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12/5/2012 11:57:28 AM EDT
Thank you to the staff of AR15.com for getting us setup so quickly.


We are excited to announce FUSION - our new modular mounting system.

FUSION aims to save weight, space, and end user cost by serving as a versitle and modular system. There are literally thousands of configurations and setups the end user can choose. We will continue to release new mounting accessories throughout 2013 to expand its capabilities.

Please checkout our spec sheets below and ask any questions you may have.

Please also stop by our website and check us out on Facebook for new announcements and projects.

We will be populating our Industry Sub-Forum in the next coming weeks to answer questions and provide more information on this and other products. So please stop by and say hi.

www.UnityTactical.com
www.Facebook.com/UnityTacticalLLC

Thank you for your interest and we look forward to hearing your feedback.









We are offering a discount during the pre-order process as well as running some weekly Facebook contests.
12/5/2012 12:09:37 PM EDT
[#1]
Don't quite get it but good luck.
12/5/2012 1:01:18 PM EDT
[#2]
Very nice.
12/5/2012 2:15:03 PM EDT
[#3]
Looks good.
12/5/2012 3:08:03 PM EDT
[#4]
So its a rail you attach to rails to replace your rails?
12/5/2012 3:15:54 PM EDT
[#5]
Yeah, I'm a little confused, a picture of it mounted on a rifle would help


Quoted:


So its a rail you attach to rails to replace your rails?






 
12/5/2012 3:35:51 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Yeah, I'm a little confused, a picture of it mounted on a rifle would help
Quoted:
So its a rail you attach to rails to replace your rails?


 


it doesnt replace the rails. it allows for tighter mounting of items through the use of the hub. By using the hub, you can now mount things that would have used multiple different mounts before.

Mark
12/5/2012 3:47:26 PM EDT
[#7]
Sure guys,

Its not designed to replace rails certainly, its designed to consolidate mounts.

So, for instance, if you wanted to mount a front BUIS and X300 at 12oClock, traditionally you would mount the light as far foward as possible, and the BUIS directly behind it.

With FUSION, you could mount it like this:


Credit: Stephen Hilliard of BFG - One of our T&E users

Or if you wanted to have an offset scout light and Front BUIS, you can save some weight in this configuration:



Or you could attach an LDI laser and V series Scout light on the same mount to save weight and space this way:



You can save some weight using an offset X series light and BUIS - This mount+BUIS weighs 1.6 Ounces



Or you can extend the light out further:



You can use it to mount an offset BUIS and Light in one compact package:



Or mount an ATLAS bipod and Light:



Well have some more weapon mounted images in the next few days. And if there is a specific configuration you would like to see, please let me know and I will snap a picture of it.

Thanks
12/5/2012 3:53:46 PM EDT
[#8]
Is the front sight same plane as a standard rear?

I can see some usefulness, but most of the situations solved can still be done with separate cheaper mounts that still allow for quick release of individual components without having to remove the entire hub.  Example:  mounting a quick release flashlight mount behind the front sight will allow me to rapidly take off my flashlight without interfering with my front sight.
12/5/2012 4:13:52 PM EDT
[#9]
Medicfrost,

Yes sir, it is the same plane as a standard Rear.

The seperate mounts may be cheaper by themselves, but once you add up the cost of the system the prices get closer
For Example:

Standard BUIS - $119.00
Standard Light Mount (Non QD) - $65

Weight 2+ Ounces

Total = $184

FUSION Hub - $102.95
FUSION BUIS - $99.95
Total = $202.90

Weight 1.2 Ounces

Variance = $18.90

That doesnt include shipping or other incidentals of course. Our shipping is always free.

And its certainly a personal decision on how you setup your carbine, this is just another option that offers advantages to some.

Thank you

12/5/2012 4:29:05 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Medicfrost,

Yes sir, it is the same plane as a standard Rear.

