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6/20/2010 7:19:57 PM EDT
Here she is in all her glory.  Got it done a couple weeks ago and have been swamped at work.

Done:
Draco SBR'd on Form 1
Ace folder in 8.5" (left the extra pad off it)
M16 muzzle break from Aim Surplus
Magpul MOE grip I modded to work
Midwest Industries Rail

Needs:
Sling
Light
Sight (eventually)

Shoots great, but shot it for function only so far.  Little low and left at 25yds but I'll straighten it out at the distance range.  Probably the most fun I've had with a gun project so far.  As stated before THE REAR TRUNION IS TOUGH!  Lube the tap and clean it often, 1/4 turns, slow and steady.  I broke a tap in there, but thanks to ACE's great design the attatchment point has slots so I redrilled a new hole.  I couldn't get the tap out so I ground it flat and no issues.  Suggestion, the Cryo treated drill bit from Home Depot (mainly white package I think) is worth the $4 it cost.  Thing cut through the trunion like a hot knife, I was doubting everyone saying it was tough in fact at that point.  Then it schooled me lol.  

Im really happy with the Ace folder.  Lockup is solid, the spring tension is great in the folded position so the thing does not easily open or flop.  The only thing I'd love to see is a mount on the stock itself maybe that would allow a QD swivel.  The rail itself is really nice, very solid and pretty easy to install.  The only negative I've found so far is that the rail seems a little oversized.  I could not get Larue index clips to snap.  I havent tried it with any others thus far though.  

Anyone have a good way to sling one of these bad boys?

Not the best pics, but I'll post some better ones when it's all done.










6/20/2010 7:21:43 PM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
Here she is in all her glory.  Got it done a couple weeks ago and have been swamped at work.

Done:
Draco SBR'd on Form 1
Ace folder in 8.5" (left the extra pad off it)
M16 muzzle break from Aim Surplus
Magpul MOE grip I modded to work
Midwest Industries Rail

Needs:
Sling
Light
Sight (eventually)

Shoots great, but shot it for function only so far.  Little low and left at 25yds but I'll straighten it out at the distance range.  Probably the most fun I've had with a gun project so far.  As stated before THE REAR TRUNION IS TOUGH!  Lube the tap and clean it often, 1/4 turns, slow and steady.  I broke a tap in there, but thanks to ACE's great design the attatchment point has slots so I redrilled a new hole.  I couldn't get the tap out so I ground it flat and no issues.  Suggestion, the Cryo treated drill bit from Home Depot is worth the $4 it cost.  Thing cut through the trunion like a hot knife, I was doubting everyone saying it was tough in fact at that point.  Then it schooled me lol.

Anyone have a good way to sling one of these bad boys?

Not the best pics, but I'll post some better ones when it's all done.

http://yfrog.com/7hfulldracoj
http://yfrog.com/msfoldedleftsidej
http://yfrog.com/6xgriprj
http://yfrog.com/1gfrontpbj


Am I the only one seeing red Xs?

ETA: Got the first one....nifty!

6/20/2010 7:24:19 PM EDT
[#2]
Yeah sorry, imageshack had a moment.  Had to reload them.  

Thanks!
6/20/2010 7:31:33 PM EDT
[#3]
Very nice!
6/21/2010 5:34:37 AM EDT
[#4]
I agree, very nice job.
6/21/2010 5:48:28 AM EDT
[#5]
Very very nice indeed.

And the Midwest Industries rail fore end is the only one that looks "right" on AK's IMO. It follows the lines of the original handguards and does not look out of place.

6/21/2010 9:15:29 AM EDT
[#6]
What size screws did you use to mount the folding mechanism to the trunnion?     Your SBR Looks good.

I did what you did to an MOE grip and hated the feel. It scrunches up your hand against the receiver.

You may like the $4.00 Ace AR grip adapter w/MOE-MIAD grip WAY better. Thats what I used the second time around. Also takes no fitting other than cutting off the top tail.
6/21/2010 10:11:36 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
What size screws did you use to mount the folding mechanism to the trunnion?     Your SBR Looks good.

I did what you did to an MOE grip and hated the feel. It scrunches up your hand against the receiver.

You may like the $4.00 Ace AR grip adapter w/MOE-MIAD grip WAY better. Thats what I used the second time around. Also takes no fitting other than cutting off the top tail.


The ones that came in the bag, I'll see if I can find the sheet and let ya know.  

