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9/23/2006 8:11:22 PM EDT
[#1]
I JUST REMOVED THE GAS BLOCK FROM AN 18" MRP BARREL TO PREPARE IT TO BE SHIPPED OFF TO COMPASS LAKE FOR A CHOP JOB.

AM I THE ONLY GUY IN THE WORLD WHO NEVER NOTICED THAT THE MRP BARREL GAS PORTS ARE DRILLED ON AN ANGLE ?!?

WES GRANT
M.S.T.N.
9/23/2006 11:14:20 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
I JUST REMOVED THE GAS BLOCK FROM AN 18" MRP BARREL TO PREPARE IT TO BE SHIPPED OFF TO COMPASS LAKE FOR A CHOP JOB.

AM I THE ONLY GUY IN THE WORLD WHO NEVER NOTICED THAT THE MRP BARREL GAS PORTS ARE DRILLED ON AN ANGLE ?!?

WES GRANT
M.S.T.N.


You might be one of the few who have pulled the gas blocks from an MRP barrel - maybe its a 6.8 thing...

Ty
9/23/2006 11:31:16 PM EDT
[#3]
I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE, SO IN ADDITION TO CHECKING 16" C/L AND 18" S/S 6.8 SPC BARRELS, I ALSO CHECKED IN 5.56MM:

10.5" C/L

14.5" C/L

16" C/L

16" S/S

18" S/S

THEY ALL HAVE ANGLED GAS PORTS.

WES GRANT
M.S.T.N.
9/24/2006 9:00:59 AM EDT
[#4]
Maybe next time you talk to LMT that would be a good question to ask!  Is the gas port on the gas block angled as well?  Maybe the angled port is why there is so much blow by/ leakage around the gas block on my two barrels...

Spooky
9/24/2006 10:27:51 AM EDT
[#5]
THE GAS BLOCKS ARE CONVENTIONAL IN DESIGN.

WES GRANT
M.S.T.N.
9/24/2006 11:04:21 AM EDT
[#6]
height=8
Quoted:
I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE, SO IN ADDITION TO CHECKING 16" C/L AND 18" S/S 6.8 SPC BARRELS, I ALSO CHECKED IN 5.56MM:

10.5" C/L

14.5" C/L

16" C/L

16" S/S

18" S/S

THEY ALL HAVE ANGLED GAS PORTS.

WES GRANT
M.S.T.N.




Were the C/L barrels park'ed under the gas blocks?

obviously these uppers have been running fine with the angled ports, but I would love to know the reasoning behind the angled ports as well as any negatives an/or benefits.
9/24/2006 11:09:09 AM EDT
[#7]


THE CHROME MOLY BARRELS ARE NOT PHOSPHATED UNDER THE GAS BLOCKS.

I SUSPECT IT MIGHT BE A TECHNIQUE TO MINIMIZE GAS PORT EROSION.

WES GRANT
M.S.T.N.
9/24/2006 9:14:43 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I AM GOING TO LOOK INTO HAVING SOME OF THE S/S 18" 6.8 SPC MRP BARRELS CHOPPED TO 16" AND MAYBE EVEN 12". AFTER ALL, THE 6.8 SPC BARRELS IN 16" AND 18" USE A CARBINE LENGTH GAS SYSTEM ALREADY. WE'LL JUST HAVE TO GO WITH A BIGGER GAS PORT SIZE.

WES GRANT
M.S.T.N.


WES, I would be very interested sometime in the future in a 12" 6.8 barrel.
Do you think the angled gas port will pose any problem in respect to changing gas port size?
9/24/2006 11:08:06 PM EDT
[#9]
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT.

WES
9/24/2006 11:32:41 PM EDT
[#10]
That was probably their little trade secret




eta: I am also hoping for a 12" 6.8 set-up
9/24/2006 11:49:27 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
That was probably their little trade secret.


