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Posted: 1/29/2016 9:36:54 PM EDT
INTRO





The blogger molonlabe is some sort of a counter-terrorist operator in Russian Caucasus (Ingushetia region, most likely). Below, he talks about what life as an insurgent is like.





I thought this may be interesting to translate - not just to share his stories, but mostly to show the hell that insurgent's/partisans life is in general. I would assume it stayed pretty similar in every place and age - from King Alfred of Wessex hiding from Saxons in a swamp, to American colonists and Viet Cong; details may change, but it's always highly unappealing.
BACKGROUND





One thing you need to understand about the war in Caucasus is that:





1. On one hand, the Chechens and other islamists have been largely defeated, and the locals already got to see what their Caliphate looks like - they want none of it (Chechnya under Islamist rule was ISIS-lite, slave markets and all, but with even more lawlessness).





2. On the other hand, there are always a few idiots that are slow on the uptake, or have freshly arrived from a Hajj to Mecca, where they were "re-educated" by Saudis.





So there are no longer large, well-organized gangs, but low-intensity anti-terrorist campaign is endemic to the region. Maybe it can be compared to the IRA in some ways.





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Story 1: "STRAGGLERS"





Molonlabe:


Being an insurgent has its negative sides. One of them is that you can not count on your buddies not abandoning you in battle. This is not because the bandits are all vile and immoral (although that, too). It's simply because the firefights are usually sudden, and trying to save a buddy in trouble is usually impossible. The choice is simple - to run, or die along with him. We have no such choice - the option to leave our own in battle is not considered even in theory. But the bandits have a different mentality and different priorities. Their talk about "dreaming of martyrdom" is mostly propaganda. The bandits will never stand and fight, if they have the option of running away. But oftentimes this salvation is actually a protracted death. Say, the whole gang destroyed, and one escaped. Or he went to get food, came back and the base was already destroyed by  evil infidels. Or you were abandoned in battle, but managed to get away. The gang immediately faded into the woods, and you are left alone. So, what is next?





Bandits

are put in conditions where they have to withhold vital information
even from each other: who is the accomplice providing the gang with
food, where are the caches, spare shelters, how to
communicate with other gangs and so on. And the survivors, stuck by themselves, are left with nothing. If one is very lucky and knows where is a cache with food - he survives for some time. But it still is constant living on the brink. Sprained your foot? You will die. Caught a bad cold? You will die. Come out of the the woods? You will be shot. In a firefight, such stragglers put up little resistance. Trying to run away also ends in failure - they are too weakened. They are often found with body sores and boils. In practice, they resemble armed hobos.





Here are the contents of the backpack of one such straggler. Toothpaste is there, but the lid is stuck - has not been opened in a while. Just two pills of Nurofen...











The machinegun has not been cleaned in God knows how long ...











His kitchen. He would stir a spoonful of flour with a little water, and bake it
over a small fire into a tiny piece of bread, which he would eat with
ketchup:











Empty mags, and one full one...











Some loose ammo in the backpack...











The battery in the phone was dead. Very little food. The bandit was haggard and emaciated. He just tried to hide in the bushes, hoping we won't find him. No such luck.



Scouts sometimes find those who died by themselves. Just sat down, leaned against a tree and died. Obviously, that's an unpleasant sight, because the remains are usually found some time later, and in summer the bodies decompose rapidly.





One
straggler was found by the locals in their basement  - he had a fever
and began to rave, and this gave himself out. He did not make it.



What's the point of running from a fight and condemning yourself to a lonely and hungry wandering through the woods? Well, everyone is the maker of their own little hell.





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[second translation to follow right below]

 
Link Posted: 1/29/2016 9:37:27 PM EDT
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Story 2: A TERRORIST'S LIFE



Molonlabe: As promised, I'll tell you about how terrorists live in the wild.



If you have been on a serious hike, you know that staying clean the whole time is a problem. Sooner

or later, habits recede, and you are eating food with unwashed hands,
tolerate grimy dishes, and in general, are not a picture of
cleanliness.
For those that have to permanently live in the forest, far from civilization,
especially since they need to constantly hide and sneak, hygiene
inevitably takes third place to the needs of constant struggle against
hunger and cold.
There are limits, of course. Those
who go too far in their disgusting habits, are forcibly brought back up
to minimum standards by other bandits. Because, although it is possible
to tolerate the s
tench - lice,
bedbugs and decaying body parts can be a hazard to others, physically and morally.
There were even cases of executions of far-gone militants. Because they can't let those go in peace, and can not bring them back to human form. Nothing else to do.



