[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Muslim imams murdered in Queens (Page 3 of 4)
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No, what you've said is, ignorant, all of those things are permitted in the Koran under shria law. I find the part labeling unbelievers as inhuman particularly disgusting. Quoted:
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it's NYC, statistically, every type of person is murdered, eventually. There aren't as many places on earth that HAVE every type of person, but if there is one that does, NYC is probably the best bet. sucks that two guys who probably weren't harming anyone got murdered They are Islamists. There are harm and subjugation in their hearts for everyone that doesn't believe what they believe. They like child sex. And murdering gays. And gang rapes. All sanctioned by their imams. Their belief system harms innocents everyday. What a load of uneducated, ignorant bollocks. There are shitheads in all walks of life. The vast majority of any group are fine, but the shitheads in every group will always push limits until they are stopped. That goes down to the ineptitude of society in slapping these criminal fuckheads down and holding them accountable for their personal actions. Any religion is a crock of shit and means nothing if it is used as an excuse to harm others. It is not a reason, it is not an excuse. That decision to behave like a cunt comes down to the individual and their personal responsibility. The problem comes when SJWs give these shitheads some special snowflake status because they have a sun tan or their clothes, who where they stick their dick, or whatever other flavour of the month there is. Stop making excuses for shit behaviour by buying into the religious argument bullshit. All you do is reinforce the bullshit. No, what you've said is, ignorant, all of those things are permitted in the Koran under shria law. I find the part labeling unbelievers as inhuman particularly disgusting. No, mate. You are attempting to interpret texts without context, apply them to extremist interpretations, and even more bizarrely doing your level best to tarnish 1.6 billion people with the accusation that they all practice your interpretation rather than their own, or at least should do. Fact is that most do not go around practicing this extremist crap. They reject it and actively oppose it. |
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The problem is that, what western culture considers shithead behavior, is in part a scriptural mandate for the followers of Mohammad. When their own sacred texts demand shit behavior and encode it into an inseparable theocratic system; it makes little sense to worry about separating the shit behavior from the religion and culture. Quoted:
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it's NYC, statistically, every type of person is murdered, eventually. There aren't as many places on earth that HAVE every type of person, but if there is one that does, NYC is probably the best bet. sucks that two guys who probably weren't harming anyone got murdered They are Islamists. There are harm and subjugation in their hearts for everyone that doesn't believe what they believe. They like child sex. And murdering gays. And gang rapes. All sanctioned by their imams. Their belief system harms innocents everyday. What a load of uneducated, ignorant bollocks. There are shitheads in all walks of life. The vast majority of any group are fine, but the shitheads in every group will always push limits until they are stopped. That goes down to the ineptitude of society in slapping these criminal fuckheads down and holding them accountable for their personal actions. Any religion is a crock of shit and means nothing if it is used as an excuse to harm others. It is not a reason, it is not an excuse. That decision to behave like a cunt comes down to the individual and their personal responsibility. The problem comes when SJWs give these shitheads some special snowflake status because they have a sun tan or their clothes, who where they stick their dick, or whatever other flavour of the month there is. Stop making excuses for shit behaviour by buying into the religious argument bullshit. All you do is reinforce the bullshit. The problem is that, what western culture considers shithead behavior, is in part a scriptural mandate for the followers of Mohammad. When their own sacred texts demand shit behavior and encode it into an inseparable theocratic system; it makes little sense to worry about separating the shit behavior from the religion and culture. What they do in their own countries is up to them. Their country, their rules. However, rule of law applies in your country and mine. Religious reasons for committing crimes and acts of atrocity carry no weight whatsoever in our judicial systems and are often considered an aggravating factor. Despite whatever you think the religious texts say, the majority live within the laws of our nations and enjoy the freedom, protection and liberty those laws provide. While there are some who believe that they are above the law and can act with impunity, most can and do separate shit behaviour from religious and culture. In fact most actively distance themselves from the actions of criminals who use religion as an excuse. |
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Let me see if I can muster a tear. Nope. Dry as a bone. 2 down, 1,599,999,998 to go. So, you cheer on the execution style murder of 2 people on US streets and then advocate the murder of 1.6 billion others? What do you base your extremist views on? He's right. Only about 20% want to kill you. That number should only be about 319,999,998. |
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What a load of uneducated, ignorant bollocks. There are shitheads in all walks of life. The vast majority of any group are fine, but the shitheads in every group will always push limits until they are stopped. That goes down to the ineptitude of society in slapping these criminal fuckheads down and holding them accountable for their personal actions. Any religion is a crock of shit and means nothing if it is used as an excuse to harm others. It is not a reason, it is not an excuse. That decision to behave like a cunt comes down to the individual and their personal responsibility. The problem comes when SJWs give these shitheads some special snowflake status because they have a sun tan or their clothes, who where they stick their dick, or whatever other flavour of the month there is. Stop making excuses for shit behaviour by buying into the religious argument bullshit. All you do is reinforce the bullshit. Quoted:
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it's NYC, statistically, every type of person is murdered, eventually. There aren't as many places on earth that HAVE every type of person, but if there is one that does, NYC is probably the best bet. sucks that two guys who probably weren't harming anyone got murdered They are Islamists. There are harm and subjugation in their hearts for everyone that doesn't believe what they believe. They like child sex. And murdering gays. And gang rapes. All sanctioned by their imams. Their belief system harms innocents everyday. What a load of uneducated, ignorant bollocks. There are shitheads in all walks of life. The vast majority of any group are fine, but the shitheads in every group will always push limits until they are stopped. That goes down to the ineptitude of society in slapping these criminal fuckheads down and holding them accountable for their personal actions. Any religion is a crock of shit and means nothing if it is used as an excuse to harm others. It is not a reason, it is not an excuse. That decision to behave like a cunt comes down to the individual and their personal responsibility. The problem comes when SJWs give these shitheads some special snowflake status because they have a sun tan or their clothes, who where they stick their dick, or whatever other flavour of the month there is. Stop making excuses for shit behaviour by buying into the religious argument bullshit. All you do is reinforce the bullshit. Their belief system is shit grade politics based on a conceptual supremacism because their prophet liked being a murdering land pirate and had a proclivity for underage girls. That was made into a religion. Raping, murdering, pillaging and plundering in the name of their god. The highest form of religious observation in their shit grade religion is to follow exactly in his footsteps and spread the shit grade politics of exploitation through violence as far as possible across the globe. Because sharia. Now it is an observable fact that this belief system is the excuse to engage in what some societies consider unlawful behavior toward their more tenured inhabitants, up to the point of the newer inhabitants bumping their crime statistics up to startling felonous numbers, so much so that those societies will go to great lengths to obscure those facts in the name of 'fairness' and hide who is doing what to who. There's some bizarre desire to excuse the behaviour because one society's belief system wishes to find commonality and goodness in all human beings, while the other is able to work off that because they like the supremacism and subjugation angle of those unlike them. They are insular. They don't assimilate. It's a failure to recognise that this is two opposing belief systems coming to heads with one another. Now I'm inclined to believe that the more forgiving nature of one wants to believe in a potential conversion of the other, to the rationality of its own belief system because it is 'more fair'. The other system doesn't have this proclivity and doesn't doubt the veracity of its cause. This is proven out in their minds, possibly, because of the appeasement and submissiveness of the victim society. There is not much penalty for victimising victims in victim societies (Progressive societies). Yes, their religion is an excuse. And they are ok with that. This shit is accelerating by any conceivable standard. Because of their belief system. It's not going to come around. Because it's a better deal for them this way. And it is a choice. It's not something they are blessed with because of DNA. It is solely their choice. By the appeal of its design. It's a shit grade religion. By design. The appeal. |
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What they do in their own countries is up to them. Their country, their rules. However, rule of law applies in your country and mine. Religious reasons for committing crimes and acts of atrocity carry no weight whatsoever in our judicial systems and are often considered an aggravating factor. Despite whatever you think the religious texts say, the majority live within the laws of our nations and enjoy the freedom, protection and liberty those laws provide. While there are some who believe that they are above the law and can act with impunity, most can and do separate shit behaviour from religious and culture. In fact most actively distance themselves from the actions of criminals who use religion as an excuse. Quoted:
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it's NYC, statistically, every type of person is murdered, eventually. There aren't as many places on earth that HAVE every type of person, but if there is one that does, NYC is probably the best bet. sucks that two guys who probably weren't harming anyone got murdered They are Islamists. There are harm and subjugation in their hearts for everyone that doesn't believe what they believe. They like child sex. And murdering gays. And gang rapes. All sanctioned by their imams. Their belief system harms innocents everyday. What a load of uneducated, ignorant bollocks. There are shitheads in all walks of life. The vast majority of any group are fine, but the shitheads in every group will always push limits until they are stopped. That goes down to the ineptitude of society in slapping these criminal fuckheads down and holding them accountable for their personal actions. Any religion is a crock of shit and means nothing if it is used as an excuse to harm others. It is not a reason, it is not an excuse. That decision to behave like a cunt comes down to the individual and their personal responsibility. The problem comes when SJWs give these shitheads some special snowflake status because they have a sun tan or their clothes, who where they stick their dick, or whatever other flavour of the month there is. Stop making excuses for shit behaviour by buying into the religious argument bullshit. All you do is reinforce the bullshit. The problem is that, what western culture considers shithead behavior, is in part a scriptural mandate for the followers of Mohammad. When their own sacred texts demand shit behavior and encode it into an inseparable theocratic system; it makes little sense to worry about separating the shit behavior from the religion and culture. What they do in their own countries is up to them. Their country, their rules. However, rule of law applies in your country and mine. Religious reasons for committing crimes and acts of atrocity carry no weight whatsoever in our judicial systems and are often considered an aggravating factor. Despite whatever you think the religious texts say, the majority live within the laws of our nations and enjoy the freedom, protection and liberty those laws provide. While there are some who believe that they are above the law and can act with impunity, most can and do separate shit behaviour from religious and culture. In fact most actively distance themselves from the actions of criminals who use religion as an excuse. It's nice that so many of them ignore the more violent tendencies of their chosen theocratic system. However, it makes no sense to allow/bring Muslims into the west when there is literally 1/2 the world that is not saddled w/ those beliefs. Let them fix their own countries. |
