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11/18/2006 10:49:05 AM EDT
[#1]
Instead of Edwin's clean and mint MRP, here is my dirty one



And with the slip on flash hider (sleeves over the OPS Inc brake)


I took it to the AZ Big Sandy MG shoot, mated it with an M16 lower and shot 1000rds through it.  My good friend RKM had bought 50K of American Ammunition ammo at the SHOT Show, after he passed away in July we bought some for ourselves and sold the rest of the 50K at the AZ MG shoot.  The ammo was terrible, at least one of the bullets could not even leave the muzzle straight and struck the end of my OPS Inc brake, it sent shrapnel flying back to my face.  At the time I had no idea what got me in the face, when I got home I found copper and lead residue inside the brake
11/27/2006 1:38:17 PM EDT
[#2]
Put my original MRP back into it's scoped 16" configuration.
This thing is a heck of a lot of fun to shoot with the very accurate 16" SS barrel and the 3.5-15X NSX.

11/30/2006 7:26:37 PM EDT
[#3]
I received 2 each 16" MRP barrels & bolts from Wes around mid-Sept. So the following weekend I took both MRPs with the  6.8 16" barrels and my 6.8 RECCE to range. Bringing my RECCE really was an after thought since I wanted to focus on the 6.8 barreled MRPs.

I have been using a Leupold 3-9x M/RT M3 in a LaRue mount as my range scope. All my primary variable optics are now NXS.

My initial results shooting for accuracy left me a little frustrated, I couldn't get anything less than ~2.5MOA with either MRP using both Rem 115gr SMK and Hornaday 110gr OTMs. My expectations were based on my 16" SS and C/L barrels. The 5.56MM C/L barrels hold <1MOA with Mk262 MOD1 & Hornaday TAP when I do my part.  I checked all the obvious suspects such as barrel torque , scope mount etc. All was go to go. Then I thought maybe I just having a really bad day or ammo related issues. So I decide to try my '03 vintage MSTN RECCE which has a TA11E. This gas gun shoots sub 0.5MOA with Rem 115gr OTM/SMK amd the Hornaday 110 gr  OTM loading with a NXS scope. With the TA11E, I quickly put 10 rounds down range in just under 1MOA. So ammo certainly was not an issue. That left possibly me or my range scope.

Unfortunately, the SHTF at work and a project had to be finshed by mid-Nov. To make a long story short, I had several email disscussions with Wes on my results. This disscussion included two custom 16" S/S barrels. The day after Thanksgiving, I went back out after pulling one of my NXS 2.5-10X scopes from one of my 5.56MM RECCEs. The results this time were dramtically different with 16" MRP barrels. I shot 5 groups each with 5 rounds using the Hornaday 110gr OTMS with both MRPs. One barrel shot <0.65MOA and the other <1MOA. Obviously the M/RT has an issue. This is a seperate issue now I will be working with Leupold on.

Just one real down-sides now:

1. Not threaded 5/8X24
11/30/2006 9:06:00 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
I received 2 each 16" MRP barrels & bolts from Wes around mid-Sept. So the following weekend I took both MRPs with the  6.8 16" barrels and my 6.8 RECCE to range. Bringing my RECCE really was an after thought since I wanted to focus on the 6.8 barreled MRPs.

I have been using a Leupold 3-9x M/RT M3 in a LaRue mount as my range scope. All my primary variable optics are now NXS.

My initial results shooting for accuracy left me a little frustrated, I couldn't get anything less than ~2.5MOA with either MRP using both Rem 115gr SMK and Hornaday 110gr OTMs. My expectations were based on my 16" SS and C/L barrels. The 5.56MM C/L barrels hold <1MOA with Mk262 MOD1 & Hornaday TAP when I do my part.  I checked all the obvious suspects such as barrel torque , scope mount etc. All was go to go. Then I thought maybe I just having a really bad day or ammo related issues. So I decide to try my '03 vintage MSTN RECCE which has a TA11E. This gas gun shoots sub 0.5MOA with Rem 115gr OTM/SMK amd the Hornaday 110 gr  OTM loading with a NXS scope. With the TA11E, I quickly put 10 rounds down range in just under 1MOA. So ammo certainly was not an issue. That left possibly me or my range scope.