Living autonomously is hard. Bandits try to create some kind of minimum living conditions, but those hiding like rats will inevitably have a rat's life. Well, no one said being a terrorist would be easy - from the very beginning, newcomers are warned about the hardships and privations of "jihad". However, in practice it turns out to be much worse than described. Sooner
or later, "warriors of God" cease to view life as something valuable -
because the value of living such a lifestyle is, objectively, near zero.
Yes, no one wants to die, and survival instinct still works.
I personally haven't seen cases
where a "Mujahid rushed a crowd of enemies, sowing panic among them
his courage", as their propagandists like to say.
As a rule, the main goal of the bandits in a firefight is to run away from it as quickly as possible. And, unlike [us], abandoning their own in battle is not considered reprehensible among them.



Insurgents only live in dugouts and bunkers during the winter. Other seasons, it is impossible to stay in them, because you need to burn a fire the whole time, to ward off dampness. If this isn't done, a wet dugout will drive them to the grave faster than the "evil infidels." Very rarely do they manage to build a comfortable dugout. I
only saw a couple of holes where you could walk straight, and which
have been more or less insulated for staying warm in winter.
Here is one, for example:







Usually, dugout is only big enough to move on all fours. Nothing fancy - staying alive is already great. The stench in these holes is unbearable, and soaks into everything. Nothing to be done - nowhere to shower in winter...







In the summer, bandits live in tents or just sleep under the open sky. This is due to the fact that the bases have to be saved for the winter. Loss of a base, which was built at such an expense, is a real tragedy for them. Especially in winter, when building even a temporary hut is very difficult. Cry, terrorists -
"evil infidels and apostates" found and burned your "home sweet home":







How do you live now? Where to go? What to do? All the food and loot is gone!







In short, losing a base is a real reason to be sad...

Therefore,
the bases are necessarily left empty in the spring, summer and autumn,
and insurgents wander through the mountains, stopping at random places for the night.
Sometimes it looks relatively civilized - camped similar to tourists:







But mostly - like dogs. Falling on rugs and sleeping:







Here, a question of building campfires comes up. Yes, they need to hide and so on. But how much food can one make on a burner, for example? And how long can you exist on dry bread and cookies? So they to take risks and start campfires.







Sometimes they even make an improvised oven. Bake bread (no shops in the forest). Pants are dried above it, so that the heat is not wasted.







A fire is needed not only to dry off and get warm, but also to prepare any kind of hot soup:







But sometimes there is nothing cook, at all. Say, the accomplice who brought them food gets arrested - that's it, facing starvation. They have to go back to hunter-gatherer mode - berries, mushrooms, fishing and hunting. This guy caught fish for soup:







And if they managed to shoot a deer, or steal a lamb - then it is a holiday. The remaining meat needs to be cured, or it'll rot.







One time, they got hit by an attack helo when drying meat. We did not know, and when we arrived, found on the branches plastered with pieces of raw meat. At first we thought those were the bandits after direct hit. Barf ...



By the way, about hygiene again - that's how they cook their meals:







The bottle isn't that big a deal - look at the sides of a cooking pot:







And see the "clean" hands of the cooks?







But at least those guys will have hot soup. Most will have to eat their food on the run, whatever they got:







Actually,
this lifestyle is what prevents many potential militants from going
into the forest. Those that leave are usually already involved, and
flee to the country when they realize they're about to get nabbed. At this point, their choices are limited - prison, or a dugout.

The califans understand all these problems. Once, they even decided to shoot a "commercial" of how they feast. Like, "we want for nothing, and live like kings". Alas, the idea has ended in failure. After a few days, both the camera operators and the actors saw the end of their worthless existence. Oh well, at least they didn't die starving.



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PS. From tatzhit:



1. I assume he got the pics from cell phones of dead/captured insurgents



2. Here's another recent translation that GD liked, if someone missed it:

Equipment of a modern militiaman fighting in UA civil war - with pics and description

Link Posted: 1/29/2016 9:42:15 PM EDT
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Awesome reading.  
Link Posted: 1/29/2016 9:42:36 PM EDT
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Tag, thanks for the post.
Link Posted: 1/29/2016 9:44:16 PM EDT
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So when its time to do gangsta shit, you gotta prep for it with caches.  Got it.
Link Posted: 1/29/2016 9:45:15 PM EDT
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Interesting.  Keep them coming.
Link Posted: 1/29/2016 9:45:30 PM EDT
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Good post. Arfcom is best.

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Partly this post IS for the guys who say "if Obama goes for my guns, I'm going rogue".


The above is what "going rogue" looks like.






PS. Although, as discussed in the civil war thread, my personal opinion is that US is still at least a decade out from a civil war. However, people in USSR thought so too...