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Their belief system is shit grade politics based on a conceptual supremacism because their prophet liked being a murdering land pirate and had a proclivity for underage girls. That was made into a religion. Raping, murdering, pillaging and plundering in the name of their god. The highest form of religious observation in their shit grade religion is to follow exactly in his footsteps and spread the shit grade politics of exploitation through violence as far as possible across the globe. Because sharia. Now it is an observable fact that this belief system is the excuse to engage in what some societies consider unlawful behavior toward their more tenured inhabitants, up to the point of the newer inhabitants bumping their crime statistics up to startling felonous numbers, so much so that those societies will go to great lengths to obscure those facts in the name of 'fairness' and hide who is doing what to who. There's some bizarre desire to excuse the behaviour because one society's belief system wishes to find commonality and goodness in all human beings, while the other is able to work off that because they like the supremacism and subjugation angle of those unlike them. They are insular. They don't assimilate. It's a failure to recognise that this is two opposing belief systems coming to heads with one another. Now I'm inclined to believe that the more forgiving nature of one wants to believe in a potential conversion of the other, to the rationality of its own belief system because it is 'more fair'. The other system doesn't have this proclivity and doesn't doubt the veracity of its cause. This is proven out in their minds, possibly, because of the appeasement and submissiveness of the victim society. There is not much penalty for victimising victims in victim societies (Progressive societies). Yes, their religion is an excuse. And they are ok with that. This shit is accelerating by any conceivable standard. Because of their belief system. It's not going to come around. Because it's a better deal for them this way. And it is a choice. It's not something they are blessed with because of DNA. It is solely their choice. By the appeal of its design. It's a shit grade religion. By design. The appeal. Well said! |
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Quoted: You're not a "Mean Guy". You are scared shitless and don't know how to respond so like a big daft child you advocate killing everything because understanding the problem is hard.  Your response is emotional and lacks the cold, hard, calculating processes needed to identify the nature of the problem, and how to deal with it.It always amazes me how many of you will sing the praises of the constitution and rights, yet throw your constitution under the bus at the first sign of a little adversity. I'm totally with you about going and getting the bad guys. Drone strike them, arrest and imprison them and do earthing you can to degrade their capability and capacity to do harm at every opportunity. Totally with you on that. However, advocating the wholesale slaughter of innocent people, and throwing your own supposed values and beliefs out of the window in a fit of irrational ignorance and fear is the action of an ill-disciplined, emotionally immature person. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So, you cheer on the execution style murder of 2 people on US streets and then advocate the murder of 1.6 billion others? What do you base your extremist views on? Oh....I don't know. San Bernadino Orlando that whole 9/11 thingy Ft. Hood Beruit USS Cole Benghazi Nice, France Brussels Paris Madrid Khobar towers ...Shall I go on? So, on that basis you advocate the murder of innocent people who had nothing to do with those attacks in a futile and moronic knee-jerk reaction that effectively rips up the principles of your own Constitution to enable you to commit an act of genocide? Awesome.......I never knew that your grasp on the founding principles of your nation could be overturned so easily and thrown under the bus just by provoking a few hot-heads. What a great way to play directly into the hands of your enemy. 1. islam can no longer count itself as a religion and therefore hide behind the protections that come with that designation 2. this is war. If you had "moderate" nazis living next door to you during the blitz, would you have felt the same compassion for them as you do for islam? After all, only a handful of them were actually bombing the shit out of you, right? 3. we've tried for decades now to be the nice guy and look what it has gotten us. All this talk of "tolerance" has led to nothing but thousands of more dead Americans because our enemies view our tolerance as weakness and take advantage of it. This isn't knee jerk reaction, it is the logical result of decades of systematic slaughter of our people simply because they don't agree with the religous views of those who would slaughter us. Your refusal to accept reality because it offends your sensibilities is "playing right into the enemies hands," as you put it. So don't try to make me feel bad for being the mean guy. If more of our allies would grow some balls and start being mean, we wouldn't be in this fucking mess. You're not a "Mean Guy". You are scared shitless and don't know how to respond so like a big daft child you advocate killing everything because understanding the problem is hard. Your response is emotional and lacks the cold, hard, calculating processes needed to identify the nature of the problem, and how to deal with it.It always amazes me how many of you will sing the praises of the constitution and rights, yet throw your constitution under the bus at the first sign of a little adversity. I'm totally with you about going and getting the bad guys. Drone strike them, arrest and imprison them and do earthing you can to degrade their capability and capacity to do harm at every opportunity. Totally with you on that. However, advocating the wholesale slaughter of innocent people, and throwing your own supposed values and beliefs out of the window in a fit of irrational ignorance and fear is the action of an ill-disciplined, emotionally immature person. I largely agree with everything you posted above. I have a few questions for you. What are your thoughts on groups such as The Soldiers of Odin that was started out of Finland? Forget that Odin was Norse....and all that. I'm talking about the premise of citizens forming groups to provide protection for other citizens? Is this just an excuse for baseless nationalism? Do these groups actually have a legitimate basis for their creation? Would it be fair to summarily throw all such groups under the banner of "Nazi's"? Is there a point in time when it's reasonable to conclude government has failed in its protection and priority of its own citizens and a citizen based response is reasonable without that response being condemned as "nationalist/Nazi/extremist"? And I'm not talking about forming support groups to talk things out. I'm talking about assuming some level of responsibility for physical security. Do any such conditions exist.....or can you articulate conditions where such a response would be necessary? |
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[ Their belief system is shit grade politics based on a conceptual supremacism because their prophet liked being a murdering land pirate and had a proclivity for underage girls. That was made into a religion. Raping, murdering, pillaging and plundering in the name of their god. The highest form of religious observation in their shit grade religion is to follow exactly in his footsteps and spread the shit grade politics of exploitation through violence as far as possible across the globe. Because sharia. Now it is an observable fact that this belief system is the excuse to engage in what some societies consider unlawful behavior toward their more tenured inhabitants, up to the point of the newer inhabitants bumping their crime statistics up to startling felonous numbers, so much so that those societies will go to great lengths to obscure those facts in the name of 'fairness' and hide who is doing what to who. There's some bizarre desire to excuse the behaviour because one society's belief system wishes to find commonality and goodness in all human beings, while the other is able to work off that because they like the supremacism and subjugation angle