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Posted: 1/31/2009 7:43:40 AM EDT
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I'm asking this for a freind who just purchased a Complete S&W Rifle ( He has no internet access )
He knows that cleaning up after Corrosive Ammo requires Hot Water however his concern is the Gastube I told him just to flush with Hot Water also and maybe blow it out with an air compressor What do you guys do ??? |
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I guess there's surplus from more than one country. What I bought was from AIM Surplus and I don't know what country it came from.
What I can tell you is that the last time I shot it I put it back in the case and let it sit in the bedroom for a week before I cleaned it. Absolutely no sign of corrosion anywhere, inside or outside. That is the first time I let it sit awhile between shooting and cleaning. Previously, when I shot it, I'd take it home and use some stuff called Black Off to clean the rifle. It's for black powder cleaning so it works for corrosive smokeless powder as well. I've used it before when shooting corrosive .308 in my M1A and it works. If figure next time I'll let the S&W sit a couple weeks before I clean it. Eventually something will rust or I'll decide that particular type of surplus isn't corrosive. |
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Hot water and soap. I turn up the temp on the hot water heater. It gets so hot I can barley hold the nozzle of the hose. Then I just dry it off with an old hair dryer.
Afterward clean the barrel and chamber as you normally do. Here are some pics of me cleaning a Interarms Tantal. Edit to add: I know you were specifically asking about the 5.45 AR Uppers and the gas tube. I am just trying to illustrate that people have no need to fear getting their weapons wet with water. Some feel that my method is....welll....all wet, so to speak. 
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Hot water and soap. I turn up the temp on the hot water heater. It gets so hot I can barley hold the nozzle of the hose. Then I just dry it off with an old hair dryer. Afterward clean the barrel and chamber as you normally do. Here are some pics of me cleaning a Interarms Tantal. Edit to add: I know you were specifically asking about the 5.45 AR Uppers and the gas tube. I am just trying to illustrate that people have no need to fear getting their weapons wet with water. Some feel that my method is....welll....all wet, so to speak. http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0356.jpg http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0357.jpg http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0362.jpg http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0364.jpg Damn! You go way past what I do to clean my rifles. 
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Hot water and soap. I turn up the temp on the hot water heater. It gets so hot I can barley hold the nozzle of the hose. Then I just dry it off with an old hair dryer. Afterward clean the barrel and chamber as you normally do. Here are some pics of me cleaning a Interarms Tantal. Edit to add: I know you were specifically asking about the 5.45 AR Uppers and the gas tube. I am just trying to illustrate that people have no need to fear getting their weapons wet with water. Some feel that my method is....welll....all wet, so to speak. http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0356.jpg http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0357.jpg http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0362.jpg http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0364.jpg Damn! You go way past what I do to clean my rifles. It is actually pretty fast and easy. Just disassemble it , throw everything in a bucket with a little dish soap and spray the heck out of everything. A couple of times I have skipped running patches down the barrel because I knew I was going to be shooting again in a week. |
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Hot water and soap. I turn up the temp on the hot water heater. It gets so hot I can barley hold the nozzle of the hose. Then I just dry it off with an old hair dryer. Afterward clean the barrel and chamber as you normally do. Basically the same thing here. I just do mine outside with the hose. Plain cold water and no soap. I don't even dry mine, I just use spray lube to displace the water and I am GTG. No problems. Plan to do similarly when I get my 5.45 uppers. |
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I'm lazy. I got several cases of the Romanian NON-corrosive 5.45 ammo for a little cheaper than the pile of corrosive stuff I have some time ago. I just shoot about 3 mags of the NON-corrosive ammo when I'm done shooting the corrosive stuff then spray everything down w/ carb cleaner. No problems here.
BTW, I'm running in full auto w/ a RDIAS. |
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+1 for the old 19th century methods! I always use lots of hot, soapy water, (actually, Dawn dishwashing detergent, which is not really soap, but it is hard to find real soap anymore, unless you want to grind up expensive hand soaps. The Dawn serves just as well, however).
Followed by a rinse of hot, (boiling hot), water. Let it dry itself, (though the hair dryer is a good idea for cooler teperatures). Then clean with conventional bore cleaner, and relubricate with whatever conventional oil you use. Its cheap, clean, green, and non-toxic. What cleaner could be safer than what you use for cleaning the dishes that you eat off of? I admit that I have gotten some funny looks, but really, if you are using Windex on your gun, it is the same as spraying it with water. Windex is mostly water, and the ammonia does absolutely nothing to remove the corrosive salt. |
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I have had rust spots show up on the flash hider, the ejection port door, and on the bolt.
That was after trying some old balistol, I guess the stuff either doesnt work or goes bad. To the OP, the gastube is stainless, and self cleaning to an extent, don't worry about it. Additionally it will be rinsed out when you rinse the gun off with hot water. Clean it with hot water and soap and you will be set. Don't trust a miracle oil to do the job, soap and water works. |
| i take hot hot water and pour it down the bore, gas block, and gas tube. take a damp rag and wipe off the bolt and carrier. the hot water dissipates itself but just to be sure i blow it off with the compressor. clean as normal. never had an issue. i shoot russian 7n6 for the most part. this is for the ak74. i shoot romanian hotshot non-corrosive out of the s&w 5.45. although it wouldn't hurt the ar to shoot it either as long as you clean anywhere on the gun the gases may go. all my ammo was bought cheap. romanian was .12 a round and my russian varied from .10 to 13 a round. |
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I'm lazy. I got several cases of the Romanian NON-corrosive 5.45 ammo for a little cheaper than the pile of corrosive stuff I have some time ago. I just shoot about 3 mags of the NON-corrosive ammo when I'm done shooting the corrosive stuff then spray everything down w/ carb cleaner. No problems here. BTW, I'm running in full auto w/ a RDIAS. Most of the ammo that I can find that claims to be Non-corrosive is BERDAN primed such as Wolf, Brown,Silver,& Gold bear + others. And last time I checked anything that is Berdan primed is corrosive because of the primer, mabey not a lot but a little is all it takes. |
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