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Posted: 6/4/2003 12:49:37 PM EDT
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[b][blue]I noticed there wasnt any real discussion of this on this board and I found that the pics are very helpful. All of this came from the [url]http://www.simonov.net[/url] website.[/b][/blue] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [size=5][red][b][u]Russian[/size=5][/red][/b][/u] [img]http://www.simonov.net/images/FAQ/49tula/refurb.jpg[/img] This marking signifies the Russian SKS was refurbished. [img]http://www.simonov.net/images/FAQ/identify/tula.jpg[/img] TULA (1949 - 1955) [img]http://www.simonov.net/images/FAQ/identify/izh.jpg[/img] IZHEVSK (1953 - 1954) [i]"Look on the top of the receiver cover. If the cover has no markings, it's not likely to be Russian. The pictured symbols are present on Russian receiver covers. Suppose the original receiver cover has been lost at one time in the past. It is still possible to identify Russian SKS's as they have a communist star on the left side of the receiver and usually have one or two Cyrillic letters in the serial number. Sometimes "RUSSIA SKS-45" is prominently stamped on the receiver by the importer. Furthermore, it is a common trait of Russian SKS's to have black bolt carriers and/or bayonets. All Russians Simonovs have blade bayonets except the earliest Tulas. One will commonly see a square with a diagonal line through it on the receiver cover."[/i] [size=5][Orange][b][u]CHINA[/size=5][/orange][/b][/u] [img]http://www.simonov.net/images/FAQ/identify/china.jpg[/img] CHINA (1956 - 1980's) The Chinese characters roughly translate to "Type 56 Carbine" [blue]Click the link below to see comprehensive printable charts of Chinese factory codes.[/blue] [url=http://www.simonov.net/codechart.htm]SKS CHRONICLE'S CHINESE FACTORY CODES PAGE[/url] [size=5][yellow][b][u]Romania[/size=5][/yellow][/b][/u] [img]http://www.simonov.net/images/FAQ/identify/romania.jpg[/img] ROMANIA (1957 - 1962) [i]"I was once believed that Romania did not manufacture the SKS carbine. If a rifle were discovered in the past with the Romanian stamp, it was assumed the rifle was Chinese because the firing pin on the two rifles look very similar. Mr. Poyer, co-author of The SKS Carbine, writes in the recently published Guns and Ammo Surplus Firearms #7 annual magazine about his surprise when he eventually did confirm Romania's involvement in SKS manufacture. Both he and his co-author were told by the Romainan embassy in Washington D.C. that NO SKS carbines were EVER manufactured in that country. Since these rifles are rather new on the U.S. SKS market, not much else is known about them at this time. The most interesting aspect of Romanian SKS's is the year it started production. One year after the Chinese began manufacturing SKS's, the Romanians started their production. Now I'm curious to know the start date of Yugoslavian production. Did the Russian technicians do a "road tour" of newly emerging communist countries starting SKS production plants to shore up the governments of these new allies?"[/i] |
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[size=5][green][b][u]YUGOSLAVIA[/size=5][/green][/b][/u] [img]http://www.simonov.net/images/FAQ/identify/YugoM66.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.simonov.net/images/FAQ/identify/yugoid.JPG[/img] Yugoslavian M59/66 with night sights. [i]"These can be the easiest to identify. Does it have a grenade launcher and ladder sight on the muzzle? If so, it is a M59/66. Yugoslavia is the only country that produced these weapons with the grenade adapter starting in 1966. Mind you, there are Yugoslavian SKS's made from 1959-1965, which are identical to Romanian SKS, that do not have a grenade launcher. There are no factory codes or identifying stamps for Yugos."[/i] [size=5][brown][b][u]ALBANIA[/size=5][/b][/u][/brown] [img]http://www.simonov.net/images/FAQ/identify/albanian.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.simonov.net/images/FAQ/identify/Albanian_ad.jpg[/img] [i]"These rifles are so new to the U.S. that nobody knows much about them. It's not even 100% certain the Albanians were even the ones who manufactured them, although they may have used them and are exporting them today. These rifles are another unique variant of the basic Simonov design. The stock and hand guard on the gas tube is longer, going all the way to the gas block. Also, the charging handle is more like that of an AK-47 than an SKS. Also, there are two holes in the butt plate, not one. That's all we really know for now."[/i] [size=5][blue][b][u]OTHER COUNTRIES:[/size=5][/b][/u] [b][blue] [img]http://www.simonov.net/images/FAQ/identify/viet.jpg[/img] Vietnam [img]http://www.simonov.net/images/FAQ/identify/korean.jpg[/img] N.Korea [img]http://www.simonov.net/images/FAQ/identify/german.jpg[/img] Germany[/b][/blue] |
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Ric u da man,thanks for signing me up,im not a lurker anymore.the pics you put up are great,cant wait to get my SKS and my AK. Ric another question for you ,if the SKS has a non detachable mag hoew is it that everyone attaches a high cap,explain it slow,im only a toe doc./ |