of those unlike them. They are insular. They don't assimilate. It's a failure to recognise that this is two opposing belief systems coming to heads with one another. Now I'm inclined to believe that the more forgiving nature of one wants to believe in a potential conversion of the other, to the rationality of its own belief system because it is 'more fair'. The other system doesn't have this proclivity and doesn't doubt the veracity of its cause. This is proven out in their minds, possibly, because of the appeasement and submissiveness of the victim society. There is not much penalty for victimising victims in victim societies (Progressive societies). Yes, their religion is an excuse. And they are ok with that. This shit is accelerating by any conceivable standard. Because of their belief system. It's not going to come around. Because it's a better deal for them this way. And it is a choice. It's not something they are blessed with because of DNA. It is solely their choice. By the appeal of its design. It's a shit grade religion. By design. The appeal. The opposing belief systems are within islam itself. There are the hard-lines who have as you rightly aluded, used religion as a justification for control with violence over those they want to subjugate. Then there are those who see the advantage of modern secular democracies and adopt what we lonely term as a moderate view, but in reality is just a more progressive (in the true sense of the word) and modern view. To the hard-liners, this is unacceptable. They see people who they previously had hard-line control over melting away into a diaspora seeking modern living standards, better prospects and far greater liberty. These hard liners cannot see that their totalitarian views are what are driving these people away, and instead blame "western decadence". This is why the extremists have resorted to totalitarian tactics within their own countries and are digging ever deeper into extremism. The hard-liners have also adopted an approach of trying rate a common enemy......the west. They have and will continue to attack in order to provoke an all-out response so that they can say "Look, the west is the enemy of Islam" wherein actual fact the west is simply the enemy of thugs and killers who want to import their third-world shitholery to western society and impose it on those who live there. For the extremists they can see that they have lost the moderates. Their only recourse is to try and create division and start a war long their own bigoted and irrational lines, only the west isn't playing. Even with the creation of the so called Islamic State death cult couldn't attract the moderates away from their western lives. Only a handful morons who were already rejects from western society have found a home in IS. The rest want no part of it. This internal opposition is going to come to a head - it is doing so as we speak. The desperation of the hard-liners is apparent, to the extent that they will commit and publicise brutal atrocities against people supposedly of their own creed. I'm all for exterminating the extremists wherever they are and offering them no quarter. But in doing so I make the distinction between those who want to no part of extremist interpretations and are the majority by far, and those who I see as the criminal thugs committing the criminal acts. To me, making this distinction is entirely in line with my own beliefs of what constitutes justice and the values that I hold as part of our western culture. To advocate the slaughter of innocent people for the actions of a few is entirely against all the value that we hold at the heart of our western culture. It isn't "soft" to defend and uphold those values. If anything it demonstrates how strong our own belief is in our values and our unwillingness to compromise our own culture to sink to the level of extremists. Those who are prepared to throw those values out so readily and compromise our culture are weak. This is why I challenged the notion that the murder of two people and the extermination of 1.6 Billion others for no other reason than irrational fear and ignorance was somehow acceptable. It isn't acceptable. This is something that Islam needs to resolve, just as Christianity did. It has a long way to go and attempts will be made to draw the west into this at every opportunity. 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It's nice that so many of them ignore the more violent tendencies of their chosen theocratic system. However, it makes no sense to allow/bring Muslims into the west when there is literally 1/2 the world that is not saddled w/ those beliefs. Let them fix their own countries. Quoted:
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What they do in their own countries is up to them. Their country, their rules. However, rule of law applies in your country and mine. Religious reasons for committing crimes and acts of atrocity carry no weight whatsoever in our judicial systems and are often considered an aggravating factor. Despite whatever you think the religious texts say, the majority live within the laws of our nations and enjoy the freedom, protection and liberty those laws provide. While there are some who believe that they are above the law and can act with impunity, most can and do separate shit behaviour from religious and culture. In fact most actively distance themselves from the actions of criminals who use religion as an excuse. It's nice that so many of them ignore the more violent tendencies of their chosen theocratic system. However, it makes no sense to allow/bring Muslims into the west when there is literally 1/2 the world that is not saddled w/ those beliefs. Let them fix their own countries. Agree. You cannot give people freedom. It has to be earned. If you give something it is rarely valued as much as something that has had to be fought for, earned, and maintained through at great personal risk. I vehemently oppose the weak immigration policies of the left and have acted accordingly in doing so. However, I do not fear it. It is self defeating in all regards and Merkel's actions alone have been instrumental in helping turn the tide against simpering leftism. |
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No, mate. You are attempting to interpret texts without context, apply them to extremist interpretations, and even more bizarrely doing your level best to tarnish 1.6 billion people with the accusation that they all practice your interpretation rather than their own, or at least should do. Fact is that most do not go around practicing this extremist crap. They reject it and actively oppose it. No mate. You are projecting western values based upon your limited sample. "tarnish 1.6 billion people" they tarnish themselves even without lying 
when OBL stopped killing thousands of americans his popularity went DOWN. But immediately after 9-11 OBL was a fucking rockstar across the muslim world. The reason most of them don't get their jihad on is the fact that most of them are pussies. but given the opportunity and the strong probability of success, they'll lop your head off in a heart beat, "mate" you learned about islam in britain. you know, jolly b-ham and how many girls enslaved by "asians" for sex and noone did shit? crawl your ass into the heart of pashtoonistan, or Saudi Arabia and learn about islam. the two leaders of islam globally are Iran and Saudi Arabia. wonderful places, aren't they? are you saying countries that be lychin' the gays (or beheading them) AREN'T "true islam" congrats. you have shown your fealty to political correctness. also your ignorance, but keep on keepin' on. |
