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Posted: 3/9/2006 3:36:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/9/2006 4:46:42 AM EDT
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Hey I kept on topic by posting pics of a MK18, as requested.
Not my fault I had to defend my only thick leather belt. Yes, I will order a tacticool belt soon. |
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Posted: 3/9/2006 1:07:37 PM EDT
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Come on brother, you were asking for it! 
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Posted: 3/9/2006 3:52:06 PM EDT
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Racer...........since you work with them...... why aren't there more Mk18's in service? Have they been replaced, or unseated by MP5's 7's or UMP's, or other sub-guns? Or are they just not in hands of those who typically end up in public photos? |
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Posted: 3/9/2006 5:10:15 PM EDT
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There's a metric ton of MK18s in service, as it has replaced the MP5 except for where its called for as a mission specific item (MP5SD). AFAIK, there are no MP7s or UMPs in usage by the US military. |
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Posted: 3/9/2006 6:25:10 PM EDT
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Alright, I'll give you that. But only because I've eaten in the Nick Rowe chow hall and you sig reminded me of that place. |
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Posted: 3/9/2006 6:52:25 PM EDT
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here, here, here are some more pics of one straight from the NAB
http://www.lisascadron.com/sealtribute/MK18.jpg http://www.lisascadron.com/sealtribute/MK182.jpg http://www.lisascadron.com/sealtribute/MK183.jpg The question:
now you have proof |
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Posted: 3/9/2006 7:11:01 PM EDT
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COLTXM177, Where can I go to find more Pic's of the MK18 like you posted here ?
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Posted: 3/9/2006 7:18:03 PM EDT
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Those are the only ones I have.
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Posted: 3/9/2006 7:27:27 PM EDT
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I've seen pics of him before with his fully painted rifle. This must be a picture taken right after he received his Mk18 upper or he just hadn't made it to the local ACE yet! Want2race- you should be whipped with that belt for posting a picture of yourself in BDUs while wearing EVERY pair of socks you own on your junk! You ought to feel proud. You made me feel very gay when I looked at that picture. I was like, "WTF is this for? What am I missing here? Why is he posting this?" and then it hit me "There's no good reason. I've just been tricked into looking at this f*cker's package!" I feel like I've been raped! 
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Posted: 3/10/2006 11:00:17 AM EDT
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JosEphus: That closeup is for all the 'belt haters' !
[snip] A Rangers tears can cure cancer, too bad a Ranger never cries. When the boogie man goes to sleep, he checks the closet for a Ranger. A Ranger is not hung like a horse, a Horse is hung like a Ranger. [snip] |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 11:41:02 AM EDT
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IM inbound. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 2:38:19 PM EDT
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Can you get some pics of the barrel markings??? Very interested. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:37:01 PM EDT
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tagged
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:54:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/10/2006 7:28:36 PM EDT
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? The real one doesnt have a free float rail.... |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 7:34:10 PM EDT
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Your Crane stock could go in to the first click and save three inches, while providing a proper cheek weld. It is not an accident that I never bought an AUG.
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Posted: 3/10/2006 7:34:49 PM EDT
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Obligatory tag.
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Posted: 3/10/2006 7:36:47 PM EDT
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Does the real one have a non-free float KAC rail? If so, I can put that on instead. I have both kinds.
 Notice how the M4-2000 flash hider fits fine. I was not sure it would. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 7:41:08 PM EDT
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Who gives a shit what the real one has? RAS sucks ass. The URX looks good, but DD and Larue have KAC beat.
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Posted: 3/10/2006 7:48:11 PM EDT
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I agree in the sense that if I did not have an old KAC rail sitting around I would not buy one just to keep it authentic.
But I have the old KAC rail on two rifles currently, so I can pull one off one of those. For example, I have a Colt 16 inch 'm4' upper that came with one. Since there is no such thing as a 16 inch M4, there is no sense in keeping that original. I can pull the rail from it and use it on the LMT 10.5. Yes Daniel Defense and LaRue are both super nice. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 8:00:51 PM EDT
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I am not alone in wishing the military would drop the KAC. But they do add that key authenticity.
