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How i built my own rotary tumbler (Page 30 of 31)
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Originally Posted By nfafun:
+2 Yeah, very nice construction. But finding 8" PVC and fittings are difficult. Where's the magical place for this? Originally Posted By nfafun:
Originally Posted By kaskillo:
Originally Posted By ctrmass:
Where are you guys finding 8" pipe locally? +1 +2 Yeah, very nice construction. But finding 8" PVC and fittings are difficult. Where's the magical place for this? Check with local excavating companies is the best bet for 8" pipe. They probably have the fittings on hand, or can get them for you. Most of them will keep pieces of pipe 3' or more as it can be handy to use on a job instead of cutting up a full piece for a 2' piece. |
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I have had no luck finding 8 inch pipe or fittings locally. I ordered my 8 inch SDR pipe from Keith Specialty Store.
It is cut to length at $6.52 a foot. I bought a 4 foot non-belled piece. http://keithspecialty.com/dwv.gasketed_sewer_main.htm The SDR fittings and rubber cap, I bought online from Simply Plumbing. http://www.simplyplumbing.com/ |
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for those looking for 8" sdr pipe, check with your local plumber or utiility supply companies. I buy my stuff at a utility equipment supply company, they stock the pipe and fittings. it is sewer pipe or sdr35.
trying to find the fittings online has got hard so i don't even try anymore. my local guy treats me right. if you can't get a small piece from them ask them who are some of their customers and you can check with them for some scraps. |
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But for anyone having no luck finding 8" PVC after trying their local plumber or utiility supply companies like me (Grainger, Furgeson), FYI - I had to go with amazon for my fittings and with flea bay for my PVC pipe (I chose Schedule 40). Not the cheapest route, but at least it's good quality for the money.
8" inch diameter schedule 40 pvc pipe solid core (per 1foot length): http://ebay.to/18rwI6d 8" x 6" Reducing Coupling Hub, Spears P102 Series PVC DWV Pipe Fitting: http://amzn.to/1GyknZg 8" Schedule 40 PVC Cap: Spears 447-080: flea bay |
Finished mine last weekend. Painted the frame and drum with rust-oleum bed liner paint. I am using a 1/4 hp motor running 1750 RPM. The rubber feet are $4.22 from Amazon. It comes in a package of 8 with a 1/4" diameter hole. Bought the stainless steel pins from guntap.com with free shipping. Everything else is pretty much is what the OP is using. This is my first welding project. I am better at grinding than welding at this point.
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Still have a bit of work to do but the prototype seems to be working out well.
$35 for wiper motor Had the dry wall mud bucket laying around. Its heavier wall (90 mil) than the Homer Buckets (70 mil) $5 bucks in nuts and bolts Scrap plywood and sheet metal $5 for Homer bucket and lid 
Video DIY Wet TUmbler - Wiper Motor - 5 gallon buckets Still need to add an agitator and gamma lid per jacobsk on page 28. Wire up the old computer power supply to feed 12v to the wiper motor Ultimately I'll weld up a metal frame. Wanted to get the dimensions figured out but I think it will work as is. |
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Originally Posted By aleaddict:
Thanks to BIGDAWG and Kaldor for the inspiration. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gLZYa5sVhVM/VT01Sq7L_UI/AAAAAAAALsU/eWWK81-UOR0/w816-h1450-no/20150426_115445.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-BJaZBLXvOAo/VT01jNLBp1I/AAAAAAAALto/J4pazWK67Tc/w816-h1450-no/20150426_115721.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/46ohYmplRZhjBajylHEEGZVOC5gwbnTEiJlDlZ43LNE=w420-h454-p-no https://youtu.be/X6-CFeDnyWA No problem. I prefer the vertical design a little better because it saves space on my shelf. Looked at the video, how many RPM you spinning on the drum? |
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Originally Posted By Kaldor:
No problem. I prefer the vertical design a little better because it saves space on my shelf. Looked at the video, how many RPM you spinning on the drum? I'm spinning at 70 rpm using a 1-3/4" x 5" pulley setup. I may need to go 5-1/2" to slow it down a bit. I can't thank you enough for your help, Kaldor. I still need to add a timer and some rubber foot pads but its gtg at this point. |
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Originally Posted By aleaddict:
I'm spinning at 70 rpm using a 1-3/4" x 5" pulley setup. I may need to go 5-1/2" to slow it down a bit. I can't thank you enough for your help, Kaldor. I still need to add a timer and some rubber foot pads but its gtg at this point. Originally Posted By aleaddict:
Originally Posted By Kaldor:
No problem. I prefer the vertical design a little better because it saves space on my shelf. Looked at the video, how many RPM you spinning on the drum? I'm spinning at 70 rpm using a 1-3/4" x 5" pulley setup. I may need to go 5-1/2" to slow it down a bit. I can't thank you enough for your help, Kaldor. I still need to add a timer and some rubber foot pads but its gtg at this point. 70 RPM is fine. I think Im at 68-69 RPM, as are most of the other guys on this post. Most are running 1.5" on the motor and driving a 4". Im assuming you looked at my Google+ account? You can see that my design isnt perfect, but for now its good enough. |
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The 1/3rd hp motor has a 5/8" shank so a 1-3/4" drive pulley was the smallest I could find. There was a tiny leak between the drum and end cap that I fixed with some silicone adhesive. At this point I'm just waiting on the stainless pins before running my first batch of brass.
Not a lot of pictures but here are the highlights... Link to Wet Brass Tumbler album |
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Originally Posted By aleaddict:
The 1/3rd hp motor has a 5/8" shank so a 1-3/4" drive pulley was the smallest I could find. There was a tiny leak between the drum and end cap that I fixed with some silicone adhesive. At this point I'm just waiting on the stainless pins before running my first batch of brass. Not a lot of pictures but here are the highlights... Link to Wet Brass Tumbler album Gotcha. Looks good man. I wanted to use rollerblade wheels too, but I got ahead of myself, and ended up having to use the mini bearings for guides. I just put a little moly grease on them from time to time. I had a small leak on one my drums. I ended up using a syringe and needle, and just injected glue around the entire joint of the pipe. Any idea on how many pounds of pins youll need? I run 7.5 lbs per drum now, which does seem to clean stuff a little faster. You might need as much as 15 for a single large drum like that. |
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I just finished reading this entire thread to this point. I spent up to an hour a day for the past 3 weeks.
I had already built my BigDawg inspired tumbler last Oct, and have may thousands of rounds of brass through it. Did discover a few things in the thread that will help me. and make my cleaning more efficient, so the read was worth it. Here is my addition. Many user's complained about difficulty gluing the ends on, or having leaks after they where glued on. I'm sure most of you know this, but for those that don't, here is the trick. Use only PVC Solvent to glue PVC to PVC. Use cleaner, purple or clear makes no difference on BOTH pieces, the pipe and the inside of the fitting. After using the cleaner per instructions, LIBERALLY coat the pipe and the inside of the fitting with the solvent. Now here is the trick; TWIST the pieces as you put the fitting on the pipe. This distributes the solvent on both pieces, and creates a leak proof seal. It also fills the screw holes where you mounted the inside paddles. For most of you, this is probably a no brainer.  But it was obvious when reading 7 or 8 pages a day, that some were not familiar with gluing PVC together, and, I saw no instructions more specific than put solvent on both pieces.
