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Posted: 12/2/2006 6:31:08 AM EDT
This not really a new product but we had to wait so long between production runs that many here are not familiar with it so I am re-introducing it.
UPDATE, 11/29/06 MOST ALL THE BACK ORERS ARE FILLED AND I HAVE A FEW LEFT. I HAVE CONTACTED EVERYONE I COULD REACH. IF YOU HAD ONE ON BACK ORDER CONTACT ME NOW. NEW ORDERS ARE BEING ACCEPTED.. AND SHIPPED Frank machined the F height front sight bases at CLE from forgings and are top quality. Each barrel will come with triangular front metal for those wishing to use standard Middy handguards and a barrel nut will be supplied I have some accessories available that can be purchased with your barrel. Some of the items are Delta ring assembly complete, Rock River middy standard hand guards, MI middy rail systems that install on the regular Delta assembly, many types of other rail systems in stock from LaRue, Daniel Defense and Troy, etc, etc. DIRECTLINK TO THE BARRELS The OPERATOR is a Dennys Guns/GTS exclusive. The barrel is a 16" Mid Length gas. The blanks are Rockcreek(Mike Rock). The barrel steel is Chrome Vanadium, full auto rated. These barrels are fully chrome lined, bore and chamber by US Chrome, who does Colt and most other top line tier one manufacturers barrels 1:7 twist. MP tested. Proprietary profile, mid weight with a slight taper from chamber to the gas block. Weight of barrel: 2 lbs 5 oz. as shipped with F/H, front sight and barrel nut. M4 barrel extensions. F front sight, pinned. 5.56 NATO chamber. Barrels will be parked under the front sight base. Threaded 1/2X28(standard M16 thread) A2 flash hider included. Standard barrel nut will be installed. Delta assembly will not be included as many of you will be using rail systems and I don't want to add $$$ for parts you might not use. They are available as an option. Same with the Middy gas tube. We are using nothing but the best here. 150 barrels in this run. The price is $340 shipped. ON TO THE PICS OPERATOR BARREL STRIPPED, WEIGHT 2LBS 3 OZ. OPERATOR BARREL WITH FRONT SIGHT IN PLACE, WEIGHT 2LBS 7 OZ. FRONT SIGHT 'F' MARKING FACTORY M4 RAMPS, THEY MATCH UP PERFECT WITH OUR CMT AND LARUE STEALTH BILLET UPPERS THE UPPER I BUILT FOR TEST FIRE TONITE ON SCALE. INCLUDES DD 9.0 RAIL, CMT/STAG M16 BCG, CHARGING HANDLE AND ALL THE EXTERNAL COMPONENTS YOU SEE THIS UPPER SET UP FOR TEST FIRE THIS WEEKEND ON ONE OF MY LOWERS MY PERSONAL OPERATOR BUILD UnknownSailor1's Operator Build ocmike's operator build A96HondaAccordEx's Operator Build GunDraw's Operator Build dSmith45's build Alfa-Romeo3's Build Mr-D's Build One of Mr-D's groups, pretty damn good shootin' with irons and a Chrome Lined Barrel mlm1219's Build A HUGE THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE KEPT FAITH THRU THIS PROJECT AND SHOWN A GREAT DEAL OF PATIENCE. The OPERATORS are beautiful and made from the finest components currently available. THANKS AGAIN TO ONE AND ALL WHO HAVE BEEN PATIENT AND MADE THESE TOP OF THE LINE BARRELS A SUCCESS. DENNY |
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I have a quick question for you regarding the weight of your OPERATOR barrel, generated in part by this thread. Basically, some folks are under the impression that the 16" OPERATOR mid-length barrel is only four ozs heavier than a 16" gov't. profile mid-length barrel. According to Forest's weight table, a 16" gov't. profile mid-length barrel weighs 1.6 lbs (25.5 ozs). Now, looking at the weight figures published on your Web site, the 16" OPERATOR mid-length barrel weighs 2.5 lbs (40 ozs). That's .9 lbs (14.5 ozs) more, correct? But, the data found in this thread indicates that the OPERATOR barrel weighs 2.2 lbs (35 ozs), or .6 lbs (9.5 ozs) more than a 16" gov't. profile mid-length. By any chance, do you know which is correct? 4 ozs more, 9.5 ozs more, or 14.5 ozs more? And I apologize if I'm shitting on your thread; that definitely isn't my intention. It's just that your IM feature is disabled (last time I checked) and I thought it'd be better to ask you here than in your EE thread. Either way, if you feel this post is inappropriate, please let me know and I'll remove it ASAP. Thank you for your time Denny. May you and yours have a very happy holiday season. Take care and G-d bless. Best Regards, Justin EDIT: It seems the weights posted were including the front sight base, barrel nut, and flash hider, which added 9.5 ozs to the overall weight of the barrel. It is my understanding that the correct stripped weight of Denny's 16" mid-length OPERATOR barrel is 27.5 ozs. |