 
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Partly this post IS for the guys who say "if Obama goes for my guns, I'm going rogue".
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PS. Although, as discussed in the civil war thread, my personal opinion is that US is still at least a decade out from a civil war. Although, people in USSR thought so too...
 
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So when its time to do gangsta shit, you gotta prep for it with caches.  Got it.

Partly this post IS for the guys who say "if Obama goes for my guns, I'm going rogue".
The above is what "going rogue" looks like.


PS. Although, as discussed in the civil war thread, my personal opinion is that US is still at least a decade out from a civil war. Although, people in USSR thought so too...
 


Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to be snarky or disrespectful.  I liked what you had to share.
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So when its time to do gangsta shit, you gotta prep for it with caches.  Got it.


Partly this post IS for the guys who say "if Obama goes for my guns, I'm going rogue".

The above is what "going rogue" looks like.




PS. Although, as discussed in the civil war thread, my personal opinion is that US is still at least a decade out from a civil war. Although, people in USSR thought so too...

 




Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to be snarky or disrespectful.  I liked what you had to share.


Oh no, no problem at all, sorry if I sounded rude or offended.

The bold part was mostly so other people would notice, since I didn't put that part into OP.



 
Link Posted: 1/29/2016 9:54:38 PM EDT
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do you know the author or just something you stumbled upon?
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Partly this post IS for the guys who say "if Obama goes for my guns, I'm going rogue".
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PS. Although, as discussed in the civil war thread, my personal opinion is that US is still at least a decade out from a civil war. Although, people in USSR thought so too...
 
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Partly this post IS for the guys who say "if Obama goes for my guns, I'm going rogue".
The above is what "going rogue" looks like.


PS. Although, as discussed in the civil war thread, my personal opinion is that US is still at least a decade out from a civil war. Although, people in USSR thought so too...
 



Did you follow the Eric Frein manhunt? Did you see the amount of resources it took to catch one guy? If even 50 guys in one state went "rogue" it would require an insane amount of resources to catch them.
Link Posted: 1/29/2016 9:58:31 PM EDT
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I enjoy your posts, OP. Keep ones like this and your recent one about the one fighter's gear load out coming.





Edit: Because lessons to be learned here.

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Stumbled upon. I could write to the author and get a response, and I may know someone who knows him, but I'm pretty content just reading his posts.
FYI I do "pro-Russian troll" stuff as a hobby, so that's why I see a lot of Russian blogs and such (here's my liveleak).




I think I'm doing us all a favor by explaining the current US foreign policy&understanding of certain conflicts is miguided in a number of ways, some people may disagree, but I haven't seen a convincing counter-argument yet.






I don't discuss those issues a whole lot on here because I don't have the time & ready articles to explain it well, plus most people don't particularly care about Russian and Ukrainian internal politics, so it would be a waste of time for everyone involved.






I will do "Ask a Putin's troll anything" sometime in the future.
 
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Partly this post IS for the guys who say "if Obama goes for my guns, I'm going rogue".
The above is what "going rogue" looks like.


PS. Although, as discussed in the civil war thread, my personal opinion is that US is still at least a decade out from a civil war. However, people in USSR thought so too...
 
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So when its time to do gangsta shit, you gotta prep for it with caches.  Got it.

Partly this post IS for the guys who say "if Obama goes for my guns, I'm going rogue".
The above is what "going rogue" looks like.


PS. Although, as discussed in the civil war thread, my personal opinion is that US is still at least a decade out from a civil war. However, people in USSR thought so too...
 


Shit, I'll be in my 50's in a decade. This is gonna suck.
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So when its time to do gangsta shit, you gotta prep for it with caches.  Got it.


Partly this post IS for the guys who say "if Obama goes for my guns, I'm going rogue".

The above is what "going rogue" looks like.




PS. Although, as discussed in the civil war thread, my personal opinion is that US is still at least a decade out from a civil war. Although, people in USSR thought so too...

 






Did you follow the Eric Frein manhunt? Did you see the amount of resources it took to catch one guy? If even 50 guys in one state went "rogue" it would require an insane amount of resources to catch them.



Oh, I'm not denying it's real easy to screw stuff up. Syria was blown up by what, couple thousand insurgents? I'm not a specialist on that conflict, but it was a ridiculously small number. Ditto for Ukraine, Strelkov changed the war from "sure defeat" to "standstill" with his force of 52 guys with AKs, not even a single mg between them.



I'm just saying insurgent's life sucks.



 
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Great info, thanks.
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This^^^^^^^^^^ thanks for sharing Op...
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Partly this post IS for the guys who say "if Obama goes for my guns, I'm going rogue".

