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2/18/2010 7:00:39 AM EDT
I'm trying to collect info on lots of Hornady ammuntion which may be affected by bad primers. Please post the type of ammo and the lot number if at all possible.



ALSO: Please post if you have RE-CHAMBERED these rounds during a range session before shooting them before experiencing primer problems.
DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD UNLESS YOU'RE REPORTING BAD PRIMERS.


 
2/18/2010 9:05:02 AM EDT
[#1]
I had 13 rounds fail to fire, out of 100 shot, because of primers in the 55gr Hornady Training rounds I bought recently from Ammunitiontogo.com.  The lot number was #3091957

I had similar issues with the 75gr Hornady Training rounds I bought from Scottsdale Gun Club, including the same failure to fire because of primers, and at least one popped primer.  The lot number was  #3090874

These rounds were brand new out of un-opened boxes, so no re-chambering.  And this rifle has had the following ammunition through it with zero malfunctions in the past;

PMC Bronze
Prvi, 62gr 223/M193/M855
Silver Bear 55gr/62gr
Hornady red box 55gr (no issues, will try to find the lot number)
Radway surplus
Federal M193 black box
BVAC 55gr reman
Wolf 62gr/75gr

And I'm sure a couple others I'm forgetting
2/18/2010 5:01:41 PM EDT
[#2]
Just bought a box of .38 +p Critical Defense and the first round was a DUD... After looking around wondering what to do and holding the weapon pointed down range for about a minute or so I fired the other 4 in the cylinder, S&W 642 airweight. Tried the DUD round in other chambers in the cylinder but no go. Will pull the bullet and see if its bad primer or what but not a squib load just the primer didn't go off. Again this wasn't .223 or 5.56 but .38 +p.. Will look at the box when I get home and post the lot #.

Here's the round
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh76/preecherr/38criticaldefensejpg.jpg

Lot #
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh76/preecherr/lotcritdef.jpg
2/19/2010 6:05:07 AM EDT
[#3]
Hornady 75 gr. BTHP MATCH  Lot # 3091197
2/26/2010 6:44:34 AM EDT
[#4]
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2/26/2010 6:54:54 AM EDT
[#5]



Quoted:


Just bought a box of .38 +p Critical Defense and the first round was a DUD... After looking around wondering what to do and holding the weapon pointed down range for about a minute or so I fired the other 4 in the cylinder, S&W 642 airweight. Tried the DUD round in other chambers in the cylinder but no go. Will pull the bullet and see if its bad primer or what but not a squib load just the primer didn't go off. Again this wasn't .223 or 5.56 but .38 +p.. Will look at the box when I get home and post the lot #.



Here's the round

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh76/preecherr/38criticaldefensejpg.jpg



Lot #

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh76/preecherr/lotcritdef.jpg


That looks like a bad primer strike to me.



 
2/26/2010 1:06:07 PM EDT
[#6]
More pics of the Dud round. Was trying to show the whole round in first pics. Hornady contacted me going to trade out ammo with me for a "GOOD" lot was their exact words. Sorry about the tore up place on the thumb was shooting my Taurus TCP and that dude is accurate but eats up the thumb.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh76/preecherr/IMG00243-20100221-1311.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh76/preecherr/IMG00246-20100221-1312.jpg
2/26/2010 1:27:41 PM EDT
[#7]



Quoted:


More pics of the Dud round. Was trying to show the whole round in first pics. Hornady contacted me going to trade out ammo with me for a "GOOD" lot was their exact words. Sorry about the tore up place on the thumb was shooting my Taurus TCP and that dude is accurate but eats up the thumb.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh76/preecherr/IMG00243-20100221-1311.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh76/preecherr/IMG00246-20100221-1312.jpg


Thanks for the additional pics. Are the primer indents the same as on rounds that went bang?



 
2/26/2010 7:26:52 PM EDT
[#8]
Yea basically they're the same. I think the primers are hard. This individual round was tried so many times it has different primer strikes.
2/27/2010 12:27:49 PM EDT
[#9]
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3/7/2010 5:36:02 PM EDT
[#10]
I'm going to un-tack this as there haven't been many reports. Hopefully the people who have had problems will post and update this thread if they get an answer from Hornady.
3/9/2010 10:54:46 AM EDT
[#11]
Saturday I took my brand new 6.8 upper out to shoot. Fired 5 rounds of Hornady 110gn Vmax, on the fifth round something very odd happened, It sounded like a normal round going off and the gun cycled I thought because when I pulled the trigger again it clicked, and the bolt was stuck closed.

At first I thought it was just a hot load or something like that, after I knocked the stuck case out of the rifle I found that the bullet was still in the case, That was odd because the primer was melted to my bolt.

Right now it looks like there isn't a flash hole in the case even though I am sure it went off more then just the primer, the case is bulged and was stuck in the chamber.

I really have no idea what happened.  Either way there was alot of smoke out of the wrong end.

I emailed Hornady but so far havent heard back from them.




3/9/2010 3:28:56 PM EDT
[#12]
Looks like the face/base of the primer separated from its wall and all the burning powder came out thru the pocket.

A bigger version of a pierced primer it seems.

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