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Hell, we did the weights a couple of years ago some were done with and without front sights and the comparison barrel was a 16" LMT. I have no idea what barrel Forest weighed and what was on the barrel at the time he weighed it. Did it have a front sight? barrel nut? flash hider? Delta Ring? The weights I state in the ad have an error, and should read 2lbs 5 OZ not 2.5 lbs. for my barrel with a front sight base and barrel nut and flash hider. I will edit the post.. The heavier weight is with front sight, flash hider barrel nut and Delta assembly The Operator is simply the best 4150 Chromemoly vanadium chrome lined barrel on the market. Thanks for finding my two year old typo Slicker.. Denny |
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I was entirely unaware that the weights posted were including a FSB (5.2 ozs), barrel nut (2 ozs.), and flash hider (2.3 ozs.). As far as I recall, that was not mentioned in the ad. Either way, that means the stripped weight of your OPERATOR barrel is 1.7 lbs. (27.5 ozs), so my apologies for the error. Had I known the weights Again, I apologize for the mishap. I'll edit my posts to reflect this clarification. Best Regards, Justin EDIT: spelling. |
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The Operator will stand up to the most severe use. I don't carry the Vltor line but will be happy to provide you with a barrel and whatever else you require for your mission. The Operators have scored very high in the accuracy ranks of chrome lined barrels. You may want to consider the LaRue STEALTH Billet upper for your SDM role as it pretty much looks like an ordinary M4 upper to prying eyes and you won't stand out in a crowd if ya know what I mean. Denny 816 809 9452 if you want to visit in more detail. |
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ya, you have a good point about those eyes.... email sent on GTS....
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denny, how much would this build cost?
operator barrel with gas tube and roll pin Larue 9" handguard troy rear sight charging handle with badger ordnance model 2 tac latch preinstalled SUPER DUTY BOLT CARRIER GROUP M16 and what would you recomend for a upper receiver?, Vltor MUR, CMT Complete Upper or Larue Stealth Upper? thanks. |
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Hafta tell you. The operator barrel is practically a piece of art. By that I mean that everything is right. The front sight is on straight, The M4 feed ramps line up properly with the feed ramp cuts in the upper (I have barrels where this alignment is off to one degree or another and I find it annoying when I pay a good price for a barrel, even thoug they still feed ok) , the balance is right, and the puppy just plain shoots. For hard use and a barrel that is simply going to be right in the first place you can't go wrong with the operator. The Larue upper wasn't out when I built my operator but I'll probably be fixing that situation soon. Time for me to get another while I can.
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Denny, I assume these are button rifled? How are they marked and who did the MPI?
Nice work. |
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Denny,
Forgive me for asking, but do you have plans for a 14.5" carbine gas OPERATOR barrel? Justin |
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Yes, Rock Creek button rifled barrel blanks that are finished by Compass Lake Engineerng. CLE does the MPI. Barrel markings are "DG"(Dennys Guns) CMP, 1H9H {The Cage Code). Denny |
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Not at this time. I am kicking around the idea of an 11.5 however. Denny |
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Hi Denny.
After shooting the operator for a year I would like to make some changes to it. I'd like to get rid of the YHM stuff and go with a Daniel Defense rail and a FSB. Can I ship my upper back to you for the changes or is it easier on you to just buy a new upper, barrel and rail ?? Thanks, Dennis |
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Dennis Whatever you want to do. It would be less expensive for you if you took the rail and stuff off. If you do decide to refurb your existing set up don't forget to send the FSB that came on your Operator. Denny |
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Never received the FSB. You assembled the upper with the YHM flip front. I don't think yjr barrel was ever drilled for the FSB pins
Are you in teh shop today? We can get this nailed down quick one way or another in a phone call. Dennis |
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I am at home. 816 809 9452 |
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I don't want to disturb you at home. I'll give you a call at the shop tomarrow.