Unfortunately, the SHTF at work and a project had to be finshed by mid-Nov. To make a long story short, I had several email disscussions with Wes on my results. This disscussion included two custom 16" S/S barrels. The day after Thanksgiving, I went back out after pulling one of my NXS 2.5-10X scopes from one of my 5.56MM RECCEs. The results this time were dramtically different with 16" MRP barrels. I shot 5 groups each with 5 rounds using the Hornaday 110gr OTMS with both MRPs. One barrel shot <0.65MOA and the other <1MOA. Obviously the M/RT has an issue. This is a seperate issue now I will be working with Leupold on.

Just one real down-sides now:

1. Not threaded 5/8X24


So you were the one WES cut the 18" barrels to 16" for?  I take it your original barrels were 16" C/L barrels...

Spooky
11/30/2006 10:46:02 PM EDT
[#5]
PETE HAS 16" C/L BARRELS.

WE DO HAVE 16" S/S BARRELS IN STOCK.

12/1/2006 10:27:42 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Just one real down-sides now:

1. Not threaded 5/8X24


What are they threaded?
12/1/2006 4:24:26 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

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Just one real down-sides now:

1. Not threaded 5/8X24


What are they threaded?


I'd like to know too

Was thinking of using the MSTN/PRI 6.8mm brake with the 6.8mm barrel
12/1/2006 6:46:49 PM EDT
[#8]

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PETE HAS 16" C/L BARRELS.

WE DO HAVE 16" S/S BARRELS IN STOCK.



Wes is correct, the results post above were with my original 16" C/L barrels as delivered by LMT.

As to the LMT barrel threading: 1/2x28 IIRC.
12/1/2006 8:35:33 PM EDT
[#9]

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As to the LMT barrel threading: 1/2x28 IIRC.

That kinda sucks.
12/1/2006 11:58:24 PM EDT
[#10]

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As to the LMT barrel threading: 1/2x28 IIRC.

That kinda sucks.


WHAT DID YOU WISH TO MOUNT?

WES
12/2/2006 12:24:58 AM EDT
[#11]
A YHM Phantom mount for my 308 can, but it's not really a big deal.

12/3/2006 11:04:16 PM EDT
[#12]

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A YHM Phantom mount for my 308 can, but it's not really a big deal.



Just use the YHM 223 Phantom flash hider for their 223 QD suppressor.It  works with the YHM 308 QD can.My YHM 308 can is actually quieter on my MRP(223 14.5 inch) than my dedicated 223 cans on 16 inch barrels.
12/4/2006 11:03:18 AM EDT
[#13]






12/4/2006 8:58:34 PM EDT
[#14]

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A YHM Phantom mount for my 308 can, but it's not really a big deal.



Just use the YHM 223 Phantom flash hider for their 223 QD suppressor.It  works with the YHM 308 QD can.My YHM 308 can is actually quieter on my MRP(223 14.5 inch) than my dedicated 223 cans on 16 inch barrels.


Thanks for the idea. Do you know for sure if the bore of the FH is big enough for 6.8?
12/5/2006 1:58:03 PM EDT
[#15]
Whoa, I didn't realize that the barrel in question was a 6.8
I think you will have to "open" the FH up.
12/5/2006 5:10:59 PM EDT
[#16]

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THE CQB MRP IS THE SAME LENGTH AS A BASIC RECEIVER AND 9" FOREND. IT WEIGHS 23 OUNCES.

WES GRANT
M.S.T.N.


