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Posted: 11/30/2023 1:48:53 PM EDT
It seems that suddenly most quality aluminum 30 round mags are sold out. Colt/Ok included. Any reason why?
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 2:02:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/30/2023 3:03:40 PM EDT
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This thread covers okay closing doors.  Okay mags were oem mags for multiple manufacturers and brands.


https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Okay-Industries-Surefeed-closing-Magazine-production-by-the-end-of-the-Year-/17-770819/

Not only did okay go away, but Brownells has stopped making 20 rd aluminum mags as well.
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 3:22:26 PM EDT
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Does anyone know of a site still selling OK 30 round mags?
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 3:30:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FALARAK] [#4]
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 3:33:11 PM EDT
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All the major distributors I used to check seem to be sold out.

I grabbed a few hundred a couple years ago.
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 4:32:01 PM EDT
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I've got totes full of PMAGs but I would have loved to grab more Okay 20rd straight mags before they stopped
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 4:35:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RABIDFOX50] [#7]
I have hundreds of OKay, Colt, FN, Center Ind., D&H and CProducts 30s. PMags as well. I stepped up my purchases of Pamags and drums as of late. Those P60s for AR type and P50s for AR10 types are pretty freaking sweet.

I have a small amount of straight 20s from various makers but not as many as I would have liked to have.
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 4:40:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tgmr05:
This thread covers okay closing doors.  Okay mags were oem mags for multiple manufacturers and brands.


https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Okay-Industries-Surefeed-closing-Magazine-production-by-the-end-of-the-Year-/17-770819/

Not only did okay go away, but Brownells has stopped making 20 rd aluminum mags as well.
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The shortage of 20 round aluminum mags is a real bummer.

My favorites on SBRs and for shooting prone!

Bigger_Hammer
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 4:42:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer:


The shortage of 20 round aluminum mags is a real bummer.

My favorites on SBRs and for shooting prone!

Bigger_Hammer
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I grabbed ten of the tan Surefeed 20's last year when I realized it was my last chance to get them without hunting. They're great for shooting off of benches and/or prone.
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 5:15:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WSAR15] [#10]
Brownells has stopped their 20s? and 30s?
I prefer 20rd mags!
Time to buy old Colts and refurbish....
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 5:33:30 PM EDT
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Anyone know if Palmetto's branded 30 round mags are GTG? Reviews on the PSA site look positive and $9.99!
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 5:44:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rubles:
Anyone know if Palmetto's branded 30 round mags are GTG? Reviews on the PSA site look positive and $9.99!
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They're teflon coated D&H made mags, very good to go.
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 5:55:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By D_Man:
They're teflon coated D&H made mags, very good to go.
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Ah, good to know! thanks!
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 6:02:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rubles:
Anyone know if Palmetto's branded 30 round mags are GTG? Reviews on the PSA site look positive and $9.99!
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They're D&H mags and work great. I have a few hundred D&H mags stockpiled.
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 6:06:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
They're D&H mags and work great. I have a few hundred D&H mags stockpiled.
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I scrolled through the thread too fast the first time and missed your link right to the PSA's. Thanks for posting that and the vote of confidence in them. Going to pick some up.
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 6:42:07 PM EDT
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Has Duramag been out long enough to have a good/bad track record?
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 6:45:06 PM EDT
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JUST PUT IN MY ORDER, THANKS FOR THE LINK.
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 6:51:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fiyero:
Has Duramag been out long enough to have a good/bad track record?
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I don't trust them. I would go with D&H.
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 8:24:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fiyero:
Has Duramag been out long enough to have a good/bad track record?
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FWIW, I have 7.62x39 Duramags that have been reliable and seem well built, but my 7.62 AR is just a range gun and by no means a go-to.
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 8:37:35 PM EDT
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*****  https://www.readyfirearmsllc.com/the-ready-store/okay-surefeed-magazine ******

THAT IS A SCAM WEBSITE
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 9:13:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rubles:


I scrolled through the thread too fast the first time and missed your link right to the PSA's. Thanks for posting that and the vote of confidence in them. Going to pick some up.
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Originally Posted By Rubles:
Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
They're D&H mags and work great. I have a few hundred D&H mags stockpiled.


I scrolled through the thread too fast the first time and missed your link right to the PSA's. Thanks for posting that and the vote of confidence in them. Going to pick some up.


Are the rounded D&H Aluminum 20rd mages better than straight 20rd mags?

D&H better than DuraMag?
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 9:49:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WSAR15:


Are the rounded D&H Aluminum 20rd mages better than straight 20rd mags?

D&H better than DuraMag?
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Originally Posted By WSAR15:
Originally Posted By Rubles:
Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
They're D&H mags and work great. I have a few hundred D&H mags stockpiled.


