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11/12/2008 4:58:14 AM EDT
Who has used Wolf Primers for small rifle and large pistol and what is your assesment as to how they perform against the named brands.
11/12/2008 6:37:21 AM EDT
[#1]
I have used about 1k of the large pistol in 45 acp. Had one primer with a good strike not fire. The small rifle mag ones I just started using so only about 200 fired but they seem fine. David Tubb endorses them for HP shooting if I am not mistaken.
11/12/2008 8:35:39 AM EDT
[#2]
Guy named "David Tubb" seems to know a thing or two about these new Wolf/PMC primers.  

He bought a couple pallets of them - and that is out of every possible brand he could buy.

Who is this guy Tubb? Full-auto addict?

No, he's strictly an accuracy freak.  Pure target shooter.  If the primers were not the MOST accurate ones, then why would he buy them?

Wolf makes the best rifle primers for reloading out there - bar none.

You can learn from the experts. Or you can expirament on your own and see what conclusion you reach.  I know which path I will follow.
11/12/2008 8:38:21 AM EDT
[#3]
This exact same topic came up about a month ago. Here is my take,  I've shot about 2k of the SR primers through my AR with zero problems.  Also gone through about 500 SP primers, again zero problems.  By all accounts these are great primers at a great price, end of discussion.
11/12/2008 10:29:51 AM EDT
[#4]
I have used Wolf SRM primers in 223 before the Wolf 223 primers became available.

They work great.

When I switched from Win SR primers to Wolf SRM primers in 223, I worked up my standard loads.

A 55 gr FMJBT, 62 gr FMJBT, and a match load with a Hornaday 68 gr HPBT.

After testing, I ended up with no change in my charge weight, and the 68 gr load was just a little more accurate.

I have loaded up loads with the Wolf 223 primer, going out today to try them.

Just got in some Wolf LR and LP primers, will try those soon.

My advice, get them while you can, I plan on buying more.
11/12/2008 12:09:09 PM EDT
[#5]
Tubb bought the RUSSIAN primers quite a few years ago,, the report from Bob Jones is that the wolf primers are not of the same accuracy,, he's the one Tubb bought them from.
'Borg
11/12/2008 1:47:48 PM EDT
[#6]
Just picked up 1k Wolf .223 primers and loaded 50 rounds using various headstamp cases.  
Had about 10 of the 50 seat high.  Primer pockets were clean.  Pulled several of the high primers, couldn't see any obvious reason for being high.  Measured the thickness of 10 randomly selected primers, averaged 0.117 same as 10 CCI 400's. Never had that happen with 15k CCI or Winchester primers.



11/12/2008 5:43:51 PM EDT
[#7]
Recently started using Wolf primers myself and they work great for .223, I use the standard small rifle primers not magnum.  They've all gone boom and accuracy was as good as with CCI and Winchester primers that I was using.
11/12/2008 10:37:46 PM EDT
[#8]
I've been using SRM primers for .223 since last year. They work well, I have never had a problem with them.

I've noticed that I get slightly better accuracy with CCI #41 primers. Not much, and it may be just my loads, YMMV.
11/12/2008 10:41:26 PM EDT
[#9]
I've gone though 1k of the Wolf SRM bullets.  I haven't run into a slam fire problem or a solid hit that didn't go.  Every hammer drop has resulted in a bang.

I haven't tried the 223 primers yet.  I don't know what they offer over SR and SRM.
11/13/2008 8:43:48 AM EDT
[#10]
If the primers are so good, then why can't wolf make/import ammo that is more accurate?

I'll be sticking with my CCI's, unless the wolf are like 1/2 price or something.
11/13/2008 10:25:28 AM EDT
[#11]
I just picked 2000 SM primers the other day for 18.00/1000.  I am hoping they do a great job.
11/13/2008 11:28:03 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
If the primers are so good, then why can't wolf make/import ammo that is more accurate?

Maybe they are just trying to be the cheapest ammo out there and cut costs on the powder.

So what do you want? Cheap ammo or cleaner ammo for more $$?


I'll be sticking with my CCI's, unless the wolf are like 1/2 price or something.


11/13/2008 10:28:32 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
If the primers are so good, then why can't wolf make/import ammo that is more accurate?

Maybe they are just trying to be the cheapest ammo out there and cut costs on the powder.

So what do you want? Cheap ammo or cleaner ammo for more $$?


I'll be sticking with my CCI's, unless the wolf are like 1/2 price or something.





Wolf primers are made by a totally different company from the Wolf ammo. Wolf primers are darn fine primers. The small rifle primers are extremely accurate as are the small rifle magnums for the highest pressure 5.56 loads. Never had a problem with them.

11/13/2008 11:23:55 PM EDT
[#14]
Still, the last time I priced them out, they were comparable to CCI's and other american made primers.  Again, unless they are 1/2 the price, I'll stick with CCI's.  I get MOA with CCI primed loads, at least out of my rifles that are MOA capable.

I see no reason to switch.
11/14/2008 12:05:20 AM EDT
[#15]
Update on the Wolf 223 primers.

Like the Wolf SRM primers, the "Wolf 223" primers shoot great.

11/14/2008 9:37:07 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Still, the last time I priced them out, they were comparable to CCI's and other american made primers.  Again, unless they are 1/2 the price, I'll stick with CCI's.  I get MOA with CCI primed loads, at least out of my rifles that are MOA capable.

I see no reason to switch.


From Wideners:

Rem 7 1/2 - $115/5K
Win WSR - $132.50/5K
CCI Magnum - $128/5K
CCI Military - $142/5K
Wolf Magnum - $87/5K

Many national-class HP shooters are using the Wolf's. They are 40-50% less. For me, loads have no noticable accuracy differences.

11/14/2008 10:37:39 AM EDT
[#17]
I don't think you can beat the price at $19 per k and $90 per 5k on Powder Valley.

I ordered 7k to try and compare to CCI 450s that I use now.
11/14/2008 1:56:28 PM EDT
[#18]
I hope they work well enough, I just orderd 10k of pistol and 10k of .223
11/14/2008 2:01:35 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
I hope they work well enough, I just orderd 10k of pistol and 10k of .223


Me too.  I probally won't be using my Wolf pistol primers for a long time until my other stuff is used up.  I'll let you know in a few years.  
11/14/2008 5:27:30 PM EDT
[#20]
I tried some Wolf LR for my precision rifle after using BR2s.  I did a side by side comparison and although my sample size was small, I noticed two things.  First the Wolf Primers increased my average velocity by about 20 fps.  Second, my SD was lower.  I haven't tried the SMRs yet, but I went ahead and bought a bunch.  YMMV
11/14/2008 6:18:06 PM EDT
[#21]
I've used a pile (several K's worth) of the SRM and the SP wolf primers, no issues yet.
11/14/2008 9:19:03 PM EDT
[#22]
I recently bought 12k and hope to put them to good use soon. Tubbs is why I got them.

Also, as a note, Wolf makes one of the BEST rim fire ammo for accuracy out there.
11/14/2008 9:22:12 PM EDT
[#23]
Excuse the noob question. Wasn't there something awhile back about Wolf primers being larger diameter? If you used them and then switch back to CCI later, the CCI primers would be too loose?

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