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This build is looking great! I never can find any "MPD" marked bolts. I always have to use the Colt bolts.
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Quick question. Is the delta ring anodized the same color as the receivers? I've been searching in vain for the buttstock, end plate, and a FH556-216A. I broke down and ordered a Magpul ASAP and I've given up on the buttstock, I'll use one of the others you listed. For any one looking, I saw on Numerich that they have LSO Stowaway pistol grips. You might want to call them and confirm that they are drilled for the selector lever spring, the pic on their sight looks like it doesn't have it.
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Quick question. Is the delta ring anodized the same color as the receivers? I've been searching in vain for the buttstock, end plate, and a FH556-216A. I broke down and ordered a Magpul ASAP and I've given up on the buttstock, I'll use on of the others you listed. For any one looking, I saw on Numerich that they have LSO Stowaway pistol grips. You might want to call them and confirm that they are drilled for the selector lever spring, the pic on their sight looks like it doesn't have it. View Quote Worst case the LSO grip doesn't have the recess and you drill one, I did just that for mine. |
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Quick question. Is the delta ring anodized the same color as the receivers? I've been searching in vain for the buttstock, end plate, and a FH556-216A. I broke down and ordered a Magpul ASAP and I've given up on the buttstock, I'll use on of the others you listed. For any one looking, I saw on Numerich that they have LSO Stowaway pistol grips. You might want to call them and confirm that they are drilled for the selector lever spring, the pic on their sight looks like it doesn't have it. View Quote |
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Moving forward with the L119A1 build, the lower is almost complete. The Lone Star Ordnance grip is seen on all the older issue guns. http://i68.tinypic.com/2cqjj1u.png http://i64.tinypic.com/28uochi.png View Quote |
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Also, can anyone identify these forges? http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b631/Nordicmarksman/C8%20Uppers/C8%20Upper_4_zpsz6htnl9t.jpg View Quote |
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For the H marked uppers you likely saw C H ones as Colt did supply the initial uppers with the R for windage milled off.
There were also some that had C and a Devtek as well as the forge. I’m thinking Waltec but I’m not certain. Rebel Rouse would know for sure. |
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Thanks everyone! I wish I can get a better photo on the second picture. I figured they had H uppers. I know for a fact that grounded off the "R" in the adjustments for their bilingual laws.
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That's from Chris Bartocci's book right? I'll ask him for the original photo View Quote |
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That's from Chris Bartocci's book right? I'll ask him for the original photo It's not from Chris' book so no further photos. View Quote The second photo may be a later Waltec forge code, but that image is from Vickers Guide AR-15 Vol. 2. The second photo is from the Diemaco/Colt Canada section. The gun pictured was the Diemaco LSW sporting a weaver rail with a Diemaco A1 carry handle. |
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Got some parts in, I've almost got most of the hard to get stuff covered. So far I have a U.K./SAS RAS lower rail, Surefire fh556-216a, large tic safety, Lone Star Ordnance grip and a Colt Canada pebble stock. Luckily everything is new. The last thing to tactical as far as obscure parts is figuring out the barrel. I've got a Diemaco/Cerro upper that I sent out to get re-profiled and anodized Colt Canada grey. I'm loving this build so far.... https://i.imgur.com/ZuMWy5O.jpg https://i.imgur.com/8UNLM9Z.jpg View Quote |
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Got some parts in, I’ve almost got most of the hard to get stuff covered. So far I have a U.K./SAS RAS lower rail, Surefire fh556-216a, large tic safety, Lone Star Ordnance grip and a Colt Canada pebble stock. Luckily everything is new. The last thing to tactical as far as obscure parts is figuring out the barrel. I’ve got a Diemaco/Cerro upper that I sent out to get re-profiled and anodized Colt Canada grey. I’m loving this build so far.... View Quote Where is the best source for safeties with tics? All Colts, old and new except SP1, use a line instead of a V notch cut-out. To bad Chris Bartocci wasn't able to get that change order done because, well... Colt being Colt. |
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Quoted: I see you acquired a Colt Canada stock. Very nice. I'm saving mine for my C8-CQB. Since mine is based off one of the earlier models, I'll be using a Colt N1 CAR-15 stock that I just got yesterday. Those stocks are hard enough to source, and I definitely have been deterred from building a C7A2. I probably will focus on the early C7 rifles since that doesn't require unique Canadian parts except for the bolt. Where is the best source for safeties with tics? All Colts, old and new except SP1, use a line instead of a V notch cut-out. To bad Chris Bartocci wasn't able to get that change order done because, well... Colt being Colt. View Quote |
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That's just a teaser. Any more, then I would be hijacking this forum to a C8 discussion. View Quote B - Why not start a thread on the C8? There are enough differences from the US and the British Guns that it'd be a cool thread! |
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This thread is why ARFCOM is such a fascinating place. The attention to trivia and detail.