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No, mate. You are attempting to interpret texts without context, apply them to extremist interpretations, and even more bizarrely doing your level best to tarnish 1.6 billion people with the accusation that they all practice your interpretation rather than their own, or at least should do. Fact is that most do not go around practicing this extremist crap. They reject it and actively oppose it. Quoted:
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it's NYC, statistically, every type of person is murdered, eventually. There aren't as many places on earth that HAVE every type of person, but if there is one that does, NYC is probably the best bet. sucks that two guys who probably weren't harming anyone got murdered They are Islamists. There are harm and subjugation in their hearts for everyone that doesn't believe what they believe. They like child sex. And murdering gays. And gang rapes. All sanctioned by their imams. Their belief system harms innocents everyday. What a load of uneducated, ignorant bollocks. There are shitheads in all walks of life. The vast majority of any group are fine, but the shitheads in every group will always push limits until they are stopped. That goes down to the ineptitude of society in slapping these criminal fuckheads down and holding them accountable for their personal actions. Any religion is a crock of shit and means nothing if it is used as an excuse to harm others. It is not a reason, it is not an excuse. That decision to behave like a cunt comes down to the individual and their personal responsibility. The problem comes when SJWs give these shitheads some special snowflake status because they have a sun tan or their clothes, who where they stick their dick, or whatever other flavour of the month there is. Stop making excuses for shit behaviour by buying into the religious argument bullshit. All you do is reinforce the bullshit. No, what you've said is, ignorant, all of those things are permitted in the Koran under shria law. I find the part labeling unbelievers as inhuman particularly disgusting. No, mate. You are attempting to interpret texts without context, apply them to extremist interpretations, and even more bizarrely doing your level best to tarnish 1.6 billion people with the accusation that they all practice your interpretation rather than their own, or at least should do. Fact is that most do not go around practicing this extremist crap. They reject it and actively oppose it. That's a huge crock of shit, mate. First of all, the ones who CHOOSE a life of jihad do so after very careful islamic religious study, usually with very learned men. It is the doctrinal conclusion of islam, which is written and understood literally (so say the koran) and not subject to "interpretation," allegory, or nuance. There's no such thing as "extremism" "radicalism" or things like that in the islamic world. This is why isis exists. This is why muslims CHEERED after 9/11 and every other islamic attack. If only 10% (and it's more than that) support jihad against the West, that's 160 MILLION muslims that need killing. The jihadis always win the religious debate among learned men in islam. There's no opposing violent jihad as a muslim because it's commanded of every muslim in the koran, hadith and sura, and perfected in example by the conduct of mohammed himself. It's those who aren't pursuing jihad that are the non-muslims in this equation. I suspect you may already know this, and are pushing a trollist viewpoint. Lastly, why are you even here? You advertise to come from a country that roundly fucked itself up with liberalism, muslims, socialism, economic disaster. The union jack beneath your name is a bright sign. It doesn't mean you're automatically wrong, but it does mean that whatever you're saying, you're standing on a giant heap of shit. In this case, caused by the same shit you're saying. |
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Agree. You cannot give people freedom. It has to be earned. If you give something it is rarely valued as much as something that has had to be fought for, earned, and maintained through at great personal risk. I vehemently oppose the weak immigration policies of the left and have acted accordingly in doing so. However, I do not fear it. It is self defeating in all regards and Merkel's actions alone have been instrumental in helping turn the tide against simpering leftism. Quoted:
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What they do in their own countries is up to them. Their country, their rules. However, rule of law applies in your country and mine. Religious reasons for committing crimes and acts of atrocity carry no weight whatsoever in our judicial systems and are often considered an aggravating factor. Despite whatever you think the religious texts say, the majority live within the laws of our nations and enjoy the freedom, protection and liberty those laws provide. While there are some who believe that they are above the law and can act with impunity, most can and do separate shit behaviour from religious and culture. In fact most actively distance themselves from the actions of criminals who use religion as an excuse. It's nice that so many of them ignore the more violent tendencies of their chosen theocratic system. However, it makes no sense to allow/bring Muslims into the west when there is literally 1/2 the world that is not saddled w/ those beliefs. Let them fix their own countries. Agree. You cannot give people freedom. It has to be earned. If you give something it is rarely valued as much as something that has had to be fought for, earned, and maintained through at great personal risk. I vehemently oppose the weak immigration policies of the left and have acted accordingly in doing so. However, I do not fear it. It is self defeating in all regards and Merkel's actions alone have been instrumental in helping turn the tide against simpering leftism. If there is nothing wrong with islam there is nothing wrong with importing 100 million muslims. It is, after all, just another religion like christianity. |
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............... No mate. You are projecting western values based upon your limited sample. "tarnish 1.6 billion people" they tarnish themselves even without lying http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2011/05/2011-osama-021.png when OBL stopped killing thousands of americans his popularity went DOWN. But immediately after 9-11 OBL was a fucking rockstar across the muslim world. The reason most of them don't get their jihad on is the fact that most of them are pussies. but given the opportunity and the strong probability of success, they'll lop your head off in a heart beat, "mate" you learned about islam in britain. you know, jolly b-ham and how many girls enslaved by "asians" for sex and noone did shit? crawl your ass into the heart of pashtoonistan, or Saudi Arabia and learn about islam. the two leaders of islam globally are Iran and Saudi Arabia. wonderful places, aren't they? are you saying countries that be lychin' the gays (or beheading them) AREN'T "true islam" congrats. you have shown your fealty to political correctness. also your ignorance, but keep on keepin' on. Holy shit!! 
