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Posted: 2/26/2005 4:13:01 PM EDT
okay i've been thinking about getting either an M4gery kit or an AK74 kit...the AK would be done a lot faster than the M4 and would be cheaper...if i were to get the AK, it'd delay my AR and make my Mega lower sit on my dresser for a while but i'd have a fully built AK74...i'll post links to exactly what im deciding between and start a poll...thanks for your input!
 also im thinking about an M1 Garand now...link belowAK74 linkie - AK74 M4 link - AR15 Garand link - Garand AK47 link - AK47 |
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Posted: 2/26/2005 4:23:29 PM EDT
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GET BOTH, NOW!!
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Posted: 2/26/2005 4:48:53 PM EDT
[#2]
HA! i wish it were that simple...dont have the money for even 1 yet...
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Posted: 2/26/2005 4:51:58 PM EDT
[#3]
Get the AR now.
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Posted: 2/26/2005 5:13:06 PM EDT
[#4]
Seriously though, you will end up with both eventually, so get which ever one is more likely to be scarce later on down the road.
Prolly, either way you'll be happy. |
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Posted: 2/26/2005 5:23:24 PM EDT
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Get the one with the chrome-lined barrel.
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Posted: 2/26/2005 6:50:42 PM EDT
[#6]
AR
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Posted: 2/27/2005 11:00:25 AM EDT
[#7]
alright you've convinced me...im gonna do the AR first...14.5" + 2" Phantom FH M4 from Model 1 Sales. only $485 away!
 ETA: my next AR will definatly be 20"...most likely an SP1... |
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Posted: 2/27/2005 3:40:24 PM EDT
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I built an M1S CAR on a Stag lower a couple of weeks ago. It went great. Good luck and IMHO a good choice.
Jim |
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Posted: 2/27/2005 3:48:57 PM EDT
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NO! At least buy the AK kit now, you see these are imported and the suply is allready running out on most AK kits, so if you don't buy the kit now you may not be able to. Those AK kits are going UP in value, so worst case senario, you don't build it, you can sell your kit for who know how much more than you payed for it. The AK kit is an investment.
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Posted: 2/27/2005 5:23:57 PM EDT
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hmm...good point...i dont know though...i'll decide when the time comes...im still leaning towards the M4...and also, if another *whipsers* AW ban comes around, AR kits might become harder and harder to find...of course the same goes for AK kits but still...
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Posted: 2/27/2005 5:30:46 PM EDT
[#11]
OH god...model 1 sales.......the horror...go with the AK74 first and for the love of all that is decent pass on Model 1 and M&A and go with del-ton
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Posted: 2/27/2005 5:36:00 PM EDT
[#12]
Very sound advice. |
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Posted: 2/27/2005 6:21:59 PM EDT
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del-ton doesnt have the 14.5" + Phantom FH...unless by adding the Phantom makes it 14.5" + the 2 inch FH... |
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Posted: 2/27/2005 6:46:54 PM EDT
[#14]
OH god...the horror..go with JT Distributing or Bushmaster |
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Posted: 2/27/2005 7:07:27 PM EDT
[#15]
The AR is the better weapon and you will like it more.
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Posted: 2/27/2005 8:29:41 PM EDT
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AK kits are far more likely to get baned from import! Even for the last ten years of commy rule, we could always buy AR "pre-ban" kits. So my recomendation is stock up on receivers NOW, and that's an order recruit!  Personally, I am stockpileing 80% receivers and building as fast as I can. |
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Posted: 2/28/2005 2:41:43 AM EDT
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JT doesnt have the 14.5" + Phantom either and Bushmaster is WAAAAY too expensive...it's either M1S or Del-Ton...and im leaning towards M1S...what's so wrong with them anyway? |
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Posted: 2/28/2005 3:23:17 AM EDT
[#18]
M4
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Posted: 2/28/2005 6:19:57 AM EDT
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Let me assure you that JTD does have what you are looking for. Get a catalog from them it has four times more stuff than their website, anything you can dream up they can do. I would give them a call and get a quote. But you can go with Model 1, it's not my money being flushed down the toilet. |
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Posted: 2/28/2005 10:46:43 AM EDT
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ok then can you please explain to me exactly what it's called...? cause i dont see it...closest thing i see in the catalog (the PDF one on the site) is the 14.5" one but that's a SBR and i dont want to do that...i know i could get that and weld a Phantom FH on the sucker but the kit alone is $499 and the FH would be another $20-35 plus the welding... |
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Posted: 2/28/2005 11:00:34 AM EDT
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Ok ok, if you are going cheap and don't want to invest time and energy into research then by all means go with Model 1 or M&A
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Posted: 2/28/2005 11:47:20 AM EDT
[#22]
well does JT have the 14.5" + welded 2" FH for AT MOST $495?