I scrolled through the thread too fast the first time and missed your link right to the PSA's. Thanks for posting that and the vote of confidence in them. Going to pick some up.


Are the rounded D&H Aluminum 20rd mages better than straight 20rd mags?

D&H better than DuraMag?


Curved mags can be expected to feed better than straight 20s in adverse conditions.  Source - severely undergassed 27" pencil w/ rifle +3" gas.
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 10:05:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WSAR15:


Are the rounded D&H Aluminum 20rd mages better than straight 20rd mags?

D&H better than DuraMag?
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I can't accept wierd looking curved 20's

IMO D&H are better than DuraMag.
Link Posted: 12/1/2023 12:07:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
I can't accept wierd looking curved 20's

IMO D&H are better than DuraMag.
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My favorite are straight as well and old 20rd Colts with metal followers.
Link Posted: 12/1/2023 10:46:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer:


The shortage of 20 round aluminum mags is a real bummer.

My favorites on SBRs and for shooting prone!

Bigger_Hammer
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Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer:
Originally Posted By tgmr05:
This thread covers okay closing doors.  Okay mags were oem mags for multiple manufacturers and brands.


https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Okay-Industries-Surefeed-closing-Magazine-production-by-the-end-of-the-Year-/17-770819/

Not only did okay go away, but Brownells has stopped making 20 rd aluminum mags as well.


The shortage of 20 round aluminum mags is a real bummer.

My favorites on SBRs and for shooting prone!

Bigger_Hammer


Indeed.  I got lots of 20rd mags but still wish I had more
Link Posted: 12/1/2023 12:18:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/1/2023 2:29:57 PM EDT
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My man. Just ordered 10.
Link Posted: 12/2/2023 2:57:09 AM EDT
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I orderd all the Okay enhanced surefeeds I could when I heard they were closing down.

I've got magazines and boxes of magazines sticking out of every empty space in the house now, its kind of bad. I need to get some totes or a chest to put them into.
Link Posted: 12/2/2023 7:26:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
All the major distributors I used to check seem to be sold out.

I grabbed a few hundred a couple years ago.
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Really that many?
Link Posted: 12/2/2023 8:33:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WSAR15] [#30]
I ordered some from Rock River - lower price but not likely Colt/Surefeed.
Do they have Stainless Steel Springs?

2023-12-04 RR 20rd mag has Stainless Steel Springs.

2023-12-09 RR Mag order arrived and they are OKAY SUREFEED 20rd matte gray with black followers in OKAY Package ($14.00 ea) - Happy Day!
Link Posted: 12/2/2023 8:49:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By peacematu:


Really that many?
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A quick perusal of my email indicates 272 purchased since late 2020. Two orders of 100, one order of 60, an order of ten 20rd mags and two tagged into an order of some other mags.
Link Posted: 12/2/2023 10:26:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WSAR15:
I ordered some from Rock River - lower price but not likely Colt/Surefeed.
Do they hvae Stainless Steel Springs?
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My recent order of 20s from RRA was all Okay Surefeed. 10s were D&H. Didn't order any 30s.

Speaking of springs, anyone have a source for quality 20 round mag springs? I don't think I need extra power ones and that's all I see.
Link Posted: 12/2/2023 11:30:33 AM EDT
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https://www.gunsprings.com/

Wolff has great 20rds AR15 Clip Springs. I use them to rebuild old Colt 20rd mags.
Link Posted: 12/3/2023 4:49:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WSAR15:
https://www.gunsprings.com/

Wolff has great 20rds AR15 Clip Springs. I use them to rebuild old Colt 20rd mags.
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Is longevity good? I ask because the keep the composition of their springs proprietary info.
Link Posted: 12/3/2023 6:11:34 AM EDT
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Wolff springs are extra power. I was thinking that would cause excessive wear and isn't necessary. Maybe I'll pick up some.
Link Posted: 12/3/2023 8:31:32 AM EDT
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Sorry, I cannot comment on longevity as I do not use them enough.
John Mansen has 20rd rebuild kits at $6.95 but I cannot comment on the quality of the parts: https://www.johnmasen.com/AR15-20-Round-Spring-Aluminum-Magazine-Follower-p/1510-a.htm
Magblock has some 20rd springs as well but for they mags:
https://www.magazineblocks.com/magento/products/magazine-accessories/20-round-replacement-spring.html
ASC rebuild kits:
https://www.ammosc.com/ar-15-223-556-aluminum-magazine-spring-kit
Bushmaster Rebuild kit:
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/F1003116
Link Posted: 12/3/2023 9:44:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WSAR15:
Sorry, I cannot comment on longevity as I do not use them enough.
John Mansen has 20rd rebuild kits at $6.95 but I cannot comment on the quality of the parts: https://www.johnmasen.com/AR15-20-Round-Spring-Aluminum-Magazine-Follower-p/1510-a.htm
Magblock has some 20rd springs as well but for they mags:
https://www.magazineblocks.com/magento/products/magazine-accessories/20-round-replacement-spring.html
ASC rebuild kits:
https://www.ammosc.com/ar-15-223-556-aluminum-magazine-spring-kit
Bushmaster Rebuild kit:
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/F1003116
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Thanks. Those are the links I found as well. Was thinking arfcom might know of another source. I'll probably just buy some Wolff and call it good. Only spare parts in of a future ban anyways.
Link Posted: 12/3/2023 9:51:27 AM EDT
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Yes Eric496, I hope as well to find a source of good 20rd springs to rebuild some older Colt 20rd Mags.
I like the older mags with the metal follower.
Link Posted: 12/3/2023 4:09:20 PM EDT
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I like the 20 round okay ones too picked up 5 of them last minute  have a few 30s as well.