Look at those numbers in 2003!!!!! 
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I look at it as a reverse knock out game that swept the urban areas the year or so.
Was not all that much concern then so I have no concern about some imams getting shot now. Let them worry abit - it's good for them plus it's fair to spread the worry around equally. |
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it's NYC, statistically, every type of person is murdered, eventually. There aren't as many places on earth that HAVE every type of person, but if there is one that does, NYC is probably the best bet. sucks that two guys who probably weren't harming anyone got murdered They are Islamists. There are harm and subjugation in their hearts for everyone that doesn't believe what they believe. They like child sex. And murdering gays. And gang rapes. All sanctioned by their imams. Their belief system harms innocents everyday. What a load of uneducated, ignorant bollocks. There are shitheads in all walks of life. The vast majority of any group are fine, but the shitheads in every group will always push limits until they are stopped. That goes down to the ineptitude of society in slapping these criminal fuckheads down and holding them accountable for their personal actions. Any religion is a crock of shit and means nothing if it is used as an excuse to harm others. It is not a reason, it is not an excuse. That decision to behave like a cunt comes down to the individual and their personal responsibility. The problem comes when SJWs give these shitheads some special snowflake status because they have a sun tan or their clothes, who where they stick their dick, or whatever other flavour of the month there is. Stop making excuses for shit behaviour by buying into the religious argument bullshit. All you do is reinforce the bullshit. No, what you've said is, ignorant, all of those things are permitted in the Koran under shria law. I find the part labeling unbelievers as inhuman particularly disgusting. No, mate. You are attempting to interpret texts without context, apply them to extremist interpretations, and even more bizarrely doing your level best to tarnish 1.6 billion people with the accusation that they all practice your interpretation rather than their own, or at least should do. Fact is that most do not go around practicing this extremist crap. They reject it and actively oppose it. Wrong....They do not actively oppose it. That is the problem. |
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Interesting the guy was shot around 2pm, and protestors had signs printed before dark. https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-G2VvUKdKthA/V6_D7FuSmiI/AAAAAAAAHSI/CdD7NJXqnF4G_htwPl4y_9rMX0nx5yXVQCLcB/s400/Untitled20160814020053.jpg The 2nd guy from left holding sign is the one who did it, guaranteed!
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............... No mate. You are projecting western values based upon your limited sample. "tarnish 1.6 billion people" they tarnish themselves even without lying http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2011/05/2011-osama-021.png when OBL stopped killing thousands of americans his popularity went DOWN. But immediately after 9-11 OBL was a fucking rockstar across the muslim world. The reason most of them don't get their jihad on is the fact that most of them are pussies. but given the opportunity and the strong probability of success, they'll lop your head off in a heart beat, "mate" you learned about islam in britain. you know, jolly b-ham and how many girls enslaved by "asians" for sex and noone did shit? crawl your ass into the heart of pashtoonistan, or Saudi Arabia and learn about islam. the two leaders of islam globally are Iran and Saudi Arabia. wonderful places, aren't they? are you saying countries that be lychin' the gays (or beheading them) AREN'T "true islam" congrats. you have shown your fealty to political correctness. also your ignorance, but keep on keepin' on. Holy shit!!
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it's NYC, statistically, every type of person is murdered, eventually. There aren't as many places on earth that HAVE every type of person, but if there is one that does, NYC is probably the best bet. sucks that two guys who probably weren't harming anyone got murdered They are Islamists. There are harm and subjugation in their hearts for everyone that doesn't believe what they believe. They like child sex. And murdering gays. And gang rapes. All sanctioned by their imams. Their belief system harms innocents everyday. The reported method of murder seems rather personal to me. If the killer is found, I predict that we will learn that hens a Muslim, that he knew the Imam and other person he killed. Furthermore we will learn the killer's reasons were deeply personal. All the SJW outcry is just noise to obscure the truth and advance the progressive agenda. |
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Has there ever been a valid study showing how many Imams approve of Sharia and a Caliphate? I don't know how you can be an Imam and disapprove of Sharia. Its like a rabbi disapproving of the Torah. ETA. Two Imams are gunned down in the middle of the street and this story has completely disappeared. I wonder why that is. |
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it's NYC, statistically, every type of person is murdered, eventually. There aren't as many places on earth that HAVE every type of person, but if there is one that does, NYC is probably the best bet. sucks that two guys who probably weren't harming anyone got murdered They are Islamists. There are harm and subjugation in their hearts for everyone that doesn't believe what they believe. They like child sex. And murdering gays. And gang rapes. All sanctioned by their imams. Their belief system harms innocents everyday. What a load of uneducated, ignorant bollocks. There are shitheads in all walks of life. The vast majority of any group are fine, but the shitheads in every group will always push limits until they are stopped. That goes down to the ineptitude of society in slapping these criminal fuckheads down and holding them accountable for their personal actions. Any religion is a crock of shit and means nothing if it is used as an excuse to harm others. It is not a reason, it is not an excuse. That decision to behave like a cunt comes down to the individual and their personal responsibility. The problem comes when SJWs give these shitheads some special snowflake status because they have a sun tan or their clothes, who where they stick their dick, or whatever other flavour of the month there is. Stop making excuses for shit behaviour by buying into the religious argument bullshit. All you do is reinforce the bullshit. No, what you've said is, ignorant, all of those things are permitted in the Koran under shria law. I find the part labeling unbelievers as inhuman particularly disgusting. No, mate. You are attempting to interpret texts without context, apply them to extremist interpretations, and even more bizarrely doing your level best to tarnish 1.6 billion people with the accusation that they all practice your interpretation rather than their own, or at least should do. Fact is that most do not go around practicing this extremist crap. They reject it and actively oppose it. Damn, you must be dizzy from all that spinning. |