Thanks |
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Damn. An 11.5" would probably sell like hot cakes. Is it likely that you'd offer one at a later point in time (i.e., 12-18 months)? In other words, is it something that's worth pursuing or is the market just too small? Also, one other question for you. Do you know if these are single-point cut rifled or pull button rifled? I went on Rock Creek's site and it says that the blanks made by Mike are single-point rifled and the ones made by Kim are pull button rifled. Best Regards, Justin |
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Justin, seven posts up....
These are most likely his OEM production barrels which are button rifled. Plenty good for a chrome lined stick. |
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Well, I guess that's why you get the big bucks, Steve.
Hope you and yours have a merry Christmas and a happy new year. Best Regards, Justin |
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Big bucks? Brother, you must have me confused with someone else Just another case of great minds thinking alike.... Merry Christmas Justin to you and your family. |
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I suppose you and I share a common infirmity then. Thanks for the well wishes, Steve. Best Regards, Justin |
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I would like an upper built with this brl, CMT M4 upper, LaRue rail. When is the best time to call?
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AM's are best. If the phone gets too busy in the afternoon and we have to get shipping and builds done I turn it off. Denny |
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Merry Christmas Denny!
I'm sold. One of these would fit just right on that LMT Shot Show Speical I got from you way back when. One question, will a KAC medium length free float RAS fit on the barrel with the standard FSB? |
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Yes, just fine and thank you. I hope you had a great Christmas. Denny |
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Is the Operator available sans FSB? I want to use a 10" Larue forend and LT gasblock.
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Denny I just bought one of your operator barrels look forward to hooking this bad boy up and seeing how well it shots. Are you going to keep these in the works for the near future or is this a special run for a short time. I will order another one in the future.
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Denny,
I just completed a build and have another one planned "real soon". What I would like to build is very accurate CQB rifle 16". Sense I'm still some what new building AR weapons I may not be asking the right questions so bear with me. Basically, I want this weapon to be an M4 and I'm leaning to the Operator barrel even though it's not a true M4 profile. Should I purchase the barrel do you have a bolt carrier group of equal high quality that you will "match or test fit" with the barrel? Is that a dumb question? The barrel will be matched with a LaRue Upper and most likely a SunDevil Gen2 Lower. One other thing, when it is completed I will have it done in "OD". I know there is DuraCote, but there is another finish out there that's supposed to be much better. Do you know what it's called? OK Denny, I'm open to your suggestions. |
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Denny,
Will you make a 4150 version of the LRSPR barrel in 5.56? If so, any rough ideas on availability and cost. Thanks |
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Please, please, please? |
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I second that..11.5 Mike Rock barrel would be so nice.. |
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It is in the works |
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Well looks like I will be using the CC once again. It has been rode hard but it can take a little more abuse. |
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Huh? how did you get locked. Denny any ETA on the 11.5" operators. I need to start the paperwork for an SBR and a can. |
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I got to get me one of these barrels
> would I see a accuracy inprovement over my RRA chrome lined barrel? |
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I am working in the final prints with CLE right now. I need to make sure the spec is GTG for the Ops Inc silencers I will soon be stocking. Denny |
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Nice looks like more money to spend. Would like to hook up a G5 to this and be done with buying stuff but you know that never happens.
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Nope, never happens I got more stuff than ever and just keep building them. Denny |
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Ain't that the truth! I wasn't home long enough last time to play with the new toys you last built for me, and I've already ordered more like that Operator build the other day and am planning to pick up an 11.5 Operator when available! Arghhhh! Denny, just tell me that the 11.5 Operator will fit a KAC M4 RAS and an AAC M4-2000 mount!? |
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I am going to great pains to make the new shorty Operators with proper offsets and diameters for can mounting,. The length will most likely be 12.0" not 11.5. A bit more reliability and a bit more velocity are good things. Denny |
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Denny,
What is the barrel diameter between the front sight base and flash hider? And can you get a 16" carbine length gas system? |
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.740. No carbine gas is available on this barrel. It is a middy |
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