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Posted: 10/20/2005 8:19:45 PM EDT
Here are some shots I thought you all would enjoy of the great D-760 mounted atop a 6.8 SPC. This is a KNOCKOUT setup with the new Magpul PRS! I routinely bang man-size plates at 600M with this setup. The target groups you see below are barely over an 1" at 100m. The top grouping are my sighters, as the scope was mounted for the FIRST time! Mind you, that ALL shooting was of done dark of moon this particuliar evening around 2200hrs at approx. 7,000' in altitude.
Here is a comparison I did late last year. www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=237460&page=12 The D-760 has a retail price of $3,950.00. It includes a ITT select A tube of course, (I STRONGLY urge the hand selelct option on this platform), variable intensity as well as user selelctable red OR amber mildot reticle, 1/4 min adjustments etc. Contact me for special ARFcom member pricing! Also, look for the D-740 (4X) next week in a side by sale with its big brother the 760. Plenty of great pics on the way of the 740 with thru the tube shots downrange as well to kickoff this big sale event next week on the EE. Thanks all and enjoy the pics! Vic |
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Victor,
What is the height measured from the center of D-760 eyepiece to the top of 1913 rail? Thanks |
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Thought I would post the review here between the D760 and the Raptor.
"Hello all, A short time ago I purchased BOTH the D-760 and a Raptor in 6x magnification. Both of course came standard with tube data sheets with remarkable hand picked tubes. 64LP, 27-29 Signal to Noise, etc. Both units also have red mil-dot reticules with the D-760 having a very ingenuous amber or red mil-dot reticule selectable switch on the power knob. I took both units out to a VERY dark DoD facility out west and got to play with two of the best and finest pieces of gear I ever laid my hands on and did a comparison test between the two. I started my observing last week with a 1/4 moon at approx. 0430hrs and of course me being me, I decided to observe at the far reaches of the universe to start things off at 1600 yards and work out!! Both units were on platforms consisting of a custom AWC .300 win mag, as well as a new MSTN custom AR-15 6.8 SPC with an ARMS #58 SIR. No shooting was allowed on the facility at this time, so I settled for a small sized forklift parked broadside for viewing purposes. When I first looked through the Raptor, I was simply AMAZED at the clarity and contrast I could see out this far. NO WAY would I be able to see this detail on a hot steamy day with all the mirage coming off the tarmac. But at night, I was simply amazed by the Raptor’s Sharp and clear contrast and resolution. For a $7,000.00 NVD, I was hoping I would be amazed. Next came the D-760 which btw, was (it seemed) half the weight of the Raptor along with almost half the price! I have not weighed the Raptor vs. the D-760 as yet, but I can tell you the Raptor is a monster compared to the D-760. The Raptor has a 165mm objective compared to a 110mm with the D-760 which is where most of the weight is held. Anyways, back to the D-760…..Powered up the 760 and at first forgot to focus the far field adjustment and the image at 1600 yards was a bit blurry. After the focus was made, I came away also amazed by the brightness and resolution. The ONLY difference I saw after 30 minutes going back and forth of the two was the Raptors slight edge on edge to edge sharpness and it seemed to have a wider field of view which seemed to equate to a bit more image magnification also probably due to the huge objective glass the Raptor has. These scopes were VERY close to one another in views through the eye piece. In fact, they were soooo close I had a colleague look through BOTH scopes and stated the same exact thing I had. I NEVER told him what scope he was looking though as I put a dark towel over both units to hide their identities! Both units at 1600 yards saw the forklift with great detail, with the Raptor winning out by seeing the cab frame a bit better. As I stated at the beginning of this article, me being me I then tested the long range observation characteristics with a small 10’ x 20’ storage shed as well as a 64' ground based antenna dish at 3500 yards away!!! Both units saw the shed and dish with ease with the Raptor clearly showing off its 165mm objective with an incredibly sharp image. The D-760 was no slouch; the shed was clearly defined but not as sharp. If anything, these two