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I largely agree with everything you posted above. I have a few questions for you. What are your thoughts on groups such as The Soldiers of Odin that was started out of Finland? Forget that Odin was Norse....and all that. I'm talking about the premise of citizens forming groups to provide protection for other citizens? The principle of citizens protecting citizens is entirely honourable. That is the basis of any police force. Where it becomes a problem is when the actions fall outside the law - that is to say it becomes a means of targeting people for persecution. I do not believe that the Soldiers of Odin was set up as a vigilante group with that in mind. Is this just an excuse for baseless nationalism? Do these groups actually have a legitimate basis for their creation? Would it be fair to summarily throw all such groups under the banner of "Nazi's"? Nationalism is not a dirty word despite the best efforts of the left to imply other connotations. It is a matter pride and upholding values which form the basis of that nation. In terms of the legitimacy of their formation - I don't see why the formation of any group would be an issue if they are operating within the laws of the land. It might be argued that the fact people need to form such groups to protect themselves represents failing by the government of that nation to do it's job, meaning others have to pick up the slack, but that is a testament to the values of the citizenry in upholding the rule of law - provided their actions are lawful. Is there a point in time when it's reasonable to conclude government has failed in its protection and priority of its own citizens and a citizen based response is reasonable without that response being condemned as "nationalist/Nazi/extremist"? And I'm not talking about forming support groups to talk things out. I'm talking about assuming some level of responsibility for physical security. Yes -where the Govt fails to uphold the laws of the nation it is not unreasonable to expect that the public will rise to that challenge. Provided they remain within the law in doing so then I fail to see how it becomes extremist or Nazism. In many nations there is an expectation in law that citizens will assist in upholding the law, and it is an offence for them to fail to do so. Physical security, provided it is upheld within the self-defence laws of the nation, is something that is enshrined in law within most nations anyway. Do any such conditions exist.....or can you articulate conditions where such a response would be necessary? Yes, they exist at times. A town local to me had a problem with burglaries, assaults and car thefts after being targeted by a criminal gang. The citizens asked the police for more patrols and the Police were slow to respond in committing resources. The citizens formed their own group and patrolled their own streets - which naturally caused some concern as it was evident that the police were not able to do their job (it was a resource issue in a rural town). This caused some embarrassment within local Government and resources were quickly provided to step up policing and resolved the issue. The citizens were supported and provided advice local police during this period and the citizen patrols were often pictured with local police officers as a partnership. Any situation where local services are unable or unwilling to respond to a problem will provide grounds for citizens to take responsibility for their own welfare. Provided the actions of those citizens remain lawful there should be no opposition or issue. Quoted:
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You're not a "Mean Guy". You are scared shitless and don't know how to respond so like a big daft child you advocate killing everything because understanding the problem is hard. Your response is emotional and lacks the cold, hard, calculating processes needed to identify the nature of the problem, and how to deal with it.
It always amazes me how many of you will sing the praises of the constitution and rights, yet throw your constitution under the bus at the first sign of a little adversity. I'm totally with you about going and getting the bad guys. Drone strike them, arrest and imprison them and do earthing you can to degrade their capability and capacity to do harm at every opportunity. Totally with you on that. However, advocating the wholesale slaughter of innocent people, and throwing your own supposed values and beliefs out of the window in a fit of irrational ignorance and fear is the action of an ill-disciplined, emotionally immature person. I largely agree with everything you posted above. I have a few questions for you. What are your thoughts on groups such as The Soldiers of Odin that was started out of Finland? Forget that Odin was Norse....and all that. I'm talking about the premise of citizens forming groups to provide protection for other citizens? The principle of citizens protecting citizens is entirely honourable. That is the basis of any police force. Where it becomes a problem is when the actions fall outside the law - that is to say it becomes a means of targeting people for persecution. I do not believe that the Soldiers of Odin was set up as a vigilante group with that in mind. Is this just an excuse for baseless nationalism? Do these groups actually have a legitimate basis for their creation? Would it be fair to summarily throw all such groups under the banner of "Nazi's"? Nationalism is not a dirty word despite the best efforts of the left to imply other connotations. It is a matter pride and upholding values which form the basis of that nation. In terms of the legitimacy of their formation - I don't see why the formation of any group would be an issue if they are operating within the laws of the land. It might be argued that the fact people need to form such groups to protect themselves represents failing by the government of that nation to do it's job, meaning others have to pick up the slack, but that is a testament to the values of the citizenry in upholding the rule of law - provided their actions are lawful. Is there a point in time when it's reasonable to conclude government has failed in its protection and priority of its own citizens and a citizen based response is reasonable without that response being condemned as "nationalist/Nazi/extremist"? And I'm not talking about forming support groups to talk things out. I'm talking about assuming some level of responsibility for physical security. Yes -where the Govt fails to uphold the laws of the nation it is not unreasonable to expect that the public will rise to that challenge. Provided they remain within the law in doing so then I fail to see how it becomes extremist or Nazism. In many nations there is an expectation in law that citizens will assist in upholding the law, and it is an offence for them to fail to do so. Physical security, provided it is upheld within the self-defence laws of the nation, is something that is enshrined in law within most nations anyway. Do any such conditions exist.....or can you articulate conditions where such a response would be necessary? Yes, they exist at times. A town local to me had a problem with burglaries, assaults and car thefts after being targeted by a criminal gang. The citizens asked the police for more patrols and the Police were slow to respond in committing resources. The citizens formed their own group and patrolled their own streets - which naturally caused some concern as it was evident that the police were not able to do their job (it was a resource issue in a rural town). This caused some embarrassment within local Government and resources were quickly provided to step up policing and resolved the issue. The citizens were supported and provided advice local police during this period and the citizen patrols were often pictured with local police officers as a partnership. Any situation where local services are unable or unwilling to respond to a problem will provide grounds for citizens to take responsibility for their own welfare. Provided the actions of those citizens remain lawful there should be no opposition or issue. In blue 
