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Posted: 11/14/2010 5:52:17 PM EDT
Manticore Arms has just unveiled their NightShroud flash hider for the AK74, and I was lucky enough to be in the first batch of guys to receive one.... http://www.manticorearms.com/NightShroud-Flash-Hider-for-AK-74-24mm-thread-MA-600.htm The premise is a lighter, shorter, and more effective flash hider for your AK74 and I think Manticore Arms has succeeded. Right out of the box, it's a thing of beauty. Made of heat treated 8620 steel, it has a nice even black oxide finish.... 
The machining is clean and crisp.... 
And it looks totally tits..... 
The NightShroud is 2.2” long, making it an inch shorter than it's competitors. Considering the 74 already has a 16” barrel, putting a 3 and half inch muzzle device on front of that has seemed sub-optimal to me.... The difference in length and bulk between the NightShroud and other AK74 muzzle devices are obvious in the below picture... (NightShroud, Krink “Bell,” Conventional 74 Muzzle Device, American made Bulgi M-1 Style, Bulgi Krink “Trash Can.”) 
If you've worked with 16” vs 14.5” AR's in CQB, you know it makes a difference..... Measure on my decidedly unscientific neurotic sister-in-law food weighing scale, the Manticore NightShroud weighs in at svelte 2.8 ounces. 
A Krink “Bell” muzzle device weighs 3.5 ounces. 
A conventional 74 muzzle device weighs in at 3.7 ounces. 
Bulgi M-1 Style Flash Suppressor.... 4.7 ounces. 
Bulgi Trash Can weighs in at a hefty 7.3 ounces.... 
The NightShroud mounted easily on my Bulgarian AK74. 
It looks great and reduces the overall length.... 
Ran into trouble mounting the NightShroud on my Bulgarian 7.62x39 Krink.... (Yup, you can use the NightShroud with 5.45 and 7.62 weapons.) The “collar” does not come back far enough to engage the front site base muzzle device detent..... 
This is a shame, because it looks damn good. And makes a handy weapon handier.... 
My understanding is that the NightShroud will work just fine with a Russian Krink and I will try that out as soon as I get back to the House... I will post an update to this thread as soon as I get to live fire with the NightShroud. I'm pretty excited to try it out. Right now I can say for sure it's a well made, great looking product, that's made in the USA. |
| Are there videos out there showing how effective it is compared to whats already available? Just curious. I'm not really interested in one... don't care for the look and realistically I have zero need for a flash suppressor so I tend to stick with muzzle brakes on my AKs. |
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<a href="http://img139.imageshack.us/i/nightshroudmanticore11.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3710/nightshroudmanticore11.jpg</a> Manticore Arms has just unveiled their NightShroud flash hider for the AK74, and I was lucky enough to be in the first batch of guys to receive one.... http://www.theakforum.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=142785 http://www.manticorearms.com/NightShroud-Flash-Hider-for-AK-74-24mm-thread-MA-600.htm The premise is a lighter, shorter, and more effective flash hider for your AK74 and I think Manticore Arms has succeeded. Right out of the box, it's a thing of beauty. Made of heat treated 8620 steel, it has a nice even black oxide finish.... <a href="http://img227.imageshack.us/i/nightshroudmanticore7.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6240/nightshroudmanticore7.jpg</a> The machining is clean and crisp.... (Yup - Made in the USA - 922r Suck It!) <a href="http://img337.imageshack.us/i/nightshroudmanticore6.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2013/nightshroudmanticore6.jpg</a> And it looks totally tits..... <a href="http://img138.imageshack.us/i/nightshroudmanticore5.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/562/nightshroudmanticore5.jpg</a> The NightShroud is 2.2” long, making it an inch shorter than it's competitors. Considering the 74 already has a 16” barrel, putting a 3 and half inch muzzle device on front of that has always seemed sub-optimal to me.... The difference in length and bulk between the NightShroud and other AK74 muzzle devices are obvious in the below picture... (NightShroud, American made Bulgi M-1 Style, Conventional 74 Muzzle Device, Bulgi Krink “Trash Can.”) <a href="http://img576.imageshack.us/i/nightshroudmanticore8.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/6510/nightshroudmanticore8.jpg</a> If you've worked with 16” vs 14.5” AR's in CQB, you know it makes a difference..... Measure on my decidedly unscientific neurotic sister-in-law food weighing scale, the Manticore NightShroud weighs in at svelte 2.8 ounces. <a href="http://img541.imageshack.us/i/nightshroudmanticore4.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/2212/nightshroudmanticore4.jpg</a> A conventional 74 muzzle device weighs in at 3.7 ounces. <a href="http://img714.imageshack.us/i/nightshroudmanticore1.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2517/nightshroudmanticore1.jpg</a> Bulgi M-1 Style Flash Suppressor.... 4.7 ounces. <a href="http://img241.imageshack.us/i/nightshroudmanticore2.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4342/nightshroudmanticore2.jpg</a> Bulgi Trash Can weighs in at a hefty 7.3 ounces.... <a href="http://img25.imageshack.us/i/nightshroudmanticore3.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2339/nightshroudmanticore3.jpg</a> The NightShroud mounted easily on my Bulgarian AK74. <a href="http://img259.imageshack.us/i/nightshroudmanticore13.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7140/nightshroudmanticore13.jpg</a> It looks great and reduces the overall length.... <a href="http://img594.imageshack.us/i/nightshroudmanticore9.