I have a lancer 20 that also works pretty good zero issues with it.
Link Posted: 12/3/2023 9:04:30 PM EDT
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Forgive the ignorant n00b question, but what's really the big differences between the metal vs poly mags? I have no experience with any of the metal mags, only poly, but so far my experience has been positive. Is it just down to preference or is there some mechanical difference that the metal performs better?

Please be gentle, I'm new to the AR platform having just bought my first one six months ago and have only been able to have it out three times.

Regards,

AB
Link Posted: 12/3/2023 9:29:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By agentblack:
Forgive the ignorant n00b question, but what's really the big differences between the metal vs poly mags? I have no experience with any of the metal mags, only poly, but so far my experience has been positive. Is it just down to preference or is there some mechanical difference that the metal performs better?

Please be gentle, I'm new to the AR platform having just bought my first one six months ago and have only been able to have it out three times.

Regards,

AB
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Weve all here asked the NOOB questions.   Personally I've seen the GI metal mags take a ton of abuse and still work.  Poly not so much
Link Posted: 12/3/2023 9:38:58 PM EDT
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@brownells @brownells_ar15 do y'all still have the ability to produce your straight 20rd USGI mags?
Link Posted: 12/3/2023 9:43:40 PM EDT
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I went a bit overboard after the federal AWB expired and have 300 sitting in unopened boxes. I couldn’t possibly want any more.
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Weve all here asked the NOOB questions.   Personally I've seen the GI metal mags take a ton of abuse and still work.  Poly not so much
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Originally Posted By ban-hater:
Originally Posted By agentblack:
Forgive the ignorant n00b question, but what's really the big differences between the metal vs poly mags? I have no experience with any of the metal mags, only poly, but so far my experience has been positive. Is it just down to preference or is there some mechanical difference that the metal performs better?

Please be gentle, I'm new to the AR platform having just bought my first one six months ago and have only been able to have it out three times.

Regards,

AB




Weve all here asked the NOOB questions.   Personally I've seen the GI metal mags take a ton of abuse and still work.  Poly not so much


That's what has been shown at that huge gun rental range in or near Vegas. Now that I think of it, it was shown the metal ones can fire more rounds than the polymer ones before it is done for. I don't recall if anything was said about abuse or them.
Link Posted: 12/3/2023 10:24:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FrankDrebin:
I went a bit overboard after the federal AWB expired and have 300 sitting in unopened boxes. I couldn’t possibly want any more.
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I wonder how much they would have been worth around the year 2000 (about midpoint of the AWB).
Link Posted: 12/3/2023 10:45:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By agentblack:
Forgive the ignorant n00b question, but what's really the big differences between the metal vs poly mags? I have no experience with any of the metal mags, only poly, but so far my experience has been positive. Is it just down to preference or is there some mechanical difference that the metal performs better?

Please be gentle, I'm new to the AR platform having just bought my first one six months ago and have only been able to have it out three times.

Regards,

AB
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Honestly, personal preference plays a major role.

Hard to go wrong with either from a quality mfgr.
Link Posted: 12/4/2023 12:17:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By peacematu:


Really that many?
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Originally Posted By peacematu:
Originally Posted By jaqufrost:  All the major distributors I used to check seem to be sold out.

I grabbed a few hundred a couple years ago.


Really that many?


He only has one per rifle.  
Link Posted: 12/4/2023 11:10:22 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/4/2023 11:16:37 AM EDT
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Great news to know Brownells 20rd will be available again!
Who is the new supplier?
Was OKAY the old supplier?
Link Posted: 12/4/2023 12:29:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Brownells_ar15:


@mitsuman47 yes and the project is nearing the finish line with our new supplier.
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Originally Posted By Brownells_ar15:
Originally Posted By mitsuman47:
@brownells @brownells_ar15 do y'all still have the ability to produce your straight 20rd USGI mags?


@mitsuman47 yes and the project is nearing the finish line with our new supplier.

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