Anybody know what the rifle length MRP weighs?
How about the 16" chrome lined barrel? 14 1/2" barrel?
Thanks.....Chad
12/9/2006 3:47:20 PM EDT
[#17]
CQB MRP, 10.5"


 
12/9/2006 8:33:35 PM EDT
[#18]
What happened to the toe of your Vltor stock?
12/10/2006 9:05:28 AM EDT
[#19]
I remove it to speed up "cupping" when clearing rooms. Basicly, it is one less thing to snag on equipment. I started doing that to my buttstocks in '99' after course and never changed my ways.  
12/10/2006 9:58:39 PM EDT
[#20]
Your shoulders must hurt like a motherfooker
12/10/2006 10:04:06 PM EDT
[#21]

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CQB MRP, 10.5"
i143.photobucket.com/albums/r126/mike2277/sbr005.jpg

i143.photobucket.com/albums/r126/mike2277/sbr013.jpg  


That's a great MRP, have you used it in the Sandbox?
12/10/2006 10:19:45 PM EDT
[#22]
Thanks wes1. I had taken the upper on my last trip. The lower is just old - '89'. the performance of the MRP in the sand is outstanding to say the least. The 10.5 is still good enough to to drop 200 + meter targets using 77's.  
12/16/2006 8:18:32 PM EDT
[#23]
Not only dirty, but also wet now
12/17/2006 9:22:15 AM EDT
[#24]

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Not only dirty, but also wet now
i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Duffypoo/untitled.jpg


Doesn't the song say it never rains in Southern California?  


12/17/2006 9:46:41 AM EDT
[#25]
holy shit, where the hell have you been?  I was gonna start a thread on ar15 discussions on your whereabouts
Now that you're back, post some pics of your new toys (that's right, I just know you got new toys)
12/17/2006 5:53:04 PM EDT
[#26]

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i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/michealj88/IMG_0957Large.jpg


Hey man that kind of looks like an area I know out by Eagle Mountain/The Ranches. Am I close?
12/17/2006 9:32:43 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
I had taken the upper on my last trip. The performance of the MRP in the sand is outstanding to say the least. The 10.5 is still good enough to to drop 200 + meter targets using 77's.  



Nice.
A couple questions por favor.
Were you running the CQB MRP all the time?
and also, were you just running an aimpoint, or other optics?
Does anyone bitch when the 10.5 starts getting noisy indoors?
Thanks
12/18/2006 9:42:45 AM EDT
[#28]
I ran the 14.5" as well. It's just as good, however, I just ran the 10.5 for the most part as it was more user friendly length wise. I used the M68 all the time; I know they kick butt- but I am not much of a HOLO fan. and lastly, whats not noisy indoors?

Take it easy.
12/19/2006 1:13:43 AM EDT
[#29]
If anyone is interested in trading their rifle length MRP receiver ***Receiver only-NO barrel/NO BCG*** for my CQB length MRP receiver, shoot me an email at [email protected]
12/19/2006 8:38:14 PM EDT
[#30]

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If anyone is interested in trading their rifle length MRP receiver ***Receiver only-NO barrel/NO BCG*** for my CQB length MRP receiver, shoot me an email at [email protected]


Why the trade?  What is lacking in the CQB version?

Spooky
12/19/2006 9:22:45 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

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If anyone is interested in trading their rifle length MRP receiver ***Receiver only-NO barrel/NO BCG*** for my CQB length MRP receiver, shoot me an email at [email protected]


Why the trade?  What is lacking in the CQB version?

Spooky


Only lacking for my purpose. I want to use the rifle length as a multi purpose upper with my 14.5" CL barrel, Tripower or Eotech as a CQB set-up, and a 18" 6.8 barrel with my Leupold scope as a medium range precision set-up.
12/20/2006 6:27:52 PM EDT
[#32]

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If anyone is interested in trading their rifle length MRP receiver ***Receiver only-NO barrel/NO BCG*** for my CQB length MRP receiver, shoot me an email at [email protected]


Why the trade?  What is lacking in the CQB version?

