Posted: 10/20/2009 11:06:59 AM EDT
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Brilliant improvisation
(For entertainment purposes only, don't try this at home, not my fault if you screw up and explode your gun or something, etc. etc.) Shooter is Nigerian and faces legal barriers to obtaining effective self defense ammo. Check out the link for details, but to summarize: 
There's a nut tack welded to the bottom of the mold, centered on the drilled hole, so that when the bolt is installed before pouring to make the cavity it's centered up. A felt wad is added and common school glue was used to reseal the shell after pushing the new slug in. Target was at 33 yards, shooter used this pistol grip only semi-auto 12ga with improvised stock made from a walking stick: 
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He could always run one of those Nigerian internet scams and instead of money get people to send buckshot and slugs .  If a Nigerian gun owner e-mailed me and asked for some 12ga slugs I might actually send him some-just as long as he didn't ask for my credit card 
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From the holes in the metal it looks like there was some "keyholing" in a few of the rounds. He'll now need to improvise rifleing. I should have read more carefully, sounds like he fixed that: Y-man: I got a 4-hole mold made! Out of steel, four 17mm holes (For slugs that fit better in the bore: and can still be seated easily within the shot-cup without bulging it.) I am still using the same quantity of shot: the same shot poured out of the shell is melted for the slug. (Carefully!)
The bolts at the bottom are bigger too: instead of the 10mm of the old mold, this is 12mm. So this leaves a bigger hollow cavity in the Slug. The hollow cavities are gauged to be deeper now, so I now have a longer slug: the old slugs were about 17mm long: these new slugs are 22mm long. (No need for the felt wads anymore.) The slugs seat properly in the shot-cup now, and seal very well against the roll-crimp. A few dabs of clear nail varnish to water-proof: and good to go. The larger hollow cavities are now about 2/3 of the length of the entire slug: slug is 22mm long, hollow cavity extends into it as much as 16mm. This really puts the slugs point-first even after leaving the muzzle: no tumbling at all. Accuracy is even more phenomenal… Quoted:
He could always run one of those Nigerian internet scams and instead of money get people to send buckshot and slugs . 
Y-man: Sorry to sound defensive: we aren’t all fraudsters here: we have a lot of creative, imaginative, intelligent, law-abiding, hard-working people here too.
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Greetings from Nigeria,
I am Mengistu Selassie , great nephew of the late Ethiopian King Haile Selassie. I have developed a new projectile that will revolutionize modern warfare. I have 20 million Obongo dollars to send to a manufacturer in the United States to begin wholsale prodction of the revolutionary product. However due to our arcane banking laws I am unable to forward this investment capitol to our vendor without an American agant. Please forward me your checking acount and bank routing numbers and I will pay you a handsome 30% fee. Myself and the employess of Vulcan/Hesse with forever be in your humble service. God bless you, M.S. Esquire. |
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Greetings from Nigeria, I am Mengistu Selassie , great nephew of the late Ethiopian King Haile Selassie. I have developed a new projectile that will revolutionize modern warfare. I have 20 million Obongo dollars to send to a manufacturer in the United States to begin wholsale prodction of the revolutionary product. However due to our arcane banking laws I am unable to forward this investment capitol to our vendor without an American agant. Please forward me your checking acount and bank routing numbers and I will pay you a handsome 30% fee. Myself and the employess of Vulcan/Hesse with forever be in your humble service. God bless you, M.S. Esquire. Shoot  I wish I would have seen your post yesterday....I already accepted the offer from another person, but they were only offering 20%
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Freakin' awesome.
I applaud his ingenuity. That's a pretty cool SHTF slug mold. I'd like to see some of those slugs fired into some clay, ballistic gel or other media. I think his ingenuity needs to be working on a better stock for his shotty or at least a better recoil pad, a pair of hospital crutches or something. If it weren't for export laws I'd send him a better stock. |
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He could always run one of those Nigerian internet scams and instead of money get people to send buckshot and slugs . If a Nigerian gun owner e-mailed me and asked for some 12ga slugs I might actually send him some-just as long as he didn't ask for my credit card
As long as he uses them in Nigeria. 
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Anothe option, probably not as accurate as this, is to cut the plastic hull such that when fired the entire shell exits the barrel and acts as a slug. interesting. This would not create issues of chamber pressure comeing back through the breech at you? About where would one perforate the hull? Course, if you perforated the hull enough so it would detach there before the end of the came out, the shell might be pretty fragile... |
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Anothe option, probably not as accurate as this, is to cut the plastic hull such that when fired the entire shell exits the barrel and acts as a slug. interesting. This would not create issues of chamber pressure comeing back through the breech at you? About where would one perforate the hull? Course, if you perforated the hull enough so it would detach there before the end of the came out, the shell might be pretty fragile... I had heard this for years. I tried it. <Mythbuster> Busted </Mythbuster> |
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Quoted: From the holes in the metal it looks like there was some "keyholing" in a few of the rounds. He'll now need to improvise rifleing. No, a blunt lead projectile will not be hard enough to cut a clean hole in steel targets. Because the lead is soft, it grabs the steel and the remaining ligament of the steel is bent around, causing the oblong hole. The group he got it DAMN GOOD for a Foster slug at 33 yards WITH ONLY A FRONT BEAD! Nothing unstable about them. |
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My boss, IIRC, talked about using wire with lead fishing weights crimped on the end. The wire coiled up inside the shell. Created a 6 inch 'line of damage'. which is against the fed law IIRC anyone tempted to play with this might want to look it up first |
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I've done this for years and years. I have the Lee 12G slug mold and just cast the birdshot into a slug and replace it into the hull. The real trick is getting the crimping right. About 2/3 the time, it pops back in fine, but the other 1/3 you have to run it thru a crimping die. (i run them all thru a crimping die)
The result is like shooting a 12G Reduced Power slug and WAAAAAY easier on the wallet if you buy your birdshot at Walmart by the 100. Accuracy is as good as any factory slug in my rifled barrel. |
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Anothe option, probably not as accurate as this, is to cut the plastic hull such that when fired the entire shell exits the barrel and acts as a slug. interesting. This would not create issues of chamber pressure comeing back through the breech at you? About where would one perforate the hull? Course, if you perforated the hull enough so it would detach there before the end of the came out, the shell might be pretty fragile... I had heard this for years. I tried it. <Mythbuster> Busted </Mythbuster> What was the myth? That you can perforate the hull like that? Or that the pressure will leak out from the breech or what? What happened exactly when you tried it? |
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something is fubar... i try to click on page 2 and it comes up but aside from the adds and what not up top this is all that will load in the thread section of the page...
Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a0009'
Subscript out of range: '[number: 1]' /lib/active/time.html, line 29 ofcourse i guess i wont be able to read whats wrong in this thread so if someone can IM me and let me know what the heck is going on i'd really appriciate it! thanks in advance... K. |
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