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2/3/2010 2:58:26 AM EDT
Shooters,

I would like to remind everyone that the third Central Florida Defensive Carbine shoot will be held on the 21st of February at the Volusia County Gun and Hunt Club.

This is a fun shoot with a competitive element. The best way to describe it is IDPA with rifles.

Registration is at 08:00, safety briefing is at 08:45, and shooting starts around 09:00.

Cost is $10 for VCG&HC members, $15 for non-members. You only need an AR-15 style rifle, about 200 rounds of ammo, hearing protection (electronic preferred), three magazines, and a good attitude. We would like you to have a Boonie Packer Chamber Flag for every rifle you bring but if you can't get any by the 21st, we have a few extras. Don't sweat it.

I am still looking for volunteer ROs.  If you are interested, please email me at ayan AT ayan DOT net.  One of the perks of ROing is free admission!

I'll begin setting up the stages at 15:00 the day before.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

If you would like to be notified when shoots are scheduled, join the CFDCC Announcement List.
If you would like to discuss the CFDCC, join the CFDCC Discussion List.

-ayan
2/3/2010 4:55:35 PM EDT
[#1]
If I drive my butt an hour over there to help setup, can I also run a few rounds through my AR to verify my zero after we're done? Or is that a question for Sean..
2/3/2010 6:05:26 PM EDT
[#2]
I'll be there, I live in clearwater so driving out the day before would be a pain in the ass.

I will show up early though, i'll be ready to help with anything you guys need.
2/4/2010 4:22:40 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
If I drive my butt an hour over there to help setup, can I also run a few rounds through my AR to verify my zero after we're done? Or is that a question for Sean..


Sure you can.  We usually have a little fun when we set up anyway.  This is a great time to see what your muzzle brake does at night!

Still –– if you are an hour and a half away, I don't recommend coming.  I appreciate the help but it doesn't make sense.

I am considering scheduling the shoot a little later in the day and doing all of the set-up on Sunday.  This way, everyone can help out –– even the people who drive a long distance.
2/4/2010 4:23:10 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
I'll be there, I live in clearwater so driving out the day before would be a pain in the ass.

I will show up early though, i'll be ready to help with anything you guys need.


Excellent!  Thanks for the help.
2/4/2010 8:40:53 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
If I drive my butt an hour over there to help setup, can I also run a few rounds through my AR to verify my zero after we're done? Or is that a question for Sean..


Sure you can.  We usually have a little fun when we set up anyway.  This is a great time to see what your muzzle brake does at night!

Still –– if you are an hour and a half away, I don't recommend coming.  I appreciate the help but it doesn't make sense.

I am considering scheduling the shoot a little later in the day and doing all of the set-up on Sunday.  This way, everyone can help out –– even the people who drive a long distance.


AND we wont have to wake up at 6AM on a Sunday

I usually drive 30 minutes to Shoot Straight in Lake Mark to zero anyway, PLUS paying to shoot; so driving another 25 minutes and saving some cash wouldnt be too bad...
2/4/2010 6:38:15 PM EDT
[#6]
Hello,

I was wondering if new members would be able to participate.  I've been lurking here some time and this thread was brought to my attention actualy on another forum.  Im glad to see events like this going on more frequently in florida.  Im from South Florida myself, and finding a half decent rifle shoot is, well, challenging.

At any rate, I thought I'd make myself known officialy.  Glad to be on here.
2/5/2010 6:22:21 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Hello,

I was wondering if new members would be able to participate.  I've been lurking here some time and this thread was brought to my attention actualy on another forum.  Im glad to see events like this going on more frequently in florida.  Im from South Florida myself, and finding a half decent rifle shoot is, well, challenging.

At any rate, I thought I'd make myself known officialy.  Glad to be on here.


This will be the third event... so I would say we're all 'new members'. :)
2/5/2010 9:41:44 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
I was wondering if new members would be able to participate.