The seperate mounts may be cheaper by themselves, but once you add up the cost of the system the prices get closer
For Example:

Standard BUIS - $119.00
Standard Light Mount (Non QD) - $65

Weight 2+ Ounces

Total = $184

FUSION Hub - $102.95
FUSION BUIS - $99.95
Total = $202.90

Weight 1.2 Ounces

Variance = $18.90

That doesnt include shipping or other incidentals of course. Our shipping is always free.

And its certainly a personal decision on how you setup your carbine, this is just another option that offers advantages to some.

Thank you



Though your guesstimate was a bit high on what I am paying for a front BUIS and flashlight mount ($57 for a Vltor flashlight mount, $80 for a Troy Buis) some others may be paying that.  You didn't address the loss of convenience with the lack of a quick release for the extra price that you can get with the cheaper mounts.  If you add that down the road, you may get my money.
12/5/2012 4:46:42 PM EDT
[#11]
Medic,

Roger, I just pulled some prices from the web for some popular items.

Yes it is not QD. If you need that functionality, this will not help.

It was designed to be low profile and light weight.

A QD model isnt out of the question down the road however.

Thank you
12/5/2012 4:54:27 PM EDT
[#12]
Well, welcome to the forum, looks like a cool product.  You got a tough crowd around here to please, good luck with the new product.


DBAR
12/5/2012 5:21:25 PM EDT
[#13]
You're always free to send me sample product to change my attitude.  
12/5/2012 5:37:07 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Well, welcome to the forum, looks like a cool product.  You got a tough crowd around here to please, good luck with the new product.
DBAR


Thats ok, we will be around for a long time to come and have some neat announcements come SHOT.

Medic - If you will be at SHOT we'll meet up and I would be happy to show it to you.

Thanks
12/5/2012 6:01:43 PM EDT
[#15]




Quoted:



Quoted:

Well, welcome to the forum, looks like a cool product. You got a tough crowd around here to please, good luck with the new product.

DBAR




Thats ok, we will be around for a long time to come and have some neat announcements come SHOT.



Medic - If you will be at SHOT well meet up and I would be happy to show it to you.



Thanks


Get me a pass for SHOT, and I'd be more than happy to critique it.  





It does look very interesting, though.  I'm almost certain to try this out, as I can see a lot of potential here.

12/5/2012 6:13:40 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Well, welcome to the forum, looks like a cool product.  You got a tough crowd around here to please, good luck with the new product.
DBAR


Thats ok, we will be around for a long time to come and have some neat announcements come SHOT.

Medic - If you will be at SHOT we'll meet up and I would be happy to show it to you.

Thanks


pay for me to go, and I'll do it.  It would probably be cheaper just to send me a sample.  Personally, I think you already know you're probably not going to be able to prove to me your product is superior to you competitors.
12/5/2012 6:23:20 PM EDT
[#17]
Medic,

Superior to competitors is a little bit need and personal preference.

Who would you see as direct competitors and what metrics would you use to quantify?

I may not be able to prove it to you, but would happy to list what I see as some of the advantages our product has over them as well as the disadvantages.

Lets exclude QD as we know the current FUSION system does not offer that and its not really geared toward that end user.

Some metrics we could use:


  • Production Quality / Durability / Strength
    Price
    Weight
    Modularity / Configuration Options
    Rail Real Estate



And any others you can think of. Thanks
12/5/2012 6:51:24 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Medic,

Superior to competitors is a little bit need and personal preference.

Who would you see as direct competitors and what metrics would you use to quantify?

I may not be able to prove it to you, but would happy to list what I see as some of the advantages our product has over them as well as the disadvantages.

Lets exclude QD as we know the current FUSION system does not offer that and its not really geared toward that end user.