The above is what "going rogue" looks like.




PS. Although, as discussed in the civil war thread, my personal opinion is that US is still at least a decade out from a civil war. However, people in USSR thought so too...

 
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So when its time to do gangsta shit, you gotta prep for it with caches.  Got it.


Partly this post IS for the guys who say "if Obama goes for my guns, I'm going rogue".

The above is what "going rogue" looks like.




PS. Although, as discussed in the civil war thread, my personal opinion is that US is still at least a decade out from a civil war. However, people in USSR thought so too...

 
Compared to current state Russia/Ukraine, what makes you think ten years?



 
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Great reading!!
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Compared to current state Russia/Ukraine, what makes you think ten years?

 
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So when its time to do gangsta shit, you gotta prep for it with caches.  Got it.


Partly this post IS for the guys who say "if Obama goes for my guns, I'm going rogue".

The above is what "going rogue" looks like.




PS. Although, as discussed in the civil war thread, my personal opinion is that US is still at least a decade out from a civil war. However, people in USSR thought so too...

 
Compared to current state Russia/Ukraine, what makes you think ten years?

 


I said "at least". It may be twenty, hundred, may be more.



I have an interest in civil wars, and one thing it taught me is that sh*t can go downhill real quick, and it's rather unpredictable. I'd estimate the chance of a civil war within the next 10 years at 15%, within the next 20 at 30%. But then, I'm just pulling numbers out of my *ss, and also I'm biased due to reading about various civil wars so much.



Just as examples:

Population voted by an overwhelming margin to PRESERVE the USSR. Sh*t still went downhill.

Libya was the best country in Africa, bar none - far higher standard of living. Sh*t still went downhill.

In Ukraine, anyone with half a brain could see that a victory by "Eurointegrators" is gonna ruin the country, for basic economic reasons. Sh*t still went downhill.

 



I suppose you could blame US State Dept for some of the above, but there are just as many cases where outside influences weren't that strong, and country still collapsed. Plus it's not like there is any shortage of outside forces that dislike the US.

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If it happens in the U.S., it won't be because the right wing lit it off. There is quite possibly nothing the left has left to do at this point

that wouldn't we wouldn't go along with.  Just because of our higher standards of living.  No one is willing to give up the soft living in exchange for the

bullshit you see those bastards living with.



Also from the photos, looks like they are really letting their love of Allah get them one hell of a butt-fucking during this lifetime. I believe I'd

convert to worshiping a stronger God that didn't require so much suffering. Enjoying the photos, please keep them coming.
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tag for later
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God, I love my wife.



She just read some of this over my shoulder and said "fuck those guys, good hunting".




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OP, how close are you to the region?
Link Posted: 1/29/2016 11:30:33 PM EDT
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This line struck me.

"Actually, this lifestyle is what prevents many potential militants from going into the forest. Those that leave are usually already involved, and flee to the country when they realize they're about to get nabbed. At this point, their choices are limited - prison, or a dugout."

Or option C - Flee and seek refuge in Germany.
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Very interesting. Thanks for posting. Are you Russian? I see your profile says FL, but I was wondering since this and your other thread say that you translated the text.
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Interesting.
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I lived roughly half my life in Russia and ex-USSR. I'm not ethnically Russian, but culturally, yes.
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Partly this post IS for the guys who say "if Obama goes for my guns, I'm going rogue".
The above is what "going rogue" looks like.


PS. Although, as discussed in the civil war thread, my personal opinion is that US is still at least a decade out from a civil war. However, people in USSR thought so too...
 
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So when its time to do gangsta shit, you gotta prep for it with caches.  Got it.

Partly this post IS for the guys who say "if Obama goes for my guns, I'm going rogue".
The above is what "going rogue" looks like.


PS. Although, as discussed in the civil war thread, my personal opinion is that US is still at least a decade out from a civil war. However, people in USSR thought so too...
 


Not necessarily.  There are a lot of ways and means to "go rogue".  The best way is to hide in plain sight.
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Thread of the day,thanks i enjoyed reading this
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Caucasus? Not very. I have an interest in civil wars there, but I've never been closer than ~300 miles to Ingushetia or Chechnya.



Russia/Ukraine? Suffice to say I try to support some humanitarian aid volunteers in the UA civil war area, talk to some sources/journalists on the ground, and report on the overall geopolitics.
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Thanks OP.
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Another great Tatzhit post. Thanks for sharing!
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Interesting post OP. Thanks for putting it together.