Spooky


Only lacking for my purpose. I want to use the rifle length as a multi purpose upper with my 14.5" CL barrel, Tripower or Eotech as a CQB set-up, and a 18" 6.8 barrel with my Leupold scope as a medium range precision set-up.


I only have only the CQB version twins, they work in 5.56M with a 16" in that role. More than enough rail space. What are you planning to attach to your MRP? I have found the 18" lacking compared to the 16" (IMHO) out to 500M. If LMT does not provide a 16" S/S, then I will most likely have Wes get me 2 custom 16" S/S barrels. I have not used my 16" 6.8 C/L past 100M to date, but they will shoot at 100M.
12/27/2006 4:24:15 AM EDT
[#33]

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Put my original MRP back into it's scoped 16" configuration.
This thing is a heck of a lot of fun to shoot with the very accurate 16" SS barrel and the 3.5-15X NSX.

www.pbase.com/edwin907/image/70869577/original.jpg


Beautiful.  Do you have any pics of that with a sopmod stock and spr mount?

Thanks to you guys I now have a folder named MRPs with 60 pictures in it.  I'm going to go crazy until I have one.  So little money and such a long list.
12/27/2006 8:54:01 AM EDT
[#34]

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Beautiful.  Do you have any pics of that with a sopmod stock and spr mount?

No SPR mount, but here are some with the SOPMOD.












12/27/2006 9:22:18 AM EDT
[#35]
Here's one with a SOPMOD stock and SPR mount
12/27/2006 4:17:06 PM EDT
[#36]
Very nice fellas.  Now lets see them being used.  You know, for size comparison.
12/27/2006 9:35:24 PM EDT
[#37]
like this?


and this? (In AZ, the Big Sandy Shoot last Oct)
12/27/2006 9:41:37 PM EDT
[#38]
show-off...lol
12/27/2006 9:46:02 PM EDT
[#39]
well I did invite you to go with
12/27/2006 11:55:25 PM EDT
[#40]

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like this?
i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Duffypoo/DECshoot-016.jpg

and this? (In AZ, the Big Sandy Shoot last Oct)
i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Duffypoo/th_Movie.jpg


Yeah I like that.  Show me more show me more.
12/29/2006 9:55:29 AM EDT
[#41]
I think these pics belong in here too.





12/29/2006 11:44:31 AM EDT
[#42]

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I think these pics belong in here too.

i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/chico561/DSC00296.jpg

i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/chico561/DSC00301.jpg



Wes, I think you're mistaken, it belongs with me!
12/29/2006 11:52:34 AM EDT
[#43]

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I think these pics belong in here too.

i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/chico561/DSC00296.jpg

i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/chico561/DSC00301.jpg



Wes, I think you're mistaken, it belongs with me!


Haha, if you are nice, I will let you hold it in January!
12/29/2006 4:36:47 PM EDT
[#44]

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I think these pics belong in here too.

i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/chico561/DSC00296.jpg

i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/chico561/DSC00301.jpg



Wes1,

Nice looking rifle!!!  How do you like that Iron Dot?  I take it that is the co-witness version.  Is that your range bag?  What kind is it?  What did you use to make your whole rifle tan?  

Thanks!
Spooky
12/29/2006 4:37:56 PM EDT
[#45]

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If anyone is interested in trading their rifle length MRP receiver ***Receiver only-NO barrel/NO BCG*** for my CQB length MRP receiver, shoot me an email at [email protected]


Why the trade?  What is lacking in the CQB version?

Spooky


Only lacking for my purpose. I want to use the rifle length as a multi purpose upper with my 14.5" CL barrel, Tripower or Eotech as a CQB set-up, and a 18" 6.8 barrel with my Leupold scope as a medium range precision set-up.


I only have only the CQB version twins, they work in 5.56M with a 16" in that role. More than enough rail space. What are you planning to attach to your MRP? I have found the 18" lacking compared to the 16" (IMHO) out to 500M. If LMT does not provide a 16" S/S, then I will most likely have Wes get me 2 custom 16" S/S barrels. I have not used my 16" 6.8 C/L past 100M to date, but they will shoot at 100M.


pcurtis,

What size groups are you getting at 100m with the C/L 6.8 barrels?  What ammo are you using?  I'm getting my 6.8 barrel after the New Year and wanted to know what works!