Some metrics we could use:


  • Production Quality / Durability / Strength
    Price
    Weight
    Modularity / Configuration Options
    Rail Real Estate



And any others you can think of. Thanks


I have no idea.  I don't have one of your products to do a comparison.
12/5/2012 7:13:09 PM EDT
[#19]
Medic, understood. Thank you for your interest.
12/5/2012 7:25:09 PM EDT
[#20]
If I CAN finagle a pass to SHOT (possibly through my unit's purchasing agent), I'll definitely stop by and take a look at your product.
12/6/2012 2:51:46 AM EDT
[#21]
Interesting concept.
12/6/2012 3:54:21 AM EDT
[#22]
I love this concept but I would like to see your Fusion mount milled into the last three inches of a free float hand guard.  That way, I can mount what I want, without having to mount an adapter first.
12/6/2012 5:47:54 AM EDT
[#23]
Very cool concept! I am interested to see how this develops and what other attachments may come out. I like the bi-pod attachment.  It would be nice to see some way to quickly remove the bipod from the Hub without increasing the weight of the front end.  I'm not sure if I am doing a good job at describing this...

Either way, looks good.  Maybe down the road I'll have a use for this!  Best of luck to you guys!  
12/6/2012 8:44:33 AM EDT
[#24]
any plans for a fixed front sight?
12/6/2012 8:57:19 AM EDT
[#25]
mchgnxj24 - Thank you! Keep an eye on us!

slowmethinks - Thank you!

Cowboy - The folding front sight comes with a screw that effectively turns it into a fixed front sight, I will get a picture of this tonight to post. We will be offering some new sighting attachments in 2013

I know we will be producing:

Micro Height BUIS
CR123 Battery Compartment
Offset Micro and RMR Mounts
M Series Surefire Mounts
A smaller Ring mount for handheld lights
And a few more in development

Not to mention the Tubular Handguard Hub and Ops-Core ARC Mount

Thank you
12/6/2012 10:52:11 AM EDT
[#26]
Innovative product!  Hopefully, I have the funds available to purchase this at it's release
12/6/2012 11:15:17 AM EDT
[#27]
We've been following these mounts for quite some time and TNVC will be a stocking dealer of these mounts.  For simultaneous mounting of lights and lasers (something that has been lacking and is our #1 priority), Unity Tactical has really accomplished something very good here with the utmost attention in the versatility Dept.  We look forward to the offering.  

Vic Di Cosola
12/6/2012 11:17:33 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
We've been following these mounts for quite some time and TNVC will be a stocking dealer of these mounts.  For simultaneous mounting of lights and lasers (something that has been lacking and is our #1 priority), Unity Tactical has really accomplished something very good here with the utmost attention in the versatility Dept.  We look forward to the offering.  

Vic Di Cosola


Ditto.
12/6/2012 12:15:21 PM EDT
[#29]
12/6/2012 3:23:19 PM EDT
[#30]


GTFO!  GD would gladly welcome your ignorance...
12/6/2012 4:21:46 PM EDT
[#31]
We are very excited to have TNVC as a stocking dealer, their expertise brings a lot to the table.

chibajoe - Haha, we're easy going and appreciate a little humor.

The thought process is to build a "Mount System" instead of just a mount. We aim to do the same with all of our products like ATOM and the upcoming VLOK.

The value comes in the versatility and modularity.

Thanks
12/6/2012 4:27:00 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:


GTFO!  GD would gladly welcome your ignorance...



Here I thought that AR15.com was a place where like minded people could get together and discuss a common interest?  I guess, you can't cure some diseases, and ignorance is one of them.


DBAR


12/6/2012 5:40:51 PM EDT
[#33]
Wow, a few people have some issues.

This product has some potential, I will be following along with the progress.
12/6/2012 7:05:36 PM EDT
[#34]
Have you done any stress testing to ensure the front sight doesn't move on impact? I would think that you'd have massive issues with the screw, do you guarantee repeatability?
12/6/2012 7:28:34 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:

Its not designed to replace rails certainly, its designed to consolidate mounts.