It's been done before, and will be done again.
9/28/2006 1:07:50 PM EDT
[#12]
Edwin -

What kind of accuraccy are you getting out of that 10.5" MRP?
9/29/2006 1:54:32 PM EDT
[#13]
This question may have been asked and answered, but I have not found it in my reading.  Is the MRP assembly (upper and barrel) lighter or heavier than a normal railed uppper+barrel combo?
9/29/2006 2:10:36 PM EDT
[#14]
IT DEPENDS ON THE FOREND CHOSEN.

THE CQB MRP IS THE SAME LENGTH AS A BASIC RECEIVER AND 9" FOREND. IT WEIGHS 23 OUNCES.

A TYPICAL FORGED RECEIVER WEIGHS 8.6 OUNCES. ADD THE FOREND WEIGHT OF YOUR CHOICE TO GET YOUR ANSWER.

OF COURSE, A BARREL CHANGE WITH THE MRP IS A LITTLE FASTER ...

WES GRANT
M.S.T.N.
9/29/2006 8:26:34 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Edwin -

What kind of accuraccy are you getting out of that 10.5" MRP?


Well  I haven't really "benched" it for accuracy, but I'd say roughly 2.5 MOA at 100 yards with ADCO M855 using the Ranger Plate/magazine as a monopod with the 3X & Aimpoint.
Looking forward to trying some Mk262 & BH blue box 75 at the next trip which will be the primary ammo for the MRP SBR as it's a "house" gun.
Would really be nice if the Form 4 for the Specwar 2 would get here as this little rifle is LOUD AS HE DOUBLE TOOTHPICKS!

Dead solid reliable with WES's bolt setup, however.

Thanks MSTN!

Edwin
10/9/2006 2:45:29 AM EDT
[#16]
Joining the family, pics to come.

Thanks Wes!
10/10/2006 2:50:15 AM EDT
[#17]




Slightly better/differents pics to whore.
John
10/10/2006 1:02:33 PM EDT
[#18]
Very nice John!
10/10/2006 4:02:54 PM EDT
[#19]
Need more rain drops on the rifle

10/10/2006 8:49:57 PM EDT
[#20]
10/10/2006 9:09:14 PM EDT
[#21]
lol I was gonna say, Chen yer missing the lens caps on yer PEQ2-A too?  Took me a while to realize it's mine
10/13/2006 2:36:58 PM EDT
[#22]
Specwar 2 on a MSTN MRP.

10/13/2006 6:47:28 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Specwar 2 on a MSTN MRP.

www.pbase.com/edwin907/image/68496127/original.jpg


Can I request the same picture without the can?

Thanks,
Spooky
10/13/2006 7:02:35 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Specwar 2 on a MSTN MRP.

www.pbase.com/edwin907/image/68496127/original.jpg


Can I request the same picture without the can?

Thanks,
Spooky


Spooky, this is the closest thing I have to it, before I settled on a preferred Aimpoint position, the only other difference is the A1 bilock for the suppressor on it now and the ARMS 40L SP.

10/14/2006 10:45:23 AM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Specwar 2 on a MSTN MRP.

www.pbase.com/edwin907/image/68496127/original.jpg


Can I request the same picture without the can?

Thanks,
Spooky


Spooky, this is the closest thing I have to it, before I settled on a preferred Aimpoint position, the only other difference is the A1 bilock for the suppressor on it now and the ARMS 40L SP.

www.pbase.com/edwin907/image/67310697/original.jpg


Thanks!  I should have looked back a couple pages!  Another request - I have seen your rifle length MRP before...  How does the carbine length version with the SpecWar compare in length to the rifle length MRP?  I bet the two are fairly close in length...

Spooky
10/14/2006 11:12:14 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Another request - I have seen your rifle length MRP before...  How does the carbine length version with the SpecWar compare in length to the rifle length MRP?  I bet the two are fairly close in length...