units can be used not only for NVD sniper scopes, but for the world’s best observation NVD spotting scopes PERIOD!! I decided to bring the fork lift in at 500 yards and see what we could see. At the conclusion of this viewing session, my colleague and I agreed that there was virtually no difference in target recognition at this distance. They were almost identical in ALL areas at 500 yards and we also observed at 300 and 100 yards with the same results. After spending the next hour looking through both units, both my colleague and I agreed that for mission requirements out past 600 yards, the Raptor would be deployed for the crisp and razor sharp images. That of course is what the 165mm objective and $7,000.00 will get you. As for the D-760, anything in below 600 yards would be easy pickin’s. The price difference of course is VERY large between both units so individuals whose profession includes protecting lives and want the VERY best edge to edge resolution and sharpness, the Raptor can be justified. For some military and all LEO and varmint hunters, I cannot think of any better NV scope than the D-760 for the price of under 4K. It's light weight, and has a great tube. In fact, both units had the best tubes I’ve ever looked through with NO blemishes to speak of, not a speck I could see. In closing I can tell you that what ever units you choose, you cannot go wrong. Presently though, the new off the shelf Raptors for sale are now restricted to LE and military units ONLY. They are legal to own of course, but any new units for sale are restricted. Unless you know someone in the LE community or military, obtaining a brand new Raptor could now be very difficult. With this news of course, I'm sure the price will soar well above the $7,000.00 current Raptor retail price tag if you can even find one. What’s left to buy you say? The D-760 is it." |
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How do the adjustments work on that? Can you adjust the POI with your fingers, like on a precision rifle scope? Are the adjustments consistent?
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Indeed, should have listed this as well....1/4 min. click adjustment for BOTH elevation and windage. I've performed the "box" return to zero test extensively on both the 760 and the 740 (4x) with no probelems noted for each. When I post the ad up in a few days, I will insure all the specs are listed. Thanks for the reminder Jack. Vic |
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Was playing with my D760 the other night and had to chime in a bit. The D760 is a PIMP DADDY tool. Got mine through VicD and was hooked up with an Optics HQ hand select SCREAMIN specs tube. Did I mention the D760 was the PIMP DADDY tool?
My house backs up to a preserve and I was messing around with various focal points and imaginary targets and generally staying up late screwing around. Bottom line...if the wind chill was not 40 degrees I would still be out there right now. This is really the first time I put the D760 up to a test of any sort. Surprisingly I found that even thought it is 6x, proper- and easy to adjust- focus, allows you to sight close-in targets at @50 meters almost like a 4x. It is an incredibly clear and versatile night scope. In that respect I figure folks who don't yet have a D760 have the following reasons for not owning one: 1) They can't afford one- save your $ like I did boys! Its worth it!! 2) They don't understand how good it is... PIMP DADDY SHIZNIT I TELL YA!!! Special thanks to Micheal and Victor for "breaking me into the world of night" and for having the patience to teach me and hold my hand through various purchases. (5 perfect ones that is) If it is within your means....buy one now....right now. Seriously! Don't fear the night...own it!!! Freddy |
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Hey Vic- Was taking a look at the D740 for use with lighter-weight/ tactical type platforms. Your thoughts?
Thanks- Freddy |
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Freddy, Indeed the 740 is just about half the wieght and size, plus around 400 bones cheaper. It has ALL the great features of the D-760 such as variable intensity dual color mil-dot reticule, 1/4 min adjustments, etc. Look for a detailed report AND a sales promo ad this weekend on the EE with these two awesome NV scopes! I will also post a detailed look-see here of course. Thanks Freddy, Vic |
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I came away in awe AGAIN...Take a look at this shot of a clump of bushes at 1X and at approx. 1000 yards with the D-760!!
