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Posted: 11/3/2008 4:16:21 PM EDT
I'm looking into the cost of reloading .223 and am seeing a lot of information on a lot of powders....I'm mainly doing it for the range and plinking. Who sells the cheapest powder for just "shooting around" 55-62 grain loads in an AR15?
Link Posted: 11/3/2008 5:45:59 PM EDT
[#1]
Cheap powder

Try WC844 surplus powder, it's cheap and works well for .223.
Link Posted: 11/3/2008 9:55:29 PM EDT
[#2]
Try Powder Valley for AA-2230 or Tac.
Link Posted: 11/4/2008 12:17:07 PM EDT
[#3]
Cool....can the same powder load my .308 and 7.62X39 loads for plinking?

Link Posted: 11/12/2008 8:58:20 PM EDT
[#4]
Try Ramshot TAC from powder valley.  Last time I ordered it, it was like $95/8#, which is the same cost as the surplus powder out there.  If new powder is the same cost as surplus, it's a no brainer to me to order the new.

You can use TAC for 308 but I'm not sure if you can use it for 7.62x39.  Tac works great for plinking and general use and it meters like water.
Link Posted: 11/13/2008 8:46:28 AM EDT
[#5]
I use H335 & AA2230 in 7.62x39 so I would consider TAC as well, just work up carefully.
Link Posted: 11/13/2008 9:55:57 AM EDT
[#6]
I missed out on the super TAC sale from Midway a ways back.  Even without the sale TAC is cheap compared to other powders and it seems members here get good results.  That said.  I'll stick with H335 cause it's what I have on hand but if I there is another big sale on TAC I'd jump all over that.
Link Posted: 11/13/2008 11:34:23 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Try Ramshot TAC from powder valley.  Last time I ordered it, it was like $95/8#, which is the same cost as the surplus powder out there.  If new powder is the same cost as surplus, it's a no brainer to me to order the new.

You can use TAC for 308 but I'm not sure if you can use it for 7.62x39.  Tac works great for plinking and general use and it meters like water.


I've been looking for load data for Tac in 7.62x39. For 123 gr and 147 gr bullets.

Nothing on Ramshot's site.

Anybody have a link?

Link Posted: 11/14/2008 11:10:23 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/18/2010 10:21:23 AM EDT
[#9]
An alternative to cheaper powder is to use less powder.

I'm running Reloader 7 with 55gr FMJBTs in .223 using charge weights in the high 20gr range.  That compares to my H335 load for the same bullet that's in the high 24gr range.  It cycles my 16" carbine-gas AR.

RL7 is a relatively fast powder, so it won't get you max velocity.  However, recoil is noticeably milder.  It also works well with lighter bullets.  I use RL7 in my 7.62x39 loads too.
Link Posted: 8/18/2010 12:05:51 PM EDT
[#10]
Interesting.
Link Posted: 8/18/2010 1:59:32 PM EDT
[#11]
Revived from 2008!?
Link Posted: 8/18/2010 9:21:49 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
An alternative to cheaper powder is to use less powder.

I'm running Reloader 7 with 55gr FMJBTs in .223 using charge weights in the high 20gr range.  That compares to my H335 load for the same bullet that's in the high 24gr range.  It cycles my 16" carbine-gas AR.

RL7 is a relatively fast powder, so it won't get you max velocity.  However, recoil is noticeably milder.  It also works well with lighter bullets.  I use RL7 in my 7.62x39 loads too.


+1 on less powder, I'm in the process of testing IMR4198, with wolf magnum primers and LC brass, I'm able to load 16.2gr and getting 2500fps. need to do some more shooting to determine accuracy.

Link Posted: 8/18/2010 9:23:29 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Revived from 2008!?



Right before the election none the less!

Link Posted: 8/18/2010 10:09:30 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Revived from 2008!?


Yup.  It's one of the "gateway" threads from the tacked link above.  It's just as relevant today as it was in 2008.  Just adding to the knowledge base.  
Link Posted: 8/18/2010 10:34:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/19/2010 12:11:42 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
An alternative to cheaper powder is to use less powder.

I'm running Reloader 7 with 55gr FMJBTs in .223 using charge weights in the high 20gr range.  That compares to my H335 load for the same bullet that's in the high 24gr range.  It cycles my 16" carbine-gas AR.

RL7 is a relatively fast powder, so it won't get you max velocity.  However, recoil is noticeably milder.  It also works well with lighter bullets.  I use RL7 in my 7.62x39 loads too.


+1 on less powder, I'm in the process of testing IMR4198, with wolf magnum primers and LC brass, I'm able to load 16.2gr and getting 2500fps. need to do some more shooting to determine accuracy.



I have one pound - let me know how it goes.  Your description above - what grain bullet - 55 grain?

Link Posted: 8/19/2010 12:16:31 AM EDT
[#17]
This is by far the 'cheapest' load I have seen (from the 1991 Hercules Reloaders Guide)............although I've never tried it.

