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6/6/2010 11:28:33 AM EDT
I recently set out to find *my* perfect folding rear BUIS.  I don't particularly care for many of the folding BUIS on the market because:

* Many are IMO overly complex for a BUIS
* Most have windage (and sometimes elevation) knobs that are too easy to inadvertently move
* Most are bulky
* Almost all have a clamp attachment that can cause canting

In my search I came across one that doesn't get much mention - the Hahn Precision rear BUIS:  http://www.hahn-precision.com/armory/products/buis_rear.htm



The Hahn met all my preferences and needs.  It's machined from a solid block of aluminum, has a simple steel aperture stalk, uses a standard A1 windage wheel and attaches to the rail differently than most BUIS.

The aperture does not lock up nor down.  Instead, Hahn has used what looks like a standard A1 or A2 flat aperture spring to cam the stalk into position; it snaps into either position with authority.  In addition, Hahn incorporated a steel crosspin as a stop for the stalk when it's elevated - no peening from this design.

The attachment method is different.  The base is milled to slide onto an in-spec rail; after it is in position, two nylon-tipped setscrews clamp the sight into position.  I had to oil the rail and gently tap the sight into position - mine was snug enough that even if the setscrews were both removed the sight wouldn't move much.

The sight is smooth without sharp protuberances to catch on gear.  IMO it's as close to bombproof as you can get in a folding sight.

Sometimes it's good to look beyond the flavor of the week - you might just find a superior product!

More pics (sorry about the oil splotches and dog hairs - the finish is uniform):








6/6/2010 11:35:39 AM EDT
[#1]
Interesting.  Do the two nylon screws go into a rail slot?
6/6/2010 11:53:45 AM EDT
[#2]
Yes.  They're steel setscrews with nylon no-mar tip inserts.
6/6/2010 11:58:00 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Yes.  They're steel setscrews with nylon no-mar tip inserts.


Mo betta!  Any idea how high off the rail it sits?
6/6/2010 12:07:53 PM EDT
[#4]
What do you mean?
6/6/2010 12:13:06 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
What do you mean?


Very interesting design BTW. Thanks for the review.

edited cause I guessed wrong .

6/6/2010 12:17:01 PM EDT
[#6]
Nope, what I mean is how tall is the tallestt point of the sight base....in reference to scope clearance.
6/6/2010 12:22:54 PM EDT
[#7]
Aha, I should have realized that's what you meant.  It's hard to measure with the calipers I have, but somewhere between 17mm and 18mm above the top of the rail to the top of the windage bump (see the pic from the rear).

Cost - $120 retail, a little less with .gov discount at Brownells.
6/6/2010 12:25:50 PM EDT
[#8]
18 mm = 0.708661".  Thanks.  Damn, I think that's lower than the Troy.

eta:  Hmmmmmm, Brownells shows .9" or 23mm.
6/6/2010 12:34:58 PM EDT
[#9]
Hmmm.  I wonder how I can measure more accurately?

Let me think about this...
6/6/2010 12:37:14 PM EDT
[#10]
OK, I laid a rule on edge across the top, eyeballed the level and measured again.  16.5mm-17mm from the top of the rail, so I think 18mm is safe.
6/6/2010 2:27:06 PM EDT
[#11]
How does a side clamp cause canting?

ARMS #40 sights are also slide on, I think it may be stronger since it does without a relatively small clamp, instead the entire surface on both sides are on the rail.
6/6/2010 3:54:19 PM EDT
[#12]
My experience is that a side clamp can definitely cause canting due to tolerance stacking.  It all depends on the design of the side clamp.
6/6/2010 4:41:19 PM EDT
[#13]
In our experience, the Matech's sight body is designed in a way that can't accommodate out of specs rails very well, resulting in the clamp being crooked when tightened, but the sight itself stays straight.  I have not seen this in other sights though.

The Hahn Precision sight looks nice
6/6/2010 4:45:52 PM EDT
[#14]
I may have been unlucky, then - I've had two different BUIS from two different major makers end up canted on two different uppers.  Call me gunshy.    I've seen canted BUIS here a few times, too.  

I just prefer the way Hahn attaches, personal preference.  It's all good.
6/6/2010 5:02:21 PM EDT
[#15]
I have more than a dozen rear BUIS, the only one that's canted is the GG&G, the clamp is messed up

I may have to pick up one of these for my next build, nice review
6/7/2010 9:11:13 AM EDT
[#16]
Very nice review. I was curious about these. Thank you.
6/7/2010 12:13:01 PM EDT
[#17]
Great review.  I've had me eye on these for awhile but haven't pulled the trigger.  Seems like a good, no-frills BUIS.  I especially like the idea of a single aperture that splits the difference between the LR and SR A2 apertures.
6/7/2010 12:35:54 PM EDT
[#18]
it looks like the cheap crappy rear BUIS from the FS2000.
6/7/2010 5:51:58 PM EDT
[#19]
A friend has an FS2000; I can assure you the rears have nothing in common.  This is sturdier than the KAC lollipop flip-ups I've handled, it's a little brick.
6/15/2010 3:02:11 PM EDT
[#20]
As I posted in the other thread, Its the best sight to use if you have a flip to the side magnifier for use with an Aimpoint or EOtech; no bulky knobs in the way to block charging handle access with the magnifier tipped to the side.
6/15/2010 6:19:54 PM EDT
[#21]
Other thread?

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