1X PVS-14 6X D-760 Stay tuned this weekend when I show off BOTH the D-760 and the D-740 with a introductory kick off sale! MUCH more VERY impressive pics coming!!! Ok.....Here is one more 760 shot!! Power lines standing around 1500+ yards! Edited to ad...BTW, Check the calender at at approx. 2030hrs, west coast time, there was NO MOON out folks, none! |
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Hi Heron, the ad is already posted here!! www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=23&t=305866 Call me anytime, as I would be happy to discuss what scope is best suited for your mission requirments. Victor |
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Thought I would post the pics on the EE add over here....Sorry it took me so long, I just plain forgot to update the pics here! Enjoy!
M4 Carbine here with the D-740 D-740 atop a early SPR Mod 0 The target below is was engaged at 100M with my 18" 6.8SPC. It was around 2200hrs at 7,000' elevation in the DEAD OF NIGHT with no moon!! The top group was my sighters and mind you, this was the FIRST time the D-760 was mounted atop this platform. The second group was after a few clicks. You want resolution and accuracy in the dark shadows, you got it! Enjoy! Nice look down shot of the D-740. Thanks all! Close-up of the shuddered eye guard of the D-740! Should have clened that drn thing, my eye lash is stil there! Denny's guns new purchase of the D-740! Thanks Denny!! Nice view here of the dope adjustments, far field focus, battery housing, power and reticule intensity adjustments. |
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Glad you liked the pic! |
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Believe it or not, this is the same logic I used in coming to the decision of the D-760 for my current project. The increase in functionality is easily worth the mere $400 additional cost. True, it weighs more, but at those ranges, you're not tactical, anyway. At close range, a head-mounted MUM^2 and an IR laser seem like a more practical combo. If you can also obtain/luck out and get a super high performance tube in that package (hand select, of course!), so much the better. I'll be very interested in testing out my D-760 next month. |
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Or perhaps this month! I know Victor has a D-760 feedback forum, which I'll post to, but such threads are typically left for feeback on the transaction, rather than the product. Fed-Ex made delivery today, so here's some initial reactions. First look at the box size : Oh, my God (turns out there's quite a bit of accessory space within) First sight of the D-760 : Mmmmmm ::smile:: First reaction to the weight : Hey! Overall first impression : ...Well, would anyone blame me for a giddy laugh? More once I get to shoot it, although that's going to be a bit. The rifle hasn't been delivered, yet. I few questions, though, if I may. Any idea if a throw lever mount wil become available for this unit? I see the current mount is attached to the main body housing via hex screws. It won't fit over a KAC folding rear sight and the front lens hits my RAS cover. So, either way, I'll need to raise it. Just wondered about outright replacing the mount. Second, in front of the battery compartment on the photos, above, there is a round "cap" of sorts. Mine has some sort of rail mounted there, instead, tapped and threaded. Looking through the User Guide, this feature is not identified. Any idea what it's for? It's not Picatinny. Third, how sensitive to voltage variation is the unit. It would be preferrable to use rechargeable batteries in the unit, save that some NiMH or NiCad AAs are known to product slightly over 1.5v. Fourth, if I did need to clean the optics, what would you recommend as a suitable cloth? |
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Hi,
GLAD the unit go to you from Fed-X! The throw lever mount was getting designed through Ned at Mounting Solutions Plus. We had a great design, but cost per unit (probably $275.00 or more) was not justifiable thus far so the project presently is not going forward. We tried to keep the scope as LOW as possible which is a great thing for NV rifle scopes so indeed the front rubber lens cover rubs on the FT rail. All of my customers notch out an area of the rubber cover to clear the rail. As you know, the were only talking about an 1/8" at the most. I've been trying to convince bulter Creek for the last few years to design NV covers for the line of NV scopes! The "mystery rail" in front of the battery compartment is where "Da-Torch" mounts if one has a desire to mount it there. Most bolt gun users that have no rail space find this a Godsend. I would not use rechargable batteries in ANY NV gear. With a 6-8 hour continous use of normal AA batts, I do not see this as an issue. Also, (I remind all of this) always remove the batteries when the scope is NOT in use to avoid any accidental battery leakage and accidental turn-on's. As for the cleaning the lens (glad you brought this up)....ALWAYS use Photo lens cleaning paper, camels hair brush and lens cleaning solvent. Here is the proper way to clean any high end glass optic. First go to your local camera shop and pick up the above gear...Then, 1) Lightly brush away any dust, debris with the camels hair brush. 2) IF any smudges, finger prints exist apply a DROP or 2 of the lens solvent onto the paper not the lens itself. 3) Clean from the center out and NO "wax-on/wax-off" circuliar cleaning methods. 4) Then take a dry piece of cleaning paper to finish the job. Hope this helps and thanks N! |
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In my case, the rear of the unit is not high enough to clear a KAC 600m BUIS, so notching the objective lens cover won't solve the mounting issue. Getting the D-760 above it will also deal with the front height. Purchasing a throw lever accessory rail should do the trick and I'll look for one a slight bit shorter than the D-760 mount, which also extends out over the hand guard retaining ring, when mounted ahead of the BUIS. All these little nuisance problem possibly could be addressed by a set of throw lever rings/ mount, although I understand the rationale for there not being one, to date.