Caliber: .223 Rem
Bullet: Hornady 55 gr FMJBT
Primer: Fed 205
Powder: Hercules (Alliant) 2400
Chg Wt: 14 gr.

FPS: 2,685

You could load 500 rounds from a pound of powder. That certainly makes it cheap!
Link Posted: 8/19/2010 12:33:03 AM EDT
[#18]
It ain't on the list anymore http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/Powder.aspx?powderid=9
Link Posted: 8/19/2010 12:43:51 AM EDT
[#19]
Hmm...that 2400 load looks interesting. Anybody have any thoughts about it?

jonblack
Link Posted: 8/19/2010 8:47:48 AM EDT
[#20]
Might be just the thing for all those people who've SBR'd their AR's. Fast burning enough to be completely consumed when being fired from a 10.5" (or shorter) barrel. None of this
Link Posted: 8/19/2010 12:39:51 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
I'm looking into the cost of reloading .223 and am seeing a lot of information on a lot of powders....I'm mainly doing it for the range and plinking. Who sells the cheapest powder for just "shooting around" 55-62 grain loads in an AR15?


for just "plinking" reduce your loads. i use 8 grains of unique and 40 grain bullets. accurate to at least 100 yards.
Link Posted: 8/19/2010 12:53:22 PM EDT
[#22]
Keep an eye on Midway, I got the TAC deal from them. It ended up as $15 a pound shipped which is $7 less than locally. I use 24.5 grains with Hornady bulk 55gr FMJ for an average of just under 3000fps for 20" barrel and 2850 for a 16". That load gets me 285 per pound.
Link Posted: 8/19/2010 2:42:18 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I'm looking into the cost of reloading .223 and am seeing a lot of information on a lot of powders....I'm mainly doing it for the range and plinking. Who sells the cheapest powder for just "shooting around" 55-62 grain loads in an AR15?


for just "plinking" reduce your loads. i use 8 grains of unique and 40 grain bullets. accurate to at least 100 yards.


Will this load cycle an AR????
Link Posted: 8/20/2010 12:10:14 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
An alternative to cheaper powder is to use less powder.

I'm running Reloader 7 with 55gr FMJBTs in .223 using charge weights in the high 20gr range.  That compares to my H335 load for the same bullet that's in the high 24gr range.  It cycles my 16" carbine-gas AR.

RL7 is a relatively fast powder, so it won't get you max velocity.  However, recoil is noticeably milder.  It also works well with lighter bullets.  I use RL7 in my 7.62x39 loads too.


+1 on less powder, I'm in the process of testing IMR4198, with wolf magnum primers and LC brass, I'm able to load 16.2gr and getting 2500fps. need to do some more shooting to determine accuracy.



Actually its 62gr, but load data is VERY similar for the 55gr.


I have one pound - let me know how it goes.  Your description above - what grain bullet - 55 grain?



Link Posted: 3/10/2017 10:31:48 AM EDT
[#25]
Same question 2017...
Link Posted: 3/10/2017 10:38:29 AM EDT
[#26]
AA1680, more bang per grain
Link Posted: 3/10/2017 11:36:08 AM EDT
[#27]
I like H322 for 55gr 223 loads.   It's very consistent over the chrono.
Link Posted: 3/10/2017 12:24:50 PM EDT
[#28]
I use ACC 2230 for my 55gr FMJ plinking loads. Works well in the accuracy department  as well.
Link Posted: 3/11/2017 7:21:54 AM EDT
[#29]
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Hmm...that 2400 load looks interesting. Anybody have any thoughts about it?

jonblack
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I won't function an at, I tried yrs ago, works good in a bolt action.
Link Posted: 3/11/2017 7:24:53 AM EDT
[#30]
AA 2015 is always a couple of bucks cheaper and it uses a couple of grains less powder, 22.5 vs 25-27 of the ball powder, and it measures well, very short stick powder.
Link Posted: 3/11/2017 9:45:04 AM EDT
[#31]
My notes for a RL-7 .223 load are:  21.5 grains under a Dogtown 55gr PSP bullet, Speer twice-fired brass, CCI#41 primer provided excellent accuracy and cycled the action 100%.

                                       AA2015:  24.5 grains under a Dogtown 50gr PSP bullet, Federal once-fired brass, Rem 71/2 primer cycled the action 100% but high winds spread 10 rounds horizontally.

                                        RL-10X:  22 grains under a Hornady 55grFMJ bulk bullet, Winchester 3rd fired brass, CCI#41 primer cycled 100% and gave excellent accuracy even in high winds.


19.5 grains of AA1680 under a bulk 55grFMJ is one of my all-time favorite plinking loads but reliability in ARs with smaller gas-holes is not 100% Found this gem tucked away in an old Lee pamphlet that came

with the .223 dies.
Link Posted: 3/11/2017 10:13:48 AM EDT
[#32]
An alternative to cheaper powder is to use less powder.    

IMR 4198 for the M16.  But IMR doesn't  like most power measures. Avoid maximum charges, unless each is hand weighed. 
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