posted By ELittlefield: I was thinking of you when he started talking about 20" barrels. Originally Posted By ELittlefield: I was thinking of you when he started talking about 20" barrels.  Mines 16"
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: He makes valid points but forgets one huge point. Some people just want to shoot and have fun, who GAF about barrel length, weight, Suppressed, gas block type etc.. if all one is going to do is leaveing it ground mounted on the firing line and do mag/belt dumps a few times a year. Everything doesn't have to be super serious. What happened to just having fun? lol Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: He makes valid points but forgets one huge point. Some people just want to shoot and have fun, who GAF about barrel length, weight, Suppressed, gas block type etc.. if all one is going to do is leaveing it ground mounted on the firing line and do mag/belt dumps a few times a year. Everything doesn't have to be super serious. What happened to just having fun? lol Thats not the target of his video |
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Originally Posted By Atropian_Defector: https://media0.giphy.com/media/1BCIlYHwJ3hu0/200.webp?cid=8dc8958c8sjc7okamw1rmoamqvxan5j3y77ixymj5xliqn0i&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200.webp&ct=g Video brought to you by RRH Klein 20" master race
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He does not really address the reasoning behind the heavier barrels, aka to extend heat buildup time. The only reason to have a shorter barrel is maneuvering in CQB but the squad's support weapon is not what is suppose to be used for that role. Of course he talks about the short barrel in the Mk46 and Stoner 63 in beltfed mode but both of those are for specific special forces rolls that utilize small squads where the SAW gunner has to cover more rolls that fire support. The special forces role does not usually even utilize a bipod. I guess he is implying that use by civilians would be closer to a special forces roll so his barrel insights do apply. |
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Originally Posted By sgthatred: He does not really address the reasoning behind the heavier barrels, aka to extend heat buildup time. The only reason to have a shorter barrel is maneuvering in CQB but the squad's support weapon is not what is suppose to be used for that role. Of course he talks about the short barrel in the Mk46 and Stoner 63 in beltfed mode but both of those are for specific special forces rolls that utilize small squads where the SAW gunner has to cover more rolls that fire support. The special forces role does not usually even utilize a bipod. I guess he is implying that use by civilians would be closer to a special forces roll so his barrel insights do apply. I always kinda scratch my head when all the YT talking heads refer to team or group movements in SHTF. That is the best case scenario, have more guys but I think in all reality its going to be more like 1-3 guy ambush hit and run tactics if something ever kicks off on American soil. I think we have been studying the wrong side of the past few conflicts that America has been involved in. This is all in reference to Minecraft and creeper hit tactics of course. |
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: I always kinda scratch my head when all the YT talking heads refer to team or group movements in SHTF. That is the best case scenario, have more guys but I think in all reality its going to be more like 1-3 guy ambush hit and run tactics if something ever kicks off on American soil. I think we have been studying the wrong side of the past few conflicts that America has been involved in. This is all in reference to Minecraft and creeper hit tactics of course. Yeah. Clearing buildings all day won't happen and you won't need to carry thousands of rounds like a mil op. But there's kind of two ways to build this concept anyway. The more handy IAR and the heavier RPK style. I went with the latter. That guy seems kind of reluctant to make that video and doesn't believe in any of it, even saying something like "i'm not the one to talk you into getting one of these" and "go watch this other channel if you want to know about how to use this" |
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Originally Posted By SturmgeschutzIII: Yeah. Clearing buildings all day won't happen and you won't need to carry thousands of rounds like a mil op. But there's kind of two ways to build this concept anyway. The more handy IAR and the heavier RPK style. I went with the latter. That guy seems kind of reluctant to make that video and doesn't believe in any of it, even saying something like "i'm not the one to talk you into getting one of these" and "go watch this other channel if you want to know about how to use this" Originally Posted By SturmgeschutzIII: Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: I always kinda scratch my head when all the YT talking heads refer to team or group movements in SHTF. That is the best case scenario, have more guys but I think in all reality its going to be more like 1-3 guy ambush hit and run tactics if something ever kicks off on American soil. I think we have been studying the wrong side of the past few conflicts that America has been involved in. This is all in reference to Minecraft and creeper hit tactics of course. Yeah. Clearing buildings all day won't happen and you won't need to carry thousands of rounds like a mil op. But there's kind of two ways to build this concept anyway. The more handy IAR and the heavier RPK style. I went with the latter. That guy seems kind of reluctant to make that video and doesn't believe in any of it, even saying something like "i'm not the one to talk you into getting one of these" and "go watch this other channel if you want to know about how to use this" He's lucky since he's both younger and has a group of like minded individuals who train together, apparently with some regularity/frequency. I took his comments about asking someone else as his admission that he's not former military or specifically trained on utilizing that sort of platform, he's a guntuber, so look for info on that aspect from people who were (he always adds a disclaimer about not being law enforcement or mil and just being someone who likes guns). I saw this video as a this is the basic idea and here is what I did type of thing. He acknowledged the logistical problems with feeding it as civilians when incorporated in the IAR role so that's realistic. Watching some of his other videos, he's obviously got a lot of guns but like most of us, most of them seem to be more, "because I can" or "I wanted to try something myself" or "because it's fun" guns but in the videos of him, Brass Facts and the other guys in the desert and mountains he's usually got what looks to be one or two default rifles. Never met the guy and don't watch all of his videos so maybe I'm off here. 