I get where you guys are going with it. Please email Rob Curtis or myself where you are going to be at SHOT if you have a booth so Army Times / Military Times can sit down with you and go over everything one on one. It doesn't matter which one of us you talk to, Rob is my editor but either of us can write about it.  If you have the ability to get product to us for a hands on review before SHOT, that would be outstanding, but I know what its like when things are starting out.  

I've been following this since I first saw your Glock slide drawings, which retains a high level of interest for me as well for another project.  

12/6/2012 7:40:27 PM EDT
[#36]
Very well thought out! I will be ordering some of your products when they are available:)
12/6/2012 7:48:14 PM EDT
[#37]
Been following you since the Glock slide drawings, and the development of this mount since you first showed it on LF.

I'm not tracking on some of the juvenile 'criticism' here, def an innovative product and I look forward to seeing what the future holds for Unity.
12/6/2012 7:52:38 PM EDT
[#38]
interesting concept
12/6/2012 8:10:30 PM EDT
[#39]
I've got a DBAL-D2 planned for purchase in '13, and this really appeals to me to get things situated nicely, all together.
12/7/2012 2:49:12 AM EDT
[#40]
ouch @ price
12/7/2012 5:00:36 AM EDT
[#41]
OnlyTheTip - Which screw are you referring to? The sight deployment is extremely repeatable. I will post some images this weekend detailing the front sight. When you deply the sight, a spring forces it into a wedge and self centers.

cochraneap - It will be selling quite a bit under MSRP.

Thanks
12/7/2012 5:36:57 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
We are very excited to have TNVC as a stocking dealer, their expertise brings a lot to the table.

chibajoe - Haha, we're easy going and appreciate a little humor.

The thought process is to build a "Mount System" instead of just a mount. We aim to do the same with all of our products like ATOM and the upcoming VLOK.

The value comes in the versatility and modularity.

Thanks



It's a very interesting concept, and I can see it being especially useful on some of the newer handguards that arn't fully railed, or the CF FF tubes.

12/7/2012 5:55:13 AM EDT
[#43]
Chiba - We find it very useful on tubular handguards with a top rail to save a lot of weight, space, and keep the rail as slick as possible.

Thanks!
12/7/2012 6:14:27 AM EDT
[#44]
Ha this whole time, as I was reading I was thinking to myself "these guys need to send some stuff to stickman for T&E "  

Guys It would be a good decision to send him some stuff even for just the pictures that he would produce.  
12/7/2012 6:47:12 AM EDT
[#45]
This looks great!
12/7/2012 7:03:13 AM EDT
[#46]
On a more serious note, have you considered creating an interface to allow the Fusion to mount directly to some of the older tubular handguards, in lieu of mounting to a rail?  I'm thinking something like this Armalite (.308) FF tube, which has no provision for a rail.



12/7/2012 7:17:20 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
On a more serious note, have you considered creating an interface to allow the Fusion to mount directly to some of the older tubular handguards, in lieu of mounting to a rail?  I'm thinking something like this Armalite (.308) FF tube, which has no provision for a rail.

http://i.imgur.com/0E227.jpg



Someone put a .308 tube on an AR15?
12/7/2012 7:50:01 AM EDT
[#48]
Chiba - We have a tubular rail hub that will address those situations for handguards with no top rail. It will be released in the "Phase 2" offering Q2 2013.

And an Ops-Core ARC Adapter that will allow you to adapt FUSION accessories for helmet use.

Thanks
12/7/2012 9:41:39 AM EDT
[#49]
Looks like a great idea to me. I think it's going to save a bit of space on my little bidy diablo... Thinking about getting for sure! Hope that "well below MSRP" thing is true its a bit on the high side as far as price for my liking.

And @ chibajoe I though it was pretty darn funny! :P
12/7/2012 10:34:40 AM EDT
[#50]
Check out the web-site for our standard pricing. The pre-order is a discount off of that.

FUSION Store

Thanks

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