I'm not sure what you mean by "new members".  I'll try to address three possibilities.  If I don't answer your question, please let me know.

If you are asking if the shoot is open to new ar15.com members, the answer is: absolutely!  We're not affiliated with ar15.com other than that it happens to be a good place to talk about the shoot.

If you are asking if the shoot is open to new CFDCC members, then awew911 summed it up pretty well.  At the moment, we are only loosely a club and members are those who come to the shoots. :)

If you mean "new members" as in members who are new to shooting, then the answer is yes with reservations.  Our primary goals are to be safe and have fun –– in that order.  Obviously, I'd prefer if you had a solid understanding of how to safely operate your firearms.  If you don't feel comfortable with this, you might want to spectate first to see what you're getting yourself into.  Ideally, you will have had some kind of training with your rifle and participated in some kind of shooting sport like IDPA or 3-gun.

I hope one of those is the answer to your question!

-ayan
2/5/2010 1:01:36 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I was wondering if new members would be able to participate.


I'm not sure what you mean by "new members".  I'll try to address three possibilities.  If I don't answer your question, please let me know.

If you are asking if the shoot is open to new ar15.com members, the answer is: absolutely!  We're not affiliated with ar15.com other than that it happens to be a good place to talk about the shoot.

If you are asking if the shoot is open to new CFDCC members, then awew911 summed it up pretty well.  At the moment, we are only loosely a club and members are those who come to the shoots. :)

If you mean "new members" as in members who are new to shooting, then the answer is yes with reservations.  Our primary goals are to be safe and have fun –– in that order.  Obviously, I'd prefer if you had a solid understanding of how to safely operate your firearms.  If you don't feel comfortable with this, you might want to spectate first to see what you're getting yourself into.  Ideally, you will have had some kind of training with your rifle and participated in some kind of shooting sport like IDPA or 3-gun.

I hope one of those is the answer to your question!

-ayan


That answered my questions quite well, thank you.  I mostly meant the first one.  I have been shooting for some time and am familiar and comofortable with firearms (and all saftey aspects), but it would be my first group sized "competition style" carbine shoot.

Im not 100% if I would be able make it yet.  Im a bit of a drive of a way down in Palm Beach County.  I just wanted to introduce myself really, say hello to the other Florida members and at the very least say thanks for getting these together.

2/5/2010 1:06:17 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Im not 100% if I would be able make it yet.  Im a bit of a drive of a way down in Palm Beach County.  I just wanted to introduce myself really, say hello to the other Florida members and at the very least say thanks for getting these together.


FYI, the South Florida Defensive Carbine Club meets in your neck of the woods.  That is one of the Florida clubs (along with the FDCC up near Jacksonville) that the CFDCC is based on.

2/5/2010 1:41:06 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Im not 100% if I would be able make it yet.  Im a bit of a drive of a way down in Palm Beach County.  I just wanted to introduce myself really, say hello to the other Florida members and at the very least say thanks for getting these together.


FYI, the South Florida Defensive Carbine Club meets in your neck of the woods.  That is one of the Florida clubs (along with the FDCC up near Jacksonville) that the CFDCC is based on.



Oh wow, THANKS!! Im suprised I hadnt heard of them yet, though I guess I dont get out as much any more
2/5/2010 8:20:00 PM EDT
[#12]
hey!  if an afternoon shoot is offered, I'm in!
2/5/2010 10:34:42 PM EDT
[#13]
Are select fire weapons allowed?
2/6/2010 7:59:14 AM EDT
[#14]
Reminder:  If any of you guys want to RO, I'm having an RO meeting tomorrow morning at 10:00AM.

We'll go over rules, range commands, safety, and maybe send a few rounds down range.

One of the perks of being an RO is that you shoot for free at the match!

Email me if you can make it:  ayan AT ayan DOT net.
2/6/2010 8:11:10 AM EDT
[#15]
I forgot to ask: Are AK's allowed?  My AR is "down" (as in, I havent finished building it yet!)
2/6/2010 8:13:59 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
I forgot to ask: Are AK's allowed?  My AR is "down" (as in, I havent finished building it yet!)