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic: He's lucky since he's both younger and has a group of like minded individuals who train together, apparently with some regularity/frequency. I took his comments about asking someone else as his admission that he's not former military or specifically trained on utilizing that sort of platform, he's a guntuber, so look for info on that aspect from people who were (he always adds a disclaimer about not being law enforcement or mil and just being someone who likes guns). I saw this video as a this is the basic idea and here is what I did type of thing. He acknowledged the logistical problems with feeding it as civilians when incorporated in the IAR role so that's realistic. Watching some of his other videos, he's obviously got a lot of guns but like most of us, most of them seem to be more, "because I can" or "I wanted to try something myself" or "because it's fun" guns but in the videos of him, Brass Facts and the other guys in the desert and mountains he's usually got what looks to be one or two default rifles. Never met the guy and don't watch all of his videos so maybe I'm off here. Yeah I gotcha. I had never seen this guy before. But tactics can't just be brushed off. Without using it correctly, this concept is just a shitty uncontrollable, long, and heavy AR. I just find most guntubers annoying now that they're all selling something. I used to go to YT for real reviews, as all gun magazines were bought and paid for long ago. Now youtubers are as well. Here and reddit are the only places left for real critical opinions on products. |
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic: He's lucky since he's both younger and has a group of like minded individuals who train together, apparently with some regularity/frequency. I took his comments about asking someone else as his admission that he's not former military or specifically trained on utilizing that sort of platform, he's a guntuber, so look for info on that aspect from people who were (he always adds a disclaimer about not being law enforcement or mil and just being someone who likes guns). I saw this video as a this is the basic idea and here is what I did type of thing. He acknowledged the logistical problems with feeding it as civilians when incorporated in the IAR role so that's realistic. Watching some of his other videos, he's obviously got a lot of guns but like most of us, most of them seem to be more, "because I can" or "I wanted to try something myself" or "because it's fun" guns but in the videos of him, Brass Facts and the other guys in the desert and mountains he's usually got what looks to be one or two default rifles. Never met the guy and don't watch all of his videos so maybe I'm off here. Originally Posted By sandboxmedic: Originally Posted By SturmgeschutzIII: Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: I always kinda scratch my head when all the YT talking heads refer to team or group movements in SHTF. That is the best case scenario, have more guys but I think in all reality its going to be more like 1-3 guy ambush hit and run tactics if something ever kicks off on American soil. I think we have been studying the wrong side of the past few conflicts that America has been involved in. This is all in reference to Minecraft and creeper hit tactics of course. Yeah. Clearing buildings all day won't happen and you won't need to carry thousands of rounds like a mil op. But there's kind of two ways to build this concept anyway. The more handy IAR and the heavier RPK style. I went with the latter. That guy seems kind of reluctant to make that video and doesn't believe in any of it, even saying something like "i'm not the one to talk you into getting one of these" and "go watch this other channel if you want to know about how to use this" He's lucky since he's both younger and has a group of like minded individuals who train together, apparently with some regularity/frequency. I took his comments about asking someone else as his admission that he's not former military or specifically trained on utilizing that sort of platform, he's a guntuber, so look for info on that aspect from people who were (he always adds a disclaimer about not being law enforcement or mil and just being someone who likes guns). I saw this video as a this is the basic idea and here is what I did type of thing. He acknowledged the logistical problems with feeding it as civilians when incorporated in the IAR role so that's realistic. Watching some of his other videos, he's obviously got a lot of guns but like most of us, most of them seem to be more, "because I can" or "I wanted to try something myself" or "because it's fun" guns but in the videos of him, Brass Facts and the other guys in the desert and mountains he's usually got what looks to be one or two default rifles. Never met the guy and don't watch all of his videos so maybe I'm off here. A couple of guys in his circle are ex-military. Not sure what their experience is, but they're the ones helping their group out with tactics. |
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I like the look of that bipod. Quickly cants to the side for reloads. |
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Originally Posted By SturmgeschutzIII: I like that belt kit. I do not like his drill  Crossfire DZ Rig. Essentially an Americanized PLCE. Designed by our very own @Diz. Big thread in the Tactical Gear forum where he talks about developing it for CF over many pages (though I don’t remember which page he starts mentioning it). I have one in woodland and it is TITS. I think it’s the perfect “Prepared Citizen” set up. |
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Originally Posted By ELittlefield: I like the look of that bipod. Quickly cants to the side for reloads. Originally Posted By ELittlefield: I like the look of that bipod. Quickly cants to the side for reloads. Pretty sure it a GG&G. If it is, it’s what I have on mine and it’s probably the best bipod for this application for the reason you mentioned, making reloads from prone much easier. |