Spooky


Spooky, the rifle length MRP with 16"SS barrel and a Vortex is about 1/2" longer than the 10.5"/Specwar 2.
The 10.5" with the Specwar 2 mounted and the VLTOR stock fully closed measures about 32.75" long, which means it fits very well in my little Winchester steel re-inforced nylon breakdown shotgun case.
10/15/2006 4:13:14 AM EDT
[#27]
Can you guys do me a favor? Here below is a drawing of the front projection of the LMT rail. Can anybody help me find out what is the A and B value is? Thanks!
10/15/2006 8:52:46 AM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
Can you guys do me a favor? Here below is a drawing of the front projection of the LMT rail. Can anybody help me find out what is the A and B value is? Thanks!

www.wforum.com/qbq/uploads/LMT_MRP_Project.jpg


By my old RCBS Dial:

A-2.21"
B-1.96"
10/15/2006 11:47:44 AM EDT
[#29]
Thanks!
10/15/2006 10:45:34 PM EDT
[#30]


THE MACHINING ON THE MRP'S IS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER.

WES GRANT
M.S.T.N.
10/26/2006 11:33:50 AM EDT
[#31]
SBR MRP NightFighter.

10/26/2006 2:46:08 PM EDT
[#32]
10/26/2006 7:50:16 PM EDT
[#33]
Scope is a Leupold VXII in an Armalite mount. Has the LR Duplex reticle - sighted at 100yds w/6.8 and using the LR mark (lower in the reticle) puts it pretty close at same distance w/5.56. No chance for longer shots with it yet...



10/26/2006 9:30:56 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
SBR MRP NightFighter.

www.pbase.com/edwin907/image/69203444/original.jpg


I think I'm starting to dislike you...  You have all the coolest toys!

Spooky
10/27/2006 3:35:53 PM EDT
[#35]
Yeah, him and mfingar are my shit list
11/2/2006 12:16:07 PM EDT
[#36]
I'm having trouble locating a reasonably-priced torque wrench calibrated in inch-pounds. Can I use a torque wrench calibrated in foot-pounds and multiply the figure by 12? In other words, does 10 ft-lbs equal 120 inch-lbs?
11/2/2006 12:24:31 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
I'm having trouble locating a reasonably-priced torque wrench calibrated in inch-pounds. Can I use a torque wrench calibrated in foot-pounds and multiply the figure by 12? In other words, does 10 ft-lbs equal 120 inch-lbs?


Welcome!

You can order one of the torque wrenches pre-set to 120in. lbs. directly from LMT for $28.00. These are the same wrenches that LMT is including with every new MRP kit.
11/2/2006 1:13:41 PM EDT
[#38]
Unfortunately, they didn't include one with my MRP or the 6.8 barrel & bolt I bought separately. I wrote and asked for it, but all they sent was a torx allen wrench. I'll get it sorted out with them eventually I'm sure, but in the meantime I want to shoot the 6.8 barrel, and I already have a torque wrench calibrated in foot-pounds, so can I just use that?
11/2/2006 1:22:45 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
Unfortunately, they didn't include one with my MRP or the 6.8 barrel & bolt I bought separately. I wrote and asked for it, but all they sent was a torx allen wrench. I'll get it sorted out with them eventually I'm sure, but in the meantime I want to shoot the 6.8 barrel, and I already have a torque wrench calibrated in foot-pounds, so can I just use that?


I would not use a foot lb. calibrated torque wrench. Try calling LMT directly instead of using email. They are usually pretty helpful over the phone. A torque wrench should have come with your barrel. Did you order your barrel from LMT directly, or from a dealer or used?

LMT phone #1-309-787-7151
11/2/2006 4:24:12 PM EDT
[#40]
I bought an MRP upper, an extra barrel, bolt carrier group and charging handle direct from LMT and I didn't get a torque wrench with mine.
11/2/2006 4:37:51 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
I bought an MRP upper, an extra barrel, bolt carrier group and charging handle direct from LMT and I didn't get a torque wrench with mine.


I may be mis-informed on the torque wrenches. I might be confusing some special deal they had from the Shot Show (Shot Show Special). I got my MRP a couple of years ago, so I didnt get any tools with mine. I called and ordered the wrench from LMT.

Here is the instructions for removing/re-installing the MRP's barrels. *Notice the second to the last installation point ">Using the pre-set torque wrench which will be supplied with any spare barrel, tighten front bolt (#1) to 140inch lbs."

