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Posted: 2/3/2008 6:26:31 PM EDT
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Well, here are the 2 rounds sectioned. Tomorrow PPU '07 will be fired into a RiverSide turkey (thawed) of 11.2# including giblets. The turkey is roughly 6" thick. If it is true M193 spec ammo, I expect the witness panel to show a fragged mess on the other side of the turkey.  PS. TAKE THAT YOU WATER JUG THEORY DE-BUNKERS! PSS. A turkey isn't people, but neither is gelatin. Until I get a volunteer, get over it 
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Great idea, I look forward to seeing your test results... I could just imagine my 
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FYI Q3131 did the same thing as PPU at 100 yards (PPU results at 100y pictured) and at 25 yards both appeared to frag pretty badly. I see no reason for PPU to not frag as well as Q3131. Both of their jackets are = thickness, and both exibit the same behavior when striking the turkey. The Q3131 did impact near the PPU so the wound channels (slightly overlapping possibly) may have caused the Q3131 to encounter less resistance. I think that is just academic though. Anyways, frag or not it is clean, reliable, tumbles, and chronographs ar 3180fps ave. from a 20" non CL barreled AR. Here are the pics. I discovered also that the turkey was filled with giblets and thus the only REAL resistance the bullet encountered as the thin amounts of meat on the turkey's abdomen and dorsal regions (entry and exit). No major bones were hit. Entrance  Exit  Witness Panel PS. I also fired 10 rounds of Wolf Black Box 62gr at 100y and got 4 shots touching, 1 shot an inch or 2 away, same with another shot, and...well basically for a seated/kneeling position with open sights using a pole for support I was impressed and will buy more. |
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So did they fragment? It seems obvious from the picture of the box that whatever was fired did not fragment, but did yaw. Not sure which one it was, what the distance was, or if either one of them fragmented in the turket? EDIT: where on the bullet were the bullets sectioned? Those jackets seem unusually thick, but it might just be me. Thanks! |
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I buy a lot of Wolf for plinking and it all has a poly coated case and a bi-metal jacket. The Wolf you are using is probably not new production, but several years old. I prefer the old lacquer Wolf because I found it more accurate than the current stuff, which is 4 MOA in my guns. The old Wolf was 2.5 MOA, same as standard military ammo like Guat, Fiocchi, XM193, etc. If you've found a source of lacquer Wolf for around $210/K, please PM me and I'll buy some. I'm shooting Prvi now because it's the cheapest reasonably accurate ammo I can find. |
The wolf I sectioned had a HUGE bubble (empty space) between the jacket and the tip of hte lead core that was exposed as I ground it down. Since this is not about Wolf laquer ammo, I did not see fit to mention it, but I cannot see how this bubble would be conducive to accuracy/consistancy. |
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Could you get any sections of the rounds behind the cannelure? For what it is worth, I believe the thickness behind the cannelure would be most important, since most M193 type projectiles stay pretty much intact forward of the cannelure. It is the rear that does the tearing and ripping. I am not sure that there would be much of a difference in jacket thickness depending on locations, but you never know? Also, the Wolf projectiles are travelling 200 FPS or slower than any M193 spec. ammunition, so even assuming the same projectile, you could not assume similar performance. I would think that despite failing the magnetic test, they would use some other cheap, hard metal in the manufacturing process, although I wouldnt have the slightest clue what it would be. But who knows what they are using? It seems that Wolf changes their components pretty often, especially in .223 and 7.62x39. Also, I know that Wolf has had several calibers loaded with bullets containing a hollow cavity in the nose, and that includes 7.62x39. This is done simply for terminal performance. The air gap pushes the center of gravity to the rear, cuasing the bullet to loose stability upon impact, cuasing a much quicker yaw. I have never actually known them to do this in .223, but I have heard they do it. |
All new Wolf 223 ammo has the bimetal (steel) bullet. Black box used to be copper but they changed to steel without notice. Cheaper I guess. Also, I think after 2008 price increase, Wolf steel ammo will be about $240 per 1000. |
I know it is bad form, but I was eating while reading this. Thanks. Let me clean the hurl off my keyboard. |
the bubble as you say is normal the 5.45 x 39mm is like that |
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