Ok, I'll tell you how. But you may want me to do it when you get your SKS. Field strip the SKS Take a 1/4 punch and press the button behind the trigger guard. You really have to press hard and maybe have another person hold the SKS really tight!!! One you have the trigger assembly out you can remove the 10round box mag. Put the SKS all back together (without the 10 round mag) and then you can attach and Detach detachable SKS mags. |
From what I understand, the "M21" SKS is supposedly a "sterile" export version. No ChiCom arsenal markings=deniability for them when M21 carbines show up in trouble spots. |
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Take a look at my web site for 20 pages of SKS related information. I'm sure you will like it. Go to the Guns section and then to the SKS pages. Finally ENJOY!! YooperJ www.yooperj.com |
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Regarding markings on the receiver cover on Russian SKS's..... Tula-built SKS's at the end of their production (1955-56) had unmarked receiver covers with the serial number on the rear of the cover. The arsenal mark was the Tula star on the left receiver rail. Stocks were generally laminated although I've seen a solid wood stock that was not renumbered. |
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ALBANIA www.simonov.net/images/FAQ/identify/albanian.jpg www.simonov.net/images/FAQ/identify/Albanian_ad.jpg "These rifles are so new to the U.S. that nobody knows much about them. It's not even 100% certain the Albanians were even the ones who manufactured them, although they may have used them and are exporting them today. an albanian guy told me for another unusual ak47 product, few of these specimens were made, with a longer barrel for two point suppressor use, scope place, and the most important thing a little system gas block turning the ak into a bolt action rifle for eliminating the bolt action noise and gas escape from the piston tube for more eficent usage with subsonic amo. i'm waiting for some pics, i'll post them. |
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These are the markings on my Chinese SKS. Most lists that I have looked at do not show factory 136. I couldn't get a clear enough photo so I drew them. http://www.kilroy-was-here.org/sks%20markings.bmp |
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WOW thanks for doing all that the research for lazy guys like me! I'm still having a hard time identifying mine. It says "sks sporter 7.62x39 made in china by norinco labanu. ronkonkoma. ny. 93 23335". It has a thumbhole stock and takes AK mags, (I believe it was made to take AK mags because it looks factory finished.) Also it is a milled reciever. Any help would be greatly appreciated! |
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Here are the Markings on my Factory 0406 Norinco SKS. http://gallery.digitaldeviation.com/d/5977-3/serial.jpg http://gallery.digitaldeviation.com/d/5975-3/modeltag.jpg |
Per http://www.simonov.net/codechart.htm, your's looks to be from factory 0406, seemingly one of the more common chinamade sks rifles that made it into the US |
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Hi guys, I just ended up with my first SKS. I currently has a triangular bayonet that someone has shortened and ground to a wedge point. It also has had the original wooden stock removed and replaced with a black synthetic folding stock. It has had the fixed magazine removed and replaced with a 30 round removable. I am interested in replacing the original magazine, stock, and getting the correct bayonet for it. How do I remove the stock? I have looked it over and cannot locate any screws that hold it on. I am interested in removing the stock to find any other numbers or markings that might help me identify what it is. This is the start of my research and when I get home from work today I will post what markings I can see on the gun.
Where is my best chance to pick up the parts I need? I need a fixed magazine, stock, and the proper bayonet....Thnaks....<><....:) |
| Thanks, that's a great help. I got home from work and checked my SKS. The serial number (all matching) is 76XXX and the only markings I can saee on the gun are the small stamped letters "GBE H.B. CA." on the left side of the reciever. I cannot locate any definitive info on these markings. Anyone have any info on them?...Thanks again for the help guys....<><....:) |
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it is down for me as well. I don't know if it is gone forever or just down,
I have determined the last letters of the upper reciever markings on my SKS indicate H.B. CA. indicates Huntington Beach, California. Now can anyone help to shed some light or knowledge on what the first three letters "GBE" indicate? What company imported this SKS? And perhaps during what years?...Thanks....<><....:) |
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