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Quoted: Really...? Well then your going to LOOOVE THIS!!! https://i.imgur.com/mN9AXtC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/XjF7SHN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/IZ1ENB7.jpg That's just a teaser. Any more, then I would be hijacking this forum to a C8 discussion. I probably won't be sending you any receivers for a little while, because Diemaco goodies ain't cheap. I probably will send over my Stowaway grip because it was from a paintball gun and it doesn't have the hole for the spring detent. Also, the Surefire flash hider arrived today. Thanks Elucidate! EDIT: Okay now, I'm just showing off at this point... https://i.imgur.com/iLNP3Wx.jpg View Quote |
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Quoted: I don't know this for sure so don't quote me, but, I think they come from the factory with them. The stock I have came with it attached already, I just put the zip tie on for additional security. View Quote The ziptie isn't really needed because the glue is excellent but it doesn't harm either so I always fit it. |
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Really...? Well then your going to LOOOVE THIS!!! https://i.imgur.com/mN9AXtC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/XjF7SHN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/IZ1ENB7.jpg That's just a teaser. Any more, then I would be hijacking this forum to a C8 discussion. I probably won't be sending you any receivers for a little while, because Diemaco goodies ain't cheap. I probably will send over my Stowaway grip because it was from a paintball gun and it doesn't have the hole for the spring detent. Also, the Surefire flash hider arrived today. Thanks Elucidate! EDIT: Okay now, I'm just showing off at this point... https://i.imgur.com/iLNP3Wx.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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LOVE THIS!!! https://i.imgur.com/mN9AXtC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/XjF7SHN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/IZ1ENB7.jpg That's just a teaser. Any more, then I would be hijacking this forum to a C8 discussion. I probably won't be sending you any receivers for a little while, because Diemaco goodies ain't cheap. I probably will send over my Stowaway grip because it was from a paintball gun and it doesn't have the hole for the spring detent. Also, the Surefire flash hider arrived today. Thanks Elucidate! EDIT: Okay now, I'm just showing off at this point... https://i.imgur.com/iLNP3Wx.jpg |
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You are correct. The factory fits the Buttpad and it's glued in place there also. The ziptie isn't really needed because the glue is excellent but it doesn't harm either so I always fit it. View Quote Left is the green Canadian stock and on the right is a Colt N1 stock take-off from a AR-15A2 sporter (w/ Diemaco-style buttpad) Here is the "N" mark on the Colt stock: Notice the mold lines here. I've seen both in pictures before. It seems the "replica" resembles the earlier buttpad in Elucidate's picture on his first post here: http://oi67.tinypic.com/97352r.jpg (top rifle w/ buttpad) Now this is where it gets interesting. I don't know about earlier Diemaco buttpads, but Colt Canada in traditional Diemaco-style, goes as far as to batch codes their buttpads like their barrels and bolts! A good distinction between real and replica, is the number markings on the inside. A closer look. I'm guessing the "3" is a mold number, and the other being the batch code. I do plan on zip tying the Colt stock since the replica is slightly easier to take off, but none of the buttpads are going to come off unless you intentionally take it off. I'm not even going to mess with my black Canadian stock because I don't think that sucker is coming off. |
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Don’t they use LW Schneider for the small parts? Not sure if they always used them though.
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One of these popped up for sale locally, figured I'd share the pictures with you guys. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/Black_Hawk_169/C8/IMG_2100_redimensionner_zpsdp9m7q6n.jpg C8SFW upper with 10" HB, issued to British RMP CP units and Canadian SOF. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/Black_Hawk_169/C8/IMG_2102_redimensionner_zpsxylgcgfv.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/Black_Hawk_169/C8/IMG_2103_redimensionner_zpshupvxfm4.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/Black_Hawk_169/C8/IMG_2112_redimensionner_zpsffbzdlx5.jpg Commonly issued with standard A2 or Smith Vortex G6A2, and Canadian/British KAC RAS. View Quote I have armorers manual info showing the large barrels on the A1. So to imitate in the US, the only way i know of would be to use the Colt FBI barrel (11.5") and cut it down. |
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I figured they were all heavy barrels. However, my experience regarding the L119A1, unlike C8 rifles, is limited. The L119 SFW is a heavy barrel, so it makes sense. Not right now, but I am considering selling my unfired BCM SFW upper minus the Simon Sleeve and GUNFIGHTER Mod.0 comp. The barrel profile of that upper is looks close to a Diemaco heavy barrel and 100% exactly the same contour of the Colt 11.5" FBI barrel. The barrel can be trimmed to the correct 10" (or 9.9" whichever) barrel length.