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/876/nightshroudmanticore9.jpg</a> Ran into trouble mounting the NightShroud on my Bulgarian 7.62x39 Krink.... (Yup, you can use the NightShroud with 5.45 and 7.62 weapons.) The “collar” does not come back far enough to engage the front site base muzzle device detent..... <a href="http://img600.imageshack.us/i/nightshroudmanticore15.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5764/nightshroudmanticore15.jpg</a> This is a shame, because it looks damn good. And makes a handy weapon handier.... <a href="http://img714.imageshack.us/i/nightshroudmanticore14.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3720/nightshroudmanticore14.jpg</a> My understanding is that the NightShroud will work just fine with a Russian Krink and I will try that out as soon as I get back to the House... I will post an update to this thread as soon as I get to live fire with the NightShroud. I'm pretty excited to try it out. Right now I can say for sure it's a well made, great looking product, that's made in the USA. I'd like to hear how recoil compares to the '74 brake. I know the 5.45mm round is not a heavy recoiling round, but the '74 brake seems to make follow up shots even faster. |
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Are there videos out there showing how effective it is compared to whats already available? Just curious. I'm not really interested in one... don't care for the look and realistically I have zero need for a flash suppressor so I tend to stick with muzzle brakes on my AKs. AK74 Flash Hider Comparison Videos... |
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Doesn't look too bad. I like it for a Go-To AKth 24mm thread. But regarding your comment about it being a "more effective flash hider for your AK74" is a little off, as you are comparing a flash hider to a muzzle brake. I was under the impression that the "Conventional" Muzzle device on the 74 was a combo device.... as Russians hate getting shot too ;) |
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I'd like to hear how recoil compares to the '74 brake. I know the 5.45mm round is not a heavy recoiling round, but the '74 brake seems to make follow up shots even faster. Hope to get this muzzle device on a full auto 74 in the next few weeks, which should be a real test. I have found the conventional 74 muzzle device to be really effective at making the weapon more controllable on full auto.... |
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Doesn't look too bad. I like it for a Go-To AKth 24mm thread. But regarding your comment about it being a "more effective flash hider for your AK74" is a little off, as you are comparing a flash hider to a muzzle brake. I was under the impression that the "Conventional" Muzzle device on the 74 was a combo device.... as Russians hate getting shot too ;) If by 'combo' you mean the AK-74 muzzle brake reduces recoil and also creates a blinding flash at night you would be completely correct. 
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What other rifles will it not work on? Looks like the link you posted lists some of the SGL's it doesn't work on?
I just received my NightShroud Flash Hider, and it will not fully screw on to my SGL 31 or engage the plunger pin. The threaded area is too short. About 1/4 inch of the FSB threads are partially exposed.
Might want to wait until they get the corrected version out? |
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I am interested in how you plan on quantitatively comparing recoil impulse and the procedure for judging "better." - slow motion video? Eta:not trying to hate For flash I plan on using my Mark I eyeball. Which I believe will be a surprisingly meaningful test considering that is what the guys returning fire at you will probably be using. I will also use slow mo video. For recoil impulse: Recoil impulse is 'exaggerated" if you will on full auto weapons. My intent is to mount it on a full auto 74, and let rip a mag or two.... Groups will then be measured. |
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I was told availability will be in first quarter of 2011. Since there is a redesign I wonder if the slots will be changed to rotate the brake clockwise to tighten rather than loosen during firing. I prefer to keep my brakes tight with no play. I know the brake is also secured by a pin.
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I was told availability will be in first quarter of 2011. Since there is a redesign I wonder if the slots will be changed to rotate the brake clockwise to tighten rather than loosen during firing. I prefer to keep my brakes tight with no play. I know the brake is also secured by a pin. Yup,in addition to lengthening the threaded collar, the slot direction on the Mark II has been reversed for the very reason you mention. Those are the two design differences between the original NightShroud and the NightShroud Mark II |
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Yeah the payment thing sucks. Very douche move by Paypal...... <a href="http://img230.imageshack.us/i/manightshroud3.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2664/manightshroud3.jpg</a> <a href="http://img151.imageshack.us/i/manightshroud16.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9022/manightshroud16.jpg</a> <a href="http://img34.imageshack.us/i/manightshroud21.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4431/manightshroud21.jpg</a> Do you notice any perceivable difference in recoil between the flash hider and the stock '74 brake, or none at all? |
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