I am still trying to find someone that makes an A4 upper with no forward assist, and I am not alone in thinking they are less than useful either. In fact, one of my friends from ARFcom goes so far as to say that they do more harm than good. By using a URX and FAless upper, you would save 3/4 of a pound. That weight can go right back into a 12 inch barrel, and you will have a weapon that does everything an M4 does, only lighter, shorter and cleaner. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 3:12:48 AM EDT
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Bit OT, but.... I guess the AAC M4-2000 has zero overlapp (of the FH) when attached? |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 3:30:01 AM EDT
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NSW is issued the KAC RAS & RIS. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 4:12:31 AM EDT
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Why do you not like the forward assist? It is needed to quietly chamber a round. I am not sure I would want to give that up. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 4:39:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/11/2006 5:14:22 AM EDT
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www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=8735&title=TACTICAL+AIMPOINT+COMP+MOUNT
Is this the correct mount? |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 5:18:41 AM EDT
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That's a PRi mount, or an exact copy. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 5:23:35 AM EDT
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Because maybe he is like Ekie and likes to build replicas. Nothing wrong with that. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 6:12:46 AM EDT
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I wonder why Colt M4 barrels either the M4 or the M4 SOCOM barrel, don't have the CB markings when they obviously have chromelined bores... HUNTER. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 9:28:35 AM EDT
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I'd rather have a few serrations milled onto the bolt carrier like a Norwegian G3. The FA is a little on the portly side, and I don't ever use it. It is useless weight. I was once told by an instructor of mine to remove my right hand from the pistol grip and tap the FA during the loading sequence. I did not adopt that procedure. The FA is on the wrong side of the weapon. Not one of my clearance drills uses the FA. LeitnerWise and Grendel chambered uppers do not use the deflector either- you can see where I'm going with this. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 9:34:59 AM EDT
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The SCAR has a reciprocating charging handle so it can also serve a forward assist function.
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Posted: 3/11/2006 9:39:44 AM EDT
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If I'm nopt mistaken that is one of the things they are talkiing about changing for the Gen 3. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 9:44:29 AM EDT
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I heard people ask them to change it. But I think one needs a way to close the bolt quietly.
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Posted: 3/11/2006 10:04:28 AM EDT
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Jesus. Could you be more fucking pompous and full of yourself? |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 10:10:22 AM EDT
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I have the non-free float KAC rail on now. It was nice I did not have to remove the front sight.
So... just when I thought I was going for original authenticity, I decided I can't stand the LMT rear sight. I think it is butt ugly and I like the KAC 600 meter so much better. I also like the KAC 300 meter, but I am out of those. Besides my LMT sight turned purple when I put it into my sovent tank! That is a bummer. Bad anodize job. Also my original plan was to use an AIMPOINT but now I plan to use an Eotech 553 once I can get one. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 10:13:59 AM EDT
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Yes. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 10:31:39 AM EDT
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That's OK, when you are an ARFCOM/keyboard commando and your name has "Combat" in it, you can be as arrogant as you want to be. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 10:51:06 AM EDT
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Lee, if you want to know what the name means, spend the 24 dollars and search the archives. There are two threads about it. The general consensus is that it should stand.
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Posted: 3/11/2006 11:34:38 AM EDT
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Sorry Seth but that was pretty funny brother. 
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Posted: 3/11/2006 11:51:58 AM EDT
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The barrel markings on the M4 and the M4A1 are mandated by RIA. Am sure Colt is free to mark thier MK18 barrels how ever they want. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 11:54:33 AM EDT
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I'm living proof that someone can be a arrogant asshole and still be right. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 1:08:41 PM EDT
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...and knowing is half the battle. Non freefloat KAC HGs, from my view. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 1:16:16 PM EDT
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IIRC there was a unit that attempted to purchase Larue handguards for their M4s, but were directed to the KAC RAS. Military procurement systems are often out of date. The RAS was cool when it was the main contender. It has been replaced on the civilian side by better options. This does not affect how well, or poorly it works. It still does everything just like it used to.
We have, however, reached a point in development where the Larue, URX and DD rails have eclipsed the non float units, and done it for the same or only slightly greater price. So while a correct replica uses an RAS, the military should be looking very hard at adopting a new rail system. It appears that the advent of the SCAR program may solve the problem, because the SCAR is a better rifle for the money (IMO), assuming there are no gremlins yet to be discovered. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 1:18:41 PM EDT
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The other reason to get rid of the FA is because it would lower the civilian price by approximately 14 dollars.
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Posted: 3/11/2006 2:13:11 PM EDT
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From the pics I see the RIS is used on the MK18.
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Posted: 3/11/2006 2:21:19 PM EDT
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As I've stated before. The KAC RIS and RAS are in use with NSW. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 2:24:47 PM EDT
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How does a RIS differ from a RAS?
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Posted: 3/11/2006 2:25:54 PM EDT
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Right, LMT upper and RAS are suppose to be in use, but all the pictures show Colt uppers and RIS handguards. They are apparently more photogenic. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 2:42:15 PM EDT
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How many MK18's have you been around? A lot of the photos are from 01' to 02'. You've seen five photos and there are THOUSANDS of these issued. If you still feel uncomfortable that "Colt" isn't the "sole provider" of the MK18 then do a search at www.tacticalforums.com . While your there search LMT and KAC RAS in the SEAL forum. You can also call LMT and talk to Gene and see what he has to say. I get so tired of the armchair commando "Colt Geeks" around here. Go ahead and question me all you want..... but that still makes you a  |
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