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If it happens in the U.S., it won't be because the right wing lit it off. There is quite possibly nothing the left has left to do at this point





that wouldn't we wouldn't go along with.  Just because of our higher standards of living.  No one is willing to give up the soft living in exchange for the





bullshit you see those bastards living with.
Also from the photos, looks like they are really letting their love of Allah get them one hell of a butt-fucking during this lifetime. I believe I'd





convert to worshiping a stronger God that didn't require so much suffering. Enjoying the photos, please keep them coming.
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(Sorry to default to Ukraine/East Europe for examples again, it's just because that is something I know very well and can describe easily):






"Easterners" in Ukraine put up with enormous amount of BS.
They put up with Russian being considered a foreign language, despite 83% of population speaking Russian as primary (*2012 Gallup data).





They put up with Nazi collaborators being glorified as "true Ukrainian heroes", despite the fact that ~20x more Ukrainians fought against the Nazis in the Red Army, and the fact that Bandera's followers were heavily involved in genocide.





They even put up with the first Maidan coup in 2005 (similar to Bush-Gore election, only in Ukraine, the "Westerners" actually staged mass riots in the capital and forced the government to change the election result).
Then, the "Westerners" tried to boil the frog too quickly, overthrew the government, and went to take over Eastern areas by force. Boom, civil war time. And this is despite the fact "Easterners" were essentially unorganized (basically, the "pro-Russian" president didn't want any competition and persecuted Eastern nationalist organizations rather heavily).
Essentially, the same "depends on how quickly you boil the frog" deal happened in a lot of post-Soviet countries. Especially Georgia and Moldova are very characteristic here, because civil war was avoided in some districts (Adjaria, Gagauzia), but not in others (Abkhazia/Ossetia, Transnistria), depending on how stupidly did the nationalists act towards each specific region.
So, I would say that the following hypothetical scenario is most likely for the US:





1. The liberal FSA overthrows the government and/or starts a civil war (revolutions are always started by the FSA - could be some sort of "make America great again/white power" crowd too, but as you said that seems real unlikely).





2. Right-wingers are naturally pulled onto the other side





3. The place turns into Kosovo










 
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Vatnik?putin is a terrible prezident. Had a good start in 00--04 and then went downhill with corruption




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One man's "insurgent" is another man's "freedom fighter."

After reading the text, I found myself rooting for the insurgents.


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Putin is a pretty bad president... and anyone who could replace him is likely worse.
I mean, can you imagine a loser like Yavlinski as head of state? Not to mention anyone from the current crop of liberals, who can not even organize signature collection for local elections?



And someone like Strelkov or (now dead) Mozgovoi... I have a lot of respect for these people - regardless of whether one agrees with their politics, they are undoubtedly heroes. But their first order of business would probably be to target all available nukes to USA, then keep building more 24/7. I mean, Russia regaining its former glory is great and all, but I would kinda hope there would be a mutually beneficial way to go about it.








What's the way forward for Russia? ... No one knows, why should I be any different? I can only tell you Ukrainian or Latvian scenario is NOT the way.







3) What are the political systems of Ukraine, Russia, and US, and why "bringing democracy” rarely works
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[#41]
lol
Link Posted: 1/30/2016 4:50:46 AM EDT
[#42]
Interesting read.
Link Posted: 1/30/2016 4:59:07 AM EDT
[#43]
They are some really twisted and brainwashed motherfuckers. There is no rehab for such stupid. Wiping them out is the only way. That or welfare in Germany.
Link Posted: 1/30/2016 5:23:35 AM EDT
[#44]
Link Posted: 1/30/2016 5:48:25 AM EDT
[#45]

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One man's "insurgent" is another man's "freedom fighter."



After reading the text, I found myself rooting for the insurgents.





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I dunno, when you are fighting for a caliphate, calling yourself a freedom fighter seems like an oxymoron.



 
Link Posted: 1/30/2016 6:22:57 AM EDT
[#46]
Hmmm. I wonder how many comments the OP has left in the comments section of youtube videos over the years comparing Russian military hardware to US made stuff?
Link Posted: 1/30/2016 6:36:28 AM EDT
[#47]
Nice article
Link Posted: 1/30/2016 7:15:59 AM EDT
[#48]
I can't help thinking of Vietnam, rat tunnels, rice for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and B-52's
Link Posted: 1/30/2016 8:12:51 AM EDT
[#49]




Thanks OP.  Keep em coming.  


P.S.  I don't care to delve into the politics either, the stories read well as is.  Don't let GD troll you in that direction.  




Link Posted: 1/30/2016 8:16:59 AM EDT
[#50]
Not to derail the thread or anything.

Check this book out...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1450574289?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00

Was given this book by an old site supervisor.
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