Happy Tumbling! |
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Originally Posted By Jimk60:
I just finished reading this entire thread to this point. I spent up to an hour a day for the past 3 weeks. I had already built my BigDawg inspired tumbler last Oct, and have may thousands of rounds of brass through it. Did discover a few things in the thread that will help me. and make my cleaning more efficient, so the read was worth it. Here is my addition. Many user's complained about difficulty gluing the ends on, or having leaks after they where glued on. I'm sure most of you know this, but for those that don't, here is the trick. Use only PVC Solvent to glue PVC to PVC. Use cleaner, purple or clear makes no difference on BOTH pieces, the pipe and the inside of the fitting. After using the cleaner per instructions, LIBERALLY coat the pipe and the inside of the fitting with the solvent. Now here is the trick; TWIST the pieces as you put the fitting on the pipe. This distributes the solvent on both pieces, and creates a leak proof seal. It also fills the screw holes where you mounted the inside paddles. For most of you, this is probably a no brainer. But it was obvious when reading 7 or 8 pages a day, that some were not familiar with gluing PVC together, and, I saw no instructions more specific than put solvent on both pieces.
Happy Tumbling! I learned that the hard way when I had a drum that leaked just a little. Ended up fixing it with a small syringe and basically injected the glue into the leak. Also, dry fit the ends. Make sure they will fit snugly, and all the way in. Dont ask me how I learned that... 
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Originally Posted By Dourtyb:
Still have a bit of work to do but the prototype seems to be working out well. $35 for wiper motor Had the dry wall mud bucket laying around. Its heavier wall (90 mil) than the Homer Buckets (70 mil) $5 bucks in nuts and bolts Scrap plywood and sheet metal $5 for Homer bucket and lid Where'd you buy the wiper motor? I'm not a high volume shooter, so a smaller .5-.75 gallon container with a direct drive would be great for my needs. |
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Originally Posted By corruptor:
Where'd you buy the wiper motor? I'm not a high volume shooter, so a smaller .5-.75 gallon container with a direct drive would be great for my needs. Originally Posted By corruptor:
Originally Posted By Dourtyb:
Still have a bit of work to do but the prototype seems to be working out well. $35 for wiper motor Had the dry wall mud bucket laying around. Its heavier wall (90 mil) than the Homer Buckets (70 mil) $5 bucks in nuts and bolts Scrap plywood and sheet metal $5 for Homer bucket and lid Where'd you buy the wiper motor? I'm not a high volume shooter, so a smaller .5-.75 gallon container with a direct drive would be great for my needs. Parts store, but Id start with the junkyard to be honest. |
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Originally Posted By Kaldor:
Parts store, but Id start with the junkyard to be honest. New they're too expensive, so it does need to be a used piece. Unfortunately, there are so many different types of motor with all kinds of different specs, and they're not really listed by those specs, only by car manufacturer, model, and year. I'm hoping he's got a specific model, part number, or source for the motor, otherwise it's just gonna be a gamble. |
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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!
Lemishine Original is no more. 
But; they have a current product called Lemishine BOOSTER. I called Lemishine corporate offices, and they confirmed that BOOSTER is the exact same formula, just renamed. Same shape container, but is now green instead of red. |
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I spent a lot of time going through this thread and with the Lowes online store to find the right fittings for the 6 inch tumbler barrel. Below are the correct item numbers to purchase at Lowes.
6 inch cap - 122863 6X4 reducer - 182570 6 inch X 2 ft PVC - 110875 I would have purchased the 4" rubber cap from Lowes, however, the only one in the bin was missing the hose clamp. So I got mine at HD. Maybe this will save someone some time. |
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well I F up the fins trying to cut a 2 inch PVC pipe in half, I looked at most of the pictures, how did everyone cut the PVC in half? I saw a table saw and bloody fingers so any other suggestions?  I used a grinder with a cut off wheel and it went through it like butter but it cut it in 1/3 and 2/3 pcs  it def was operator errormaybe I will try again and draw a line to follow? |
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actually thought of a better idea, BD posted a picture of some strips of plastic glued to his jar, I am going to bolt some 1/4 inch pvc pcs to the green pipe, that should work, probably not as well as the "fins" but i ruined the 2 foot PVC pipe already and I have the other pipe laying in the garage. I will post pix of the set up later.... |
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Finally got mine off the bench, it took way too long to acquire a section of sched 40 6" PVC.