Spooky
12/29/2006 11:36:38 PM EDT
[#46]

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I think these pics belong in here too.

i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/chico561/DSC00296.jpg

i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/chico561/DSC00301.jpg



Wes1,

Nice looking rifle!!!  How do you like that Iron Dot?  I take it that is the co-witness version.  Is that your range bag?  What kind is it?  What did you use to make your whole rifle tan?  

Thanks!
Spooky


It's actually a Doctor Optic 3.5MOA in the Iron Dot Mount, and it does co-witness.
As for the Bag, it's my man purse.I carry it every day.It has everything a man can need, such as a Glock, mags, light, knife, check book, phone, etc...
I just got it this week, and I love it.
BAIL OUT BAG
Oh, and I paint all my rifles in Brownell's Alumi-HydeII, it's been a very durable finish.
12/30/2006 8:06:10 PM EDT
[#47]
This is my first LMT MRP with POF P-416 and a few of its new friends!http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q175/KM223_2006/P1010158_edited.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q175/KM223_2006/P1010161_edited.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q175/KM223_2006/P1010160_edited.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q175/KM223_2006/P1010162_edited.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q175/KM223_2006/P1010153.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q175/KM223_2006/P1010154.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q175/KM223_2006/P1010155.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q175/KM223_2006/P1010153-1.jpg

LMT MRP CQB 16" upper
Yankee Hill Phantom flash hider
LMT bolt with McFarland gas ring
LMT bolt carrier
Troy flip-up front and rear sights
Aimpoint M2 with killflash mounted on LaRue LT150 QD
Badger tactical latch
Surefire M900 with LaRue 17 QD upgrade
POF P-416 lower
Vltor carbine Modstock with Vltor Buffer tube
CQD end plate
TangoDown battle grip
ambi safety
KNS gen2 anti-walk pins
KNS firing pin retainer
Oberland Arms trigger guard
and the all important Accu-Wedge

1/1/2007 6:50:02 PM EDT
[#48]

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If anyone is interested in trading their rifle length MRP receiver ***Receiver only-NO barrel/NO BCG*** for my CQB length MRP receiver, shoot me an email at [email protected]


Why the trade?  What is lacking in the CQB version?

Spooky


Only lacking for my purpose. I want to use the rifle length as a multi purpose upper with my 14.5" CL barrel, Tripower or Eotech as a CQB set-up, and a 18" 6.8 barrel with my Leupold scope as a medium range precision set-up.


I only have only the CQB version twins, they work in 5.56M with a 16" in that role. More than enough rail space. What are you planning to attach to your MRP? I have found the 18" lacking compared to the 16" (IMHO) out to 500M. If LMT does not provide a 16" S/S, then I will most likely have Wes get me 2 custom 16" S/S barrels. I have not used my 16" 6.8 C/L past 100M to date, but they will shoot at 100M.


pcurtis,

What size groups are you getting at 100m with the C/L 6.8 barrels?  What ammo are you using?  I'm getting my 6.8 barrel after the New Year and wanted to know what works!

Spooky


Spooky, I don't post on this site as much as in that past. Both of the 16" 6.8 C/L barrels will shoot <1MOA at 100M. To date, they shoot the most consistent with Rem. 115 gr SMK and Hornaday 110 gr OTMs. All other ammo tried are 1.0-1.25 MOA (Rem). I have not tested any Silver State in any loading. I have not had time to test any out to 500M. This is my real bench mark for a MR weapon system.

1/1/2007 8:21:42 PM EDT
[#49]
Here is an update picture of my MRP, pre-update can be found on page 13.
1/3/2007 12:55:14 PM EDT
[#50]
what length gas tubes do the mrp barrels use?

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