Absolutely.

2/9/2010 5:11:08 PM EDT
[#17]
For those of you who are not on the announcement mailing list, here is an update I posted today:

––––-

Shooters,

Here are a few things I'd like to discuss about upcoming shoots:

CHAMBER FLAGS

Chamber flags are now *required*. Come on, you knew it was coming! I strongly prefer the Boonie Packer "Chamber Checker".  You can get them by following the link below:

   http://www.redi-mag.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=8

They'll also be available for sale at the range at a very reasonable price.

REQUEST FOR SET-UP HELP

We set up stages on Saturday at 15:00.  We try to have all of the wall segments, doors, barrels, target stands, &c positioned so we only have to staple targets the next morning.  Any help will be appreciated.  The more people, the better.  If you will be able to come on Saturday, pleases let me know.

Likewise, any help setting up the morning of the shoot would be appreciated as well.

RULES

To settle any questions about rules, know that we are using IDPA rules for safety, scoring, and procedures almost exactly.  This includes penalties like FTN, FTDR, HNT, procedural, &c.  I am working on an official CFDCC Rule Book but until then, participants should read the relevant sections of the IDPA Rule Book.  The sections that apply are:

    * Safety Rules (pg 6)
    * Competition Rules (pg 8)
    * Penalties (pg 14)
    * Approved IDPA Reloads (pg 41)
    * Scoring (pg 44)

The IDPA Rule Book is at the following link:

    http://www.idpa.com/Documents/IDPARuleBook2005.pdf

Obviously, none of the equipment rules apply.  We do not have any classes or divisions.  This leads me to the next topic:

ALLOWED RIFLES AND MODIFICATIONS

Any semi-automatic rifle chambered in an intermediate center-fire cartridge will do.  By intermediate, I mean anything smaller than or equal to 7.62x39.  This includes center-fire pistol caliber rifles.

Any modifications are okay as long as they are legal (by law) and do not raise a safety issue.  This includes compensators, suppressors, any kind and any number of aiming devices including pointers, magnified optics, red-dot sights, &c.

All properly registered NFA items are allowed including SBRs, suppressors, and full auto.  Have your paperwork –– you never know when the ATF will pay a visit.

I would like to limit the amount of gamesmanship but at the distances we're shooting, I can't imagine any modifications that would allow a significant advantage.

CFDCC SAFETY OFFICERS/SQUAD LEADERS

Starting *now*, I would like to only have qualified squad leaders.  Only those SOs will be allowed to run a squad and we will only have as many squads as we have qualified SOs. (I hope that makes sense.)

If you would like to be an SO, please let me know.  One of the perks of being an SO is that you shoot for free!

The sooner we establish a group of good SOs, the sooner we will be able to add pistols to the stages.

FINALLY

Our next shoot is on Sunday, February 21st.  I hope to see you there!

-ayan
2/9/2010 5:49:48 PM EDT
[#18]
Good to see it all official like.  I'll try my best to be there Saturday before the shoot to help with setup.
2/14/2010 5:53:00 PM EDT
[#19]
Is anyone from South Florida going?  If so, what are your travel plans?  Im trying to think of the most time efficient way to get up there and was thinking of coming up Saturday night and finding either a cheap place to sleep or bunk in the back of the jeep in a wal-mart parking lot (hey, its free! ).

I'd offer to help set up, but wouldnt be coming in till late saturday, but if yall need a hand sunday morning before or post registration I'd be happy to help set up/pain targets, etc.
2/18/2010 6:54:38 AM EDT
[#20]
Just a reminder that I really need help setting up for the next shoot.

So far, no one has committed to coming on Saturday.