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What a load of uneducated, ignorant bollocks. There are shitheads in all walks of life. The vast majority of any group are fine, but the shitheads in every group will always push limits until they are stopped. That goes down to the ineptitude of society in slapping these criminal fuckheads down and holding them accountable for their personal actions. Any religion is a crock of shit and means nothing if it is used as an excuse to harm others. It is not a reason, it is not an excuse. That decision to behave like a cunt comes down to the individual and their personal responsibility. The problem comes when SJWs give these shitheads some special snowflake status because they have a sun tan or their clothes, who where they stick their dick, or whatever other flavour of the month there is. Stop making excuses for shit behaviour by buying into the religious argument bullshit. All you do is reinforce the bullshit. Quoted:
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it's NYC, statistically, every type of person is murdered, eventually. There aren't as many places on earth that HAVE every type of person, but if there is one that does, NYC is probably the best bet. sucks that two guys who probably weren't harming anyone got murdered They are Islamists. There are harm and subjugation in their hearts for everyone that doesn't believe what they believe. They like child sex. And murdering gays. And gang rapes. All sanctioned by their imams. Their belief system harms innocents everyday. What a load of uneducated, ignorant bollocks. There are shitheads in all walks of life. The vast majority of any group are fine, but the shitheads in every group will always push limits until they are stopped. That goes down to the ineptitude of society in slapping these criminal fuckheads down and holding them accountable for their personal actions. Any religion is a crock of shit and means nothing if it is used as an excuse to harm others. It is not a reason, it is not an excuse. That decision to behave like a cunt comes down to the individual and their personal responsibility. The problem comes when SJWs give these shitheads some special snowflake status because they have a sun tan or their clothes, who where they stick their dick, or whatever other flavour of the month there is. Stop making excuses for shit behaviour by buying into the religious argument bullshit. All you do is reinforce the bullshit. QFT. |
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Has there ever been a valid study showing how many Imams approve of Sharia and a Caliphate? Pointless, because ALL muslims pray for a caliphate, and it's simple math that there is no law that man can make which is superior to those made by their god. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOx6nfzrxFcMakes you wonder doesn't it?
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No, mate. You are attempting to interpret texts without context, apply them to extremist interpretations, and even more bizarrely doing your level best to tarnish 1.6 billion people with the accusation that they all practice your interpretation rather than their own, or at least should do. Fact is that most do not go around practicing this extremist crap. They reject it and actively oppose it. Quoted:
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it's NYC, statistically, every type of person is murdered, eventually. There aren't as many places on earth that HAVE every type of person, but if there is one that does, NYC is probably the best bet. sucks that two guys who probably weren't harming anyone got murdered They are Islamists. There are harm and subjugation in their hearts for everyone that doesn't believe what they believe. They like child sex. And murdering gays. And gang rapes. All sanctioned by their imams. Their belief system harms innocents everyday. What a load of uneducated, ignorant bollocks. There are shitheads in all walks of life. The vast majority of any group are fine, but the shitheads in every group will always push limits until they are stopped. That goes down to the ineptitude of society in slapping these criminal fuckheads down and holding them accountable for their personal actions. Any religion is a crock of shit and means nothing if it is used as an excuse to harm others. It is not a reason, it is not an excuse. That decision to behave like a cunt comes down to the individual and their personal responsibility. The problem comes when SJWs give these shitheads some special snowflake status because they have a sun tan or their clothes, who where they stick their dick, or whatever other flavour of the month there is. Stop making excuses for shit behaviour by buying into the religious argument bullshit. All you do is reinforce the bullshit. No, what you've said is, ignorant, all of those things are permitted in the Koran under shria law. I find the part labeling unbelievers as inhuman particularly disgusting. No, mate. You are attempting to interpret texts without context, apply them to extremist interpretations, and even more bizarrely doing your level best to tarnish 1.6 billion people with the accusation that they all practice your interpretation rather than their own, or at least should do. Fact is that most do not go around practicing this extremist crap. They reject it and actively oppose it. Fact: The more Muslims in any given area, More Muslims supporting sharia law; More Muslims in political office which leads to sympathetic laws favoring Sharia which in turn violates our Constitution. Not to mention the occasional beheading, torture and mass killings. There's no difference between sympathizing with terrorists and being a terrorist. What's the difference between a "moderate" Muslim and an "extremist" Muslim? One will try to kill you and the other wants the other to kill you. |
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Fact: The more Muslims in any given area, far greater chance of Islamic terrorists there are; More Muslims supporting sharia law; More Muslims in political office which leads to sympathetic laws favoring Sharia which in turn violates our Constitution. Not to mention the occasional beheading, torture and mass killings. Simplistic Genius. You'll be telling me next that the more guns you have the higher the risk of you going out and murdering someone, committing a mass shooting, killing a cop, or suck starting your own gun when it all gets a but too much. You'd be correct in that display of simplistic logic as well, but we both know that there is a lot more to it and simply banning guns will not stop it. |
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