I had bought fittings off of lowes that were 6" PVC sewer drain cleanout, only problem was the size was not the same it was way larger. So (March 8, 2015) I ordered another cleanout set from amazon that was listed as fitting the green sewer pipe....didnt fit and I wasnt smart enough to check it before becoming the owner of another set of useless fittings. I had to shelf it when I struck out twice and just wait for the right size pipe to come up. Didnt have to buy the pipe which was alright by me. This week my father was able to obtain sched 40 from one of his plumbing contractors and I was able to pick it up, got everything glued together and went to test it for leaks  . I tried everything to keep it from leaking, made my own O-rings (they werent available when I bought them in march-making these is easy and the oring material is cheaper for custom orings) and spacers and I silliconed it in but didnt wait the full 24 hrs for cure so i get to do it again.
It does work, but I need to add the walking bearing to keep it from rubbing on the pillow block bearings face. Also had to add skate tape to the barrel to keep it from slipping. My first go around with brass I forgot to add dish soap cases were black, 30 mins after adding dawn they were almost perfect. Word to the wise, buy a sorter/sifter and bin before tumbling and have a nice clean place to do this in. (Didnt cross my mind until I played pick up pins).
Originally Posted By kmitchl:
I spent a lot of time going through this thread and with the Lowes online store to find the right fittings for the 6 inch tumbler barrel. Below are the correct item numbers to purchase at Lowes. 6 inch cap - 122863 6X4 reducer - 182570 6 inch X 2 ft PVC - 110875 I would have purchased the 4" rubber cap from Lowes, however, the only one in the bin was missing the hose clamp. So I got mine at HD. Maybe this will save someone some time. Originally Posted By kmitchl:
I spent a lot of time going through this thread and with the Lowes online store to find the right fittings for the 6 inch tumbler barrel. Below are the correct item numbers to purchase at Lowes. 6 inch cap - 122863 6X4 reducer - 182570 6 inch X 2 ft PVC - 110875 I would have purchased the 4" rubber cap from Lowes, however, the only one in the bin was missing the hose clamp. So I got mine at HD. Maybe this will save someone some time. That would have helped me a long time ago. Ill try this route again, I can't afford to drop $25 for a single fitting, again. Originally Posted By H48R:
I have had no luck finding 8 inch pipe or fittings locally. I ordered my 8 inch SDR pipe from Keith Specialty Store. It is cut to length at $6.52 a foot. I bought a 4 foot non-belled piece. http://keithspecialty.com/dwv.gasketed_sewer_main.htm The SDR fittings and rubber cap, I bought online from Simply Plumbing. http://www.simplyplumbing.com/ nice, thanks for the info! |
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So, after reading this thread, I got a wild hair yesterday. A couple of weeks ago I bought an old, never used ice cream freezer for $1.00. It was kind of rusty, but I noticed the part that moves is just the right sizer for a 3/4" bolt head. Hmmm. A 2X4, some scrap plywood, and a trip to Menards for a piece of sewer pipe, a couple fittings, and some cheap caster wheels, and I screwed this together.
Did I mention I'm a cheap bastard? 
A standard 9" long container with a bolt stuck in the end to drive it. 
And I got this in about 2 1/2 hours, with no pins yet. 
It took 3 batches to dry them in my 2 shelf powder coat baking toaster oven. The wife was using the big one for a roast. Sorry for the A-potato pics. It turns at about 40 RPM. The outside of the cases look good, but next paycheck I will buy pins to clean the inside and primer pockets. I have about $50.00? total in it. I already had wood and cement and screws and such. I only shoot a couple hundred rounds a month, so this should work for quite a while. If the frame falls apart I'll weld one up with angle, but I was too lazy to try to round some up. And also, I'm cheap. And Target has Lemi-Shine, if you happen to need it and that is where the wife ended up. |
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I didn't look through the entire 60 page thread, so I apologize if this has been covered.
Has anyone used an end cap like this? Gripper Plug |
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Originally Posted By BIGGDAWG:
yes those plugs work i know a few guys using them. How convenient with you showing up
I'm just trying to increase my productivity time. 
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