I need at least four other people to help out.  If you can be at the Volusia County Gun & Hunt Club at 15:00 this Saturday, please let me know.
2/18/2010 8:16:13 AM EDT
[#21]
I was gonna come but the GF will be in town and theres no way I can spend SAT AND SUN doing gun stuff or I'll never hear the end of it
2/18/2010 9:11:53 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
I was gonna come but the GF will be in town and theres no way I can spend SAT AND SUN doing gun stuff or I'll never hear the end of it


I'm not sure of the purpose of that reply.  Being there in spirit does not move wall segments.  Moral support does set up target stands.

I still need at least four people to help out on Saturday.
2/18/2010 9:56:03 AM EDT
[#23]
How late are you gonna be out there.  I don't get off work until 7 pm. I could be down there around 8pm.
2/18/2010 10:23:36 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
How late are you gonna be out there.  I don't get off work until 7 pm. I could be down there around 8pm.


We have to be finished by sunset which is at 18:17 this Saturday.  I hope to be done well before then.

I appreciate the gesture but if you are at work, you are at work. :)
2/18/2010 11:37:34 AM EDT
[#25]
I'm going to talk to my cousin and see if we can make it out there. We live all the way out in Apopka but if it keeps this club going will do what we can. I will know tonight what's up with our schedule!
2/18/2010 1:33:03 PM EDT
[#26]
I am coming to help with setup on Saturday.  

If we end up staying after dark I have a really good halogen work light.  I can bring a 12 volt battery and power inverter for it, but if anyone has a generator that would work even better.
2/18/2010 3:50:05 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
I am coming to help with setup on Saturday.  

If we end up staying after dark I have a really good halogen work light.  I can bring a 12 volt battery and power inverter for it, but if anyone has a generator that would work even better.


Thanks man.  I'm positive we wont need the lights though. :)
2/18/2010 4:59:40 PM EDT
[#28]
I'm going to drive down from Jax on Saturday to help setup.

These events are being organized on a voluntary basis... The more people help setup and break down the event, the more likely it is to continue.

Let's do it!!!
2/19/2010 6:09:32 AM EDT
[#29]
First post

Can people come and spectate?  AR will be coming in Monday so won't be able to participate but would like to see what is entailed in the event so that I can make it out to the next one.

Hopefully I'll have enough range time and practice before I head out there for the next one.

Looking forward to becoming an active member of the florida AR15.com community
2/19/2010 7:10:00 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Can people come and spectate?  AR will be coming in Monday so won't be able to participate but would like to see what is entailed in the event so that I can make it out to the next one.


Absolutely!  Please come and spectate.  If you don't shoot, you don't have to pay the range fee but you'll still need eye and ear protection.

2/20/2010 1:53:43 AM EDT
[#31]
it's 5:50 here, and i'm on my way. See you guys out there.
2/20/2010 6:40:40 PM EDT
[#32]

Thanks for helping out guys!

If the range wasn't so busy, the 12:00 set-up crew would have had everything complete by 3:30 or so.

I really appreciate everyone who showed up!

Just FYI, three stages require magazines down-loaded to 10 rounds.  One stage requires two magazines down loaded to 10 rounds.

If Sunday is anything like today, the weather is going to be beautiful.  It will be a good day to shoot! I hope you guys have a good time at the match tomorrow.
2/21/2010 11:50:01 AM EDT
[#33]
Another great shoot! Today was a lot of fun and the weather was awesome! Thanks guys.
2/21/2010 12:26:06 PM EDT
[#34]
Second post after the shoot.

Pics will be up in a bit.
2/21/2010 1:36:40 PM EDT
[#35]
Sorry i couldnt make it out this time.  I really tried and was about to leave when my 2 year old came down with a wicked fever and decided it was best to stay home with her.

Maybe next month
2/21/2010 1:53:00 PM EDT
[#36]
Hey guys. Stopped by for a bit at around 1:30pm. Asian guy with spikey hair, that's me. Wanted to come earlier to check out the whole thing but still recovering from a bachelor party last night.  At least now I know what I'll need and somehow how it works.