The MOE seems to work pretty well for me, I havent had any issues so far.  I was kinda worried about the ACE extender after reading they crack easily.  If it becomes an issue I might try one though.
6/21/2010 10:13:16 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Very very nice indeed.

And the Midwest Industries rail fore end is the only one that looks "right" on AK's IMO. It follows the lines of the original handguards and does not look out of place.



yeah I agree, some of the others look either too small or too boxy.  MI did a great job and I really was suprised by how tight the lockup is.
6/21/2010 10:30:56 AM EDT
[#9]
I agree, Your setup blends well, everything is proportioned just right. You're gonna have alot of fun with this one.

My stamp came in saturday. 89 days door to door.
I ordered the Ace folding AR interface unit on sat evening.. I'm gonna run a CTR stock.

Should be done by friday. Hopefully it looks as good as yours.
6/21/2010 11:14:26 AM EDT
[#10]
That sounds cool, post pics when you get it done.  The SBR FAQ in the ak pistol section is kinda a sbr pic thread too.  I need to amend the title
6/21/2010 3:36:28 PM EDT
[#11]
Well executed.
6/21/2010 3:47:14 PM EDT
[#12]
nice job...I used a few of the same parts myself on mine....what a fun gun to shoot!
6/25/2010 5:20:29 PM EDT
[#13]
yeah cookie, I loved your thread and pics.  I appreciate the assistance with the pics, that really helped documenting everything and seeing what I needed to do.
8/10/2010 9:59:55 AM EDT
[#14]
How heavy, compared to a M4-gery?
8/11/2010 1:01:34 AM EDT
[#15]
Not sure, seems comparable.  I'll break out the fishing scale tomorrow and reply back for you.
8/14/2010 2:17:25 AM EDT
[#16]
Very nice. I'm starting to like the railed forearms more & more, didn't like them at first.
Just like AJ said the MI railed forearm doesn't look out of place on the Draco.
8/14/2010 7:16:58 AM EDT
[#17]
Is there any other way to get a stock on without machining?
8/14/2010 2:46:49 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Is there any other way to get a stock on without machining?


I wouldn't really consider drilling and tapping a couple of holes in the rear receiver plate, machining.
8/14/2010 6:10:17 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Is there any other way to get a stock on without machining?


I wouldn't really consider drilling and tapping a couple of holes in the rear receiver plate, machining.


It's not that bad. Worst part is the tapping and it's only a pain because you have to go so slow.
10/19/2010 8:06:41 AM EDT
[#20]
I have got to get my shit together & get one of these.
10/19/2010 3:48:35 PM EDT
[#21]
Sweet looking.  I am thinking about SBR ing my Century AKM Pistol.  I like your setup especially the Midwest Industry Rail.  My AKM pistol has the longer barrel/forearm/piston so hopefully Midwest or another Manuf. has a similar looking Forearm Rail.  I am also going with the side folding stock and a AR type break,  Phantom Comp Flash Suppressor.  If she can not be controlled with it, I will go back to the Slant break (only during shooting)!

I always say that if your rifle looks good, it gives you more confidence that translates into a better shot/group.

Again very nice!!!
10/19/2010 6:32:04 PM EDT
[#22]
Looks real nice!!

Can I ask does that rail rely upon the HG retainer to keep it in place?   It looks like the lever is not down?

Thanks
10/20/2010 9:32:48 PM EDT
[#23]
Looks good
Did you also use a cordless hand drill? How are you keeping the holes straight or is that not that important?
12/10/2010 9:10:57 PM EDT
[#24]
So what parts do you need for this? Is it just the Ace folding stock hinge bolted tot he back of the drilled receiver block?

Basically just this part bolted to the back: http://www.onesourcetactical.com/foldingstockhingeforacestocks.aspx

Plus an Ace stock?
1/24/2011 6:08:43 AM EDT
[#25]
What's the overall length with your 8.5" ACE stock?
1/24/2011 2:34:50 PM EDT
[#26]
Looks a lot like mine will, nice rifle!
2/7/2011 11:07:08 AM EDT
[#27]




Quoted:

What's the overall length with your 8.5" ACE stock?




This, I'm using the same stock and would like to know the OAL for my form1
3/29/2011 9:05:00 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:

Quoted:
What's the overall length with your 8.5" ACE stock?


This, I'm using the same stock and would like to know the OAL for my form1


This.  I'm really, really thinking about a SBR'd Draco.

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