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Posted: 2/28/2005 2:53:14 PM EDT
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M1's M4 kit as posted looks very nice for the price......
May i ask what's wrong with M1S or their products? |
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Posted: 2/28/2005 3:26:52 PM EDT
[#24]
no clue...some person said the bolts are bad...im still thinking about buying one from there though...
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Posted: 2/28/2005 3:37:48 PM EDT
[#25]
bolts? who cares, its just a bolt..... if thats the problem, then we can always find new bolts..... wish i had a person who actually knows exactly why they are 'bad'
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Posted: 2/28/2005 4:37:19 PM EDT
[#26]
- quote from ar101 im STILL thinking about getting an M1S kit though... |
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Posted: 2/28/2005 4:56:58 PM EDT
[#27]
Hm, if i get a M1S kit, be sure to get a RR bolt from the local RR dealer.... CHECK.
thanks for the heads up, i can sell an intact bolt. (won't sell it on here or EE, don't worry about it, i'll likely end up selling it to a local FFL) |
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Posted: 2/28/2005 8:38:32 PM EDT
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M1S=
bolts brake at about 1000-1500 rnds. charging handle to short, breaks from carier key hitting it when it goes into battery. chambers to tight (noone knows why), causes extraction broblems & stuck cases. lower parts kit sucks, some detents don't even fit in mil-spec holes, plus they normaly forget something (they forgot my disconecter on my very first build, I didn't know better and tried to shoot it, it would fire full-auto for 2 or 3 shots then jam) the carrier key is normaly loose (mine was on my first build) and lets not forget thier trade mark, signature, canted front sight base. I've bought four barrels from them and two of them had HORRIBLY canted front sight bases. I have a CAR & 20"A2, when they were "post-ban" the 20"s sight was crooked, to the point where I couldn't use my "see-thru" scope mount B/C the rear sight was up against the side of the carry handle. After I made them into "no-bans" with model "1" barrels, my CAR is so crooked that the rear sight is knob is turned TIGHT, with the sight tight up against the right side of carry handle  . It zeros, so I decided to keep it instead of fidle-fucking around with M1S. Someday when I have time I will fix it myself.Right now I am building a couple ARs, I am going to pay a little extra and get the LPK and B/BC/CH from Bushmaster. It's only like $30 more. |
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Posted: 2/28/2005 8:40:35 PM EDT
[#29]
Build the AR in 7.62. Then you won't want and AK.
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Posted: 3/1/2005 2:39:17 AM EDT
[#30]
did this just happen on yours or has there been a lot of kits like this? if you could tell me where to get a 14.5" M4 with a welded 2" Phantom flashider for around the same price as M1S but better quality, i'll get that instead.... ETA: would getting an M1S kit with a chrome bolt carrier make it any better...? |
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Posted: 3/2/2005 5:25:08 PM EDT
[#31]
which one is better...J&T or Del-Ton? quality-wise...
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Posted: 3/2/2005 5:28:03 PM EDT
[#32]
LMT has 14.5" and 16" uppers for $485... wonder what THOSE are like?