I see. In my case, my Da Torch won't thread into that hole. Whether one or the other is of different thread type I cannot say. The thread will start, but no more. As a former pipe fitter, that tells me the thread patterns don't match properly or the female threads are not deep enough to thread beyond the initial taper.
Rechargeables comes into play with regards to long term sustainment, when consumables, like batteries cannot be counted on for availability. One project I dealt with addressed field sustainment using amorphous flexible panels (ounces), a charging unit that was about the same size as a battery storage case, and secondary power cells (fancy name for rechargeables). The down side being that all secondary power cells tend to produce slightly above their rated output and have lower mAh ratings than primary cells (for example, various RCR123As produce between 3.3v and 4.2v instead of 3v). This dilema can be offset slightly through the use of industrial grade alkalines (which are not generally available to the consumer public), but primaries cost more to operate over the long term.
In fact, I'm probably going to make up a small cleaning instruction card and have it laminated to include in my kit. If I'm feeling especially detail-oriented, Ill contact Battlecloth about having them make me a small pouch to contain a cleaning kit. If successful, I'll post it in my Finding NV Accessories thread. I've already enquired of Steve regarding another product I believe would be useful. ETA : Speaking of a maintenance kit, are the hex keys in the body of the D-760 metric? They are too small for my 1/8" and too big for my 7/64". |
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FOLLOW UP : After examining the threads under a table magnifier, it appears the matter was more easily corrected than anticipated. Turns out whomever manufactures the rail does so using VERY close tolerances and is a damn fine machinist. The problem arose from enameling the surfaces, afterward. Through the judicious use of a bit of threading oil and the bolt from the Torch mount, I was able to remove the excess and open up the taper just enough to result in a tight mating to the rail. All I need to do now is snug up the rail on the D-760. It's mounted on what appears to be a rubber washer and tends to flex slightly when the Torch comes into contact with a sling. Hence, the enquiry regarding the hex key size. Finally, are spare parts available for the D-760? I might consider picking up such elements as a spare objective lens cover, eye cup, (2) knob caps, battery cover with both screws, and (2) replacement mounting rail clamps with their disc inserts. |
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Any thoughts concerning the ARMS #19 mount with the ARMS #11 Aquila STANAG Adapter? By appearances, the Aquila/Raptor and the D-760 use essentially the same body. True, the combo is up there in price, too, but it does get you a throw lever mount. I'd include a photo of the mount, but even though I've upgraded to Gold membership, the photo server says my maximum number ofimages is -1. Anyone know how to fix that? In the interim, I can only offer the following link : ARMS #11 Aquila STANAG Adapter |
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I've made the phot hot here.... Unfortuantley the holes do not line up with the D-760/740 and this mount cannot be used. As for your pic status, try emailing one of the staff memebers, they should be able to help you. Thanks N. |
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