Hit me up if your interested. EDIT (6/13/18): Sold |
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The FBI barrel looks good if you are wanting to go all the way and engrave it with the correct markings. All the colt engravings are on the end of the barrel just above the thread shoulder, so once it's cut down to the right length, those will be gone. The date engraving will still be there, but that's minimal.
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I just came across this listing of police trade-in Colt 6520s:
https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/202970 According to the pics, at least one is made in Canada, and is probably from the same batch of rifles from which I posted pics of earlier (on page two) in this thread: If you're lucky, you can find out if they still have it (or others like it). If it was indeed from the same batch of rifles that mine was, then it will be chock full of all sorts of Diemaco goodies. |
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I just came across this listing of police trade-in Colt 6520s. According to the pics, at least one is made in Canada, and is probably from the same batch of rifles from which I posted pics of earlier on page two in this thread. View Quote One can dream though... |
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I just came across this listing of police trade-in Colt 6520s: https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/202970 View Quote Plus with luck I should be able to harvest some Diemaco parts. |
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Thanks! I had to order one as they appear to have the correct barrel profile I need for another clone. Plus with luck I should be able to harvest some Diemaco parts. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I just came across this listing of police trade-in Colt 6520s: https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/202970 Plus with luck I should be able to harvest some Diemaco parts. |
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I just came across this listing of police trade-in Colt 6520s: https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/202970 According to the pics, at least one is made in Canada, and is probably from the same batch of rifles from which I posted pics of earlier (on page two) in this thread: https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/prodimages/alt_images/colt-ar15_2.jpg If you're lucky, you can find out if they still have it (or others like it). If it was indeed from the same batch of rifles that mine was, then it will be chock full of all sorts of Diemaco goodies. View Quote |
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I just came across this listing of police trade-in Colt 6520s: https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/202970 According to the pics, at least one is made in Canada, and is probably from the same batch of rifles from which I posted pics of earlier (on page two) in this thread: https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/prodimages/alt_images/colt-ar15_2.jpg If you're lucky, you can find out if they still have it (or others like it). If it was indeed from the same batch of rifles that mine was, then it will be chock full of all sorts of Diemaco goodies. I don't remember if the rifle I had was a small or large pin lower, and I can't tell from the pics in the ad. The lowers look to be "restricted" marked, so my hunch would be they are small pin, but I honestly don't know for sure. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. |
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I can’t speak for this specific batch but all of the LE “restricted” weapons that I have been issued or owned before 2008 were large pin FCG.
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Great work so far! The two photographs of the carbines on the floor are not of captured rifles... that must have been tacked on over the years, hahaha. The original photographs were posted here by an ARFCOM member, the 2008 date sounds about right. IIRC he was an Air Force guy who got a chance to take photographs of coalition partner weapons--you can see his ABUs and pea-soup green boots peeking out in the photographs, hahaha. ~Augee View Quote Me. I took those pictures at KAF on June 8, 2008, and posted them here. after this operation Help with rifle IDs |
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Oh, yeah, I forgot.
allegedly, captured SAS rifles in Iraq. View Quote Now they are 'captured'? So, shortly after I posted those, someone from here posted them to "militaryphotos.net", in which the pictures were allegedly taken by a USAF JTAC in AFG (I am NOT a JTAC). Then some airsoft company clones the near rifle, down to the SN. Now, 10-years later, they are captured in IRQ. |
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Here's a few details I remember about those rifles: The Surefire lights on them had the same KL4 head I had on the Surefire flashlight (L4 Digital Lumamax) I had during that deployment. Which I thought was odd, because I thought it didn't have enough light even for a flashlight. The suppressor model number I can't remember, and I thought I wrote it down somewhere, but isn't in the 'little green book' I had on that trip (I just looked through it). It was a Surefire model. I did buy a flashhider for that model, which I have in front of me, but it doesn't have any markings on it. Can anyone ID it? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61270/20180216_101718e-453618.jpg The acogs were graduated to 1000, which IIRC was an ECOS model. View Quote You're not wrong on the flashlight, flashlight technology for the UK is always about 15 years behind the times. The Flash Hider you linked is the 212A: https://www.surefire.com/fh556-212a.html As far as ID for the specific parts on the rifles you posted, I now have all of that info, as I have been in contact with Surefire, Trijicon, Colt Canada etc. I did not know about the different flashlight head, but I do know the specifics of the ACOG and red dot, I'll post that next. |
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Aaaah, the side on picture is better. That looks to be a Surefire but you're right its thicker. I suspect its an older model.
The 216A flash hiders are different now too, the old ones had serrations on the inside of the prongs. Surefire keeps adapting and changing and not telling anyone. |
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