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Posted: 3/2/2005 5:39:35 PM EDT
[#33]
nevermind |
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Posted: 3/2/2005 5:46:14 PM EDT
[#34]
Oh, sorry.. i didnt mean to override your statement or steal the thread... I haven't tried J&T or Del-Ton.... I haven't bought any and no dealers around here carry them.. Sorry about that man, didnt mean to hijack! |
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Posted: 3/3/2005 10:58:24 AM EDT
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you werent hijacking...i asked what LMT's site was but then i found out what it stood for...(stupid me) and found the site
...it's between DelTon, J&T, and M1S now...im still not sure...which one of the three is better quality?
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Posted: 3/3/2005 11:13:53 AM EDT
[#36]
I'd get a AR first, the hell with the Commie stuff!
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Posted: 3/3/2005 11:37:27 AM EDT
[#37]
Get both, ASAP
Then replace all M1 internals with bushy or RRA |
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Posted: 3/3/2005 3:18:47 PM EDT
[#38]
personally, im working on a bushmaster m4a3.... I've seen them as cheap as $850...
trying to get rid of my 95% Colt Match Target HBAR so i can get a bushy... sad isnt it? lol.. 1/4 MOA, but I like the M4 look as opposed to the M16A2... Also, i don't think LMT's come with B/BC/CH |
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Posted: 3/4/2005 2:38:31 AM EDT
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wish it were that simple  i've decided im gonna do the M4 first and get it from either J&T or Del-Ton....only two decisions left are del-ton or J&T and, if i get del-ton, black or green furnature? 
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Posted: 3/5/2005 11:46:09 AM EDT
[#40]
ok im REALLY thinking about getting an M1 Garand first...only $315...gonna edit the poll...
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Posted: 3/5/2005 11:59:30 AM EDT
[#41]
Where did you find a garand for $315? |
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Posted: 3/5/2005 12:30:47 PM EDT
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CMP...Greek issue rack grade Springfield. $295+20.95 shipping. read the requierments for buying before ordering...
Garand |
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Posted: 3/5/2005 4:34:37 PM EDT
[#43]
okay my PS2 is posted on the EE! take a look if you're interested! lot of games with it. and it's for a good cause! (a new gun!) DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN! (meaning me
 )PS2 |
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Posted: 3/5/2005 4:50:32 PM EDT
[#44]
CMP? Damn, im not a member of any club Damn again, I don't have proof of any marksmanship. Maybe i should send them in a 600 meter target with a bunch of holes in the 10? Lol. |
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Posted: 3/5/2005 5:36:05 PM EDT
[#45]
lol...that might work i think i might have to go with the M1 Garand...they'll be around a lot less time than the AR or AK...plus it's an F'IN GARAND! lol |
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Posted: 3/5/2005 5:45:16 PM EDT
[#46]
I'm surprised soldiers liked the garand so well..... the nice PIIIIING!!!!!!!! after the last round let the enemy know you were out of ammo!
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Posted: 3/5/2005 6:13:52 PM EDT
[#47]
SHUT UP AND LISTEN TO ME.
TOMORROW THEY WILL STILL BE MAKING M4S. THEY DON'T MAKE GARANDS ANY MORE! ....ANY MORE!!! |
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Posted: 3/5/2005 6:34:04 PM EDT
[#48]
i know...that's what i said...  P.S. BUY MY PS2! SAVE AN M1 GARAND TODAY! PS2! BUY IT! SAVE A GARAND! |
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Posted: 3/6/2005 8:18:46 AM EDT
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I voted the AK74
But I am confounded by the pricing you estimate. I am a firm believer that you get (quality-wise) what you pay for, and those investment amounts do not get you much in most cases The AK might be the exception though. That version is a good one, and the investment about right So..............go counter-culture and do the AK 74 |
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Posted: 3/6/2005 8:33:36 AM EDT
[#50]
the Garand might be good or bad condition...it'll still be shootable, just have some dings in the wood or stuff like that. the AK would be in good condition...and the AR would be good condition and quality...BUT STILL! IT'S A WWII M1 GARAND!!
PS2! BUY IT! SAVE A GARAND! |
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