11/2/2006 4:39:10 PM EDT
[#42]
If you look on LMT's website it says a torque wrench comes with all MRP sets.
11/2/2006 5:24:28 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
If you look on LMT's website it says a torque wrench comes with all MRP sets.


I wonder when they started doing this?  I got my setup back this past June I think?
11/2/2006 5:38:03 PM EDT
[#44]
I was thinking about going with the MRP set that comes with one upper and everything needed for 5.56/223 and the 6.8SPC. My question is........how will the zero be when changing barrel from one caliber to the other? Will it be off enough to have to resight when swapping?
11/2/2006 9:44:31 PM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:
I was thinking about going with the MRP set that comes with one upper and everything needed for 5.56/223 and the 6.8SPC. My question is........how will the zero be when changing barrel from one caliber to the other? Will it be off enough to have to resight when swapping?


I DID FOUR CONSECUTIVE BARREL R&R'S WITH OUR FIRST LMT MRP, THE FIRST ONE IN 5.56MM RELEASED COMMERCIALLY, I DO BELIEVE, BACK IN '03. A FIVE SHOT GROUP AT 100 YARDS WAS SHOT AFTER EACH.

ALL FOUR GROUPS WERE CENTERED WELL WITHIN A HALF MOA OF EACH OTHER. SINCE WE WERE USING TWO DIFFERENT SHOOTERS, EACH SHOOTING TWO GROUPS THAT WOULD ACCOUNT FOR SOME OF THAT. ALL FOUR GROUPS AVERAGED 0.83" AT 100 YARDS, TOO.

IT WAS THE WORST SHOOTING STAINLESS MRP BARREL I HAVE EVER SHOT ....

IN SHORT, THE RETURN TO ZERO PROPERTIES ARE PRETTY AMAZING.



WES GRANT
M.S.T.N.
11/6/2006 2:54:12 AM EDT
[#46]

11/8/2006 11:03:25 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={AC1852A4-478E-4176-A0A6-7D660450137A}&exp=f&moddt=38997.9780343056&ssdyn=1

Slightly better/differents pics to whore.
John


Tech tidbit:
This being a mid-legnth sytem, I was having short stroking problems with a SS109 ammo through this rifle, and other less powerful loads since cutting to 13.7 and KX3. I opened up the gas port to .093 (#42 bit IIRC) with my drill press. No problems whatsoever cycling anything, and it still runs smooth as butter. One would probably be smarter to go with a carbine legnth gas system on the 14.5in barrel if they are thinking of a a 13.7 + KX3 combo.
11/17/2006 11:21:26 PM EDT
[#48]
Here's the little 10.5" MRP in the new i-SHOT case.

11/18/2006 9:45:17 AM EDT
[#49]
NEW MRP TRIVIA FROM MSTN:

THE 12" CHROME LINED AND 16" STAINLESS 6.8 SPC BARRELS ARE RUNNING GREAT.

I ATTENDED AN E.A.G. CLASS INSTRUCTED BY PAT ROGERS AT THE MEMPHIS, TN., POLICE RANGE THIS PAST WEEKEND.  A GOOD TIME WAS HAD BY ALL, BTW. OTHER THAN WHEN I WAS SHOOTING MY 7.5" UPPER, I USED EITHER MY CQB OR RIFLE LENGTH MRP.

WHY? 50 YARDS AND IN, WHY USE ANYTHING BUT CHROME LINED? WHO MAKES WHAT IS ARGUABLY THE MOST RIGID CHASSIS AND THE BEST CHROME LINED BARREL AVAILABLE THAT IS THE EASIEST TO SWITCH OUT WHEN YOU DO FINALLY WEAR IT OUT?

THE CHOICE OF THE MRP IS A NO-BRAINER FOR ME.

WES GRANT
M.S.T.N.
11/18/2006 9:48:30 AM EDT
[#50]
That's cool, there is a 12" barrel for the MRP?  Do they make a 12" 5.56 too?

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