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8/16/2011 9:12:56 PM EDT
I'm about to receive a 9mm AR pistol that I plan on turning into a SBR. So I have to have a 9mm hammer to avoid having to modify the bolt in the 9mm AR I got that part.  My question is if I swap to a 556 upper will I have to swap the hammer as well or will the 9mm hammer function fine with the 556  upper?
Thanks in advance
8/17/2011 9:38:52 AM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
I'm about to receive a 9mm AR pistol that I plan on turning into a SBR. So I have to have a 9mm hammer to avoid having to modify the bolt in the 9mm AR I got that part.  My question is if I swap to a 556 upper will I have to swap the hammer as well or will the 9mm hammer function fine with the 556  upper?
Thanks in advance


No, you'll be fine. There is technically no such thing as a 9mm hammer. A "9mm hammer" is the same as a full auto hammer except the sear hook is removed. The semi hammer is generally notched and auto hammers are rounded at the top. 9mm's use the rounded hammers which are original m16/ar15 equipment and work just fine. Since the hook is removed, you're good to go legally as well.
8/17/2011 10:07:49 AM EDT
[#2]
If you get the 9mm hammer with double notch it will not work with 223 bolts.



Well the red x dosent do much good so check out Rock River 9mm hammers.
8/17/2011 1:28:19 PM EDT
[#3]
Two more days till I get it in hand and I will check it out then.
Thanks for the replies
8/18/2011 5:32:03 AM EDT
[#4]
ryknoll3 is misinformed and hitman is correct. Colt does make a 9mm-only hammer which will not work with a .223 carrier.

But ryknoll is correct that the better way to go is to use either a neutered M16 hammer or an un-notched AR15 hammer. The DPMS hammer works just fine for this purpose.

You might reconsider getting your bolt ramped. This is done not for hammer compatibility, but to reduce the stresses put on the hammer pin and the pin holes in your receiver. Hammer compatibility is just a bonus.

eta:

9mm hammer.  Works with the standard 9mm bolt.  Reportedly does not work with a .223/5.56 carrier (I've never tried).


Rounded AR15 hammer on left - works with everything.  Notched AR15 hammer on right.  Only works with .223/5.56 bolt carrier.
8/18/2011 5:06:33 PM EDT
[#5]
1 hammer for all your AR-15 semi-auto shoot'n  happiness,  and have somebody cut bottom of 9mm bolt and all is well







8/18/2011 6:17:33 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
ryknoll3 is misinformed and hitman is correct. Colt does make a 9mm-only hammer which will not work with a .223 carrier.

But ryknoll is correct that the better way to go is to use either a neutered M16 hammer or an un-notched AR15 hammer. The DPMS hammer works just fine for this purpose.

You might reconsider getting your bolt ramped. This is done not for hammer compatibility, but to reduce the stresses put on the hammer pin and the pin holes in your receiver. Hammer compatibility is just a bonus.

eta:

9mm hammer.  Works with the standard 9mm bolt.  Reportedly does not work with a .223/5.56 carrier (I've never tried).
http://www.rainierarms.com/img/shop/product/3f310c7fbe3f9609d012aacd352e3e8e.jpg

Rounded AR15 hammer on left - works with everything.  Notched AR15 hammer on right.  Only works with .223/5.56 bolt carrier.
http://www.jabtac.com/store/images/Hammers.jpg


Oops, never seen that one before. Sorry for the misinformation. Learn something new all the time. I love the Class 3 boards! =)
8/18/2011 11:52:51 PM EDT
[#7]


I thought I read on m60 joe's site that he does NOT ramp 9mm bolts.



Is this true? if so who does?

8/19/2011 12:52:28 AM EDT
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Quoted:





I thought I read on m60 joe's site that he does NOT ramp 9mm bolts.





Is this true? if so who does?








He still does them - http://users.zoominternet.net/~picplace/bolt%20ramping.htm





Board member MGP also does them - VERY nice work.
 
 
8/19/2011 2:28:00 AM EDT
[#9]




Quoted:





Quoted:



I thought I read on m60 joe's site that he does NOT ramp 9mm Semi-auto bolts.



Is this true? if so who does?





He still does them - http://users.zoominternet.net/~picplace/bolt%20ramping.htm



Board member MGP also does them - VERY nice work.







Whoops I ment to say semi-auto carriers.



from Joe's site at the bottom.



Semi Auto 9mm Bolt


I will not ramp semi-auto bolts



NFA Rules Apply



Why is that?????







thanks



8/19/2011 2:50:57 AM EDT
[#10]
Disregard the comment at JOES' site... "semi-auto" bolt you will not see today...  COLT factory oddity from back in the '80s found i na handfull of factory COLT 9mm rifle.

Current crop of COLT pattern bolt as sold by various vendor since at least 2003 or earlier are of the M16 compatable flavor.
8/19/2011 7:27:40 AM EDT
[#11]
ADCO will ramp it for you.

www.adcofirearms.com/
8/19/2011 12:29:09 PM EDT
[#12]
Yup, semi bolts are very rare. Here's what they look like, compared to the full-auto bolt on the left which is currently used in all production 9mm ARs:

8/19/2011 2:22:51 PM EDT
[#13]
FWIW... I prefer the ramp 'angle' done by m60joe and MGP over the ADCO ramped bolt.



YMMV
8/19/2011 5:44:24 PM EDT
[#14]
thanks all, I did not think my Semi SBR would have an Auto carrier....



O21 why the preference??
8/20/2011 1:08:10 AM EDT
[#15]
I was subjected to a timing SNAFU yesterday and have to wait until the fun shop opens today to get my new acquisitions and I will see what I'm working with then.
8/20/2011 1:14:03 AM EDT
[#16]



Quoted:


thanks all, I did not think my Semi SBR would have an Auto carrier....



O21 why the preference??
I just prefer the lower angle of the MPG done bolt.









ADCO done bolt.







 
8/20/2011 2:12:46 AM EDT
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Quoted:





Quoted:

thanks all, I did not think my Semi SBR would have an Auto carrier....



O21 why the preference??
I just prefer the lower angle of the MPG done bolt.



http://i41.tinypic.com/23saph.jpg





ADCO done bolt.



http://i43.tinypic.com/235u34.jpg



Those photos do infact volumes. Thanks
8/20/2011 10:02:36 PM EDT
[#18]
It looks like I have the rounded hammer so I'm set there.  The member I got it from said it runs fine..... It's dirty and dry so I think I'm going to take that with a grain of salt.  The bolt is not ramped so I'll look in to taking care of that in the near future.
8/24/2011 12:42:52 AM EDT
[#19]




Quoted:





Quoted:

thanks all, I did not think my Semi SBR would have an Auto carrier....



O21 why the preference??
I just prefer the lower angle of the MPG done bolt.



http://i41.tinypic.com/23saph.jpg





ADCO done bolt.



http://i43.tinypic.com/235u34.jpg



My Adco ramped bolt looks like the top pic.

8/25/2011 12:59:23 PM EDT
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