I will definately be there next time with AR ready to go!
2/21/2010 1:57:43 PM EDT
[#37]
ruertar: let me know when you need help setting up for the next event. I'm only about 25 min away.
2/21/2010 2:16:16 PM EDT
[#38]
Another great shoot for sure. Thanks again Ayan and Wade for great courses.
Are the scores up yet?                                                                                
2/21/2010 2:33:12 PM EDT
[#39]
Great shoot today!  That was fun!

Here are some pics from today..

If you were in Squad #2, PM me your email address and name and I'll get you a link to your pics.  If you post any of your pics online, please be sure to not post any with other shooters in them (I have this shooters permission).

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4376501789_3a3c7b5965_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2749/4377249500_2b7fcd6a28_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2771/4376502381_513b7cc01a_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/4377250134_93ecd98920_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/4376502617_b3dba428ce_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/4376502709_1fa879150c_o.jpg

Thanks to everyone that helped setup and break it down!
2/21/2010 3:40:13 PM EDT
[#40]
Another great shoot! Already looking forward to next month.
2/21/2010 4:05:10 PM EDT
[#41]
Sorry no funny commentary this time.  I am just exhausted after way to many nights with no sleep.



























































That is it for pictures.  Now you guys have to wait for me to figure out how to FTP all the videos over to Ayan so he can host it on youtube and then they can be embedded here.
2/21/2010 4:09:29 PM EDT
[#42]
I CANT BELIEVE I missed this one Sorry guys, I know you missed me

Went to CityWalk last night to meet with old friends and I didnt think coming with a hangover was a good idea. Hangover + handing firearms = not good.
2/21/2010 4:17:57 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
I CANT BELIEVE I missed this one Sorry guys, I know you missed me

Went to CityWalk last night to meet with old friends and I didnt think coming with a hangover was a good idea. Hangover + handing firearms = not good.


WE will think of a suitable penance at the next one.  Something embarassing, but not painful.  Well not to painful at any rate.
2/21/2010 4:21:24 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I CANT BELIEVE I missed this one Sorry guys, I know you missed me

Went to CityWalk last night to meet with old friends and I didnt think coming with a hangover was a good idea. Hangover + handing firearms = not good.


WE will think of a suitable penance at the next one.  Something embarassing, but not painful.  Well not to painful at any rate.


As bad as the personal points I took off for throwing the blue smoke grenade about 10ft like a girl at last months shoot?
2/21/2010 4:22:19 PM EDT
[#45]
Still have some scoring questions from squad 6. We were told by different SO's that a target with only one hit is still a failure to neutralize. IDPA rule book says differently (this penalty applies to any target that does not have at least one four zone (minus 1) or higher value hit). Can someone explain?

Also, we had a inquisitive discussion about dropping a mag with ammo in it not being a penalty if it was due to a malfunction. IDPA rule book states in appendix two that there is a exception for malfunction clearing.

Great shoot, great COF's, Great SO (I'd love to squad up with Scott again)
2/21/2010 4:29:22 PM EDT
[#46]
Are the scores up yet?                                                                                


IM Chuck, and ask him that question.

Inside joke from FDCC that Alan is making a CFDCC inside joke
2/21/2010 4:34:08 PM EDT
[#47]
Anyone know the scripts to embed video?  Or is that something I need a team membership for?
2/21/2010 4:43:44 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
I CANT BELIEVE I missed this one Sorry guys, I know you missed me


Yes, you were missed!
2/21/2010 7:25:43 PM EDT
[#49]
Looks like everything went smoothly... Glad to hear it.
2/21/2010 8:19:20 PM EDT
[#50]
I got 19 videos uploaded to youtube.  Here is a link to the first one and you can find the rest on the right hand side under:  "More From Aikibiker1"

If anyone knows how to embed these into the thread please go ahead and do it.

CFDCC FEB 001

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