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Originally Posted By Paulie771: Pretty sure it a GG&G. If it is, it’s what I have on mine and it’s probably the best bipod for this application for the reason you mentioned, making reloads from prone much easier. Originally Posted By Paulie771: Originally Posted By ELittlefield: I like the look of that bipod. Quickly cants to the side for reloads. Pretty sure it a GG&G. If it is, it’s what I have on mine and it’s probably the best bipod for this application for the reason you mentioned, making reloads from prone much easier. I'm gonna go ahead and buy one, I think. |
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/424008/IMG_7599_jpeg-3718464.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/424008/IMG_7605_jpeg-3718466.JPG Tiger the cat approves this build. Very nice! Looks like what I have in mind although I picked up a Magpul MOE Fixed stock to try. I've got an extra A2 I figured I'll put on it if I don't like the Magpul. |
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: Does some make a heat/fire proof canvas wrap with a hole in it for a vertical grip? I'm not aware of one, but if you had to would one of the home-brew silencer wraps work if there wasn't a commercial offering? |
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Originally Posted By Paulie771: Ok, help me decide: 3x PA prism or 5x and why? I’m back and forth on either. Whichever I go with will get a top mounted dot. I haven't put mine together so keep that in mind but I have a PA 3X on another rifle and I've shot a friend's rifle with a PA 5X. I haven't shot a gun with a FRT yet but I have shot multiple machine guns. Just extrapolating based on those experiences, I think it's going to be harder to use the PA 5X just because of the tighter eye relief and the gun moving while shooting. If I ever get around to putting mine together I plan to try out both PA prisms, as well as a flip to side magnifier (I've got a 3x and 5x to try). Brass Facts has a good video that pretty much matches what I thought about the 5X but he obviously has a lot more time on it. Put the video in a spoiler so it doesn't take up a lot of space. Click To View Spoiler If I were to go with the 5X I'd probably add the Heromod mount (https://heromod.com)mount and put a red dot on it. It's made by the guy from the Deltathirtyfour channel but watching/reading some other reviews it does get good reviews for a piggyback mount since PA's version bends. He's got a bit more details in his longer review of the 5X including cutting it in half. Click To View Spoiler |
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: Does some make a heat/fire proof canvas wrap with a hole in it for a vertical grip? I haven't used this, but it appears like it might work for you.  
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Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: I haven't used this, but it appears like it might work for you. www.amazon.com/dp/B0F93X47XW heck yeah. Looks like the user pulls the sections off that fits their VFG. |
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Originally Posted By Paulie771: Ok, help me decide: 3x PA prism or 5x and why? I’m back and forth on either. Whichever I go with will get a top mounted dot. Regardless of what you go with.... https://www.fotonika.online/primary-arms-slx-mounts |
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Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: I haven't used this, but it appears like it might work for you. www.amazon.com/dp/B0F93X47XW Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: Does some make a heat/fire proof canvas wrap with a hole in it for a vertical grip? I haven't used this, but it appears like it might work for you. www.amazon.com/dp/B0F93X47XW Looks like a lower cost HotPocket https://wisemencompany.com/firearm-accessories/wraps-and-coatings/ |
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Originally Posted By JTX23: What did you end up getting? @ELittlefield Originally Posted By JTX23: Originally Posted By ELittlefield: My bipod arrived. I think I could beat a polar bear to death with it. This thing is HEAVY. I'll get it installed and hopefully blast a few mags tomorrow. What did you end up getting? @ELittlefield GG&G.  " />
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Took mine out yesterday for it's first super safe run. It did great. The 60 rnd Schmeisser mags were all brand new and the springs very stiff. Super safe was only working after about 5 rounds were shot in each mag. I'm sure this will improve once the mags are better worn in. It was a lot of fun and very controllable. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By 545Fan: Took mine out yesterday for it's first super safe run. It did great. The 60 rnd Schmeisser mags were all brand new and the springs very stiff. Super safe was only working after about 5 rounds were shot in each mag. I'm sure this will improve once the mags are better worn in. It was a lot of fun and very controllable. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/24542/ARPK_jpg-3722216.JPG |
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@Freefallret Klein upper from Small Team supply same as mine, just different bipod Also, TAPS holds the 53rd quad stack mags  Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Atropian_Defector: @Freefallret Klein upper from Small Team supply same as mine, just different bipod Also, TAPS holds the 53rd quad stack mags https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/523616/IMG_2215_jpeg-3722622.JPG I need to build a proper FRT upper to go with my D60 drums. |
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